Left Field Sitch-e-ation
by matman008 on Dec 18, 2009 3:25 AM EST
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PrintThere are many people throwing the idea around of trading Luke Scott and putting Nolan Reimold at DH. We know with the injury that we may want him to be off of it as much as he can be but still play him. The fact remains though that Reimold isnt a good enough hitter to warrant him as being our DH, Scott isnt a good enough fielder to play everyday LF, and Felix Pie was good as of late last season but are we really willing to have him playing left everyday?
A lot of people are also assuming that Reimold is just going to give in and willingly accept to be our DH. You can not extrapolate an injury-shortened Rookie season out to the full 162 and assume that he will hit .300, 25, 100. Yes we want him around. Personally he is my favorite player on the team even though he runs like an emu or dinosaur or something else with an extra chromosome, but I will be the first to admit Scott's bat is much better suited for DH. Reimold to first even makes more sense. Less running and the DH spot isnt taken up by his bat, but now we still have the issue of who's in left? And for that matter, who's on first? I dont know, third base.
What do you all think?
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Luke's fielding is underrated
…as has been discussed ad nauseum here. However, I agree that there is little point to considering him for day-to-day LF duties unless Pie and/or Reimold are hurt/sucking. Either way, Luke is incredibly streaky and there are months where it would be painful to know he was our only real choice at DH. I like Luke but he’s the first one we should trade.
Reimold
I’d really hate to take a talented young player like Reimold and relegate him to DH this early in his career. It would limit his skill set going forward and, should the right opportunity present itself, it would diminish his trade value. He’s not a butcher out there and he’s got an arm. I honestly don’t see any reason for him to not be our starting LF’er. If you want to DH him one game each week (or a bit more as he comes back from injury) to keep him healthy and to get Pie at-bats, then great. Other than that, I’m all for Nolan in left.
In general I agree with all of this
But with the DH/1B slots so weak it’s really tempting to move him over to DH or 1B to get Pie’s bat/glove in the lineup too.
Thats true
I just am not really sold that Pie is as good as we all want him to be. I’d be happier with Nolan at 1st for now, just because I really would hate to make a guy like Nolan a full time DH this early in his career.
Oh I don't think he's necessarily going to be good
but as long as we’re still developing and not trying to compete immediately it seems like it’s worth finding out if he’s that good. I’d be cool with rotating him and Nolan between LF and DH making sure they each play a bunch in LF and get a lot of ABs.
Pie
Luke Scott is too streaky for a decent team. He has trade value because of power, so trade him for some other need like a relief pitcher or a SS prospect. That leaves the team with Pie, Reimold and Montanez. Pie is the best fielder of the three, and Reimold is coming back from Achilles surgery. I agree that Reimold needs to play LF some when he is healthy, but right now, Pie is the better fielder. I think DH is the place for Reimold, for now. Montanez is a perfect 4th or 5th outfielder.
no really!
on a beer league softball team he’s the perfect combination of speed and power for the rover position.
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You can not extrapolate an injury-shortened Rookie season
WHAAAA!!! People on here do it for Felix Pie all the time. Dude had like 7 good innings all year.
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THANKYOU!
Not to mention the countless brain farts in left field.
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by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 18, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
agreed!
but apparently that extrapolation says his defense is outstanding.
do they even show the orioles out in houston?
by twistedlogic on Dec 18, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
No, but I hear they have mlb games on the interwebs now!
Isn’t technology something?
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by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 19, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Defense
I don’t watch every game (few games, in fact) and even I know that his defense is nothing to write home about.
He just doesn't know what to do with the ball once he gets it.
Perfect example was on the night he hit his cycle. After fielding a routine single, he holds on for a while, and then fires the ball wildly past Brian Roberts, who wasn’t expecting such a hard, high throw.
But he can get to the ball faster than most and I’ve never heard any criticisms on his jump on the ball.
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by the fix is in on Dec 24, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
And he tries really hard!
And when he messes up he is more dissapointed in himself than we are in him.
PIE
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by the fix is in on Dec 24, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Also, he responds well on the bench. He's no Ryan Freel.
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by the fix is in on Dec 24, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Reimold's Fielding
I think it’s worth pointing out that in addition to his Achilles injury, which was bothering him for most of the year as I recall, Nolan mostly played right field in the minors. According to Baseball Reference, he only played 33 games (out of 377) in left field in the minors. While there are lots of games where he’s just listed as an OF, it’s still 33 games in LF compared to 177 in RF. That’s a pretty significant difference, and he played in RF almost exclusively in 2008.
Anyway, point is, the guy was getting used to a new position this year, in addition to being injured. Given that and his solid arm, I think he can be at least an average LF going forward.
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He also played center
His defense will be vastly improved once he’s healthy.
Pie made any number of boneheaded plays. He often played the field like he wasn’t in it.
Scott would yield a fringe prospect and a minor league reliever.
Montanez is fine as a 4th or 5th outfielder/occasional DH. He hit fine. Lets see what he can do in Spring Training before casting judgment.
Lou Montanez fucking sucks.
The end.
Lou wishes he was a third as good as Pie or Scott.
Basically, fuck him, and his one good year in the minors.
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Nolan...
…is still going to be nursing that achilles a bit, so I don’t see any problem with DH’ing him early and seeing how things shake out as the season unwinds. Pie covers a lot of ground in LF, which will help the pitching staff.
I’d dangle Scott as trade bait for relief help.
And…from the initial post…I don’t understand the concept that Reimold’s bat is good enough for LF or 1B, but not for DH.
Where do you get that he'll be nursing that still?
I thought they said he would be 100% by spring training.
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