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Yahoo! does these "Team Reports" and since I'm super bored, I thought we could shoot the sh breeze about the tidbits contained within.
Felix Pie gives the Orioles one of the youngest, best defensive outfields in baseball.The former Cubs center field prospect likely will get every opportunity to win the left field job after coming over in a trade for left-hander Garrett Olson and a low-level minor league pitcher. At worst, he’ll platoon with utility man Ryan Freel.
Pie, 24, teams with rangy center fielder Adam Jones, 23, and newly signed right fielder Nick Markakis, 25, who led baseball with 17 outfield assists last year.
However, the left-handed hitting Pie hasn’t translated his above-average minor league numbers to the majors, where he failed in two stints with the Cubs. He’ll likely bat in the lower third of the order, but—if he produces—could see some at-bats in the No. 1 or No. 2 slots to utilize his speed.
"Utilize his speed"? Pie is a career .299/.353/.470 hitter in the minors, with a 63% steal rate. He hit .287/.336/.466 and was 11-for-18 stealing bases with the Triple-A Iowa Cubs in 2008 (335 AB). It was a big regression for a guy in his age 23 season, and not exactly the sort of line I'd want to see perched at the top of the lineup. He's got really bad K-to-BB numbers for a potential top of the order guy, too. Felix looks like a bottom order hitter to me even if he succeeds in sticking around, which is certainly no guarantee. He has bombed in major league play (.223/.284/.331 in 260 AB).
I'd say I'm not trying to harsh Felix's buzz but I don't think Felix has much buzz left. Getting traded for Garrett Olson sort of gave me the impression the Cubs have flat-out given up on Pie, and usually when a team gives up on a guy, it's not good news. Yeah, I know, we gave up on John Maine and the Indians gave up on Jeremy Guthrie. Success stories do happen. But I'd also point out that Maine is merely a league average pitcher (the sting there gets a little better every year, even if we could use about four more league average pitchers) and that Guthrie's mid-career rebound is very rare. This trial with the Orioles is probably Pie's last best shot at becoming a major league regular. There are new players coming down the line every single year, and he's 24 now, so he can only ride the reputation as the Cubs' former top prospect so much longer.
Mostly I just think it's silly to consider Pie as a No. 1 or No. 2 hitter even if he hits, because his level of "if he hits" would have to surpass most everyone's expectations for him to be a better option up there than what's in place.
Of course Mora could collapse, leaving Markakis in the three hole, and then someone does have to hit second, which I'd sooner guess would be Adam Jones than Pie, but Jones' power might develop some more, which would probably make him the three hitter to break up Markakis and Huff (two lefties), instead of going Roberts-Pie-Markakis-Huff-Scott (five left-handed bats in a row on RHP days), but really it's more likely that Trembley leaves Mora somewhere in the middle of the lineup almost no matter what happens, because that's how Diamond Dave rolls. But I guess if all hell broke loose or Brian Roberts needed a day off, Felix Pie might hit leadoff in order to utilize his speed.
Luke Scott, the primary starter in left field last season, will take his powerful left-handed swing and average-at-best defense to the designated hitter slot.Right-handed hitting Lou Montanez might be able to crack the outfield picture, as well, if he can improve upon his defense.
We've had the discussions in comments recently, but Did You Know? that Luke Scott actually scored quite well in many defensive metrics for 2008? I know some of you statophobes that see with your eyes, MAN, can't be bothered with such nincompoopery, but it's science and maths, deal with it. Luke Scott is not the butcher he's sometimes made out to be. He is a totally adequate left fielder.
Lou Montanez might be able to crack the outfield picture, as well, if he can defy logic.
Markakis’ contract should go a long way toward convincing second baseman and impending free agent Brian Roberts to consider a long term contract extension. The Orioles and Roberts, their 31-year-old leadoff hitter, have been far apart on figures for most of the offseason, according to most reports.
I don't really know why Markakis' contract would go a long way toward convincing Brian Roberts to sign a long term contract extension, and truth be told as much as I like Roberts and see him being fine the next few seasons, I don't think he's so good that you want to crack the checkbook for five years or anything.
Adam Jones might be on the verge of a breakout season. After hitting nine home runs in his first full big-league season, Jones has put on 25 pounds of sheer muscle this winter, though he plans to trim down by five to 10 pounds by spring training. Jones’ right-handed bat would be a much-needed boost to the middle of the lineup.
This is crack reporting. In summary:
1. Muscles make you good! My mom told me to drink my milk so I'd grow up to be big and strong and my gym teacher told me to lift weights so I could be strong so I do that. Muscles make you good at sports, always. That's why people take steroids, so they can have big muscles and hit home runs. If you take steroids you wake up the next day looking like Gary Strydom:
2. Players hitting for power is good! If muscles make Adam Jones hit for more power, the Orioles will benefit.
RHP David Pauley, acquired from Boston for RHP Randor Bierd, could win a spot in the rotation with a strong spring. Pauley, who is out of minor league options, went 14-4 with the Red Sox’s Class AAA affiliate last season.RHP Radhames Liz will get an extended look as a starter in spring training; Orioles president Andy MacPhail has suggested the club’s former prospects will be given every opportunity to prove the club’s previous executives right. Liz, 25, could be used in the bullpen if he falters as a starter.
Considering the team has four open rotation slots, I'm pretty sure it goes without saying that Pauley and Liz are in the running.
1B Oscar Salazar was designated for assignment when the Orioles signed C Gregg Zaun. The right-handed hitter was a valued hitter to the club but had no established defensive position. The Orioles would like to bring him back on a minor league contract.
They're saying that Salazar was a valued hitter to the club. If true -- and I suppose it must be -- then that's strange, considering he's 31 years old with a career .805 OPS in the minors. The Orioles treating Salazar for what he is (a journeyman with no big league hope whatsoever, and a piece of a AAA team) is fine. If they wish to consider him more than that, there's a wire loose somewhere.
By The Numbers: 8—Teams Nick Markakis can list each season in his no-trade clause, part of the six-year, $66.1 million contract he signed recently.
I wonder what eight teams he's going to list this season? I'll guess Warshington, Colorado, Kansas City, Oakland, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Toronto and Texas. I know you might be thinking Seattle, but I figure they have the Space Needle and that Moose and Ichiro.
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I see no problem in just expecting way above average defense out of left field with Pie
Thats all we should expect. Any sort of hitting is gravy. McPhail understands what makes small to mid market teams chug(I know, I know, our woes should not be blamed on our market size) and thats outstanding defense. Building great defense can sometimes be as simple as placing another organization’s flameout in a position on the field, where based on his skills can easily thrive compared to the average defensive output from that position.
Carl Crawford isn’t an organizational flameout, but he sure is a way plus defender in left field. It hasn’t been unusual for the Twins over the last decade to award a starting position to the guy who plays superior defense over the superior hitter. The point is, I want plus defenders in any form they can come in.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Jan 24, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
defense is indeed the new OBP
pendulum seems to have swung from what Neyer calls “sluggardly sluggers” to what I’ll term “fearsome feilders” or something.
by pipkin on Jan 24, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's been going a few years
Ever since Billy Beane decided defense was the new market to exploit, coincidentally (?)
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by SC on Jan 24, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say I’m not trying to harsh Felix’s buzz but I don’t think Felix has much buzz left.
SC, 260 at bats. And that’s in two seasons… Let’s see how he does with a full season under his belt.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Jan 24, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats what i’m thinking. While i don’t think he’ll ever be a star, i could see him being solid hitting with above average defense. Few teams mess with their prospects as much as the Cubs do.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jan 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT is true
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by SC on Jan 24, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
If Jones and Markakis somehow made Scott’s defensive numbers better.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jan 24, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by SC on Jan 24, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I just remember seeing that his defensive numbers in Houston were about the same, so that would be way off anyways.
My thinking was that having plus range in center and right would allow them to shift toward left, but that was just wild thinking and really doesn’t make sense.
Maybe he gets a better jump on the ball than most, because he doesn’t look to be moving too fast out there.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Jan 25, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so I've heard
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by SC on Jan 24, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
numbers lie
"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"
by exitfare on Jan 24, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eyes deceive.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Jan 24, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Outfield Assists are irrelevant
A while ago, former Oriole Joe Orsulak led the league in outfield assists, yet wasn’t that good of an outfielder. The reason? EVERYONE ran on him, so he had to get somebody thrown out. So now we have some fast good defensive OF’s. BFD. They’ll combine for perhaps the same offensive stats as Vlad Guererro and will run real fast after all the double and triples hit off of our woeful pitchers. Great!
Rexx
by Rexx on Jan 25, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there will be fewer doubles and triples
because these guys will cover more ground. at least, in theory. I don’t actually know how good Pie is, but Jones and Markakis both have excellent range, especially Jones.
by pipkin on Jan 25, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pie is a plus center fielder
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Jan 25, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i figured as much
still kinda wonder if he’ll hit enough to replace luke.
i guess its not an ideal situation, but its the best use of the personnel on hand. unless Pie really proves he can’t hit, which probably means running Luke back out to left (or calling up Reimold) and using Freel at first or something.
by pipkin on Jan 25, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you make me feel like I'm the eternal optimist
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Jan 25, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone actually watched that Strydom video?
It’s worth it, I promise you.
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by SC on Jan 24, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love Vince's announcing
The Brain has absolutely no reason to be there, but he’s still great. This is probably one of those dial-a-crowds in LA. Such a made for tv creation.
Vince was never about just creating faces and heels. He was about superheroes and villains and this is just an extension of that. It’s just so damn ridiculous. I don’t need to crack any jokes. The thing is a joke in itself.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Jan 24, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The best part is the
poorly acted scene in the beginning of the clip. Those spanish gang members sure seemed motivated by the words of one Mr. Strydom. I am thinking of getting the Gary Strydom logo tattooed in the middle of my back.
"...that our flag was still there...OOOOOO say does that star spangled..."
by sickuvitall on Jan 25, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick's no-trade
Will probably include the Angels. He hates the shit out of Torii Hunter. *
- = This is not at all true. At least not to my knowledge.
by Brotz13 on Jan 25, 2009 1:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Every so often it's good to recall the old adage "Sucktitude loves company."
We will be shelled mercilessly this season, as our rotation is Guts and 4 Days of Rain. But if we turn up a Bruce Chen anomaly guy and win enough 9-7 games, in the end we’ll come in around 70-73 W. Meanwhile, the Gnats are so awful on so many levels that you could say they’ll be driving neighborhood property values down. Or making us look competent. Or making Montreal feel just better and better.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/23/AR2009012301740_pf.html
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Jan 25, 2009 1:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
how does jim bowden still have a job?
seriously. how?
by pipkin on Jan 25, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Incriminating pictures of Lerner and a goat.
That’s my theory, anyway.
"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08
by getxstoked on Jan 25, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So I hear that Luke Scott is an excellent defender.
"fuck the Yankees and fuck the Red Sox and all their players and fans and former players and fans and their loved ones and pets as well!" sickuvitall
by birdman on Jan 25, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ha, ha.
Ha ha, hahahaha…haha!!
"...that our flag was still there...OOOOOO say does that star spangled..."
by sickuvitall on Jan 25, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think it was "excellent driver."
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Jan 26, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's an excellent shot
and of course he’s a great defender and not just because he has a conceal-carry permit. the proof and power is in his secret book.
by brooksflow on Jan 26, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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