Three 2009 Orioles have decided to refuse an outright assignment to Triple-A Norfolk and have elected to file for free agency. Pitcher Rich Hill, outfielder Jeff Fiorentino and catcher Guillermo Rodriguez have filed their paperwork with Major League Baseball and have informed the Orioles that they will become free agents.
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Because Rich Hill has better things to do?
Sorry Fiorentino couldn’t amount to anything. I liked Screech. He had a good series against the White Sox back when he got his first cuppa coffee.
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by OEutaw on Nov 3, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bye Rich Hill
Here’s hoping you find success elsewhere.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
by Stacey on Nov 3, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good call rich hill
the blue jays will be announcing three new FA signings in a few days…..
by twistedlogic on Nov 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Screech will be missed
He actually played pretty well down the stretch as a fill-in.
Rich Hill will not be missed. When healthy again, he will get a chance somewhere.
by fuddnelson on Nov 3, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOO
DON’T LEAVE US SCREECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sarcasim)
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 3, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dictionary.com is your friend
Sarcasm. Just one of the many services I offer.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 3, 2009 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's awesome
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 3, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine doesn't.
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 3, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember if its just a Mac thing, or a Firefox thing.
but its definitely not universal.
by kba26 on Nov 3, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why anyone would use IE over Firefox.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
by Stacey on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
even if i had a pc, i still wouldnt use it
but to be fair, IE8 has come a long way
by kba26 on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just tried to load this page in IE6
It works, but it’s really, really ugly. And IE8 is still light years behind everyone else.
by PhilR8 on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's just me
But FF is hideously slow – it takes 3-4 minutes just to load my home page. And that’s after I disabled all add-ons except NoScript.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 4, 2009 6:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
just you
or at least, not me, and that’s all I care about :)
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
by Stacey on Nov 4, 2009 6:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Capitalism works best
when we all operate in our own self-interest. :)
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 4, 2009 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rand, si - Marx no.
That is all.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Nov 4, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's slow for me, but I blame Vista
Once it’s open, it runs nicely. Personally, I’m really liking Chrome. It loads quick even with my horrible OS and it runs every bit as fast, if not faster than, FF.
by uneasy rider on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Chrome until the 2.0 upgrade
now it crashes 2-4 times a day for me.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
by duck on Nov 4, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I tried with FF, I really did
but the huge memory leaks just got to be too much, and IE8 seems to have controlled that while coopting many of the features of the “better” browsers, like FF and Opera. So, back to the dark side I go.
by fishoutawata on Nov 4, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least we still have Alfredo Simon
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
by CoachOfEarl on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Later Hill
Somehow 97% of the games attended had you (or Adam Eaton) starting this year. I am happy that is no longer possible.
by daveh873 on Nov 3, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mathematically speaking
I’m pretty sure it never was
by Stanicek on Nov 3, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I haven’t been on in ages. Hello to you all.
Rich Hill, I’ll miss you so much.
Not. Adios, hombre.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Nov 3, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hello to you!
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
by Stacey on Nov 4, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This
is all good news.
The owner of...... www.birdswatcher.com
by Michael18 on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hill
The truly annoying part is that Hill is a good pitcher. A very good pitcher. It seems as though his injury may have ruined his possibly bright career.
Hard to deny that his first year with the Cubs was great.
by Dr Orpheus on Nov 4, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm. No.
His first year witht he cubs was a fluke.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 4, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Logic disagrees with you
In a game like baseball flukes don’t have an ERA of 3.92 with 183 SO while allowing 63 BBs in 195 IP. Not to mention his minor league numbers, which suggest he would be a solid #2 starter.
The walks have always been high, no question.
by Dr Orpheus on Nov 4, 2009 5:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was not a fluke....he actually was a decent pitcher
then he chatted with mark prior. since then he had all sorts of back issues and reverted back to some awful mechanics. exceptionally wild ever since.
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
He was always exceptionally wild, so why wouldn’t you think the one year where he randomly put it together was the fluke? Why isn’t it more likely that his mechanics are just awful and that year they randomly clicked? Isn’t the definition of a fluke, one random period of success?
by O'sFan21 on Nov 4, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
M-W.com: fluke:
1 : an accidentally successful stroke at billiards or pool
2 : a stroke of luck
183 SO versus 63BB isn’t a stroke of luck. That’s just plain good performance. And his BABIP was right in line with what you would expect (.280). So he was definitely wasn’t lucky or unlucky go with the traditional definition of fluke. Random is better… but Hill has been consistent in his inconsistency. Some years, he just manages to keep his control in check and he strikes out tons of people. Other years, his control fades and he stinks. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hill has a terrific 2010 because that seems to fit his past behavior.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 4, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok...
So I guess we’re talking about word choice (again). Random might be a better word choice than fluke. I wasn’t implying that it was luck that got him that season – just that something randomly clicked and that there was no indication that it was ever going to happen again. Apparently I just didn’t know the definition of fluke since I said it was a random occurance of success.
I would be VERY surprised if he Hill has a terrific 2010. His stuff is just plain not very good. I think his one good season was a result of the league being awed by his curveball and by him randomly being able to throw strikes for once. His other pitches are AWFUL and if you lay off his curveball (which everybody did after that) he’s really just not a very good pitcher.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 4, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t like describing his 2007 as a fluke because it suggests no ability. It, as the definition of the word suggests, chalks up his 2007 to luck. I wanted to give Rich Hill more credit than that. That’s all.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 4, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Three straight seasons, in the minors leading up to the majors, suggests late-bloomer growth and progress. His terrible 08-09 campaigns seems like an issue, as the mlbtraderumor post suggests, a lack of adjustment/injury instead of any inability to pitch.
by Dr Orpheus on Nov 4, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still see
A guy who carved up the minors (some of the time) because of a nasty out-pitch, which is really not unheard of at all (guys with strange stuff can dominate the minors indefinitely without ever being good at the majors), and was able to carry it over to the majors for one season before it fell apart.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 4, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well yeah, i think that’s what everybody sees… what you said doesn’t contradict what dr. orpheus says. whether he can it around should be interesting. given his erratic nature, it wouldn’t surprise me especially if injuries have been holding him back.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 4, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know man.
He said the annoying thing is that Hill is a good pitcher – I don’t see that at all. I see a really erratic pitcher who had one good year. I definitely don’t see a good pitcher. A good pitcher has at least decent stuff and can throw strikes.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 4, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He said the annoying thing is that Hill is a good pitcher – I don’t see that at all.
Actually, I think what dr. o and myself are saying is something slightly different. I don’t think anybody would say Hill is a good pitcher. He’s sucked the past two years. Anybody who tells you otherwise is crazy. But what I would say is that Hill showed the potential to be a good number 2 starter based on his development. As you said, he carved up the minors (some of the time) and then posted a very strong ML season during his first full season. At that time, all of the available suggested a guy who would be a good, but erratic, starting pitcher. As John Sickels said at the end of 2007,
But Hill had a great year in 2006, solidifying his progress and posting a 135/21 K/BB in 100 innings in Triple-A, then a 90/39 K/BB and 4.17 ERA in 99 innings in the majors. This year he went 11-8, 3.92 (ERA+ 116) with a 183/63 K/BB in 195 innings. Now 27, Hill likely has several strong seasons ahead of him provided his command stays where it is now.
So yeah, Rich Hill has sucked. But he showed legit promise earlier and his 2007 season wasn’t some lucky year. Maybe he’ll turn thing around, maybe he won’t.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 4, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here are his exact words
The truly annoying part is that Hill is a good pitcher. A very good pitcher.
So…you might be saying something different, but that’s what I took from Dr. O since he said it.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 4, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
If I could rephrase: I think Rich Hill had the potential to be a good pitcher and demonstrated that potential in his 2007 season. In 2007, Hill was a good pitcher. Since then, however, he has been inept at throwing in the strike zone or showing any kind of control.
I still think the potential is there…somewhere.
by Dr Orpheus on Nov 5, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too damn it.
I see the potential. And I think he’ll put up a few good seasons in a 9 to 10 year career. But he’ll always be erratic.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 5, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ive played that game before
with a Mr. Daniel Cabrera. It was no fun. There were no winners. I do not want to play again.
by daveh873 on Nov 5, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think DC will put up one decent season among a bunch of crappy seasons before he retires.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 5, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I missed Dr. O's first comment.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 5, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I definitely have no beef with the fact that he HAD great season.
I just don’t think he’s CURRENTLY any good.
by O'sFan21 on Nov 5, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, only a crazy person would say that Hill is currently a good pitcher. Dr. O backed off of his original statement.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Nov 5, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rich Hill (edited for content)
can seriously eat a jar of mayo and lick a corn dog until the breading dissipates in his little mouth then vomit it back up and feel like crap for the rest of the day.
There, I said it.
by sickuvitall on Nov 4, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tell us how you really feel.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Nov 4, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, MLBTR relays that the Os want to re-sign him.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Nov 4, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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