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Monday Bird Droppings: Post Snow Edition

Not much O's news today, I'd expect it'll stay that way pretty much until the end of the year with Christmas and New Years right around the corner. Did everyone on the east coast enjoy their snowy weekend? I for one am annoyed that my work told me I have to go in today. Jerks. It was a good Sunday, though, other than the shoveling. The Ravens won, Miami, Denver, and the Jets lost. If only the Steelers hadn't pulled it out at the last second it would have been the perfect football day, don't you think? Although anyone who watched that last drive had to admit it was very exciting. Anyway, to baseball:

Brad Komminsk reviews Bowie's pitching
He talks about Arrieta, Bascom, Erbe, Steve Johnson, Lebron, Patton, Perrault, Tanaka, and Chad Thall. -Stacey

Two-minute drill - EagleTribune.com, North Andover, MA
This doesn't have to do with baseball, but this dude called the Buffalo Bills "a laughingstock, the Baltimore Orioles of the AFC East." Nice. -Stacey

A's close to deal to acquire Crisp - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
The A's and Coco Crisp have agreed on a one year deal with an option for 2011. Yes, this is considered news on a slow day like today. -Stacey

Saber-Slanted Last Minute Xmas Gifts - Beyond the Box Score
BtB offers some Christmas ideas for the baseball fan in your life. -Stacey

Six Baseball Books Worthy of Christmas Wrapping Paper - DRaysBay
DRaysBay offers some books for the baseball fan in your life. -Stacey

Edit (10:39 a.m.): This was posted on ESPN insider about an hour ago. I hope it will put all of the Adrian Gonzalez talk to bed:

Once the Red Sox landed free agent John Lackey last week, the rumor mill quickly had Boston looking into a deal for Adrian Gonzalez in which Clay Buchholz would be sent to San Diego.

There might be other teams able to put a package together for the star first baseman. Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe says the Baltimore Orioles could be players at some point since "they were in on Mark Teixeira last offseason and have the prospects to make it happen."

One executive cautioned that the Padres would ask for Matt Wieters or Brian Matusz, which would be too high a price for the O's.

Keep dreaming, Padres!

Only one thing in the world could've dragged me away from the soft glow of electric sex gleaming in the Open Thread

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Lots of cinemas have upgraded one or two screens to be IMAX screens

The AMC theaters in Columbia and White Marsh are two examples. It’s not a traditional IMAX with the five-story screen, but it IS larger than the typical cinema screen and they use IMAX projectors and all that stuff.

by PhilR8 on Dec 21, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Aziz

was really pissed off about this last year and vowed to fight the IMAX monster. Oh well.

I’ve heard only really great things about this movie, but it just doesn’t look interesting at all in the commercials.

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 21, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m not interested at all. Just looks like a standard sci-fi/action flick, with a ‘Dances with Wolves’ storyline….

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Dec 21, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw for $15.50 at a 3D, IMAX theater. The special effects are truly amazing. You literally feel transported to a different world. But what an god awful storyline.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Dec 21, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

it's funny.. i'm going to watch it, and i'm sure i'll like it..

..but based on the early previews, it looked very stupid. The animated aliens looked like … well, cartoons. And they used the line “Ladies, you’re not in Kansas anymore!” during the previews as well..

It was reminiscent of the days when I saw the previews for a movie called “The Matrix” ; Bad guy used the line “Buckle your seatbelts Dororthy, because Kansas is going bye-bye.” I remember thinking that if they had to use a line like that for a preview, the movie had to be crazy stupid. Yet it was not. (Until they proceeded to butcher it with the sequels)

Weird. How do you rate this movie among all the movies you’ve ever seen?

by Y Not on Dec 21, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

what happened to movies with real people?

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 21, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm... real people..

Look at the reviews for the movie “Old Dogs”

That’s what happens when you only have humans in a movie.

by Y Not on Dec 21, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

what's "old dogs"

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 21, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing and swore to not waste my money seeing it.

But every review i’ve read since, including from some well respected movie critics, has screamed masterpiece. SO i think i have to.

by kba26 on Dec 21, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You have to see it in 3D

The commercials and trailers just don’t do it justice. I forgot the movie was in 3D about five minutes into the movie. It’s basically like you’re looking through a window into the movie world. Here’s a good review from the tech blog Gizmodo. Here’s a great quote that I agree with:

I don’t expect you to believe me if you haven’t seen the film yet. I, myself, was a huge skeptic until a few hours ago. Blue people? Papyrus font?? What the fuck happened to dinosaurs and light sabers and killer robots from the future? Did we use all the cool stuff up?
 
But about 30 minutes in to the film, you realize that the marketing has undersold the movie.

That’s right – even though the hype for this movie has been off the charts, it has still managed to undersell the movie.

Imagine if someone took Fern Gully, Titanic, Dances with Wolves, and Aliens and combined them into a single script, and then spent ten years filming the movie to make sure everything was perfect. People have been throwing around the euphemism “old-fashioned storytelling” to describe the plot of this film, which I guess is deserved. The movie is basically Dances with Wolves with aliens instead of Indians. There’s nothing really new that it brings to the table with the story, and at times it can even be a little preachy with it’s metaphors about the U.S military and imperialism and runaway corporate greed and all that stuff.

But at the end of the day, all those minor quibbles are easily forgiven because the movie is so much fun and so amazing to watch. The CGI people aren’t quite photorealistic, but there closer than we’ve ever seen before, and the illusion is complete for probably 95% of the movie. Occasionally a character will fall in an odd way and you remeber it’s CGI, but that is quickly forgotten.

I can’t wait to see it again.

by PhilR8 on Dec 21, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

The CGI people aren’t quite photorealistic, but there closer than we’ve ever seen before, and the illusion is complete for probably 95% of the movie. Occasionally a character will fall in an odd way and you remeber it’s CGI, but that is quickly forgotten.

Thats what i’ve heard is one of the most remarkable parts of the movie, the way they’ve almost totally avoided the uncanny valley. In that respect alone, I’m now dying to see it.

by kba26 on Dec 21, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally,

I guess I’m just turned off by all the hype. Kind of my knee-jerk reaction whenever anything is hyped that much. I don’t care about the CGI graphics – and if it’s just sort of retelling ‘Dances with Wolves’, who cares?

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Dec 21, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There's only so many stories

Why see movies at all? I mean, did you see District 9? It’s the same plot, but told in an interesting and novel way with great SFX, performances, and characterizations. Last Samurai, Dune…. these are the same stories.

by PhilR8 on Dec 21, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

there are plenty of other stories

it just takes a little more effort and patience to write them.

more effort and patience than the large studios are willing to gamble on.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Dec 21, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

like blood meridian

i’d like to see someone adapt that.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Dec 21, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I didn't see District 9, any good?

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Dec 22, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

no

i thought it was kinda dumb

by twistedlogic on Dec 22, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the previews look bad.

Whenever I see the battle scenes, I’m reminded of the Ewok scenes in Jedi or the scene in Phantom Menace where the army of annoying Jar Jar dudes fights the army or annoying robots.

You know, somewhat primitive aliens courageously defeat an oppressive but technologically superior army.

That said, I’m sure I’d probably at least enjoy watching it, even if afterwards I don’t think it’s all that great.

by BrianS on Dec 21, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Whenever I see the battle scenes, I’m reminded of the Ewok scenes in Jedi or the scene in Phantom Menace where the army of annoying Jar Jar dudes fights the army or annoying robots.

When I walked out the theater I immediately thought of SW EP 1-3. Both movies are visual candy with cardboard plots.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Dec 21, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the report on Erbe

Glad to see that he is rated above Arrieta.

by BaltoBen on Dec 21, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

HA!

The Wieters/Matusz thing actually made me laugh out loud.

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Dec 21, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

If the price for A-Gone is either

he can stay in SD.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Dec 21, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want a laugh

Here’s an old story about a guy going to Tropicana field. I just re-found it today randomly and it still cracked me up.

http://progressiveboink.com/index.php?/archive/where-the-sun-dont-shine/

by Stacey on Dec 21, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Haha I'm glad I clicked on that

Long but good and funny. I had no idea the extent of the ridiculousness of that park. And I lolled at the “mounted arm of Cookie Monster holding a lamp.”

by O Nina on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope the Padres ask for a king's ransom

I hope the Red Sox can’t make that trade. It’s precisely the kind of deal they need if they can get Gonzalez to agree to terms. The Red Sox have one of the best rotations lining up this year. Yeah, you can never have enough pitching, but they sorely lacked hitting last year. Gonzalez gives them instant pop in exchange for a guy who is still pretty much a prospect.

by drj on Dec 21, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

They'll be fine without Gonzo

Where did this idea that the Red Sox offense was bad last year come from, exactly? They scored 872 runs – only two teams in baseball outscored them! Their offensive core of Martinez, Youkilis, Pedroia, and Drew is terrific and I doubt that the loss of Bay is really going to turn them suddenly into a mediocre offensive team.

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 21, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn’t hurt to have Ellsbury in there as well.

by Garyland1177 on Dec 21, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually it kind of does.

I can see him having Corey Patterson’s career, except without the good defense.

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Dec 21, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

well I would love him to have that career considering he plays for boston. But when you consider Ellsbury has a career BA .047 and an OBP .060 higher than Patterson, I think it’s safe to say he will be better than Patterson. Patterson also had 131 steals in 7 seasons. Jacoby has 129 in three…

by Garyland1177 on Dec 22, 2009 4:29 AM EST up reply actions  

It's late and I have to be at work early tomorrow

but I cannot tear my eyes away from this shitshow of a football game.

by O Nina on Dec 21, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yea

there’s no way i’m going to bed til the game is off the air. Someone might pull a gun! How can you look away?

by daveh873 on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hilarious

What does it matter? I think Jacobs probably should have gotten one too, and Hall as well, but it’s not like it effected the outcome of the game.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

fairness?

The outcome of the game isn’t the ONLY thing that matters. They were able to score another TD because of that.

by O'sFan21 on Dec 22, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok

well, if they gave Hall, Haynsworth, and Jacobs all penalties, who’s to say they still don’t score after that? They basically took out Jacobs at that point anyway (I believe he had 1 carry for 1 yard after that point), so it’s not like anything would have been different if they ejected him (which they didnt do to any player anyway). In any event, it would have been 38-12 best case scenario (for Washington anyway). Besides, if you give Jacobs a penalty you pretty much have to give Hall the penalty as well. So yea, they fucked up, but they fucked up on both sides.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would hall have gotten a penalty?

for being punched by Jacobs? Hall was pushing and shoving (which is never panalized) – Jacobs threw multiple punches. Like I said the outcome of the game is not the only thing that matters.

by O'sFan21 on Dec 22, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, if it's fairness you want...

I’m sure Jacobs will get fined. Then he’ll be punished an all will be “fair”, right? I really don’t see why it’s such an issue. A bunch of players got into it, there was 1 penalty, and it didn’t really effect the game in any meaningful way. Maybe from a ‘skins fan’s perspective it means a whole lot, but i’m sure if you ask any Redskins player, the last thing they’d be whining about is how its “not fair” that Jacobs didn’t get a penalty.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

He probably will

and that makes sense. But I’m not sure why you think it doesn’t matter at all – it just makes the refs look bad. Like they weren’t paying any attention since EVERYBODY saw Jacobs throwing multiple punches. It has nothing to do with a Skins fan perspective since it obviously had no impact on the game – it’s just like watching an awful blown call in any sport – it just looks bad. And if you asked them about that specific play you don’t think they’d say it was ridiculous that Jacobs didn’t get a penalty??? haha come on man! Every skins player on the field was going crazy and arguing with the refs after that.

by O'sFan21 on Dec 22, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it wasnt a bad non-call

and huge shocker, the refs aren’t very good. Sure, it’s worth a mention, but it isn’t like it changed anything. If you want to use it as an argument to get better refs or more replay or whatever, great, but there have been much worse offenses by the refs that you can point out than that. And I didnt say the skins wouldnt say he should have gotten a penalty. I said that the last thing thats probably on their minds right now is that non-call. It didn’t change anything important. Sure, maybe it was unfair, but if it didnt cost them the game do you really think they are going to lose sleep over it or whine about it all day? It was a missed call that didnt effect anything. Unfortunately it happens all the time, but thats sports.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t using it as an argument for anything. Just saying that it was RIDICULOUS that Jacobs didn’t get a penalty and that it’s not something that doesn’t matter at all. Not sure why you thought I was saying anything else.

by O'sFan21 on Dec 22, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG

It’s so embarrassing. I don’t even care about either of the teams, but I find it kind of hard to watch any team get so thoroughly embarrassed.

by Stacey on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Same, I mean I do dislike the Skins

but I can’t even make fun of them at this point, it’s just too pathetic.

by O Nina on Dec 21, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure you can

you just aren’t trying hard enough.

by daveh873 on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually it's overwhelming

There’s too much material to work with to come up with a witty, coherent insult. Do I go with the “swing gate?” The not being able to get an extra point(s) on either TD? Campbell throwing the ball directly at Terrell Thomas, as if to say, “Here, have a touchdown?” The fight? Yarrrrggghhh!

by O Nina on Dec 21, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't see it....

…but as bad as it sounds like it was, i’m giddy with happiness that cerrato is gone. FINALLY.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Dec 22, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

definitely the swing gate

I believe that was the worst play i’ve ever seen in the NFL. If you’re really going to throw it at that point, just line em up with your qb under center. Doing that crap 2 times in a row was pure hilarity.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

:(

had to turn it off midway through the 2nd quarter. pathetic.

by Steve. on Dec 21, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I like football again!

First the St. Petersburg bowl, now this.
Fantasy football, however, stresses me the hell out.

by daveh873 on Dec 21, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

don't get too excited

odds are still great that the Giants will be watching the playoffs just like the Skins in a few weeks – just with a worse draft pick (and their pride of course lol).

by O'sFan21 on Dec 22, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats ok

they swept the skins and the cowboys this season, still have a chance at the playoffs, RU won another bowl game, and i’m in the championshp game in fantasy in my first year of actually ever playing in a draft league. Sure it’s been a crappy year of Giants football overall, but I dont expect them to win the SB every year. Shit happens. They still have a shot, which is all I can really ask for.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I like the RU thrown in there – what the hell bowl game were they in??? Obviously a meaningful one since they’ve already played it…

by O'sFan21 on Dec 22, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

St Petersburg

and yea, when your team goes to 1 bowl game in its existance and then goes to 5 straight and wins 4 straight, its a pretty big deal. But feel free to keep trying to shit on anything that I enjoy. Ya gotta get your kicks somehow, right?

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand

I mean, i’m an O’s fan too. If all my favorite teams sucked, i’d probably be bitter as well. Luckily, the O’s are the only team I root for that is consistently horrible. Unluckily, they are my favorite team.

by daveh873 on Dec 22, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey if you like them who cares?

I was excited when Speed Regime won in the playoffs for the Charm City Roller girls. Finally I picked a winner!

by Stacey on Dec 22, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

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