Wednesday Bird Droppings
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 7:00 AM EST
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Orioles interested in Matt Capps after all
"The Orioles have expressed interest in free-agent closer Matt Capps, who was non-tendered by the Pirates over the weekend. Agent Paul Kinzer expects to talk to president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail later (Tuesday) or today." -duck
Roch throws names against a MASN wall
"Buck Martinez's departure from MASN has left an empty seat in the broadcast booth for about half the games on the Orioles' 2010 schedule, and the network could choose to go in a few directions." I really just included this link so the millions, uh, thousands, OK, hundreds of CC readers will go and beg for John Lowenstein to come back. Because that would be awesome. -duck
Zrebiec: Koji and friend?
"The Orioles met with the agents of Japanese pitcher Hisanori Takahashi at last week’s winter meetings, but it’s too early to tell how serious their interest is." Takahasi is good friends with Koji Uehara. And he's left-handed. -duck
Stockstill takes stock of Chapman
"John Stockstill, the Orioles' director of international scouting, is flying back flew to Baltimore tonight last night after watching Aroldis Chapman's bullpen session earlier today Tuesday in Houston and also meeting with the Cuban left-hander's representatives." Stockstill estimated that Chapman threw 75 pitches, with representatives for 20-25 clubs in attendance. -duck
White Sox get Pierre from Dodgers
"The Chicago White Sox have acquired outfielder Juan Pierre and cash from the Los Angeles Dodgers for two players to be named." And the earth shook at the importance of such a move... -duck
Selig's new committee has Maryland flavor -- baltimoresun.com
"Baseball commissioner Bud Selig on Tuesday announced the establishment of a new committee to examine on-field issues such as video replay reviews and pace of game. The group will consist of several well-respected baseball men, including Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail, Orioles Hall of Fame outfielder Frank Robinson and native Marylanders, Mark Shapiro, the Cleveland Indians' general manager, and Atlanta Braves president John Schuerholz." -duck
Chapman's former agent sues his new reps
"Even before he has a contract to play in the major leagues, Cuban defector Aroldis Chapman is in the middle of a lawsuit." So, he's being introduced to American culture rather quickly, I see. -duck
New targets flying low on O's radar, for now -
"President of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said his front office has contacted the representatives of several players who were not tendered contracts by their previous clubs at Saturday's deadline. That group includes corner infielders Garrett Atkins, Ryan Garko and Mike Jacobs and closers Matt Capps and Mike MacDougal." None of those names exactly send my heart aflutter. -duck
Japanese Female Phenom Knuckleball Pitcher Eri Yoshida Joins Arizona Winter League - OurSports Central - Independent and Minor League Sports News
Yoshida, 17, made headlines and impressed the baseball world last summer when she became the first female to play professionally in Japan. Equipped with a sidearm knuckleball that is considered almost unhittable when she is on, she debuted for the Kobe Cruise 9 of the Kansai League in Japan on opening day as she walked one and struck out one in front of 12,000 fans. She began playing baseball in the 2nd grade and credits Tim Wakefield as the inspiration for her 50 mph knuckleball delivered from her 5 foot 1 inch, 114 lb frame. -zk
Heralded Chapman works out for MLB scouts | orioles.com: News
[Chapman] threw a bullpen session in the morning for about 50 Major League scouts, impressing them with his size and velocity....."The kid's got a great arm," Houston Astros general manager Ed Wade said of the 6-foot-4 Chapman. "He's a physical specimen. He's left-handed. He throws hard. Obviously, anybody would be interested in an arm like this. He's got some great stuff. The early feedback from our guys, and everybody else, is he's a tremendous talent."...."He's a hard thrower from the left side," said David Lakey, national cross checker for the New York Mets. "I think they said [he hit 96 mph]. That kind of arm is hard to find from the left side." -zk
AND IN OTHER NEWS
Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax To Tour Together | Billboard.com
"Heavy metal's Big Four -- Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax -- will ride together in 2010. In Europe, at least." So, I gotta get a passport, mortgage the house, buy plane tickets, and find a ticket scalper. At least I have a few months. -duck
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Today's idiotic Baltimore Sun headline
“Kevin Cowherd: Orioles’ Millwood deal isn’t enough”
No shit, Sherlock. I can’t believe that this paper allows so much valuable space to be taken up by inane columns from the wonder twins, Messrs. Cowherd and Schmuck. No wonder the medium is dying.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on Dec 16, 2009 7:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Good point. Millwood is here.. the Yanks and BoSox might as well just shut it down NOW.
Haha.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowherd is just despicable
He’s the dirt on the bottom of the shoe of sports media. He’s like a boring, even more obnoxious version of Jim Rome (who I can’t stand either).
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 16, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Cowherd writes for the Sun
Colin Cowherd is the dirt on the bottom of the shoe of sports media. Colin hosts “The Herd” on ESPNRadio and some stupid afternoon show on ESPN; Kevin is a hack writer for the Sun. I’ve gotten them confused myself.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Duh.
My bad. It’s Colin who is the object of my burning hatred. Kevin I don’t know, though the article sounds pretty stupid.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 16, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, laughing out loud at the White Sox
Kenny Williams is a real piece of work. If you’re feeling antsy about MacPhail’s deliberate pace, take a look at the moves that the ChiSox have made:
Signed Mark Kotsay, Omar Vizquel, Andruw Jones, JJ Putz.
Traded for Mark Teahen and Juan Pierre.
The thing that makes me ill is that they’ll still be contenders in that watered-down AL Central.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on Dec 16, 2009 7:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's the biggest bummer to me
Put us in the AL Central or the NL West and we’re almost legit contenders.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
O’s Record vs. AL Central by Year Since the Losing Streak Began
2009: 17-18
2008: 20-18
2007: 16-19
2006: 17-17
(The 2006 ALCS Champion Detroit Tigers finished 16-17 against the A.L. East.)
2005 13-22
2004 21-15
2003 14-18
2002 18-14
2001 16-16
2000 24-24
1999 27-22
1998 29-25
by Roarfrom34 on Dec 16, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not complete nonsense
The O’s wouldn’t win the Central necessarily, but they certainly wouldn’t have 12 straight losing seasons like they do now, along with the associated negative perception that currently weighs down the franchise. They may not be legit contenders, but they would be perceived contenders which means more fans in the stands, less difficulty attracting free agents, etc.
Plus, we wouldn’t have to deal with Yankees and Red Sox fans invading Camden Yards several times each year. And that alone would make life in Baltimore more enjoyable each summer.
by Roarfrom34 on Dec 16, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't mean the info was nonsense
I meant the fact that we’re so competitive against them and yet a laughingstock in our own division is nonsense. It’s just not right that if you put any of those teams in the AL East and THEY’D be the laughingstock, not us.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PS
something I reveled in/was pissed off about during the playoffs
The Twins 2009:
AL Central
White Sox 12-6
Indians 10-8
Tigers 12-7
Royals 12-6
Total: 46-27 (.630)
NL
Cubs 2-1
Astros 1-2
Brewers 5-1
Pirates 2-1
Cardinals 2-1
Total: 12-6 (.667)
Yankees 0-7
Red Sox 2-4
Orioles 2-3
Blue Jays 3-5
Rays 3-3
Angels 4-6
Mariners 5-5
Athletics 4-6
Rangers 6-4
Total: 29-43 (.403)
Your AL Central champions, ladies and gentlemen! Of course, they were who we all thought they were once they got to the playoffs. But still, they got there.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I’d gladly take on the role of pretend contenders. At least I’d have a “Baltimore Orioles – AL Central Champions” T-shirt to show for it. It’s a sad state of affairs.
by Roarfrom34 on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I go back and forth
On one hand, I’d also love the role of pretend contenders. On the other hand, I love that if/when the Orioles do get to the top, no one will be able to have this discussion about them. Whenever people seriously talk about realignment I get my feathers ruffled because I don’t just want to be at the top of the division, I want to be better than the Yankees and the Red Sox because they’re the best teams.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather be in a good division than a bad one
But I would like to alleviate this sort of thing:
Split W L RS RA WP
BOS 2 16 68 130 .111
NYY 5 13 81 120 .278
TBR 8 10 82 88 .444
TOR 9 9 88 88 .500
Kevin Millwood, Matt Capps and/or Garrett Atkins aren’t going to fix this.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
word
but hopefully the continued improvement of our youngsters will help ease the pain
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited about the youth movement
But we need a big corner bat to help them out. They can’t do it on their own. I’m not excited about playing scrubs until we figure out if/when Snyder and Bell are going to be ready. I was told there would be bats purchased.
I’m not completely knocking Millwood, btw, and I’m not saying we should have signed Lackey, because pitching is our development strength.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's not
like there are any really, truly outstanding bats out there right now. There’s no Prince Fielder, no Adrian Gonzalez, there’s no cleanup hitters at all. You can’t buy what isn’t for sale.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
but that doesn’t mean we should expect the bottom of the barrel. Maybe I’m just being impatient. But I think we could get AGonz without giving up too many pieces, rather than let the PHN have him.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
remember that some of it fixes itself
not all of those teams will be as good this year as they were last year
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually a slight improvement over 2008
O’s Wins vs AL East, by year:
2007: 34
2008: 22
2009: 24
Trading Bedard and Tejada really did us in, and hopefully Jones and Matusz and the rest of the kids will bring us back. But if Wiggy and Aubrey are our starters, no dice.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't want realignment
I just want a balanced schedule again.
the unbalanced schedule is the worst thing to happen to baseball in a loooong time.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the pierre deal
i really don’t see the differnce betweem dye and pierre excpet steals.
by chuckthefan on Dec 16, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I had some time at work and just read the entire Who’s Who at Camden Chat blog…
Im nervous, lol.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This just in:
For their first official act under their new titles, MacPhail and Robinson declare video review be instituted as of 1995. The first major change to history is the Jeffery Maier play.
The Orioles are happy to announce they have retroactively won 4 world series since then.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
So...
anyone getting anything good for Christmikwanzahanukahn?
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Xbox 360, baby
Been annoying the wife for 2 years to get that gift….
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is that the best one tho?
or is the ps3 better?
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have more friends with Xbox
that I can borrow games from. :)
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PS3 has Blu-Ray built in
So there’s that.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone I know has an XBox
This one dude bought a PS3, but didn’t have anyone to play Call of Duty with, so he broke down and bought an XBox, too.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
theres that
i love call of duty
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
personally, I love my PS3
its the greatest thing Ive ever gotten in my life. I had an xbox 360 for 3 days and returned it.
Then again, I watch blu ray movies and was the first of my friends to get a new system, so they all have ps3’s as well. Also, I dont like having to pay extra money to play online, so theres that.
But yea, ya gotta get what your friends have or it’ll be lame.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dunno
Usually get the Opening Day 4-pack. Other than that, it’s a mystery.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did not.
You get a lunchbox and education.. That’s it.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got one of my gifts early
My gf got me a Kindle DX. I pretty much love it. Did you know that you can subscribe to Camden Chat on the Kindle? It costs $1.99 a month, you can only read “articles” (ie Open Threads do not show up), and you cannot view or make comments.
There’s a 14-day trial that I signed up for. I don’t think I’ll be re-subscribing, but I still think it’s kind of cool.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's neat
My brother has a kindle. I always thought I wouldn’t like it but when he came to visit this past summer he showed it to me and it really is awesome.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so these are some of Guts' cleats
I would wear them without hesitation.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
by getxstoked on Dec 16, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Request!
You know how every year someone says, “hey, does anyone know where the tankeray/whatever picture is?” One of my off season projects is going to be to compile all of our awesome images and put them on one page so that if anyone ever wants them it’ll be an easy find.
I’ve found several already: Tankeray, This guy looks like he works on a fuckin’ ship, and a few others. I’ll probably go through some game threads to see what others I can find. But if any of you created or saved any that you think would be a good fit, can you give them to me? You can post them in the open thread, or if you only have them on your computer you can email them to me.
Thanks!
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
didn't someone have a webpage that had all those pictures on it?
I think it was dayzd_toe but I’m not sure. I remember going to the site, though.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dayzd created a page once
I’m not sure if it was every pic, but I know that he has lost ton of stuff when he switched service providers.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Martinez's Replacement
Personally, I think its incumbent on the Orioles to find a non-white replacement for Martinez, to put it bluntly. Not doing so is bordering on socially irresponsible. The club plays in a majority African-American city and also in one of the most ethnically diverse regions of the United States, yet the on air talent is decidedly caucasian across the board.
Now, if we had a cadre of television talent with the skills of say former O’s play-by-play man Jon Miller, who all happened to be white, then perhaps the casting choices would be more acceptable. But we don’t.
They truly need to showcase some diversity on air.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Never thought much about that
but makes sense to me. Any thoughts on who could fill the role?
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying
go pry Ken Singleton away from the Yankees. That shit just makes too much sense.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of want Dave Johnson, who is white
Obama made America transcend race, so really, it shouldn’t matter which color he is.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure...
….if this intentionally or unintentionally funny.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
both i think
how about little richard?
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Works for me...
….Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Clash
Dunno if he’s still local, but I’d sure like to hear some O’s commentary coming from Elmo.
by drj on Dec 16, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on Dave Johnson though...
…he is very much a local guy.
I say fire somebody else they currently have on like, oh, I don’t know, anyone and bring on Johnson and a non-white guy. When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing to lose.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
word
or Palmer
or Dempsey
or Hunter
or Amber – that’s right. I said it.
Honestly, you cannot lose when you lose one of these clowns. How about getting someone who’s funny? Or entertaining? These broadcasts are as dry as the steak at Ponderosa.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
false
amber will not be fired. good day sir.
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
reply fail
that was meant as a reply to JP
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
even though I don’t care for her, she does seem to inspire some loyal fans – unlike any other broadcaster MASN employs. So with that alone she should be the last to go.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how can you not care for her?
as far as sideline reporting goes she’s not terrible and of course there’s the obvious…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree wholeheartedly.
Who started the whole Amber is incompetent thing!??! She does a fine job and is always cheery and friendly with the fans.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She sucks.
Her voice gives me a headache and she’s not hot. You guys just have low standards. I’ve been through this a million times on this blog over the years so that’s my piece on it. If you want to know more please use the search function. Thank you.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please share more your wisdom...
… on all things Amber. Could you tell me where I could find this search function!?! “Not hot” – and my comments are “ill thought-out”. LMAO – what a joke. I hate to say this, but Im farely sure I know that you are one of these “diverse” people in which you speak, which, I’d be fairly certain is part of what is driving your mudslinging at the current orioles staff. I actually like Rick Dempsey and Amber, and Buck didn’t bother me much either. And guess what, I like Adam Jones and Cesar Izturis too!!
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From the Who's Who....
“I’m Juanita
A saucy, hotblooded heartbreaker from South of the Border. I first fell in love with O’s when my ex-boyfriend, Rodrigo Lopez started pitching for the team.”
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats kinda funny
I mean I thought you were kidding. Really? You thought Jonny was Juanita?
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say this, but Im farely sure I know that you are one of these "diverse" people in which you speak, which, I’d be fairly certain is part of what is driving your mudslinging at the current orioles staff.
This comment says a lot more about you than about JP.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just frustrated.
My apologies if it came off more offensive than I intended. Just frustrates me everyone talks about having a “colorblind” world and then we get on the topic of firing who I believe is a competent WHITE girl (in Amber) and hire someone with more ‘color’. Sorry but that offends me slightly.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget HOT
competent and all that too…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
Ill post my pic with her and her competent glasses wearing self when I get home.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do find it kinda fucked up
when someone says something that amounts to “we need more people of color, so fire some white people”. I mean, if you dont care for them, whatever. But we are talking about someone’s livelyhood. I’m sure if you got fired because your company was trying to be more diverse, you’d be pissed.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriosuly, JP never said this.
everyone look above and reread.
suggesting someone’s replacement be of color and usggesting other people being fired because they suck are TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is "of color" what we're supposed to be saying these days??
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's all context and who you're talking to
I personally hate the term “of color” and find it mildly offensive. Like I don’t have any color? I’m not monochormatic.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just for you...
“piebald”
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not funny
Sorry, personal peeve. It’s why I have to take my son to Johns Hopkins vision clinic once a year and why he’ll never drive at night and never have depth perception and why his eyes move back and forth every moment he’s awake.
Sorry, personal crusade on my part.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pale
with a slight touch of pink
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies
The term was “non-white”.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that makes it sound like
the person is a lesser being b/c they are “non-white”
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they're all fraught terms
Ask someone what “person of color” means, and they’ll say, “not white”. So the term “person of color” itself preserves a notion that somehow “white” is superior.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look, heres the thing...
Im all about diversity. But Im all about give the best man for the job the job. Give the best man for the promotion the promotion. When you start saying “sorry, I cant give you the job, we are looking for a ‘non-white’”, thats offensive to me. Imagine if the situation where flipped and I said we are looking for a “non-black” or a “non-hispanic” regardless of what the rest of the office looked like… that would be offensive to that sect.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is disingenuous...
Again, look at the current staff. They are monochromatic – and many are also not very good at their jobs in my opinion. The status quo is a problem in my mind, particularly in a town that plays in a very ethnically diverse area. This is what needs to be addressed. Not the other way around. What you’re kicking and screaming about seems like defensiveness to me. We’d have a much healthier discussion if you could admit that the status quo in the on air staff is questionable at best. Could MASN really not find one single non-white person qualified for a job on air? Plenty of non-white people play and coach baseball. Again, I just see your argument as disingenuous.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm.
You’re really reading stuff into this that isn’t there.
JP never mentioned Amber’s race, nor said she should be fired for her race. He just said Amber sucks and should be fired.
He said Buck’s replacement (not firing someone) should be someone who better reflects the local population, which is a valid point, whether you agree or not.
To take those two statements and somehow connect them the way you did to this:
we get on the topic of firing who I believe is a competent WHITE girl (in Amber) and hire someone with more ‘color’
… suggests an agenda to me. Sorry if I’m reading you wrong.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Direct Quote
“I say fire somebody else they currently have on like, oh, I don’t know, anyone and bring on Johnson and a non-white guy.”
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is ONE sentence..
Not two separate thoughts.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
I think its fairly obvious to anyone that followed the conversation this was the idea.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, you fail.
There is an existing opening. JP suggested in a different place that the opening be filled with a person of color.
The other guys suck. JP suggested they should be fired because they suck.
Johnson is white and would be replacing a white guy. Someone else who is not white would be filling an open position.
Nowhere, NOWHERE does this equate to “fire a white guy and hire someone of color”. NOWHERE. Unless someone is looking for it and trying to twist it into that.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully...
Because you type “you fail” doesn’t necessarily lend your argument to a higher degree of logic.
Here is the sentence:
“"I say fire somebody else they currently have on like, oh, I don’t know, anyone and bring on Johnson and a non-white guy."”
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you typed that same sentence above
and I just refuted your logic.
you re-typing it doesn’t change anything.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
*respectfully.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You disagreeing...
…. isn’t synonymous with “refuting”.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew how you were going to argue that sentence but I think it can be read both ways. I read it like WW did the first time.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if you read it out of context, sure
but if you read what JP had said upthread, no way.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear www.context.com
Could you give me this context?
"All of you are certifiably insane…
…and have low standards in broadcasting. But hey, you’re O’s fans. So low standards are not a big surprise!"
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol.
no i couldn’t.
because there is no context for that remark apart from its face value.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And for the record
I believe I have the proper context along with at least a few others in this conversation who agreed.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's true though...
….and Z, I like you much better as an advocate than an adversary. :)
This is exactly what I was saying – and rather tongue in cheek at that. But I do feel that much of the staff should be fired because they suck and that the staff needs more diversity.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just don't tell them about our secret trysts, juanita.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
… this comment gets me going:
“All of you are certifiably insane…
…and have low standards in broadcasting. But hey, you’re O’s fans. So low standards are not a big surprise!”
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh calm down...
…you need to take life a little less seriously.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty sure...
those on this board I’ve met would say I need to take life a little more seriously.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I know about WW
is that he turns my upper deck ticket into lower box behind home plate by smooth talking the usher, and that makes him all right in my book.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And drinks 2 beers per inning.
HAHA
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And actually gets nicer as he gets drunker.
That’s a tough trick to pull off.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHHAA!!!
Was I mean SOBER?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, a tad bit intimidating
but it may have been more of I appreciated your brand of humor more as the night went on…
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I like that explanation better. I liked you from the get-go for what it’s worth!
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta admit
the Blackwater shirt was a negative to me, until you explained you wore it with the expressed purpose to piss people off. That I can appreciate. It’s like when I wear my Obama shirt to the gun range.
OK, I’ve never actually done that, but I fully intend to.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummm…I don’t think that’s such a great idea, duck.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Im in the military and my buddy was recruited by them and gave me the shirt. Im big pro-military so I dont have a big problem with the job they do in general. Of course there are rogue examples, but having been over there and knowing some of them I wouldnt say its like the movie “State of Play” portrays it. I wont wear it next time though. LOL
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AND I CHANGED!!!
Remember… into my fresh Koji shirt… haha
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Although you were tempted by the strip club shirt
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 16, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
You have a good memory! I forgot about those shirts.
Scores right?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember which one
You and Grove were the ones who actually talked to the strippers.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SHHHHHHHH!!!!
What happens @ Camden STAYS at Camden NARC! lol
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know your wife would be reading :)
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 16, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah strippers...
my favorite holiday charity.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing like
waking up christmas morning with a half swollen eye, the faint smell of cheap perfume, glitter all over your shirt, no elastic on your boxers, and a pounding headache.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just said
you got nicer as the night went on. :)
And I’m pro-military, too. I just don’t think hiring mercenaries who don’t have to follow the UMCJ is the way to support our military.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does
being pro-military have to do with being pro-blackwater?
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go...
Im in the military and was deployed with them as they work side by side with alot of our “boys” (soldiers). Im just saying I appreciated the work alot of them did as the vast majority of them are in fact ex-military just paid much better.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't there, but
Would this qualify as one of the rogue examples?
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This article is FAR from balanced.
I’ve seen firsthand alot of good things they did getting our marines out of some shit at times. In any case, I dont think Im going to sit here and argue this point the rest of my day. I know from my experience alot of the good that was done over there.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's good people..
…in all walks of life. I don’t think any of us would argue against that. I think the problem with Blackwater or what was Blackwater is systemic, not personal.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re:
…the vast majority of them are in fact ex-military just paid much better.
This is my main problem with them. The fact that they get paid 3, 4, 5 times as much as someone in the military who could and should be doing the same work.
That and the civilian massacre, and the payoffs etc. But they’re defunct now, technically, so I guess it’s water under the bridge.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He tends to stick around
on topics that spark his interest
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
canadiens? eh?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure a lot of them are ex-military.
I just don’t think that if you’re fond of the military you have to also be fond of soldiers of fortune.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s a great steve earle song
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At the risk of getting...
… 1000 Abu Gharib/civilian abuse type jokes.
I think they are the best at what they do. And I appreciate the excellence.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They sure are profitable!
and that’s really the most important thing…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would
be a tough business to operate if they didn’t turn a profit…i’m just guessing.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure thing!
But some of us probably don’t like the idea of war being a business in which profits are made.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think that's
just the reality. i think you’d probably feel a lot better about it if you just didn’t know that sort of thing ever happened.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So ignorance is the answer?
How about just only fighting wars that are a) essential, and b) that we are actually equiped to fight? Then blackwater would be doing other things.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for you
it might be. i’m not as upset about some of this as you are.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its rare examples that prove the rule.
Been over there almost 8 years and an average of 140,000 boots on the ground at any given time and you have a handful of examples. Keep watching MSNBC and you will think this is the common practice of what we who signed that blank check to this country are trained to do.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what this is in response to.
But I have the utmost respect for our military and fully support them everywhere they are. I don’t know where you got the impression that I didn’t.
What I’m not a fan of is sending them off to fight and die in unnecessary wars that we are so ill equiped for that we have to hire soldiers of fortune to assist us. Not to mention all the shadiness of our leaders at the time getting rich off their stock in said solider of fortune companies…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the answer
A fish rots from the head down. I read somewhere that FDR promised that there would be no war profiteers making millions off of WWII.
We got no such assurances from Emperor Cheney & his simian sidekick.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Dec 16, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where do you think we buy everything from?
You really think Boeing, Northrup and all these agencies aren’t making money left and right off of war?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please
There’s a gigantic enormous difference between building tools and actually using them.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
Many argue that a big reason we go to war is to continue to fund defense contractors.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“But some of us probably don’t like the idea of war being a business in which profits are made.”
This is all I was addressing on that point.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Tinfoil on my head" guy.
Today we salute you….
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re:
… 1000 Abu Gharib/civilian abuse type jokes.
The thing is, it’s not a joke. These types of abuse are what fuel insurgencies. They’re like recruiting PR stunts for terrorists – on top of the whole immorality issue. Add to that the fact that the entire world looks at us like we’re the modern day #1 violator of human rights when they hear this and you see how destructive this stuff can get.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thank, moral compass.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
that was mainly the pragmatic take.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PS - what do you care?
You ask that Marine in the foxhole getting his ass saved by a handful of blackwater boys if he gives a rats ass how much that guy gets paid. They are the very best at what they do. Most highly recruited ex-special force guys. That takes a certain degree of something inside you that may be prone to snap given what you’ve seen and been through. But sometimes that is whats necessary to get a difficult job done (Few Good Men speech, lol) Lets be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater because of some rogue examples.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's my tax money...
…for one thing. That’s what I care.
Secondly, I’d rather pay regular troops more and eliminate contractors’ outrageous salaries.
And spare me the Few Good Men stuff. I know the world is a rough place and these are rough situations. That’s why they need to be managed intelligently, which means not overpaying mercenaries and underpaying the military.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you should take
some comfort in knowing that they make so much more and your tax money is spread so thin that you really aren’t paying them at all. In fact, with the increasing deficits it seems like they are doing it on credit.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
I have alot more things to say that would breech the harrassment barriers in the rules section of this.
But lets send over 140,000 troops in the highest stress environment in the world and expect no stories to emerge of nutjobs doing nutty things. To ME, this is rogue stuff, NOT systemic. If you really think this is what our military and civilian counterparts are about at the core, than yeah, I have alot more to say to you.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re:
I have alot more things to say that would breech the harrassment barriers in the rules section of this.
Try to carry on a discussion without this bullshit. Seriously, it’s just immature. It would be helpful if you could carry on a discussion with your mind rather than gut emotions as you have in this and the racial stuff you were attempting to argue this morning.
There is no question abuses will always occur in war. Always. Overall I agree they are outliers, both with contractors and military personnel. But the systemic issue is when we send mercenaries who are not accountable to any authority to do our dirty work.
You in the military are accountable to the military justice system. Blackwater was not accountable to either the military nor civilian courts and if you cannot see the problem with that, then I have nothing more to say to you.
Basically, stressful environment or not, if someone goes ballistic and decides to smoke a group of civilians in the middle of Baghdad for no discernible reason, there need to be consequences. Blackwater was immune from consequences and while they might not have abused that regularly, the abuses they did carry out were enough to seriously jeopardize our affairs in Iraq and cause all sorts of trouble for this country.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like we have our next..
… Secretary of Defense all lined up.
Way to go guy.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly believe you have no clue what you are talking about.
So for the sake of other’s ears on this board, I will bow out of this discussion. Claim it as a victory if you would like.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that an argument?
Or just random insults? Seriously – have a discussion.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
97.43% of your posts are contentious and YOU are calling ME out for ‘random insults’ saying I dont think he knows at all what he is talking about. And I could probably punch out an 8,000 word paper on this in no time but Im sure thats not what most people on the board are here for so I said I would bow out of the discussion for their sake and that he could put a slash in his win column if it made him feel better. If you would like to carry this discussion on offline I would be happy to. That is if you have any interest in actually having a discussion rather than just being contentious, which I highly doubt.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're not following.
97.43% of my points may be contentious, but they are at least arguments. They are not me just insulting people.
If you don’t have time to discuss it that’s fine, but calling him the next secretary of defense and saying things like “Way to go, guy” is just stupid bullshit. Make an argument or don’t.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re:
I honestly believe you have no clue what you are talking about.
We’re all entitled to our beliefs, no matter how far fetched they are. Great thing about this country.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
this coming from the guy told us we’re all insane and should try to follow your ways of life as they’re better than ours.
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Im done… now Im not on company time anymore.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TL
I just put a piece of poop in your lunchbox. You ought to know better.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you want Ill send you a shirt too...
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
How come I didn’t get offered a shirt?
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cuz you'll wear it to a Cindy Sheehan rally...
haha
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't rule it out...
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Her voice gives me a headache and she’s not hot. You guys just have low standards.
Care to post pics of your ex-girlfriends/current girlfriend?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She already said:
Her ex is Rodrigo Lopez… shes ‘Juanita’ and self-described saucey number from South of the Border.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've dated better...
…and I’ve dated worse looking women than Amber. But that’s not really my point.
My point is, IMO, she is not the bombshell many people on here make her out to be. I don’t want to trash her too hard, because she doesn’t deserve it. Nobody does. But I think a lot of the OOoooooohing and Ahhhhhhing over her is misplaced. If she was Erin Andrews you guys might have a point. But she’s not…not in my opinion at least.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amber very successfully pulls off the
sideline-reporter-next-door look, and I like that. That may not be one of your kinks, but that doesn’t make her less desirable to others.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a sideline-reporter-next-door
fetish. LOL
This is awesome.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm unclear
why that is one of your kinks. But hey, to each his own.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you have to be clear about other people's interests?
Everyone is different, and there’s no need to “other” people by insinuating their tastes are somehow less valid than yours.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point is, IMO, she is not the bombshell many people on here make her out to be.
Now that I agree with. But you said she’s not hot and we have “low standards”! If dating somehow who looks like her represents low standards, well, damn, who hell are you dating?!
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention that is a kinda rude comment
to anyone who is dating someone who looks like her
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, she’s plenty hot enough for me. she’s not anne hathaway hot, but plenty attractive enough for me. and certainly attractive enough for masn.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anne Hathaway hot?
Please tell me you’re kidding. This is what I’m saying about standards.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I call a vote!
Thumbs up or down on Anne Hathaway?!
Thumbs up for me.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like her
But I think that she’s one of those for whom still photos don’t often do her justice.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She's pretty
I wouldn’t call her “hot” and I wouldn’t drop my aw if I saw her, but thats some side boob.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I had...
…an extra set of hands.
So I could give her FOUR THUMBS DOWN!!!
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To keep it on sports...
….I’ll say Erin Andrews, Maria Sharapova and that college soccer chick from NM who was beating the shit of people in that clip last month.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That soccer chick was way hot
but totally in a girl-next-door sort of way. She was totally plain Jane! But fortunately, I really like plain Jane. Especially when she’s putting the hurt on somebody.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was the fiestiness
that put her over the top. Big time.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
she was not that hot
although iirc, some of the players around her were quite attractive
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we will agree to disagree
She sort of reminded me of Leelee Sobieski, who is someone I find really, really attractive.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG!
Sharapova has a weird smush face.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always had a thing for
Jenny Finch. But that’s partly because I just imagine the ridiculous baseball players we could produce…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jenny Finch
USA pitcher… I think thats her name.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who would you give two thumbs up?
Twins baby.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to grow more thumbs
so they could all point up.
I direct you to the opening 15 minutes of the movie “Havoc” if you have any questions.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JP
To each his own. That’s what makes the world go round. It’s not indicative of low standards to think Anne Hathaway is hot; it’s indicative of personal taste.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ever watch...
….the McLaughlin Group back in the day?
WRONG!!!!!!
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying
Anne Hathaway IS hot. That’s imperical fact.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mispelled "empirical"
misused the word “hot” in a sentence.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Alba myself
Along with a “MYRIAD” (hope I spelled that right and used it properly) of others!
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he's 50% right
I did have a misspelling.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll just blame it on the iphone
happens alllll the time.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
That does cause alot of errors.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anne Hathaway IS hot. That’s empirical fact.
that’s probably the society wide consensus. but i think all of us like to be contrarian at times. i take pride in my disgust for pam anderson while i think kelly clarkson is super hawt.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we actually supposed to think Pam Anderson is hot?
I always thought that was a joke since she’s such a cartoon character.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
most people think she's hot
You know who else isn’t all that hot? Elin Woods.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I have no problems with her
although after seeing what tommy did to her…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I LIKE HER ALL THE MORRRRE!!!!
Haha…. But I think Finch takes it as my #1 athlete chick ever.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PS
I hate the Steelers with all my heart, but I like Big Cheeseburger’s sister on the athlete scale as well.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey - as far as sideline reporters go
she’s not that bad. Look at the Nats’ woman, if you want to talk about awful. I don’t know about anywhere else, but it seems like a lot of teams don’t use sideline reporters (outside of national coverage, where it’s usually Ken Robothaul).
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the
broadcasts are that bad. Amber is ok but she doesn’t hold a candle to the COL girl from a couple of years ago. Wish I could find the pic.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i actually like masn
i dont however like gary thorne gushing about the red sox every time we play them tho. him i could do without. i’m a fan of hunter and palmer.
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All of you are certifiably insane...
…and have low standards in broadcasting. But hey, you’re O’s fans. So low standards are not a big surprise!
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're on an orioles blog
pretty certain you’ll find orioles fans there. glad you made that connection tho
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am....
…but I try to compensate for my baseball woes in other areas.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you could
lay out some of your personal standards I’ll try harder to be like you.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Feel free....
…but in the meantime, while you’re getting up to speed, don’t let your broadcast standards bring down my tv viewing experience. If the team is going to suck they could at least make the broadcasts more fun.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You seem like the "moon bounce" kid
on the MASN commercials. Is that your favorite part of going to the games too? Is that ‘fun’?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JP stirring up shit :-)
Gary Thorne doesn’t really have the knowledge I’d like him to (pitch recognition especially). He has the voice and the temperament of a great announcer. And he has a great rapport with Jim Palmer; it’s obvious Palmer respects him.
Palmer is an arrogant SOB, but he’s go the goods to back it up. He’s part of Orioles history and he’s no homer. I could listen to him talk about pitching all day long.
Hunter is a homer. I could take or leave him. Dempsey is an idiot, but he’s our idiot.
MASN does all right by me. Granted I don’t have extra innings and haven’t lived anywhere else so I don’t have much to compare. I only have national baseball announcers who are pretty much the worst things ever.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's convenient
because Palmer could talk about pitching all day long.
I was joking with my girlfriend that I was happy Brian Bass got non-tendered just so I wouldn’t have to hear 3 Drinks Gary call him “Kevin Bass” anymore.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with JP
I detest the Orioles’ TV broadcasts.
Palmer is the only one who knows anything, and he’s unbearab;e. The rest of them are certifiable idiots. Dempsey in the booth makes my hair hurt.
Only solution is to turn up the radio, which unfortunately doesn’t work well when you watch half of your games or more over the internet.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's better?
I’m honestly curious. Like I said I haven’t had much exposure to other teams’ broadcasts. When I get the free Extra Innings at the start of the season I try to listen to some other guys but it’s not enough to really know.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know who's better.
I don’t watch a lot of other teams’ games.
I just know ours are bad.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I can tell you
the Nats are a hell of a lot worse. Fucking Dibble cheering like a rally monkey whenever the Nats score a run…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dibble is the WORST
But don’t tell him because then he’ll challenge you to a fight.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
broadcasting is so easy
a caveman could do it
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
amen
bob carpenter is only slightly better than rob dibble, which speaks volumes about the shittiness of their broadcasts
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say it...
…YES is better. Much better. And I hate those assholes, but it is a way superior product.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so masn is 2nd?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
….it’s just bad. But there is plenty of bad out there, true. Honestly though I don’t see even the McFox Sports Channels having the weird lulls and lack of chemistry you find all across MASN. Some of those Thorne-Palmer conversations border on the bizarre and it’s always just so…lame. Why can’t we get anyone cool on there? Is Eddie Murray available? How about Al Bumbry, I know he hangs around in the MASN suite.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm eating peanuts right now.
Which type of peanuts should I like? Salted? Un-salted? Honey roasted? Should I even enjoy the crunchy taste of a peanut?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Un-salted.
And you should have them boiled.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoy the Gary & Jim pairings. Especially the awkward moments where Drunk Gary starts singing and Jim (for once) has no idea what to say.
by BrianS on Dec 16, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on the PHN
stuff. But I think he’s entertaining compared to a lot of the other broadcast teams. With Extra Innings I’ve seen almost all of them and some are brutal…CHW…SEA…I’m looking at you…Yes! I could care less about Amber. If her requirement is hotness then she should just do her thing topless or whatever and then I’d care.
Palmer’s arrogance is about the only thing that sticks in my crawl.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea thats true
but i like him anyways.
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The worst broadcast teams
to me, in no order:
Mariners, Blue Jays, and Angels (though they fired their entire team this year).
The best is easily the Mets (which is weird).
But I don’t watch that much baseball outside of SNY, YES, and MASN.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we could do much much worse
Some of the west and central teams announcers sound like they are bored and hate their job, or maybe their team, and don’t know much about their team much less the visitors’
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
…so many broadcasts are done by Fox now and that’s just like the McBroadcasters of sports coverage.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t count the national broadcasts as part of this though. They are really terrible. All of my experience comes from Extra Innings.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking team broadcasts
I get mlb.tv and I’ve been forced to listen to other broadcasters when the MASN feed craps out. Or sometimes I switch out of morbid curiosity, or in hopes of finding out some better info about the other team.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I watch every game
or at least parts of a three game stand I’ll DVR the other team’s broadcast once to see if they have anything interesting to say.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When the O's play the Red Sox
I put on Joe Angel.
You know, I’d like to see Joe Angel in the tv booth sometime, that’d be a hoot. I wouldn’t want to lose him on radio for good, but maybe split it up.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it...
Lets fire a white guy and bring in someone non-white.
But let’s move towards a “colorblind world”.
Now THIS is hilarious.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No...
…originally the discussion was about filling a position already vacated. Then it moved to firing one of the incompetents already on the broadcasts while adding diversity along with a little white Dundalk flavor. Nice try with the lame reverse racism angle though.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, lets fire Amber and bring in someone with color.
Thats not reverse racism. Great point Pops.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
you should look into the definitions of “incompetent” and “diversity” before you start throwing ill thought out accusations at people.
If you thought about what you said before you wrote it, you might notice that the current lack of diversity on the O’s on air personalities is not okay. Particularly not in an area as diverse as Baltimore.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
careful
hes gonna school you. considering that i never received my lunchbox, i’m sure hes got a few in inventory
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That dude
needs to school himself.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
do people even "get schooled" anymore?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah jpops took us to class and schooled us good!
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Sick Burn"
To steal a line from Black Sheep: “Kill…..”
Ok, Ill stop.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying the same thing.
He’s a great sportscaster with a deep history in Baltimore. The only problem is he’s from New York originally and I believe he’s settled in up there. Plus I’m sure YES pays him more than MASN could or would.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's ridiculous
We’re talking about broadcasters. Are the Orioles/MASN so relatively poor compared to the Yankees/YES that we can’t even buy our own history back from them? That’s so irritating.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love Singleton
I don’t know why we couldn’t get him.
I agree that Dave Johnson would transcend (so to speak) the white factor because he’s so local. To me it’s less about make sure it’s diverse and more about how it speaks to the local population (which I think it what you were saying anyway, JP).
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might be alone in this
but I think Johnson sucks. At talking.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he might be the only
ONLY MASN employee who knows fuck-all about the actual sport. I really do. The rest of these guys come off as barely scraping by on a very limited/diluted knowledge pool.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew @ TLC on Dec 16, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh he might know his shit.
I just don’t think he’s a good public speaker and that part is kind of important.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He kind of has a squeaky voice
Which irritated me at first, but I’m okay with it now. There were a few games last year where Dave got mad during the postgame show and was like raising his voice. It was hilarious, and deserved.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of what I like about him
is his rage. He LOVES this team. It’s like having a fan up in there.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
I can’t stand the white sox and the fans they have up in there.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My buddy moved near Chicago
and agrees the White Sox are the worst with the “He-Gooone” thing. He says it makes him throwup in his mouth listening to them.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree with whoever said SEA too!
Those guys are boring.
MIN has MacPhail on when the O’s play them so you can always switch over to their broadcast and catch them fawning over Andy.
TEX is decent but I’m probably more used to them than anything.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not really his voice
He’s just not good at talking. Says “umm” a lot, repeats himself constantly, says a lot of words that are obviously just filler while he thinks of what he wants to say. He sounds like a high school or small college broadcaster to me.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ahaahahah
I like him, but I didn’t used to.
His nasally voice used to grate on my to no end, but the more I hear it the more it is SO Baltimore to me, and I’ve grown to like it.
His opinions used to get on my nerves also, but it mostly stemmed from what I thought was his unfair characterization of Erik Bedard.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one of the most ethnically diverse regions of the United States,
I was kind of curious about this so I decided to grab some quick and easy stats from 2006 via Wikepedia.
The racial makeup of the city was 64.85% African American, 31.28% white, 0.32% native American, 1.53% Asian, 0.03% Pacific islander, 0.67% from other races, and 1.47% from two or more races. 1.70% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.
It’s mostly a bi-racial city. Not much representation outside of white and blacks.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what's the fanbase consist of?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well played sir.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joke of the day?
I think it’s no-contest.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I told your Tiger joke at happy hour yesterday
It went over well.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll have you know
that joke is offensive. Referring to the women Tiger slept with as “ho’s” is messed up. Do YOU know that they are all “ho’s”?
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Yes they are, in fact, all ho's.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OH NO YOU DIH IHHHHH
Let’s see if the response is the same.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a quick and dirty Factfinder table
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disappointed
That wasn’t dirty at all.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 16, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cntrl-c and cntrl-v
I saw it on reddit and had to find an excuse to use it
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh
i thought you actually did that yourself. psh. much less interesting now.
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Result of a half-second google search
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0ca0/index.htm
Happy now?!?
ಠ_à²
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever you're doing is not showing up on my machine
what is it?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
using an Indian language character to make a disapproving face
unfortunately it wasn’t as interesting or exciting as I thought it would be :/
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My comment alone looks bad. I am just honestly curious how you guys closer to or in the city see the fanbase. And do you hire based on the make up of the fanbase or the city?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that you necessarily hire based on the make up of the fan base
But if you’re trying to ignite interest in the team in a demographic that currently doesn’t care it might be a way to start.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo!
To me this is a big deal. You look at the Ravens and everyone across Baltimore follows them. I think the Orioles would do better to try to reach out more specifically to the African American community in the city. I really do. And I know there are bigger cultural factors at play, but they should try to do what they can.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(Done being argumentative)
Question: Dont you think african-american fandom is a problem in the MLB in general?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it certainly is in anaheim
but not at all in nyc. so there ya go.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a problem in NYC?
I’ve not seen a lot of African Americans in my trips to Yankee Stadium. Puerto Ricans maybe…
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i've seen a pretty good mix
but that may be because i live in a pretty diverse neighborhood.
there’re definitely more PR/DR/Cuban fans than AA fans, but I’ve seen a lot of AA fans as well.
to totally hijack this thread, “African-American” itself is a terrible term. A buddy of mine from the Caribbean says (in his british accent), “I have no lineage I can trace to Africa. Why am I called African-American”. I asked what he preferred to be called, and he said, “Sean.”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When you say that you’ve seen a pretty good mix, do you just mean people wearing yankee hats? Because plenty of people wear yankee hats that aren’t even close to interested in the team.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just heard it alot on talk radio about..
…. there not being alot of african american interest across the MLB. Anyone know the % of black players in the MLB. Just curious.
I can look it up in a bit if not.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or are you just talking about people wearing yankee hats/gear?
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
excellent point.
i see more of them on the streets than at the games.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean some of that
is because the yankees charge so damn much for tickets they are limitng the socioeconomic diversity that will be at the stadium.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't you hear?
Jay Z made the Yankee hat more popular than a Yankee can.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
….that’s what the “I know there are bigger cultural factors at play” referred to above.
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish there were
more Tim Legler’s doing basketball broadcasts. I feel alienated watching the game.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I said regions....
…not city in that sentence. Go check out Maryland’s racial makeup on Wikipedia…
by Jonny Pops on Dec 16, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
basically the same I think
you just gotta swap the white and black percentages. More asians probably.
Or I could just look it up.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect that’s true as well. I wouldn’t call a bi-racial state “culturally diverse.” That’s all.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
harold baines
get ol harold to do it. pr harold reynolds not like espn is on his door step any more
by chuckthefan on Dec 16, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no idea
what you’re trying to say here. Are you suggesting Harold Baines? Or Harold Reynolds? Or both? Harold Reynolds is on mlbtv.
And seriously, work on your posts. Maybe try reading them before you click “post.” They are almost always impossible to comprehend.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't get it.
I make an absurd response to him every single time and he never seems to get it.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really dont think he reads the responses
I think he just likes seeing his words magically get posted on the interwebs and moves on.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's pretty damn funny. .
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YEA YOURE WRIGHT ITS FUNNY
just like all ohter psots he makes hear imppossible to read cuz there is no punctuation nd tons of misspelled wrds and all sorts of poor gramar but its not like grammar is on his door step any more
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that actually took me quite a while
its hard to completely ignore the rules of grammar sometimes.
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I fucking love when open threads get into these crazy discussions.
by O'sFan21 on Dec 16, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They should fire him and hire someone
that can ride a unicycle.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also hate Juan
but i’m gonna give him some time without Mora to see if he’s better than I think he is. Having Melmo running the bases can’t be good for public perception of a 3rd base coach.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Huff Daddy
Still though, you’d think he’d learn the limitations of the baserunners.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've only been around for a year BUT....
Are we going to set an offseason open thread record today? LOL
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like talking hot girls and race to go for the gold....
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean,
gun toting, bible thumping, non-white, reporter-next-door girls?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont forget "fetish" at the end.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what kind of searches will lead people to CC today...
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 16, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we (or they) didn't have a daily offseason thread.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
we didn’t have offseason threads before this year.
And I think if you can call the Orioles “we” (if you’re one who does) you can certainly call CC “we.” :)
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well,
i’m just sayin…i’ve been around for a while and I didn’t make color guard or anything like that. :)
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point
No wonder you feel alienated.
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats ok
I think all us old timers that weren’t cool enough to be in the club should make our own group. We can name it after thundercats charecters or something.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That figures!
I’m not familiar with Thundercats so I guess I won’t be invited to THAT club either.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?
Thunder, thunder, thunder, thunder cats!
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
doesn’t ring a bell. i was born in the GI Joe time frame. Is TC the same time period?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was born in '82 and I watched both GI Joe and Thundercats
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was also born in 82
and watched neither of them, but yea. I guess thats the time period we’re looking at. We could do Ninja Turtles if that works better.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'80 for me
but with two younger bros (‘86 and ’84) so I’m up on the Ninja Turtles.
Remember the allstars cartoon with Bo Jackson (?), Wayne Gretzky, and I think Michael Jordan?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
though I hated sports as a kid (except basketball, oddly), so I didnt watch it much.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
jesus christ, you're all BABIES.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Babies?
I just turned 27 and have been kind of depressed about it.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wake me when you're passing 40....
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll be okay with 40
50 will probably be the great freak-out year.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We might have to
old people fall asleep pretty early.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hnzzzz wha? what happened?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're older than me, dude
I just act all pissy about being old. :)
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
SPEAK UP SONNY. LET ME GET OUT MY EAR HORN
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped feeling young
once my favorite players were younger than me. Now THAT sucked. I’ll be 28 in July. I’m old enough.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball players are one thing
I REALLY stopped feeling young when my doctor was younger than me. Doctors are supposed to be old!
by Stacey on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My optometrist?
Graduated from the school where I teach 3 years before I got there. The teacher next door to me? Was a junior AT the high school when I started there.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite show as a kid was CHiPs
I’ll be Ponch.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
EMERGENCY!
Gage and DeSoto!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now THAT was a show....
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
look at lovely Dixie McCall (aka Julie London) all perky in that front row.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Dec 16, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You missed out on a lot -
If you weren’t around when Star Blazers, Battle of the Planets, Robotech & all the other scifi Japanamation made it to the US in the late 70s/early 80s.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Dec 16, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually hated thundercats
It just ran at the same time as GI Joe (which I also didnt like), so I figured it would work out.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ducktales
and the one with kit cloud kicker were two i remeber too. i watched the incredible hulk and he-man some too. thundercats only ran for a year (1985) from what I can tell.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ducktales rocks
and the other one was Tail Spin. Thundercats was hugely popular. It ran from ‘85-’90 and had 130 episodes.
I was a huge he-man fan though.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhhh Ducktales
On right before Darkwing Duck!
“I am the bubble gum that sticks to your shoe….”
Ahhh… I miss that guy.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tale Spin
Yeah those shows were great. I watched all the shows from Ducktales to Goof Troop.
Based on this wikipedia article, I watched the Disney afternoon from 1990 to 93/94ish. I never got into Bonkers.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and saved by the bell was the shit.
i also watched a bunch of brady bunch re-runs right before or after SBTB.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, teh Refreshments one good song...
Well give your ID card to the border guard
Yeah, your alias says you’re Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Of the United Federation of Planets
‘Cause he won’t speak English anyway….
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stupid reply fail....
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
by duck on Dec 16, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
another bird dropping
Shamu named least valuable pitcher of the 2000s by ESPN.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW!
Thats a confidence BOOSTER…. LOL
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really kinda feel bad for the guy
I mean, do they want him to relapse?
Wait, its the Disney co… of course they do.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just a couple paragraphs into that article...
and already three Orioles pitchers are named. They also bring up Denny Neagle, who I think went to Arundel
by brek on Dec 16, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how they throw Pavano in there
just to get a pitcher that the ESPN readers can identify.
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 16, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett Atkins
reportedly has an offer from three teams.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
COME ON!!!
Nobody bit on DARKWING FREAKING DUCK!!!?!?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, of course
Look at the wikipedia link that I posted. I watched the two-hour block of disney cartoons every day for about three or four years. Ducktales, Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, Tale Spin, Darkwing Duck, and Goof Troop. I think Ducktales was probably my favorite, but I loved them all.
Today, I think Tale Spin would be the most interesting to go back and watch. In what South Pacific island nation did the show take place? Was Baloo an American? Was Khan a British colonialist or an expat entrepreneur? Just seems kind of interesting.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
I just turned 26… I was right there with ya!!! LOL
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Darkwing
but that was really at the end of my Saturday morning cartoons phase. I think I really just watched the intro and then changed the channel. I liked the song tho. Goof Troop was definitely never in my list of what to watch.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t a Darkwing Fan. I forgot about Chip and Dale though!
In high school I still caught the animaniacs in the morning while I was rolling out of bed trying to find something on the floor to wear that day. The godfather pigeons were awesome.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Animaniacs also awesome
And Tiny Tunes.
And how can we forget Batman: The Animated Series? I think I’d still watch that show if it was on tv.
by PhilR8 on Dec 16, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all of this was great stuff
x-men was amazing though. I had to illegaly track down all the episodes and make my own complete collection on dvd. It still rocks.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
that’s about the time i started fading on the cartoons. even know, i can’t stand how every third movie that comes out is a comic book or cartoon hero story with real people.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on Dec 16, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was a big comic book nerd
so I love it.
by daveh873 on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, I still go around saying "The terror that flaps in the night" to this day
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 16, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he doesn't live at 227
There’s a Klankees prospect named Melky Mesa.
Let me say that again, Melky Mesa. I love it.
by Dr Orpheus on Dec 16, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
D-backs signed Rodrigo Lopez to a minor-league deal
by Dr Orpheus on Dec 16, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WAY TO GO JUANITA'S EX!!!!!
lol
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 16, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in related HOT STOVE news
the rays signed 1B chris richard to a minor league deal. that’s not the same orioles reject chris richard is it?
by twistedlogic on Dec 16, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably is. Richard played for the Rays last season as well.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
by birdman on Dec 16, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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