Bird Droppings: MacPhail on the Offseason, The Kid re-ups with the M's, and GM Meeting Buzz
by Camden Chat on Nov 12, 2009 7:00 AM EST
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Adam Jones is NOT a super-two eligible player
Mike Fontenot, Adam Jones, and Micah Owings all had two years, 139 days of service time and Fontenot won the tie-breaker, meaning Adam Jones JUST missed it. This will end up saving the Orioles millions of dollars, but hopefully that doesn't mean they'll give Adam the shaft. -Stacey
O's lay groundwork for offseason
"There was time to talk to a few clubs and I think we got the basics accomplished. I think we explored the things that we needed to explore, but I never got the feeling we were close to doing anything." Thus spake Andy. -duck
Snyder, Waring to end AFL stints early
Roch says... "Brandon Snyder has taken his last swings in the Arizona Fall League. Snyder returned home to attend a wedding this weekend, and he won't rejoin the Phoenix Desert Dogs. He batted .354 with five doubles, one triple, three homers and 18 RBIs in 17 games. Brandon Waring is starting at first base tonight, but this will be his last game, too. He also has a wedding to attend and will be removed from the roster." Weddings? Really? Kids these days... -duck
City gives up stadium to the county, for $1
Everything is ready to go for the O's to move in for Spring Training 2010....except for the Orioles actually telling anyone they'll be there. -Stacey
SI.com's top 50 Free Agents
Billy Wagner and Adrian Beltre are identified as best fits for the Orioles. -Stacey
Victor Zambrano's mother rescued in Venezuela
Thank goodness. I never had any affection for Victor Zambrano, but this entire story was so upsetting. I'm glad mother and son have been reunited. -Stacey
Wednesday's buzz from the GM meetings
As mentioned by Andrew in the comments yesterday, the Orioles appear to be pursuing Dan Uggla. Also mentioned is the possibility of George Sherrill being traded to the Tigers for Edwin Jackson (speculation on Rosenthal's part). -Stacey
Mariners sign Ken Griffey Jr. for 2010
Maybe this is selfish of me, but I wish Griffey would retire. The longer I have to watch him as an old man the harder it is for me to remember when he was The Kid. -Stacey
Zimmerman wins Gold Glove
Congrats to the Nationals Ryan Zimmerman on the first Gold Glove of his career. Unlike some players, you'd be hard pressed to find a 3B in the NL with a better glove than him. The Nationals fan can hold his head high. -Stacey
Is Sammy Sosa the New Michael Jackson? - Beauty & Skin - FOXNews.com
"It's a cream that I have, that I use to soften (my skin), but has bleached me some. I'm not a racist, I live my life happily," he said. Sure, Sammy, sure... -duck
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The kicker about Adam not being Super-Two?
Matt Albers is.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
Albers won't get much of a raise though
As far as Jones is concerned, that saved the O’s $5-$8M. They’ll squander it somehow
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
Oh, Nats
On Twitter, Keith Law was killing Washington for hiring (or retaining) Riggleman “to save $20”. He pointed out that Riggleman routinely allowed a 21-year-old Kerry Wood to rack up 125+ pitch counts when he managed the Cubs. Good news for Strasburg and their other young arms, huh?
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
So now Sammy has admitted to using the cream
I wonder if he used the clear as well…
Oh, and not to nitpick, but it shoud say Sherrill could be traded to Detroit, not the Dodgers. Also, I havent actually looked at the Uggla thing, but what are we gonna do with Dan Uggla? Move him to 3rd? I just never liked him. I’d probably like him more if he wore an O’s hat though.
OK, so I read the articles
I’d be down with Uggla on the team, though it might not be fun watching him play defense. He’s a better option than Beltre.
I'm really, really worried about his defense
I know Uggla is a better bat, but if he’s a total butcher over there he might cost as many runs with his glove as he’d create over Beltre with his bat.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
With our young pitchers, we need the defense
I’d rather have (a healthy) Crede than Uggla at 3B. I’d take Feliz over Uggla, esp since he hits lefties a little better.
I think Uggla’s offense would come down when he trades Nats pitching for MFY pitching. And he can’t field at 2B, so how is he going to be anything but a liability at the hot corner?
I think Beltre’s offense would improve some coming out of Safeco, where his tOPS+ is 84. Although Beltre is terrible at the Trop and Fenway, he’s better at OPaCY and MFYS. And the man can pick, and that’s really what we need if we’re going to expect great things from Bergy and the gang.
Plus we can take on an injury risk 3B given that we have other options, and aren’t looking for a full time, long term solution from a FA.
IOW, No to Uggla.
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
by CoachOfEarl on Nov 12, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I think
His offense would come up when you trade the marlins stadium for CY. Regardless of pitching.
OPS+ accounts for park effects.
In 3 out of last 4 years, Uggla has posted an OPS+ between 108 and 112. That’s not great production from 3B especially at $8M.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Plenty of 3B put up a OPS+ better than 110 last year. A-Rod, Youks, Michael Young, Longoria, Zimmerman, Chipper, David Wright, Scott Rolen, Casey Blake, Mark Reynolds, and Kung-fu panda. Uggla would definitely be near the bottom quarter of 3B unless he returns to 2008 levels. In fact, he would be near Figgins (108 OPS+ in 2009) and Beckham (107 OPS+ in 2009) but the above the truly crap 3B like Teahen and Inge (who at least brings a strong glove). Among the good 3B, only Longoria and Kung-fu panda are cheap.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
$8M for a 3B who’s going to be in the bottom quarter of 3B? That’s not good especially for a team that won’t be competing in the next two years.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 12, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well you named all the guys who are better than him and only two of them make less than him (and they won’t for long), so yeah it seems reasonable to me.
it’s all about production matching the money baby. for a 2B, that’s good value. but for 3B, it’s definitely on the pricey side. it’s not a bad though, but it’s far from a good one.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 13, 2009 2:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm confused.
None of the people you named were 3rd basemen and all but 2 make more than him and those two only make less because they haven’t gotten to FA yet. So…
you expect different production from different positions. take two players who hit exactly the same, put one at SS and another at 1B, the dollar value attached to those two identical offensive performances will be different because of positional differences.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 13, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But so what?
He makes what he makes and he would theoretically be playing 3B, so you would have to compare him to 3Bmen. You named all the 3Bmen who were better than him and the only two who made less were only due to age/service time. So…I’m struggling to see how his current production at his current salary would not be a good value at 3B…
He makes what he makes and he would theoretically be playing 3B, so you would have to compare him to 3Bmen.
I believe his production is not commensurate w/ his salary at 3B. It’s as simple as that.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Ok
But then you named all the 3Bmen who have/could have better production than Uggla and all of them except for 2 (who haven’t reached free agency yet) make more than him. So obviously the market disagrees with you.
So obviously the market disagrees with you.
i’m not sure why you’re fixated w/ the market. the market can be very stupid (see Michael Young). And of course, those guys make more than Uggla because they’re better for one. And two, that doesn’t even matter anyways because many of those guys aren’t comparable! Why? Because Uggla is a pre-arb player while many of those guys were paid on the open market (e.g. Rolen, Blake, A-Rod). In any case, who are cares about the market. i would rather pay attention to actual value (i.e., dollar value relative to production).
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Yeah
but who cares that much about his defense? If he’s really abismal (which I doubt he would be), stick him at DH and let Luke butcher it up over at 1B. With the DH it doesn’t really seem like that big of a deal. Worth it to figure out a way to get his 30 HRs and 90+ RBI in the lineup at CY.
That was supposed to read something like
Yeah but who cares that much about his defense? If it’s really horrible (which I doubt it will be THAT bad), stick him at DH and put Luke Scott at 1B or something. Doesn’t seem like that big of a risk when you have the DH. Maybe they’ll trade Scott over the offseason and then Uggla could be the everyday DH.
Uggla v. Luuke
I mean, really, we already have that kind of production, for cheaper, from someone who isn’t a defensive genius, but is at least more playable, that we’re considering trading away. Ugg is questionable in the field and once you move him away from 2B, his bat really doesn’t look that big.
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
by CoachOfEarl on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
A few more charts
Make it look like Luke’s ’09 was more of an aberration while Uggla is one streaky sumbitch.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
The Lord works in mysterious ways
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
by CoachOfEarl on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
That is brand new information!
;-)
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
i agree
plus all of those times where he looked flat out awful at the plate. gives a couple weeks of that and then knocks the socks of the ball a week later and still turns out with a decent OPS.
by twistedlogic on Nov 13, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Don't worry
Most stats can be manipulated to mean whatever people want them to. Here are the stats that back up what you believe:
Luke was super hot when he got called up for the second half in 2006. Then in 2007 he kicked some ass against NL Central pitching. But in 2008 and 2009 he’s been streaky as a motherfucker. His time with the Astros is what keeps his career average looking so even.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
You know, you’re making the assumption that ever player should have a flat line from April to Sept. I’m wondering, and I don’t know if this is true, if we were super impose a bunch of player graphs over Luke’s graphs, would they look any different? Isn’t it possible that LOTS of players have ups and down in one season like Luke and Uggla exhibits?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I'm not assuming that at all
I know most player have ups and downs. I’d actually replied something to that effect to twisted logic above but before I could hit post my internet connection crapped out and I never went back and recreated it.
I’d imagine that you’d agree that Luke’s ‘09 was not something that most good players have in a year because it was straight up ridiculous. I think that people tend to focus too much on Luke’s ‘09 because it was so crazy and forget that while he does go up and down he’s not normally so extreme.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Sure, I guess I’m not sure why we’re making such a big deal about Luke’s streakiness. I’m just guessing out of my ass but I wouldn’t be surprised if lots of players are streaky. Maybe not as extreme as Luke’s 2009 season , which as you say was straight up ridiculous, but players have their ups and downs, whoppee doo, From July 12th and onward, Luke was a pain in the ass to watch. It sucked. He’s still cool in my book.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
because what else am I gonna talk about :-)
Mostly I don’t really want Dan Uggla to be an Oriole. I mean, it wouldn’t be the worse move ever, but still. I know O’sFan21 doesn’t give a shit about his defense, but I cringe at the idea of some doofus out there booting balls at 3B with all of the O’s young pitchers on the mound. So I sort of want to point out everything that’s wrong with Dan Uggla. Somehow that spiraled into Luke’s streakiness.
But you’re right. No one says boo about Adam Jones being streaky but I bet if we looked at his numbers they’d be just as whack as Luke’s.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
And Nick Markakis as well. Where’s the Nick Markakis hate? He started off on fire, cooled off in May and June, got back on track in July and August before ending the season in a slump.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Because Nick Markakis' arm...
never goes on vacation. :)
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
And how the hell did you make and post those fancy graphs?
Also, have heard Jim Bowden on XM with Seth Everett? Oh man, the chemistry between those two is so fucked up. Jimbo is such an ego maniac who hogs the mic. That pisses Seth off. Jimbo isn’t going to last long. Jim Duquette, on the other hand, is super collegial. But I can never quite like him because, you know, he’s Jim Duquette.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Google docs
It’s your friend.
I haven’t heard Bowden. Are they on afternoons?
I like Jim Duquette. He has a very radio friendly voice. Billy Ripken drives me bonkers.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Oh, so you entered in the data into google docs to create the charts. That’s too much work for me.
I don’t know when Bowden is on regularly. It may be a temporary gig. He’s douche. Duquette does have a friendly radio voice. Actually, he’s just a very friendly guy in general. But every time I hear him, I want a pull a Costanza on him.
Mr. Cushman : Ah, Mr. Steinbrenner Duquette, sir. There’s someone here I’d like you to meet. This is Mr. Costanza Birdman. He’s one of the applicants.
Mr. Steinbrenner Duquette : Nice to meet you.
Me: "Well, I wish I could say the same, but I must say, with all due respect, I find it very hard to see the logic behind some of the moves you have made with this fine organization. In the past twenty five years you have caused myself, and the city of New York Baltimore, a good deal of distress, as we have watched you take our beloved Yankees Orioles and reduced them to a laughing stock, all for the glorification of your massive ego!
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
oops, i wish suppose to strikeout steinbrenner not italicize it.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I also just plain don't like Luke
His guns and his jesus rub me the wrong way. So his hot/cold streaks bother me more than others. Also he generally has a stupid haircut.
+1
And isn’t fangraphs the best thing ever?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 13, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's right
Brock Lesnar knocking out Frank Mir is. Just sayin’. That, and spray cheese. Seriously underrated.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
thats just nasty
cheese should NEVER be liquid. EVER.
by twistedlogic on Nov 13, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
my bad
I’ll fix it. It was late at night, so sue me.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
I feel like being a racist doesn't necessarily mean you're not happy.
An asshole, yes, but you could certainly be happy.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
There is bliss in ignorance at times
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
beltre or uggla
ill take uggle yes beltre is better defensivly but his offense is horrid the past 3 years and uggla can get better at d he is young and i am sure roberts will help him and i am also sure that beltres bat speed and leg speed are on a steady decline and won’t improve now go sign ben sheets on the cheap
Three points
1) Uggla will be 30 on Opening Day. Not so young.
2) If we’d be slotting him in at 3rd, I don’t know that Brian Roberts is going to help him any.
3) Punctuation? Your friend.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on Nov 12, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
4) Uggla is under control for only 2 years.
5) Uggla is going to be quite expensive a year from now.
I’d give up Cla Meredith for Uggla. Or one of our fringy prospects (e.g., Justin Turner, Mr. Mandy Moore) can go for Uggla. But that’s it.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Which one is dating Mandy Moore again?
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
the real Ryan Adams is dating Mandy Moore
He’s a Cardinal anyway (har har). The fake Ryan Adams is an Orioles Prospect.
Oh is THAT who Mr. Mandy Moore is?
I really had no idea but thought maybe I was supposed to know so I didn’t ask.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
They’re just not dating. They’re married.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Adrian Beltre is perfect for this team
why trade draft picks or prospects for Uggla when you can get a slightly worse player at the same position for probably the same amount of money.
Perfect??? let's not go crazy
He’s a great fielder who sucks at hitting and who’s agent is Scott Boras. Don’t see how he’s “perfect” for anybody.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 12, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if you think luke is streaky wait until you see uggla!
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
How do you figure?
Uggla’s monthly OPS:
April: 745
May: 745
June: 840
July: 726
August: 949
September: 845
October: 845
Luke’s monthly OPS
April: 817
May: 1.479
June: 760
July: 716
July: 716
September: .824
October (didn’t play – 5 ABs no hits)
Well, they both had three good months.
Ugga hit well in June, August, and Sept/Oct. Luke hit well until July 12
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Well
Well Uggla’s month to month performance never got as low or as high as Luke’s – that’s less streaky no?
splitting hairs at this point.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
again splitting hairs
small sample sizes (e.g., monthly stats) are susceptible to wild fluctuations.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
i was talking more fantasy production as i’ve had him the last couple of years. not these make believe numbers you refer to as “stats”
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
i'm getting hopped up on painkillers
so ignore the rst of my comments tonight
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Cool! It's not just me!
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
Ryan Zimmerman
had a worse fielding percentage than Melvin Mora this year…just sayin
just sayin
…that fielding percentage is stupid.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
Ryan Zimmerman is a very good third baseman.
He had the highest UZR of any NL 3B and it wasn’t even close. I don’t have the Bill James numbers in front of me but he was at the top of all of those categories as well and was awarded the Fielding Bible award for third base. He was over 18 runs above average in range factor, the next closest guy was 3 something.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
He throws so many balls away though
on easy plays
by NickMarkaces on Nov 12, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
That just goes to show how good he is: he can throw balls away and still be that much better than anyone else
Even atheists believe in Matt Wieters
fielding % and UZR are ridiculous stats
that said, zimmerman has an outstanding glove at 3b. he does throw quite a few away, but thats correctable
by twistedlogic on Nov 12, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
O's interested in Crede?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/11/12/gm.meetings/1.html
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Stacey, I saw your thread on the OH
and I’m pretty certain that most of the people that posted in it have their heads firmly shoved somewhere in their posterior region.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
I actually had to remember my login and password
just to go check that out. And it was worth it.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
I just sought it out
some great comments from that thread:
Maryland has some of the brightest sports minds and it shows more often than not.
But there are a lot of comments – it seems like more than half of them – that agree with Stacey. As quick as I am to paint all OH denizens with the same broad stroke, there seem to be a lot of people who recognize the problem and just tune out:
Almost nothing makes me stop reading a thread faster then an unrealistic trade. A collection of young O’s players for AGon is high on the list of unrealistic. MacPhail has said that is not the kind of trade he will make.
I try not to comment on them because they have no basis in fact.
The threads might seem like a circle jerk because those who disagree abstain. Although, once ScottieBaseball enters the conversation, things go downhill rapidly. Typical.
I wonder how that LocalSportsHangout venture is going?
Completely dead.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Yeah I was just reading up on it
It was an immature “ha-ha” on my part. But seriously, the whole thing just made me sad. They thought they could make money with the stuff they had up there? Really? And Tony’s last comment is the saddest part of all – he totally misunderstands why it failed. I hope he didn’t lose too much money.
That's because Scottie Baseball is sworn to uphold the honor of OH
All of their mods are pretty touchy. Not at all like here. I mean, you saw how well things went when Jonny Pops said something about our content ;)
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
by Stacey on Nov 12, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup, skin as thick as rhinos, that's what we have... :)
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
ha ha
some people got what I was saying. It’s not a complete wasteland over there :)
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Uggla
had career lows across the board last year. He’s not a career 30 hr, 90 rbi guy.
i broke two bones a combined total of four times monday night playing softball so my typing stinks.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Is this a response to something?
And what do you mean he’s not a 30 HR/90 RBI guy?
2006: 27/90
2007: 31/88
3008:32/92
2009:31/90
If that’s not a 30HR/90RBI guy, who is???
i cant freakin' reply at work
and spoke too soon…i averaged it and he was a 27 / 81 guy and missed a lot of time. so you’re right…happy now :)
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
oh man...
i’m not sure what ’09 stats i was looking at…nevermind…again.
but just b/c a guy is LESS streaky than Luke doesn’t mean they arent streaky.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
I guess
watching Luke this past year though, even a pretty streaky guy would look like consistency to me.
What bones did you break? I would make fun of you for breaking bones playing softball, if I hadn’t broken a bone in my hand two years ago (getting run over by a girl/woman). Apparently it’s the worst bone to break in your hand/wrist/arm and I was in a cast for about 4 months. Narrowly avoided surgery. It was brutal. Still hurts two years later.
broke the pinkie finger bone on left hand in several places and ring finger bone in two. was playing CF and came in on a short fly ball and slid on my butt to catch the ball but caught the tip of my glove on the ground and rolled my hand. i had never broken a bone before despite playing football/baseball/basketball in school and doing a lot of other stupid stuff including rolling a four wheeler.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
ugh - no surgery though right?
I’ve broken a bunch of things (ribs twice, wrist twice, hang), but it always sucks. Having the stupid cast on forever is the worst. Especially when it starts to smell.
not sure yet, i'm splinted now
and had to wait to see a hand specialist until monday. i guess good “hand jobs” are hard to come by.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
I broke the fifth metacarpal (pinky finger bone in my hand)
This was two years ago. Just one break, near the top of the bone (ie close to where it meets the pinky finger. Here’s a crude representation (not my hand obviously):
The bone kind of cleaved off at a 45-degree angle. Just a tiny break on the pinky finger bone in my hand, right? But since the break was diagonal instead of horizontal (I don’t know any proper medical terminology here), I was unable to get a cast and had to get surgery. Now I have a metal plate and several pins in my hand.
Hope everything turns out okay for you! Surgery would suck but it’s not the end of the world. After physical therapy, I’ve regained 99% range of motion in that hand. The only thing that reminds me of the break is the ugly scar on the back of my hand.
Could someone please explain
Why SC is an Orioles fan? He roots for all the other teams in the Michigan area except for the Tigers.
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 12, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions
Because Mickey Tettleton was fucking awesome.
There are archives, search them.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
speaking of tettleton...
his son, tyler, is a freshman, backup QB at Ohio U.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
It happens
I root for all NJ teams and the O’s. Maybe we all just jumped on the bandwagon reeeeally early.
so jump on up!
….and lets roll…..reallll slow!
by twistedlogic on Nov 12, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
get down from there!!!!!
why dont you like FUN?
by twistedlogic on Nov 13, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
He is definitely NOT a Red Wings fan
Trust me on this.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
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