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Saturday Bird Droppings

SNOW!!! SNOW!! OMG SNOW!! TURN ON THE LOCAL NEWS AND SEE ALL THE PANIC!!! 

Hot Stove Around the League:  The Cubs are sending that pesky Milton Bradley to the Mariners for Carlos Silva, Nick Johnson is going to the Yankees on a one year deal, the Nationals aren't interested in Johnny Damon because they want good defense (I'm sure Johnny is crushed), and not many teams want Miguel Tejada as a SS so he may have to be willing to move to third. 

Orioles get great value in Mike Gonzalez
The Hardball Times thinks the O's got good value for their new closer. silverstadium posted this as a fanshot but people never look there so here it is again. -Stacey

Garrett Atkins to the Orioles | FanGraphs Baseball
FanGraphs evaluates the Garrett Atkins signing. Verdict? "Baltimore isn’t paying excessively for Atkins, and he won’t be blocking any prospects who might be ready for 2011. Way to bridge a gap, Mr. MacPhail." -Stacey

Did The Orioles Reach On Garrett Atkins? - Beyond the Box Score
BtB is of a slightly different opinion than FanGraphs on Mr. Atkins. -Stacey

MASN star search continues
No word on who will replace Buck Martinez, but rumored names of interest are Mike Flanagan, Billy Ripken, Brady Anderson, and Ken Singleton. Brady Anderson? Has he ever done that sort of thing before? -Stacey

Erbe gets a clean bill of health
Brandon Erbe's sprained pinky is healed and he's ready to get going on winter workouts. He hopes to start 2010 at AAA. I love a local kid, don't you? -Stacey

MacPhail satisfied for now | orioles.com: News
Andy MacPhail likely made his biggest splashes of the offseason over the last couple of weeks, when he traded for Kevin Millwood, signed Mike Gonzalez to a two-year deal and reached agreement on a one-year pact with Garrett Atkins.  -zk

Mike Gonzalez was officially announced on Friday and had his first press conference. Subsequently, MASNsports.com was a veritable Gonzopalooza: Gonzalez Meets the PressMeet the Newest OrioleMore Gonzo, and Trembley Chimes In.  Requisite feel good quote from your newest Oriole: 

Looking at the lineup, seeing the core, these guys are not just young, but very talented guys. You look at the defense. I've got a great middle defense up in the front, the middle infield and the outfield. As a pitcher, that's what you want, that's what you look for. It seemed like a good fit for me.

They're exciting, they're young, they're very talented. And it's going to be a pleasure to work with these guys and be a part of it.

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But the fire is so delightful
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Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's

that white stuff that keeps showing up in Dr. Chicago. Er, Zhivago. Which was filmed in Spain, of course.

Welp, we’ve had a bunch of it recently, and some nice wintry temps too: so far -24’ C is the lowest registered on my outside-the-kitchen-window thermometer.

Big blizzard coming in Sun.-Mon., according to the pathological liars at Russia’s Nat-Weath-Cent (whom the mayor of Moscow tried to have fired after their last, uh, slight miscalculation of incoming snowfall— about half a foot short). All I can say is: It beter clear up by Tues. a.m., ‘cause I’m flyin’ to NY that day for the hols. Fingers crossed. pls…

As to Gonzales: “They’re exciting, they’re young, they’re very talented.” Hey, two outta three ain’t bad!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Dec 19, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions  

Local news says

most airlines will be back on schedule by Sundayafternoon. Most cancellations will be taken care of by Monday night. You should be good to go (unless you are flying into Newark, which means you will definitely be delayed no matter when you come).

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Salisbury and its 2" of snow aren't impressed.

I’m depressed. Not even enough to cover the roads, and I live where the plows don’t go.

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

poor Salisbury

I remember when I was in college and all of my friends who went to school in Baltimore would have delayed openings or canceled classes and I would just look out my window at the rain and curse the eastern shore.

by Stacey on Dec 19, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

fail

i got out of cville just in time. they already had an inch or so when i left and 16 overnight. got at least a foot now in northern va

by twistedlogic on Dec 19, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If you knew what the traffic patterns were like you wouldn't complain

Seriously I’d love for most people to sit at a scope one day and try and run an arrival pattern or even a feeder facility. I hate delays as much as the next person but there are so many factors into getting planes through the sky on time most ppl have no idea…

by GeoffreyA on Dec 19, 2009 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

particularly since much of the ATC infrastructure dates from the 1960s

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Dec 19, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, thanks

My gf is flying to newark on Monday, we were discussing how bad the passenger overflow was gonna be then. Whats the CF at EWR, just flight volume?

by CoachOfEarl on Dec 19, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the flow is Really the issue

Tbh, with 8 major airports basically sharing 4 different arrival points it gets hectic at times. Sometimes, as a controller, u really have no other choice than to delay someone.

by GeoffreyA on Dec 19, 2009 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mike Gonzalez

looks very “Dancing with the Stars” in the photo with Andy. That vest is snazzy!

by sickuvitall on Dec 19, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

that was the first thing i thought, and now i’m glad i wasn’t the only person who thought the same thing.

What up?

by snakethejake on Dec 20, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He tends to be a 'snazzy' dresser...

Leaving for the last Braves road trip this year…

Last year…

And he always puts down a towel before he sits on the bench in the bullpen, too. Likes to throw the tough guy look around, but is super nice (esp. to kids), and has fun with teammates in the pen. Sorry I don’t have the better pics uploaded to share; kind of behind on that. I’ll miss him; hope he can deliver for you guys.

by Lizziebeth on Dec 29, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Random question, sports fans...

has anyone ever ordered from the website sportsunlimitedinc.com? Is it legit? I want to get some Ravens stuff for people for xmas and the nfl.com shop sucks…

Or, what are good non-official websites to order MLB/NFL stuff? (I’m not talking jerseys, I just mean beer steins, wall decorations, things like that.)

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

fansedge.com

ive ordered from them a couple of times. I know they are legit and sometimes they have some great deals.

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

also, check out

Skinit.com

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Dec 19, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snowwwww.

Oh, how I love this time of year. :) Except for the fact that I’m I can’t go anywhere.

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Dec 19, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Enjoy it.

We ain’t getting anything in Salisbury right now. :(

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Awww. :(

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Dec 19, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

I just realized what a fail this post was.
*Except for the fact that NOW I can’t go anywhere.

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Dec 19, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Saying that we're going to get 9 inches in New York

I’m interested to see how my dog handles his first snow storm.

by James F on Dec 19, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Depends on who you listen to

Last night they were talking 18" on Long Island and 10"-14" here in Bergen. If we get 5" i’ll be shocked. The 1st real snowfall is always way overhyped in this area.

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I only pay attention to NY1

But yeah, I’ll be shocked if we actually get that much.

But I’ve got a very very small dog (13 pounds) so just about anything will be a lot from his perspective.

by James F on Dec 19, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

9" is realistic

I just love how everything becomes a blizzard. I’m pretty sure whoever says we’re getting the most gets the highest ratings, so why report the facts?

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well NOAA is saying

1-3" this afternoon, 5-9" tonight, and <1" Sunday. They are usually the most accurate place to look in my experience.

by Stacey on Dec 19, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

We already have a foot in Annapolis

I was driving last night, and it was rediculous. Longest sixteen miles of my life. I was determined to barely go 20 MPH the whole time, and cars were passing me on a one lane road, only to spin out right in front of me. I saw over 4 cars spin out.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Dec 19, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

ha!

you should see the panic in OK after a light dusting! Although we usually have one brutal ice storm a year.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

We have two feet just 45 minutes south in prince Frederick.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 19, 2009 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We only had about 3 inches this morning in York Pa, (we have about a foot now), but roads were terrible.

My wife had graduation from PSU Harrisburg this morning at 9:30, and we left at 7:30. We live in the backwoods, and our roads were horrible, but I thought once then we got to 83, and it wasn’t any better. Went 1 exit north and turned around headed home. I have a Dodge Neon, and it was terrifying. There were several places where we almost got stuck, and at one point I was uanble to get up a hill toward my house and we had to detour.

I’ve since spent 6 hours shoveling my long, gravel driveway twice, with one more pass needed tonight, and probably 1 tomorrow.

In short, screw snow. (And thanks for tolerating my venting, CC)

by BrianS on Dec 19, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Salisbury U canceled their winter graduation

and Rexx over at BaltimoreBeatdown is PISSED. As I would be.

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pissed that PSU Hb didn’t cancel theirs, actually. I imagine there were a huge amount of no shows.

by BrianS on Dec 20, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

and it’s stopped already (at least in Hackensack). So far we have a dusting on the ground.

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Here too....

…didn’t even stick on the sidewalks. My folks got over eight inches though in Montgomery Co. Maryland.

by James F on Dec 19, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Our dogs are doing alright so far

(only the first snowstorm for one), but it’s a pain in the ass trying to find a place where they can go to the bathroom. We’ve got over a foot so far.

by O'sFan21 on Dec 19, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not expecting to see any snow today...

….since it’s 71° here.

But I am ever hopeful…..

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Dec 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Wanna trade?

1 foot here and counting…

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet Lord

I take that back. I finally went outside to try and shovel… it’s a foot and a half easy.

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I just went outside to shovel

it doesn’t seem to be stop snowing anytime soon.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Dec 19, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No exact measurements, but certainly over a foot in Lutherville

the GF and I took an hour walk around the neighborhood and along York Road… everything is closed and the roads look terrible. Plus it was snowing like a mofo. The buses were still running, though!

by PhilR8 on Dec 19, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And we still got almost nothing in Salisbury

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of gfs and bfs

I’m currently having the greatest possible third-wheel situation ever. The only ones left in my house are me, my roommate, and her boyfriend… which one might think would be annoying and awkward…. but right now he is shoveling our driveway, and she has been baking Christmas cookies and other tasty treats since 9am which I get to eat, AND she is making a batch of chili for dinner. Thank you, Snowpacolypse!

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

haha +1

normally the third wheel situation is awkward. hate it when that happens

by twistedlogic on Dec 19, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember a game in Anaheim a couple years ago

Brady Anderson did four or five five innings of announcing with Gary and Jim. Gary tried to make the best of it, but it really seemed awkward and I would sometimes have to change the channel for thirty seconds or so, just to get past those uncomfortable stretches.

So needless, to say, I don’t want to see Brady Anderson get the job. If we could pry Ken Singleton away from YES, that would be fantastic. Always enjoyed him.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Dec 19, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Ken does a great job

I’d love to see him working with MASN. I’d also love to see Brady because its Brady Anderson and he’s awesome. I’m sure he’d suck, but I love me some Brady.

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you my little sister from the years 1993-1997?

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess its possible

was your sister a 27 year old guy from NJ?

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

No, she was a 12 year old girl from Maryland.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying

that only 12 year old girls can think Brady is awesome? :p

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just saying that one did.

As did every other 12 year old girl I knew at the time…something about his sideburns.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he was saying that his sister

is, in fact, a female. and not 27. also not from the armpit of america.

by twistedlogic on Dec 19, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

she's 27 now, and still not from the armpit of america.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Armpit of America

Original. When did you come up with that one? Its awfully witty.

by daveh873 on Dec 19, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes perception is reality

In Jerseys case, perception is an understated reality

by GeoffreyA on Dec 19, 2009 10:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

snowpocalypse.

15 inches in greencastle, pa
Look here

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

totally what she said.

I’m hoping I can make a three feet high and rising reference sooner or later.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

how high’s the snow gtxstoked?

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

you know....

how high’s the water mama?
it’s three feet high and risin’
how high’s the water papa?
she said it’s three feet high and risin’

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 19, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking more this than that

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Johnny Cash > De La Soul

Sorry, he just is.

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably.

That was just the one that was on my mind.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

oops...sorry.

i’m no de la soul expert

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 20, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

The snow is effing with my cable, y'all

While I’m trying to watch Taken starring the great Liam Neeson. It’s my first set back of the blizzard.

by Stacey on Dec 19, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

I liked Taken

Liam Neeson as a badass was highly entertaining. Had to brush the snow off our dish this morning to get it to work. Thankfully it’s no longer on the roof.

Awesome write-up regarding the 2nd round picks by the way. Thank you.

by brooksflow on Dec 19, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Bears haven't been able to get in Maryland for tomorrow's game. Airport is closed

Also, Maryland is in an OFFICIAL state of emergency.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Dec 19, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

I am SOOOOOOOO jealous

Dammit, Chesapeake Bay, why you gotta mess with my snow!

Ocean City, by the way, has seen nothing but rain. Not a flake on teh ground.

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man...

Beaches in the snow….like ‘Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind’

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Dec 19, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I envy you, duck.

by BrianS on Dec 19, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I want snow!

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a really beautiful photo

despite the fact that it means my Sunday plans of sitting around watching football are probably ruined

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

nah

they’ve got people working around the clock to make sure there’s no snow at M&T. They’re rounding it up and throwing it in the Chesapeake Bay apparently. So as long as the Bears can get here, there will be football tomorrow.

Um, assuming you’re a Ravens fan. I would guess the Redskins are doing something similar, though.

by Stacey on Dec 19, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Redskins have hired 1,200 to clear the stadium

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Stacey!

Ravens all the way!!!

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, the Redskins play Monday night.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 19, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, well I grew up just outside it and now I live in it

but my dad grew up here too and was a Colts fan… so… he raised me and my brothers to hate the Redskins, and so I always hated them without entirely understanding why, just knew that I was supposed to. Then the Ravens appeared and it made sense to root for them, and now here I am, a Redskins-hating Ravens fan in DC. Whee!

by O Nina on Dec 20, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That photo screams

“I’m the biggest douche bag in the entire world!”

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Dec 19, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Check out this picture of Papelbon

http://www.overthemonster.com/2009/12/17/1199604/top-moments-09-no-8-papelbons

ugh I hate that guy

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Dec 19, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

I've seen some douchy guys in my day

But Papelbon might be the douchiest. Or is it tool of douchocity?

by Dr Orpheus on Dec 19, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that anyone probably cares about this, but the Hershey Bears haven’t canceled their game tonight. I imagine they’ll be playing to an empty arena. I’d be pissed if I had tickets to that one.

I wonder what they’ll do about the Ravens game. The Eagles already moved their game back to 4:15 from 1:15.

by BrianS on Dec 19, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

They moved the Ravens game to 4:15 as well

buuuut if you look at the photo a few comments up… I wonder if they’ll play at all.

by O Nina on Dec 19, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

They supposedly have 700 people staying at the stadium to deal with snow

Although you do have to ask where exactly they are putting it all.

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 19, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what the Inner Harbor is for...

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bears have a flight scheduled for 9 pm tonight.

Which is now.

We’ve got at least 18 inches in Annapolis at this point. In the residential community I live at, there were like 3 cars blocking our path home, all stuck near the bottom of a huge hill that my house is at the top of.

We just spent all that time digging our a parking space right next to the van and parallel parking in it.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Dec 19, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

haha me too

i was a machine. had to shovel like 5 times and i still have more snow out there.

by twistedlogic on Dec 19, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

YAY SNOW!!

21 inches in Columbia

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2613/4198597496_f946084508_o.jpg

shoveled a few times but gave up early afternoon.

by Steve. on Dec 19, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, not so much in Salisbury....

"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White

by duck on Dec 19, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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