Extensions, etc.
by 2632 on Jan 7, 2009 8:15 PM EST
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Warehouse vs Roberts:
Orioles have offered a multi-year deal worth about $10 million per season, but the sides are still significantly apart in terms of both years and money.
The article goes on to quote Andy asserting that he has had no trade talks regarding Roberts in over a month and that he is focused on the free agent market, trying to feel needs without giving up the team's existing talent assets.
Warehouse vs Markakis:
Both sides would like to get a multi-year deal secured this year. An industry source confirmed that the Orioles offered Markakis a six-year, $60 million deal earlier this winter and, at the time, the sides were believed to be about $10 million apart.
Nick's agent says discussions were tabled in December to see how the market trend evolved.
Warehouse vs My Heart
At this time, the club does not appear interested in re-signing veteran Kevin Millar...
Instead they are pursuing such exciting targets as Rocco Baldelli, Ty Wiggington and Camden Chat Fan Favorite, Richie Sexton.
Orioles Warehouse Magic, feel it happen.
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I don't think B-Rob is getting signed.
But they had damn well better get Nick’s name on a long term contract.
Am I the only one who wouldn’t totally hate Ty Wigginton? He’s not a long term solution…but if we ever found one he can play 1B to replace MelMo, and might not be a total embarrassment (128 OPS+ last year – due for a regression, sure, but 105 would be better than Sexson or, Heaven forfend, Ivan Rodriguez).
Millar can go piss up a rope.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
wigginton
perfectly acceptable.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
I'll give Walt Jocketty this
He signed Albert Pujols to a major long term contract relatively in his career, still while everybody knew he was gonna be the next Ted Williams and it was pretty much a bargain. They will now have the greatest baseball player in the universe playing for them for a very long time, consequently. This is the time to sign him, while Nick is still far enough away from his walk year that he can’t sniff the huge offers and has second thoughts about staying here. THIS IS THE TIME!
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
despite my recent arguments about not panicking in Nick's case
Give the man $70 million! That’s not that much!
Thank you.
It does me well to read your post pip. I guess my numbers were not too far off if this report is accurate.
WHAT ain't no country I ever heard of. Do they speak english in WHAT?
Let him go, girl
We’ll always have the Orioles Magic video.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
I still say bring Millar back...
As third base coach. My hatred for Juan Samuel borders on the irrational. If Kev has two functioning eyes and can figure out when to send Melvin Mora (hint: NEVER), he’d be a marked improvement. Besides, Juan named one of his sons Samuel. SAMUEL SAMUEL. Who does that?
Think about it, Kev. You can go sign with like the Pirates for the sake of continuing to play ball, or you could still be the fun clubhouse guy on a team you already enjoy, with the added bonus of not having to like jog every day. Sure, Juan Samuel would have to disappear first, but…you leave that to me.
Millar
I can’t see Millar EVER stopping anyone at 3rd. Although we employed the “never stop running” strategy in a softball game once and we actually erased a very sizable deficit. Plus it was entertaining as hell.
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
Oh and also
I wouldn’t be totally opposed to Baldelli. I think he’s a risk the O’s could take. Now that his illness has been rediagnosed as less severe or whatever he could be decent.
[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8
Wigginton > Millar
Baldelli probably > Millar
Millar > Sexton
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
You and your rational, fact-based perspective.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again."
it's the associative property of baseball
Sexton > Fahey
Fahey > a dead cat
a dead cat > Ponson
by zknower on Jan 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ponson > Baez
Baez > Hendrickson
Hendrickson > dead mouse caught by dead cat
I’m hoping, of course, that we can still squeeze some value outta Danys, but maybe we should just go with the dead cat after all.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
let's let Hendrickson suck for us
before we drop him below Ponson and Baez.
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
Baldelli is not exactly an every-day first basemen
or an every day anything.
Although on some of his days off we could move Huff to 1st and have Wieters DH since he clearly can’t catch every day and we’d still want his bat.
do you think...
one healthy ballplayer could be built out of the carcases of nomar and baldelli?
…actually, given the re-assessment of rocco’s health, as pointed out by stacey, could he be do some sort of renaissance like magglio ordonez a few years back or milton bradley last year?
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
Garko
How do you all feel about Ryan Garko? Isn’t he available?
he should stay available
and not ever wear Orange and Black unless it’s for a minor league team. I don’t want a 1B with a SLG of .404 unless his OBP matches it.
In all honesty he’d be an upgrade over Millar, certainly…but I don’t like his bat at first or DH and he can’t play anywhere else. Even looking back at his minor league numbers I don’t see any reason to hope he’ll ever be any good.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jan 8, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
seriously...
if the thought is even to consider prusuing garko, just go ahead and put brandon snyder in there.
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Jan 8, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
*Shrug*
Garko sounds better than Sexson, Baldelli, and the other suspects. I’d probably say keep Millar over Garko, but if my other options are that limited, bring me Garko.
but he just isn't very good
I don’t care if his name is Kal-El Bruce Barry J’onnz-Wayne. He’s not worth trading more than a bucket of warm spit for. Brandon Snyder is probably the same player, as higgins said above.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jan 8, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well, scratch Baldelli off the list
Red Sox own his ass now.
"AY STRANG, AT BOY MARLO SCOOPIN UP ALL THE FREE AGENTS"
I was thinking Baldelli might be worth a risk.
The fact the Sox signed him sort of reinforces that thought.
Then there is also the little tidbit of them signing Smoltz as well. Too bad our rotation is so stacked that we didn’t have a spot for him.
hakkaa päälle !
john smoltz ain't signing with the orioles
i’m guessing he wants a little more postseason glory and the best shot to rack up some wins
I would not have bet on his signing with us.
But I wonder what might have happened if he had received a call from us first. One of the major determinates appears to be dollars. Atlanta was not willing to offer very much.
hakkaa päälle !
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