Thursday Bird Droppings
by Camden Chat on Oct 1, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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Orioles' losing streak reaches 13 - baltimoresun.com
"For me, it's frustrating," said Mora, who is not expected back next year for a 10th season with the Orioles. "I don't know how everybody else feels. When you've been part of an organization for a long time, it's kind of like part of my family. If anybody else doesn't feel it, I feel it." Oh, we feel it, Melvin, we feel it. - duck
ESPN: MLB Players who've thrived for losing teams
"In this final regular-season installment of Starting 9, we pay tribute to other players who achieved noteworthy things on sub-.500 teams in 2009." Only one Oriole is named. But he's so dreamy.... - duck
O's farmhands tear it up at World Cup - MASNsports.com
"In case you missed it, Orioles farmhand Paco Figueroa (Spain) led the World Cup with a .500 average (17-for -34) and Miguel Abreu (Puerto Rico) was named to the all-World Cup Team after batting .380 in the tournament." Thanks for the good news, Roch. - duck
Orioles owe Trembley a fair chance to finish rebuilding job - baltimoresun.com
"The Orioles' team bus is about to be put on blocks for the winter, which will make it a lot easier to throw Dave Trembley under it. So what if he can't reasonably be held responsible for the dismal performance of a dismal team? Somebody needs to give up a pound of flesh for this disaster, and that somebody is usually the manager. But it doesn't have to go down that way." Peter Schmuck, unlike Kevin Cowherd, says give Diamond Dave a chance with a real lineup and bullpen before axing him. - duck
Miguel Tejada's future in Houston - Examiner.com (Houston)
The article (eventually) talks about how Houston's not going to re-sign Miggy. Here's a crazy thought - what about a return to Baltimore? He may not have the power he once did, but he's still a pretty good hitting shortstop. It would keep him from landing in Boston, if nothing else. - duck
2 months after injury, Bergesen still can't run -- baltimoresun.com
Bergy is still hurting from the line drive off his shin, and our favorite pitcher Bob McCrory has the dreaded fabrum bear. - Stacey
When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Open Thread.
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About Tejada...
You know, Tejada would not be a crazy short-term solution at third base until Josh Bell is ready to take over…
sure. stick miggy at third.
give him some b-12 shots
keep his probation officer right down the tunnel
keep the birthday celebrations low-key
and keep an eye on him in blowout games when his Dominican brothers are on the other team
by thewaywardO on Oct 1, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
honestly...
all his bad stuff came out elsewhere. Thats good enough for me. I wouldnt be COMPLETELY against bringing him back for 2 years at most at 3rd. Maybe even let him play a few games at ss. I’m not completely for it (for all the reasons wayward listed there), but we could do worse at 3rd. Hell, we ARE doing worse at 3rd.
Am I the only one
Who wants to see Aubrey Huff come back? Maybe one year and one year team option. That would be shrewd.
You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!
by Senatorrosewater on Oct 1, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
NO WAY
Did you SEE his numbers this week?
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
week = year
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
We need better than Aubrey Huff
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
i agree
but find me someone better that actually wants to play for baltimore and then we’ll discuss. it’s kinda the same thing with john lackey. i want him, but the question is, does he want us?
Probably not
He thinks Baltimore is a horseshit town
"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."
I rather see Wiggs at 3rd
than have Huff back. I love the guy and all, but he’s just not very good. Why pay for a guy like Huff when we have plenty of guys that can suck just as badly as him already on payroll?
Tell me we're not talking about Huff at 3B
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(as a 1B/DH who is willing to take a big pay cut on a 1 year deal, maybe)
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
If Bell is ever ready to take over
We don’t need a stopgap, we just need more middle infielders in general.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Bergy.. as if we needed another reason to hate Billy Butler
Or do you think Bergy is just wisely avoiding the sinking ship that is this season, putting all his chips on 2010?
I think his leg hurts, a lot
and he couldn’t pitch right now even if he wanted to.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
What the hell is going on with that though??? It was a bruise and it's been forever.
Maybe he should get a 2nd opinion or something.
its not bruised
i wouldnt be surprised if that’s a fracture. had multiple stress fractures during high school that were really hard to detect on xray.
by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone find any info/stats on the prevalence of labrum tears in MLB?
It just seems that the O’s have plenty going around. The O’s also have a good chunk of the young players shut down. I hope this is the last year we’re treated to this. No more excuses next year. Please.
This Trembley thing needs to be cleared up soon. I personally can’t muster up the energy to care one way or the other. I like the guy, but can understand if he becomes a scapegoat. MacPhail will not chastise himself for the crap talent and the crap way the O’s have closed out the second half of the season. If they let Trembley go, they ought to at least keep it quiet (it’s just between him and MacPhail and no writers with an inside scoop) and let him resign with any statement he desires.
As for Tejada, I don’t care if he comes back. He’d be an above average stop gap. I always thought his complaints were understandable. MacPhail strikes me as a guy who will not bring him back if only because of those public complaints about the O’s.
It may be a case
of medical personnel are getting better at diagnosing it, rather than an increase in actual cases
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
I always thought his complaints were understandable. MacPhail strikes me as a guy who will not bring him back if only because of those public complaints about the O’s.
His complaints may have been understandable, but the way he delivered them is not.
I don’t want Tejada anywhere near this team. You want to get rid of a “losing culture”? Don’t bring in formerly-talented primma-donna has-beens who don’t run out ground balls is a way to start.
"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo
An optimist might counter that Roberts is laying the foundation for a Hall of Fame run.
thats pretty optimistic.
Dude! Roberts is a lock!
They can’t deny the Hall of Fame to the guy who holds the single season record for doubles by a switch hitter. That would be like keeping out the first guy to hit 61 home runs, or the all time leader in hits.
Some records are immortal, and I’m pretty sure doubles by a switch hitter is one of them. Roberts is first ballot HOF, no doubt about it.
"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."
I know, right?
I love Brian, but that’s a bit rich
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Is that a serious statement?
Raffy was borderline, but Brian Roberts has a good chance?
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Its from the ESPN artcicle
A pessimist might note that Roberts has played 1,129 career games without a postseason appearance. That’s the ninth-longest drought among active players, behind Randy Winn, Mike Sweeney, Michael Young, Aubrey Huff, Adam Dunn, Frank Catalanotto, Vernon Wells and Jack Wilson.
An optimist might counter that Roberts is laying the foundation for a Hall of Fame run. He just recorded his third season with 100 runs, 70 walks, 50 doubles and 25 stolen bases. Tris Speaker, Kiki Cuyler, Craig Biggio and Bobby Abreu are the only other players to manage that combination, and they all did it once.
Yeah I wasn't implying that you said it
But it’s still a joke.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Whether Trembley is thrown under the bus
over the bus or given a job as a bus driver, he has to go.
by Fred Sanford on Oct 1, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
100 losses
Cmon Orioles, only 2 more losses and you will complete
a futility mark that only a sad organization like you can
do. I have complete faith in you, that will be your gift to
the long time fans who have supported you for many years. YOU SUCK!!!
I saw highanddry at teh mall the other day
he also likes to taunt old ladies with rosaries, people in wheelchairs, and kids with cancer, so don’t take it personally.
You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!
by Senatorrosewater on Oct 1, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
I saw him throwing boxes of roofing nails out of his truck window on the beltway
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
The O's are such a drag during football season
Such a downer.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
its true
I’m trying to be a good fan and stay on top of everything. I really am. I just cant stay tuned for 3 hours to watch Screech and Lou and Hendo. All my favorite teams are doing great (including the Ravens, Saints, and of course the Giants) and even RU has turned things around to make my college season interesting after a horrid start. There’s just nothing left this year except maybe to watch Mr Wieters continue to prove that he is the greatest player of all time ever. Outside of that, yea, its a downer.
Rutgers still needs to beat a semi-decent opponent after that huge loss to Cincy
I did not overlook any teams in the Knights’ schedule.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
I agree
I’m just happy they are winning. Howard, FIU, and Maryland arent exactly traditional powerhouses or anything, but its nice to see RU isnt THAT bad after that horrid beatdown by cincy. Its also good to see Cincy being ranked so high, because it makes that loss look a bit less horrible. If they beat Pitt i’ll start getting a bit more excited, but for now i’m good.
The Redskins are even more of a drag during football season
At least hockey is starting tonight.
Even atheists believe in Matt Wieters
And to be a drag...
I can’t watch my Caps because Comcast and DirecTV haven’t decided who wins their pissing match yet. :(
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
Its on Versus tonight....
Thats on DirecTV right Duck? Im hoping to be watching it…
Ovechkin is an animal… I love watching those guys.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign....
I hate Comcast. I really, really do.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
Sign = Sigh...
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
the cards are winning 12-0 and pujols doesnt have a single rbi
chris carpenter hit a grand slam and has six rbi. i’d love to see if the o’s bullpen could hold THAT lead
I hate Comcast
I really, really do.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
That article
says the dispute is between directv and versus. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I hate Comcast so I’m sure they’re to blame. But what is their role in this?
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Comcast owns Versus
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
by duck on Oct 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Im calling all the bars in the area asking if they have DISH or FIOS
They ALL have effing DirecTV. Versus is being greedy….
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
did anyone else see that thing about mauer tipping off signals from second?
i think that was kinda stupid
Yeah total BS.
A) if your signs are that easy to pick it’s your own fault
B) it hardly even helps, especially with a guy like Verlander pitching who moves so fast once he gets the sign and throws so hard that the hitter really doens’t have time to take his eyes off of his arm slot to look at the baserunner and then get back to the arm window in time to pick up the ball.
C) everybody does that if you can pick their signs – that’s why teams go to multiple signs with a runner on second.
However, I will say that he was being blatant as fuck about it and it may have had something to do with the beanball war that happened today.
i mean...i personally don't really care about stealing signals
sure mauer needs to be a little less obvious, but i dont really see the big deal about it. if you don’t change up your signals, then thats your own fault.
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