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Cleveland (69-72) at Baltimore (63-78), 9/8/08

Carmona versus Olson.  I filled in some stuff from the AP game preview to make it to 75 words.  Discuss

It may be too late to make a difference, but the Cleveland Indians are getting healthy again. They’re just wondering what might have been had the injuries not piled up in the first place.

Victor Martinez will look to continue his hot hitting and Fausto Carmona will try for his fourth straight victory on Monday when the Indians open a four-game road set against the hapless Baltimore Orioles, losers of eight in a row.

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IF WE WIN I WILL EAT MY SKI HAT

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

If we lose, Millar will eat your ski hat. A little salt, some barbecue sauce, side o' fries-- 's nothin'.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

MILLARD CAN"T HAVE MY SKI HAT

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw, c'mon, we'll throw in some beer. We all wanna see this.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truthfully speaking, he can borrow Millar's.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How's that ski hat taste?

Truthfully, I might have made the same bet.

I always say follow your dreams...even if they're about a giant spider with your father's head, and he keeps stealing your p*nis!

by Ghost of Floyd Rayford on Sep 8, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks birdman.

We all need to wake up a little ’round here. :)

Hey, look, we’re not losing.

by zknower on Sep 8, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Tuning in for a hot second just in time to see Roch’s corny jokes!

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

How many games in a row have we lost now? 72?

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Sep 8, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, now

I don’t think it’s over 30 just yet.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

bounced on the warning track

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luke just crushed the everloving shit out of that ball.

That’s the highpoint of the last two weeks for the O’s.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I just watched the replay

Did they give a distance on it? That was ridiculous.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

415 according to the scoreboard

That seems wrong to me…

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yet ... we're still losing

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

it's an endless cycle.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes, listening to the Sawx announcers is like reading AMA.

“Underinformed homers” sums it up. And with accents.

It’s like Russian coverage of international soccer matches, which I tend to watch on TV with the sound off.

3-0 Sawx after 5.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

But in good news from the greater Boston area.

Tom Brady – out for the year.
Say hello to the 9-7 Buffalo Bills – AFC East Champions.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Pats almost as much as I like the Sawx-- and their good-spirited, knowledgeable fans!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

pats can easy still win 10 games.

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wanna bet your ski hat they don't...?

Oops, forgot, Millar’s already putting charcoal on the grill.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welllllllll....Nah, it's tempting but I still want the hat. I mean, y'know, Millar's leftovers.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude I could get 8 wins as QB for the pats

that’s a loaded squard son

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey is that a QS

for Mr. Garrett Olson? When was the last time an O’s starter did that?

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Six IP, 3 ER...

Something about those numbers seems familiar. Could it possibly be a quality start?

Nick Markakis: The Actual Greek God of Walks

by wickedwitch on Sep 8, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Lie down, apply cold compresses (if available), drink plenty of fluids and it should pass in 4-6 hrs.

There is no known cure, but several over the counter medicines relieve many of the symptoms: try Jim Beam, Johnnie Walker and Yukon Jack.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh hey

I can just make out the stadium lights from my dorm. I think I can barely see the top of the stadium.

that’s gotta mean something, right?

right?

by Steve. on Sep 8, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it say SURRENDER DOROTHY just above the lights? There ya go.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy sh*t-- Millar, you may have to make alternative grilling plans...

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey whaddya know, the O's aren't losing!

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Just turned on gameday and...

the O’s are winning, with the bases juiced, and 1 out. Not too shabby.

by bjtylerx on Sep 8, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Huff Daddy!

Nice!

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

And he really is now, too

Congrats to the Huffster and his wife on the new kid.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap we got a touchdown

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I"M GOING TO EAT MY SKI HAT NOM NOM

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

and Millar is PISSED!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we can't trade him-- no interest anywhere?!? Is he a war criminal, plague carrier or what?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 losses, one win .... equals ..... wait for it ....

4-32

Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.

by thewaywardO on Sep 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wolf, wolf, wolf.

by birdman on Sep 8, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

New CD Friday

Just sayin’. And the new stuff ain’t bad. I love teh last 3 minutes of this tune. And “Cyanide” and especially “My Apocalypse” sound like it’s 1988 all over again.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you check out that NYT piece I linked?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read it yesterday

Although having the NYT like a metal album isn’t exactly a selling point.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of like hearing Metallica in the elevator on your way to the 30th fl. in the Halliburton Building?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I ever found myself in a Halliburton building

it’s because I’d been kidnapped by Blackwater operatives. That is one EVIL corporation.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a rodge, cap'n. Much eviler they don't get.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice crowd tonight

How long’s it gonna be ’til the next 50,000,000th fan? I gotta win next time!

by Bromo on Sep 8, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's not trade for Rocco Baldelli after all. His 4 K's and 16 guys LOB (or something) tonight have dimmed my hopes...

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

+1, gotta hand it to ya-- I LOL'ed!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOC!

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Sep 8, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Dr. Jones joining the party!

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Weird Juxtaposition City: listening to the O's on a weak AM station from York, I get fade-in, fade-out stuff

from a rock station near 1350. Right now I’m getting Joe Angel alternating with 3 Dog Night doing “Mama Told Me Not Come” — which is absolutely true for most nights at OPACY.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

WHVR 1280 AM!

I guess it depends where you are at the moment… As I drive towards York on 83, 105.7 starts fighting with the awful alt rock station in York on the same frequency, so I head over to 1280, which is not bad

by PhilR8 on Sep 8, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx, will give it a try! Although it's all a crapshoot from here (No. PA, 65 mi. west of Scranton)

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Well, then I doubt you’ll get it, since it’s a rinky-dink low-powered station that I have trouble getting sometimes, and I only live 15 miles away from the transmitter…

by PhilR8 on Sep 8, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

RZA!!!

"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

--Jerry Reed, on acting

by j.q. higgins on Sep 8, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy sh*t, 14-3. What happened to the nice, quiet 11-9 mess I predicted?!?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

O! Probably!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

R! Probably!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I! Probably!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

O! Absolutely!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

L! Incredibly!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

E! Improbably!

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

S! Definitively!

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

E! Homered-for-the-cycle-ly!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

S! Satisfyingly!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love watching nick

play right field.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish these girlie men would try and run on Nick.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

crimson guard for you too

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by Scott Christ on Sep 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

You're tossing out

battlefield promotions left and right, huh?

:)

Sorry I haven’t been around as much – work and kids are taking all my time these days. Daughter’s up to 5 days a week swimming practice, and don’t get me started on the boy…

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD

The Orioles Win!

And a HR cycle once more, Luke for the solo, RZA for the 2-run job, AJ with Earl’s favorite, and Aubrey with the GS…nice.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

This game was Listerine

removing the bad taste in my mouth after a 15 game losing streak.

by Y Not on Sep 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Aw man

they just showed the Luke shot again, damn that was nice. Ricocheted up off the warehouse. Is that how you spell that? It looks bizarre.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless Baldelli hits it, then its "roccocheted." But we're safe, he's doing nothing but whiffing lately.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Thorne just gave Jim the Webkinz giveaway on the air.

Hilarious.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Guts back tomorrow. People, we could be looking at a STREAK.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Guts scratched for tomorrow

He has the flu.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's one case

I can pretty much guarantee is NOT a hangover.

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 8, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarfate/Cormier experiment again?

Or bumping Rad up a day?

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

bumping up rad

waters on wed
bass? on thursday

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Roch

Tuesday Liz
Wednesday Waters
Thursday Bass!?!
Friday Cabrera
Saturday Guthrie
Sunday Olson

Yep, that’s a six-man rotation. Kind of a weird response to having 1.5 major league starters.

by dkdc on Sep 8, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I think

Bass is just making a spot start to make up for Guts having the flu.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Sep 9, 2008 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

But because of the off day, Cabrera could start on regular rest on Thursday and Guthrie could go on Friday.

I think they want to get a look at Bass as a starter.

by dkdc on Sep 9, 2008 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 9, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean I have to start watching again?

’Cause I will if I have to…

"I wasn't here for the losing years. But it feels a little like the days with Earl in charge and John Lowenstein smashing birthday cakes in the middle of the clubhouse with a bat." - John "T-Bone" Shelby

by duck on Sep 9, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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