The 2008 All-American League East Team

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With the 2008 baseball season coming to a close (a thankful close, if you've watched the O's play this month), I thought it'd be fun to look back on the AL East, baseball's strongest division, and no longer simply a two-horse race.
It doesn't exactly represent what went down in the AL East this season, with Tampa Bay claiming the title (knock on wood) in their first-ever winning season and Boston never being seriously challenged for second place and the wild card. With New York crumbling under the average age of their roster (rivaling the age of the stadium they've closed), and Toronto being Toronto, somewhere in the middle, and a general nuisance at best. But an All-American League East team seemed like a decent idea. Hey, why not? The Sun Belt Conference names an all-conference team.
STARTING PITCHER: ROY HALLADAY, TORONTO
It would be impossible to argue anyone else in the division as a better starting pitcher in 2008 (or period, probably) than Roy Halladay. The closest comparison is Boston's Jon Lester -- not Beckett, not Kazmir, not Shields, not Wang, not Mussina. Jon Lester. Go figure.
Halladay is a Cy Young contender, at least relatively. Cliff Lee absolutely should win the award, and there's no question about that. But Halladay will get his share of Cy Young votes, and as good as he is year in and year out, he deserves it.
CATCHER: DIONER NAVARRO, TAMPA BAY
It's not so much that Navarro had some great season, but the cupboard is pretty bare for good catchers within the division. Ramon Hernandez needed a solid second half to even claw back into "below average" territory, and his defense is so atrocious that he'd have had to significantly out-hit Navarro anyway. Varitek stunk, Posada got hurt, the Jays had the underwhelming Gregg Zaun (nephew of Rick Dempsey, if you had never heard) and Rod Barajas splitting time. All in all, a putrid year for AL East catchers.
Navarro wins on being solid. He hit for a nice average, kept his OBP fairly strong, and managed to sneak his slugging over .400. He also made his first All-Star team. Way to go, dude! You win!
FIRST BASE: KEVIN YOUKILIS, BOSTON
An outstanding year for Youkilis, who sacrificed some walks and came away with a power bump, a risky move that paid off. Throw in the fact that he should win the Gold Glove hands down, and he's a runaway choice.
With David Ortiz hurting, Manny Ramirez traded, Mike Lowell regressing, and J.D. Drew doing his usual DL dance, it was Youkilis' power bat that carried the Boston lineup. Youkilis set career highs in doubles, homers, hits, average, slugging percentage, and sacrificed no on-base percentage thanks to the spike in his contact numbers. In a year where things could have gone very wrong for Boston, Youkilis was one of the guys that put the team on his back and carried them into the postseason.
SECOND BASE: DUSTIN PEDROIA, BOSTON
All apologies to those of you that hate Pedroia, and an honorable mention to the admirable Brian Roberts, but let's not kid ourselves. Pedroia's a better player, and he had the much better year.
Pedroia isn't just some annoying "lil' sparkplug" middle infielder that slaps the ball around and plays overrated defense and "does the little things." Dude contended for a batting title, hit over 50 doubles, and came close to 20 homers. He was also near-perfect on stolen base attempts.
He is a hell of a good baseball player, and a guy anyone would love to have on their team. C'mon. Admit it.
THIRD BASE: ALEX RODRIGUEZ, NEW YORK
The Yankees screw around all year, never get white-hot to overcome their here-and-there crappiness, and the player that gets booed is Alex Rodriguez.
See, usually I'd go, "What is wrong with you people?"
But I was giving this a good, solid think the other day, and the thing I do ignore when this topic enters my mind is that A-Rod is, well, kind of a d-bag, y'know? Slapping purses on the way to first base, announcing his free agency while baseball's focus should be on the playoffs, then wasting everyone's time by just staying in New York anyway with a sweetheart deal designed to get him a monument and some Ted Williams-style "later in life, we realized..." type of admiration from Yankee fans in the future.
So maybe booing this dork just speaks well of the taste of Yankee fans. Not everyone is meant to be liked. And by the way, this position wasn't close either. Never is with this dude around.
SHORTSTOP: DEREK JETER, NEW YORK
Congratulations, Derek! You're still the best shortstop in the division!
Like Navarro, this is more that no one else was worth a crap than it is some spectacular season from Jeter. It's been Jeter's worst season since 1997, when he was in his second full year. It's also the first time in his career that he's missing the playoffs, so I'm sure he'd categorize this as the worst, bar none.
His batting average dip isn't the real problem -- it's power and patience. Jeter's OBP and SLG slides (.388/.452 in 2007, and .417/.483 in 2006) are very real, and should be a huge concern for the Yankees. He also still stinks in the field. When the competition is the likes of David Eckstein, Julio Lugo, Jason Bartlett and the Unholy Union of Baltimore Shortstops, though, Jeter looks like Honus Wagner.
OUTFIELD: NICK MARKAKIS, BALTIMORE
This is no jive, no bias, and no favoritism: Nick Markakis is the best outfielder in the American League East.
He does it all, frankly. Hits for average, has fine power, gets on base like a demon all of a sudden, cannon arm, great glove. He trumps them all, though a full season of Bay or Ramirez would have beaten him, and a full season of Drew may have, too. Still, we take what we can get here in Birdland. Nick Markakis! Best outfielder in the division! Suck it!
OUTFIELD: BOBBY ABREU, NEW YORK
OK, so Abreu has lost a couple steps and he's always been a lousy right fielder. He's still a valuable player. Like the next fella that'll make the team, the asterisk exists. With Manny or Bay in a full season or Drew not getting hurt, there's a good chance they don't make this team. They probably don't, in fact.
Injuries, man.
OUTFIELD: JOHNNY DAMON, NEW YORK
Here we are. 2008, and Johnny Damon is making the All-AL East team. You know what? I can't take it. I can't stomach it. Terrible. The worst.
But he did have a nice season and did about all you could expect and probably then some.
DESIGNATED HITTER: AUBREY HUFF, BALTIMORE
Aubrey Huff, man. Who'da thunk it prior to this season? Aging, fading, plus, let's be serious, an Oriole. Aging, fading Orioles don't generally put up huge seasons when no one's expecting it.
This would have been a unanimous vote for David Ortiz in the preseason, but even without his injuries I'm not sure he beats Huff out. Aubrey was really good this year, and even won over the Baltimore fans he so righteously angered in the offseason.
CLOSER: MARIANO RIVERA, NEW YORK
Are you kidding me? This guy could probably close and close like an All-Star until he's 50 if feels like it. He shows no signs of wear and tear and no signs of slowing down. As good as Jonathan Papelbon was in 2008, he wasn't on Rivera's planet.
What does this guy eat?
RELIEF PITCHER: J.P. HOWELL, TAMPA BAY
I thought there needed to be a position for the guys who bridge the gap between the starters and the closers, and J.P. Howell has done that better than anyone in the divison, throwing neary 100 innings and dominating. The handful of times I got to see him this year, he reminded me of B.J. Ryan except smaller -- a lefty that can flat-out smoke the hitter and get it done daily.
I'm sure someone has some qualms, so let's hear 'em.
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Well done!
Fine selections all around! Plus, come on, Johnny Damon rules. I love that guy.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on Sep 25, 2008 6:02 AM EDT 0 recs
Hmm
He is a hell of a good baseball player, and a guy anyone would love to have on their team. C’mon. Admit it.
No.
by Y Not on Sep 25, 2008 8:07 AM EDT 0 recs
He also didn't have a "much better year" than Roberts
Park effects and baserunning wipe out most of the difference in their OPS.
However, Pedroia does deserve the 2B spot on this team, this year.
by dkdc on
Sep 25, 2008 8:59 AM EDT
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to be precise...
124 adjusted ops for pedroia to 119 for roberts. 5 points ain’t nothin, but i wouldn’t call it a “much better year,” but i don’t really have any qualms w/ the pick.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on
Sep 25, 2008 10:52 AM EDT
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he's also not 30
I was taking that into account. The baserunning isn’t that big of a deal. Roberts stole 39 bags at an 80% clip. Pedroia has 20 at 95%. This does not wipe out the difference in OPS or the fact that Pedroia is going to be doing this for longer than Roberts will be doing that.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Sep 25, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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To each his own
Pedroia’s a more valuable player going forward because of his age, but that shouldn’t be a factor for an all-star team, IMO.
Not a big deal.
by dkdc on
Sep 25, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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well OK
He’s better than Roberts. There’s the reason he’s on my team.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Sep 25, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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DH - Aubrey Huff
Just sayin’.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM EDT 0 recs
I need to RTFA
before I comment, huh?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Sep 25, 2008 10:23 AM EDT
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I still hate Pedroier
and no way did he have a much better season then BRob. 40 points of SLG (from the BGM) and 9 CS to be specific made the difference offensively. 100% of DPs HR have been left of center. He has 10 more HR but 30 less BB than BRob. A few more 2B but a few less 3B. Slightly worse fielder. If only BRob would quit getting picked off and whiffing…
Abreu?!? Mr. -28 in fielding? Seriously? Don’t the BJs have someone that can play? Next year is AJs year!
Also, JJ has a tits year as a setup guy, put him on here.
If we want to do a rotation: Halliday, Guts, Burnett, Matsuzaka, Moose.
Curt never met a buttered roll he didn't like.
by CoachOfEarl on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM EDT 0 recs
WTF
Lester, hello. He was hell of a lot better than everyone but Halladay. N-word please.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on
Sep 25, 2008 11:31 AM EDT
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I'll consider it
But tell me what you’re basing that on. I’d def take Dice over Lester, even with his BB problem the .209 BAA is pretty tough to argue against.
Curt never met a buttered roll he didn't like.
by CoachOfEarl on
Sep 25, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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I don't know
how about he’s 8th in the majors in VORP among pitchers? Matsuzaka is 13th, Guthrie is 28th, Burnett is 43rd, and Mussina is 33rd. So there’s that.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on
Sep 25, 2008 1:22 PM EDT
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VORP is weak for pitching IMHO
It’s essentially RA translated. I’ll tell you my reasons for choosing my pitchers
Halliday: straight up dominance. I’d sign him over Lee overall because Lee will likely regress.
Guts: Low WHIP, great stuff.
Burnett: K-ville, High BABIP predicts lower RA, WHIP
DiceK: Extremely low WHIP and OPS
Moose: Extremely low BB9 and low WHIP
Not saying Lester sucks, just saying. Him and Sheilds and Kaz were in the running for me.
Curt never met a buttered roll he didn't like.
by CoachOfEarl on
Sep 25, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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Grumble
grumble, grumble…Lester had a great year and out pitched Guts. I got go throw up now.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on
Sep 25, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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And Pedroia
outslugged Roberts on the road too. He had a better year.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on
Sep 25, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
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I think the word "much"
is the source of the debate.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Sep 25, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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A stuffed pig for duck
We have a weiner!
Curt never met a buttered roll he didn't like.
by CoachOfEarl on
Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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I do try
and add SOMETHING intelligent to the conversation every now and again. Just don’t expect too much of it too often.
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Sep 25, 2008 4:06 PM EDT
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Mo Rivera
I glanced at his stat line, and thought that 1.43 seemed a little high for his WHIP.
Then I realized it was his ERA.
Dude is ungodly good, and not at all irritating. I’ve hated on the Yankees enough this week that I’ve gotta show respect.
by Brotz13 on Sep 25, 2008 11:12 AM EDT 0 recs
I agree.
I respect Mariano a lot.. at his prime I don’t think anyone could instill a sense of hopelessness in the 9th inning like him. I should put quotations around his prime
considering that the guy can still outpitch almost every closer in the majors even now.
by Y Not on
Sep 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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Mo is ridiculous
He’s 38 and still one of the most dominant pitchers in the game.
He WILL decline at some point, but I’ve given up guessing when that will be.
The Yankees are in real trouble, though. 8 of their top 10 in VORP this year will be 35 or older next year.
Age Player
33 Alex Rodriguez
35 Johnny Damon
35 Derek Jeter
40 Mike Mussina
35 Bobby Abreu
38 Jason Giambi
23 Joba Chamberlain
39 Mariano Rivera
35 Hideki Matsui
37 Andy Pettitte
Somebody is going to fall off a cliff.
by dkdc on
Sep 25, 2008 1:45 PM EDT
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I dunno
I mean Rivera could decline, but that doesn’t mean he’ll ever be an average pitcher. Randy Johnson has never REALLY fallen off, and his ERA was around 3.00 until he hit 40. The guy is 45 right now and is still above average in the rotation.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on
Sep 25, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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4 out of 5 Steinbrenners agree
It’s teh tuffest division. Winning the AL East is hard.
Curt never met a buttered roll he didn't like.
by CoachOfEarl on Sep 25, 2008 12:41 PM EDT 0 recs
kind of off-topic
But if y’all with Yahoo! accounts would occasionally use that “Buzz up!” thing, I’d appreciate it.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Sep 25, 2008 3:36 PM EDT 0 recs
hahahahhahaha
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on
Sep 25, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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Just for you, boss
it’s my first use of Buzz! since its introduction. I assume it’s Yahoo!’s knockoff of Digg?
"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby
by duck on
Sep 25, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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pretty much
SBN has it across the board, so if it’s there, we should use it. I’ll be honest and remark that I don’t think these things are tremendously effective for sports in most cases, but hey.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Sep 25, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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real waste of time for sports
general news and music/entertainment, it’s more effective
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on
Sep 26, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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agreed
But hey (again).
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Sep 26, 2008 7:15 AM EDT
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re: middle relief guy
Toronto’s Scott Downs (1.78/1.15) v. Tampa Bay’s JP Howell (2.22/1.13)
I probably should’ve picked Downs, I guess. I dunno. Howell threw almost 20 more innings. You could go with Downs.
As for Jim Johnson, he’s just not quite good enough. If there was an entire staff to make, he’d be there.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Sep 25, 2008 5:36 PM EDT 0 recs
I thought there needed to be a position for the guys who bridge the gap between the starters and the closers, and J.P. Howell has done that better than anyone in the divison, throwing neary 100 innings and dominating.
It’s too bad Albers hurt his shoulder because this is exactly what he would have provided us especially if the O’s are unwilling to use him in the rotation full time.
Zartan says, "Sign Dan Johnson."
by birdman on Sep 25, 2008 5:48 PM EDT 0 recs





























