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PrintSherrill Trade Looks Even Better for O's
Analysis on Josh Bell, Steve Johnson, and plenty of good vibes about the O's future. -Stacey
U.S. and Cuba look to bridge gap through baseball
Peter Angelos tells the Associated Press that he hopes to take the team to Cuba next year for an exhibition. Because moving to a new Spring Training home isn't enough of a distraction from routine. -duck
Uggla doesn't want to change positions
While everyone seems to be buying Dan Uggla plane tickets to Baltimore and a third baseman's glove, Uggla's agent says his client will resist any move away from second base. -duck
GM Dombrowski says Tigers won't pursue Aubrey Huff
Shocker. -Stacey
Ken Griffey, Jr. Has Spent Four Decades With Mariners (Sort Of) - SB Nation
Now that The Kid has resigned with the Mariners, he will have played with the team in four different decades. He turns 40 in a few days. Seems a long time since he played in the M's outfield with his dad back in the late 1980s. -duck
The worst football game ever? - Joe Posnanski
"There are, officially, six rivalries in the NFL." And he doesn't list Ravens-Steelers as one of them. Yet another reasons why I think Pos is more hack than talent. What do you guys see in his writing that I'm missing? -duck
Excuse me, duck, Joe Posnanski is NOT a hack, and saying so is pretty much a bannable offense. First of all, he says in the article that he's not including modern rivalries. Considering the Ravens have existed since 1996, that seem to fit the bill. Second of all, what I see in his writing is his brilliance. For examples, see: here, here, and here. And those are just a few of many. -Stacey
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Dude's a hack
I stand by my assessment.
And I knew I’d get your attention with that. ;)
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 14, 2009 7:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
And another thing....
He doesn’t list Redskins-Cowboys. That’s a rivalry. He’s a hack.
And the Disco Hayes article? A moderately talented college junior could gave written that. Hardest part of that is getting the guy on the phone. The story writes itself.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 14, 2009 7:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, once it wasn't in teh top three...
OK, my bad. I should have read the article more clearly. Once he listed Browns-Steelers, I was laughing too hard to focus. When was that last a rivalry? 1993 or so?
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
Oh snap
Now Johnny Pops is gonna start talking about how Stacey is repressing your right to say what you want….
:-p
by NewYorkOriole on Nov 14, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
New rule at Camden Chat!
1) No racism
2) No sexism
3) No homophobia
4) No calling Joe Posnanski a hack.
ALL BANNABLE OFFENSES!
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
I still say
Rule #4 needs to be “Don’t piss off the mods.” Just like Bloody Elbow does.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
If rule #4 was don't piss off the mods
You’d be banned because you pissed me off. So there!
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
duck, you're killing me
read this – http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/06/16/the-meaning-of-tiger/
posnanski is a genius.
yes! a good one
Honestly just subscribe to his blog’s RSS and learn to love, duck.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
I was unimpressed by your last link to him
and I am unimpressed by this rivalry story. And as I said, the Disco Hayes story wrote itself. I could have done as good a job, and did, back when I wrote for a living. I remain unimpressed.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
I'm sorry to have to say this dude, because I like you
but if you were as good as Joe Poz. you’d STILL be writing for a living. Remember that his blog is just something he does in his spare time. Twice he’s been named best sports columnist in the country by the AP Sports Editors, the Casey Award for Soul of Baseball (which is one of my top 5 baseball books, easy), and numerous other awards. If awards don’t impress you, well fine, but Posnanski is probably easily the best sports columnist out there today. He easily buries all the real hacks, like Plaschke, Mariotti, Reilly, Simmons, etc. No contest.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Nov 14, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
I will agree with your list of hacks at the end
And my reasons for getting out of journalism were twofold:
1) The pay sucked.
2) I didn’t want to move to where the pay didn’t suck.
Maybe it’s just the small sample size of his work I’ve read, but there have been at least 3 times in 3 articles I’ve stopped and thought, “He doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.”
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
No question that pay sucks in journalism
Try poetry. I’ve published poetry in some pretty big journals. I’ve made like $30 on it. Maybe.
At any rate, I’m really not trying to be a dick, I just can’t imagine someone thinking Joe Poz is a hack. Here’s the thing; I do not always agree with his conclusions. In fact, I often disagree. But many times I feel, regardless of whether the conclusion is good, I enjoy finding out how he got there. See also: Ebert, Roger.
Soul of Baseball is worth your time, if you have it. It is truly a great book.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Nov 14, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yes to Soul of Baseball!
I bought The Machine a few weeks ago but haven’t cracked it open yet. I want to wait until I have a good chunk of time to dedicate to it.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Re: The Machine
I gotta tell ya, it was a little disappointing. I mean it wasn’t bad, I don’t regret reading it or anything. But nowhere near the level of Soul of Baseball. Just not even close, sadly.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Nov 15, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
The Tom Watson story?
Duck, I’m beginning to wonder if you have a soul.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
I'm sitting in church right now. ;)
I’m not impressed with most feature writers like Rick Reilly. 90% of those stories are finding the topic.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
duck, you’re killing me
read this – http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/06/16/the-meaning-of-tiger/
posnanski is a genius.
I read this column and let me first say that I like Joe Po’s baseball column. I’m ga ga like Rob Neyer, but I do like Joe Po quite a bit. That said, that column about Tiger is stupid.
I’m fascinated by him because I cannot figure him out. I have no idea what drives him, what inspires him, what makes him laugh (other than a misplayed chip bouncing into the hole).
This isn’t rocket science Joe. Anybody who remotely follow Tiger know that the answer is simple. Winning, the thrill of competition, that what drives and inspires him. The rest of column is eloquent waxing about trivial insights with some nice anecdotes throw in.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I mean that I'm NOT ga ga like Neyer.
Neyer seems to fellate Joe Po whenever he gets a chance.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
i guess i'm not really sure what you're looking for in a writer then
are you happier when it’s only facts and all style is removed? i don’t know, i appreciate a writer’s ability to communicate thoughts using word choices that i never would have made. i think that’s a strength, not a weakness of the post, even if you just think it’s “eloquent waxing.” you really think this isn’t a more interesting way to describe someone who you dismiss as simplistic in purpose:
“Some say there’s nothing else to know, that he is what you see, a machine, a force of nature, a golfing prodigy grown into a golfing virtuoso, a computer that calculates only wind and grain and yardage and spin. Bob Costas, in a striking moment during Sunday’s final day, held up a copy of Tiger Woods’ book, "How I Play Golf" and suggested that as a companion, people could read Ludwin Van Beethoven’s "How I Compose Symphonies" — the idea being that Tiger’s genius is innate and mysterious and unknowable.”
i also think you’re making an assumption about tiger woods that you obviously don’t know is true. you don’t know that winning and the thrill of competition is what drives him. i bet most people would have said the same thing about andre agassi two months ago. instead, we’re hearing some far different things about his motivation in the last few weeks. i see nothing wrong with exploring the topic. even if it’s just the thrill of competition and winning that drives tiger woods, the degree to which he is driven and has been successful makes his story an uncommon one, even if the motivation isn’t unique at its core.
i guess i’m not really sure what you’re looking for in a writer then
To learn something.
are you happier when it’s only facts and all style is removed?
If it’s short, yes. Efficiency is good.
i don’t know, i appreciate a writer’s ability to communicate thoughts using word choices that i never would have made. i think that’s a strength, not a weakness of the post, even if you just think it’s "eloquent waxing."
That I appreciate. But that itself does not make an insightful or interesting column. That quote you copied and pasted is great. it really is in terms of eloquence. But its substance is completely inane.
i also think you’re making an assumption about tiger woods that you obviously don’t know is true.
It’s readily obvious from his interviews. Since I played a ton of competitive golf as a teenager, I’ve been following Tiger’s career since he was about 13 (we’re about the same age). Tiger is actually a relatively uncomplex person. He’s a goody goody due to his very close upbringing with his family. And he’s insanely talented at golf. But Tiger is an uncommon story due to his success. He’ll eventually break Nicklaus’ record for major championship wins and go down as the greatest golfer ever. But just because a columnist decides to “exlpore” this “topic” as you say, doesn’t make it a compelling column.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
And let me just say again, Joe Po is the da man. His baseball stuff rocks. He’s saber orientated w/o being overly dogmatic. His columns on why Jim Rice shouldn’t be in the HoF were great. I just didn’t dig this one particular column.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
The two critical things about the Cuba trip should be obvious to anyone with a genuine interest in the Orioles future:
1. Sign any male between 15 and 24 with his own glove and no obvious physical deformities. I mean, they’re lifelong commies, the poor bastards, they’ll think 300 bucks is a huge bonus. Take ’em all, let Bluefield sort ’em out later.
1a. But don’t let any closet Arubans onto the boat.
2. When making return arrangements, make none for Peter Angelos." Correct. Look, you can tell him “They’re gonna need a real leader here when Fidel dies, sir” for all I care. Just find a way to keep him off the plane. Millions will thank you!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
NCAAF revisited: the SC spread is down again (to 10.5-11.5 from a quick look around), so take that 13/Stanford if you can for big rubles
Oh, and for Monday referrals, my U.S. representation is the firm of Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, Cayman Islands and Grand Bahama
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
And at the behest of my attorneys, a final legal note: What's the difference between a lawyer and a chicken?
A chicken clucks defiance.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Holy crap! 55-21?!?
Welp, you sure can’t say it was a bad tip. Nobody has seen a Pete Carroll team take two hits like this since, um, ever. Yeah, I’m a Snodfart believer, and Gerhart for Heisman is starting to look pretty reasonable (no line yet). Guy has been running heavily downhill against highly-rated athletes/ well-coached defenses. Whoa!
Meanwhile, Cal did its job, as advertised, though Wazoo decided in a team mtg that while it wasn’t (and isn’t) in the business of winning f’ball games, at least it could lie down and play extremely dead — at home — to keep yrs truly form another sweep. Thx fellas. Hope that was your smallest stake (it was mine, though not by that much).
Still, some nice rubles in a tough week. Easier calls next Saturday— mortgage the dacha for your Cal bet, and look for a good number on OU at ’Zona. Do I have to have a 3rd?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Uggla
I’m hoping teams are advanced enough in their defensive analyses that they do not offer Uggla gig at 2nd. He’d be a relatively inexpensive fill in till Bell arrives. But, I still would prefer Beltre. After a down year, I’m guessing that he will be looking for a short term deal to re-establish his value. His glove would give the O’s a kick ass infield defense behind the emerging pitchers. It sounds like MacPhail is looking for a bigger bat than Beltre’s, though. From what he has said,my thought is that, at this juncture, he’s alright with sacrificing a bit of defense for a better bat.
If we bring Uggla
to Baltimore and force a position change, I could see this situation turning sour quickly ala Ryan Freel.
I think Freel was more upset that he wasn't playing.
Rather than what position he played. Uggla would be the starting 3B & would also see time at DH. I doubt he’d try to argue he should be playing 2B over BrianBob.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Uggla would no doubt
quickly learn of Josh Bell and our potential plans for him. Once Bell is promoted, Uggla’s playing time gets cut (depending of course on other roster moves and who is available to DH).
I just don’t think we need him. Wigginton playing third for a few months is not going to make or break our 2010 campaign.
Nothing would happen to Uggla's playing time.
Dude hits 30 HRs and 90 RBI every year, he would be traded or he would DH. He’s not going to sit on anybody’s bench.
Agreed
Would prefer a free Beltre (2/20) versus giving up prospects for the Marlins. Beltre has plus defense and the cavernous Safeco tell me his numbers should have a healthy uptick at the fairly neutral Camden Yards.
Librarians are hiding something
The picture quality for ESPN360 is crap.
Sadly, it’s the only way I can watch the embarrassment that is Terps football.
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 14, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions
It's all they deserve this year
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
So I follow Adam Jones on Twitter
After he won the GG someone said to him, “Congrats on the Gold Glove. Bmore is proud of you.” and he wrote back to the person, “I’m proud of Bmore.” It is not an exaggeration when I say that everything that kid says makes me happy.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
He seems to get it.
It being the special relationship that can exist between this city & it’s athletes a la Ripken, Robinson, Unitas, Lewis…
Awesome.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
I really hope....
That he doesn’t mature into a power-hitting speed demon superstar – and the Yankees then sign him….
by NewYorkOriole on Nov 14, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
no talk of Adam being a Yankee!
NONE EVER. Adam is an Oriole.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Especially when we drop a deal on him
after next season that makes Nick Markakis’ look like he’s a back-up catcher.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
i hope not
that would be vastly overpaying him….
by twistedlogic on Nov 14, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Va Tech's uniforms are UGHLEE
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 14, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Speaking of ugly uniforms...
I know they’re honoring the veterans and all, but Maryland’s wearing some pretty bad ones themselves
"I consider myself a Second Baseman" is not what I would like to hear.
Uggla would “resist” any position change from 2B? That is ridiculous. Why not just be happy someone actually wants you to play for them, unlike your current team? He;s really bad at Second, period. If he would be that distressed about moving to 3B or anywhere else, he’ll probably suck there, too.
If we can get him for something less than like, top 12-ish prospects, Sure, lets go for it. He hits 30 HRs a year, and he would probably benefit from being at Camden Yards. But if we get him and he is not in tune with reality, He’ll be gone by the trade deadline.
"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09
I agree completely with Stacey.
Joe Posnanski is NOT a hack. He’s a genius.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
For my next trick
I’ll explain why kittens are actually ugly and why “It’s A Wonderful Life” is actually a meditation on the basic inequality of capitalism. That ought to go over about as well.
BTW, the 2nd one is true.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
Totally agree on #2
I mean Mr. Potter appears to just have been a shrewd businessman who made good deals. George BAILey essentially gives a BAILout to the residents of the town, who agree to a “to each according to their needs” system. Totally pro-Socialist propaganda.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Nov 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
At least we agree on something
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 14, 2009 11:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And at the end...
the townspeople act against their own economic self-interest to bail out George. Adam Smith woud not be pleased.
And Pottersville is simply an exampe of the unequal distribution of wealth, as Potter uses his capital to oppress others. Frank Capra was a Marxist, I’m telling ya.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 15, 2009 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
My real problem is
with Uncle Drunk leaving the money behind.
If your own irresponsibility causes your own problems – no bailout for you!
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
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