WaPo: Guts wants a shot at one last start

by duck on Sep 24, 2008 3:12 PM EDT in News & Rumors

BALTIMORE, Sept. 23 -- After missing nearly a month with a shoulder ailment, Baltimore Orioles right-hander Jeremy Guthrie is close to returning, just in time for one more start.
Manager Dave Trembley said Guthrie will pitch in a three-inning simulated game on Wednesday, the last step before activating the pitcher from the 15-day disabled list. If all goes well, Trembley said Guthrie could be ready to start either on Saturday or for Sunday's season finale.

"He says he feels real good, he says he feels 100 percent," Trembley said.

From the Washington Post, btw.

So, we have the possibility of Jeremy Guthrie returning for one last start, because, well, he wants to.

I'm not feeling this. What's the upside? The downside is huge. Your thoughts, Birdland?

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It seems unneccesary

although the fact that he wants to get back out there is one of the things I love about him.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 24, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions

You want him on that mound, you need him on that mound!

You want the truth? Sonny Jim, the truth’s been slapping you in the face for the past 23 days. Jeremy Guthrie walks out there in the next 5 days and maybe I don’t go find something new to obsess over on a daily basis.

I always say follow your dreams...even if they're about a giant spider with your father's head, and he keeps stealing your p*nis!

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Sep 24, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions

put him in the bullpen

he could probably help more there anyway, and he’d be looking at a conservative pitch count if he started, hence putting additional pressure on the pen.

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 24, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions

dude's a trooper.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 24, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

yep

And deserves to get a head-start on having his golf bag ready.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Sep 24, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Jeremy Guthrie does not GOLF

Jeremy Guthrie swims with sharks wearing a swimsuit made of seal meat. Jeremy Guthrie rides his bike across the country on a total of SEVEN hours of sleep. Jeremy Guthrie makes this guy feel self conscious.

In conclusion: Jeremy Guthrie does not golf.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Jeremy Guthrie doesn't golf, he caddies

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 24, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Jeremy Guthrie helps old ladies cross the street and builds in bridges in Africa.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 24, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Sharing a moment

I sort of remember this happening. I love Guts.

by PhilR8 on Sep 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Roch says he's starting Sunday

by dkdc on Sep 24, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions

cool, screw the simulated game.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 24, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

oops for some reason i thought you said guts is starting today.

Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."

by birdman on Sep 24, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't unnerstan the question: He's 100% and gets paid to pitch. Um...?

Joe Namath’s knees were a chronic problem. At one point late in a season, when the Jets were well ot of it, he came back from the latest round of post-surgery rehab and reached full readiness. There was a serious discussion in the NY press on the theme Play Him or Not Play Him. The team was going nowhere, after all, and the possibility of further injury was ever present— why risk a potential championship the next season?

Someone, thank heavens, had the wisdom to point out the, y’know, fundamental basics: he’s ready to play and that’s what he’s paid to do— and what the team’s fans pay to see. What other question could there be?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 25, 2008 2:53 AM EDT reply actions

Joe Namath and Jeremy Guthrie do not have the same impact on attendance, I don’t think.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2008 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions

And...? If the no. of season tix sold by each franchise were equal, and that no. were 1, then the 2 guys who bought those 2 tix

would still have a right to see the best team the franchise can put on the field. That’s what the club said they’d provide ticket buyers and that’s what the guys paid for. C’mon, the fare exchange of goods for services is a key element of the social contract in a market economy. And an element never forgets.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 25, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions

I just don’t think these things are necessarily 100% applicable to sports, where other factors like “not having surgery in October if something goes wrong in a game every Oriole fan understands it’s f’n meaningless” come into play.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Then I guess we differ on (1) hypotheticals and (2) the meaning of "meaningless."

1. Every play of every game represents a risk for every player involved, of course. We accept that and still expect the players not only to take part, but to do so at full bore, not in greater or lesser measure depending on their health histories. If a player says he is at 100% physical capacity, we should expect him to go out and give 100% when it’s his turn to play. Saying that there may be less risk to him (or to his potential service to the team) at a later date defies logic, doesn’t it? The risk is the same. That’s life. That’s what the people say. Flyin’ high in April. And like that.

2. A game that is meaningless in determining league standings isn’t necessarily meaningless to those who have paid in advance to see it with the understanding that their team will do its best to play the best baseball it can and, y’know, win that day. The phrases “respect for the game” and “owe it to the fans” often figure in discussions of this kind (of which the Orioles have had more than their share over the last decade). Cal was a good example of the right approach, I think: perfect practice, always show up, always play your hardest, whatever the standings.

I suspect Guts would agree with both these points. Can we bet and then call him up?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 26, 2008 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions

no you're right

Guthrie is paid to pitch. He’ll be paid to pitch next year, too. I’d prefer he’s at 100% next season instead of needlessly risking aggravating an injury that should be rehabbed and rested. Injuries happen. Also sometimes you go to the game and your favorite player has the day off. That’s just how it works. Nobody is guaranteed any particular player to be playing. The Orioles throwing Guthrie at 70-80% (which is probably where he’s at) is no more a declaration of trying to win than giving someone who’s 100% a chance to throw six innings.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Sep 26, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions