Former Oriole Roberto Alomar has "full-blown AIDS" according to ex-girlfriend

by SC on Feb 11, 2009 11:33 AM EST in News Comment 60 comments

It's all over the place, and since Robbie was an O for a few years, it's worth discussing here, too. Otherwise I'd kind of keep my nose out of it for fear of it turning into anything like the mouth breathers on the Yahoo comment page.

In short: 31-year old Ilya Dall has sued Alomar for having unprotected sex with her, or something of that nature, and claims that the potential Hall of Famer has "full-blown AIDS," and describes watching his health deteriorate for the three years they lived together.

In papers filed in state and federal court, Dall said Alomar finally got tested in January 2006 while suffering from a cough, fatigue and shingles.

"The test results of him being HIV-positive was given to him and the plaintiff on or about Feb.6, 2006," the $15 million negligence suit says.

Nine days later, the couple went to see a disease specialist who discovered a mass in the retired second baseman's chest, the court papers say.

Alomar's skin had turned purple, he was foaming at the mouth and a spinal tap "showed he had full-blown AIDS," the suit says.

Alomar's lawyer says the former star is healthy and "would like to keep his health status private."

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As Stacey pointed out - read the link at the bottom for more disturbing info.

Raped by two Mexicans when he was 17?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 11, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Here’s a link to the original story

It sounds to me like he had rabies.

ZAUN! ZAAAAAAAUN!

"I understand that it's a big-boy world and I have to move on."

by CoachOfEarl on Feb 11, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I hate this story

It’s terrible no matter how you look at it, whether it’s true or not.

I’m taking Alomar’s side, but only because in the story’s picture that bitch was wearing one of those ugly Ed Hardy shirts.

by brooksflow on Feb 11, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Who or what is Ed Hardy?

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Feb 11, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Consider yourself lucky

I wouldn’t pay 85 bucks for a t-shirt either.

by brooksflow on Feb 11, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's the beauty of the whole thing...

Cosmic justice. The more you spend, the bigger the douche bag you look. Not only are you getting stupider, but also poorer. The world is just.

by salvotion on Feb 11, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+190,000

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Feb 11, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ed Hardy is a tattoo artist

That someone, somewhere decided was edgy enough that his tattoos should be on t-shirts for douchebags too afraid to get themselves inked. Those t-shirts should also cost near $100, because no doubt every collar-poppin’ Abercrombie graduate will want something a little more bad-ass to go with their perennial 12 o’clock shadow.

Give it 3-4 months, they’ll disappear. They’re gaudy as all hell. Then again, women still wear sweatpants with giant lettering on the ass…

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Feb 11, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I see somewhere wearing him everywhere I go in LA

and every department store has an Ed Hardy display

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Feb 11, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Which means....

I’ll start seeing them in Salisbury in about 7 years.

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by duck on Feb 11, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was going to make the same comment

It takes a special type of nutjob to wear Ed Hardy

"This world extends way beyond this little field of dreams we're dancing in and I want to see that world"

by exitfare on Feb 11, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I just noticed that the source of her photo is "Facebook.com"

by PhilR8 on Feb 11, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Alomar

I hope he really dont have aids .he was a great polayer that ran out of juice
early SO.————-who,s to know.

by hagers on Feb 11, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hey there

BPG refugee. :-)

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Feb 12, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh.

No matter what the truth of the matter is this is just a sad story all around. Wishing Alomar the best.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Feb 11, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hope It's Bogus Too

I’m a Royals fan, but I always thought Alomar was an outstanding player and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. That said, if he did expose her to AIDS because he refused to get an AIDS test despite doctor’s recommendations (and it appears from the court documentation that he did) then he deserves to get sued for $15 million. That’s just flat-out irresponsible, borderline sociopathic not to get checked if he was experiencing those symptoms.

As for the charges themselves…hate to say it but they sound pretty credible the way the court papers laid it out. And the fact that his lawyer wouldn’t refute that he has it doesn’t help…if the story was bogus, the attorney would have immediately said “No, my client does not have AIDS”, not “My client wishes to keep his health status private”.

Something weird about this, though, is that this is a huge story on CNN, Fox, Yahoo, etc and yet ESPN has yet to put out a piece on it. Not even a breaking news banner. What’s up with that?

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

the ESPN non-comment thing is weird. Maybe the WWL is too squeamish for AIDS? Maybe they’re going all-steroids all the time? I don’t get it.

by pipkin on Feb 11, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or Maybe

That contract with MLB somehow factors in. They’ve got the biggest deal with Major League Baseball of any network. Could MLB be pushing them to quash their coverage of this story?

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't doubt it

ESPN is pretty well known for having severe conflicts of interest. Now that they own a stake in the Arena League they all of a sudden cover it on SportsCenter.

Then again, FOX has the WS. Yet they’re talking about it.

by pipkin on Feb 11, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The worst is when they hype up women's college basketball

Specifically women’s March Madness. I don’t want to stray into anything misogynistic here, but I find it really hard to believe that anyone gets as excited about women’s college BB as ESPN pretends that they do.

Oh, and ESPN is the exclusive home of the women’s tournament. Huh.

by PhilR8 on Feb 11, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This should be news!

A Royals Fan!

I really wish they start kicking the whitesox and twins assess

by merdon1332000 on Feb 11, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ditto :)

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is completely off topic

but didn’t you write the post that absolutely killed Chris Mortensen. That was great stuff. I love Arrowhead Pride.

by jobe on Feb 11, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I Did

Glad you liked it…thanks. :) Mort really pissed me off with his b.s. Shanahan story and ESPN pissed me off even more by refusing to admit the story was complete b.s. even though Mort’s own sources disavowed saying what he claimed they said. I can’t stand fabricating reporters and Mort’s a repeat offender and has been for a long time.

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 12, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think ESPN's

a repeat offender of giving horrible NFL coverage. FOX, CBS, and ESPN are all just so unbearable to watch. They never tell me anything I don’t already know, and they couldn’t respect the intelligence of their audience any less.

by jobe on Feb 12, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's Sad When...

…the most accurate reporting you’re going to get from ESPN on the NFL comes from their fantasy football writers. Although that’s probably a little unfair. Darren Woodson and Michael Smith are both excellent reporters and analysts. It’s just that ESPN doesn’t highlight them on their NFL coverage shows like so many of the idiots they’ve got now (Emmitt, Keyshawn, Berman, Emmitt…I mention Emmitt twice because he’s so incompetent and verbally illiterate that he deserves twice the criticism). They even screwed up MNF by turning it into the Tony Kornheiser show when they’ve got a great color guy in Jaworski already in the booth…I’d rather listen to Theismann than Kornheiser (and I couldn’t stand Theismann). Hell, I’d rather drink Drain-O than listen to Kornheiser.

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 13, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

I want to reserve judgment one way or the other at this point. It’s kind of like in divorce proceedings, plenty of accusations get made, and it’s hard to know what’s true and what’s not. We’ll probably know more in time.

Personally, I would not have unprotected sex with someone who was purple and foaming at the mouth, no matter how nicely they asked me. Unless perhaps it was one of those alien hotties Capt. Kirk was always getting it on with in Star Trek. Even then, the foaming mouth thing would be hard to get past.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Feb 12, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but what if

yknowwhatnevermind.

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"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."

by SC on Feb 12, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

haha

by pipkin on Feb 12, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't get over

how the term “full-blown AIDS” is being repeated at every media outlet. Is this the actual medical term? Have I listened to so much Jim Norton that the term has lost all meaning?

by PhilR8 on Feb 11, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The Lawsuit Said

That a mass was detected in his chest and that he’d shown visible signs of having AIDS…that’s full-blown AIDS. As opposed to a situation like Magic Johnson where he’s just HIV-positive because he’s asymptomatic but still has the virus.

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So "Full-Blown AIDS"

That’s the term in common usage to describe a person with advanced AIDS.

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

there was a family guy song about it

it must be true!

by pipkin on Feb 11, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought fuill-blown aids is when the virus is attacking the body. With HIV posiitve, the virus is lying dormant.

"fuck the Yankees and fuck the Red Sox and all their players and fans and former players and fans and their loved ones and pets as well!" sickuvitall

by birdman on Feb 11, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I Don't Think So

The way I understand it, someone’s HIV-positive whether the virus is dormant or active. Full-blown AIDS is the aftermath…the stuff that’s brought on when HIV’s destroying the body (the collection of symptoms and diseases the body’s showing outwardly after the immune system’s been heavily compromised). Stuff like toxoplasmosis and weird cancers and lesions.

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Per Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 11, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I stand corrected although wikipedia isn’t exactly reliable.

"fuck the Yankees and fuck the Red Sox and all their players and fans and former players and fans and their loved ones and pets as well!" sickuvitall

by birdman on Feb 12, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

http://news.cnet.com/Study-Wikipedia-as-accurate-as-Britannica/2100-1038_3-5997332.html

by PhilR8 on Feb 12, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i thought of that

i’m glad you posted it

by pipkin on Feb 13, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s pretty damn interesting. I would want to know a little more about the sampling procedure, but I believe Nature is a reputable source. In any case, 2.92 mistakes per article for Britannica versus 3.86 for Wikipedia suggests both sources aren’t terribly reliable. So Briannica is worse than you think while Wiki is actually better than you would think.

"fuck the Yankees and fuck the Red Sox and all their players and fans and former players and fans and their loved ones and pets as well!" sickuvitall

by birdman on Feb 13, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also

The cynic might point out that Britannica, as a for-profit Encyclopedia that has had trouble remaining profitable and has, over the past few years, engaged in cost-cutting measures that may impact future submissions and edits, may not be an appropriate measure of “accuracy” since its relevance has faded considerably in recent years. It seems to me that for all intents and purposes Wikipedia has supplanted Britannica as the go-to cursory research tool, even if some teachers hate it although, in my experience, at the university level most professors like/love wikipedia as an introductory reference tool. Personally I think it’s fine for reference, but for citations one would be better served to follow the links at the bottom of the wikipedia page to peer-reviewed scholarly papers about the subject. But as far as cramming for a 101 test, wikipedia is fine.

by PhilR8 on Feb 13, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

at the university level most professors like/love wikipedia as an introductory reference tool.

At someone who works at a university, this is not the case in my experience. Professors hate wikipedia.

"fuck the Yankees and fuck the Red Sox and all their players and fans and former players and fans and their loved ones and pets as well!" sickuvitall

by birdman on Feb 13, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I also work at a university

and for the most part, my experience is the opposite. But then again, I only directly deal with a single department, so the culture of another department may be different.

by PhilR8 on Feb 14, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

excellent Jim Norton reference..."monster rain"

by wiggitywhales on Feb 12, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Everything about this is just sad

He was one of my favorite players back when I first started becoming an O’s fan. These allegations are horrible. I’m not really sure what to think.

by Steve. on Feb 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Looks like Alomar is denying the reports

From ESPN of all places:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3900719

by brooksflow on Feb 11, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Actually

If you look at what he said, he just claimed he wasn’t “ill”. He never actually denied he had HIV or AIDS. Neither did his lawyer. If he really wasn’t HIV-positive that’s the first thing you’d expect from the attorney, because that’s the fastest way to shoot the whole story down and end it.

I have absolutely no idea who the Chiefs will draft or sign in free agency and anyone who thinks that they know is talking out of their fourth point of contact.

All I know is that the Chiefs are going to field a better team in 2009. Prediction of team record will be submitted after the 2009 draft.

by UCrawford on Feb 12, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If this is false

What lawyer would agree to file the suit? Unless you’re getting your fees upfront what is the upshot? Maybe they give her 500k to go away and you get a cut of that?

I dunno, I’m no lawyer. Somebody should ask Shysterball.

by pipkin on Feb 11, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I can't get over how weird this is

On one hand, you’ve got Roberto and Sandy Sr. being all, “everything is fine! Healthy as a horse!” and you’ve got this chick on the other hand. I feel like if he isn’t HIV-positive it’d be pretty easy to prove so why do this if it’s not true. I also bristle at, “Alomar demanded unprotected sex with her despite showing obvious signs of AIDS.” Um, he can demand all he wants, sweetheart, but if he is showing “obvious” signs of AIDs, you don’t have sex with him! Duh.

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by Stacey on Feb 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That is the curious part

How does she plan to get around an assumption of the risk argument? I am envisioning some kind of parallel scenario in which we have Guy X talking to Girl A. X has a mouthful of herpes sores. A knows this. X says: “kiss me now.” A says “I dunno. You’ve got a whole lot of herpes right there.” X says “Kiss me, goddamnit.” A: “Ok, ok. Don’t get your cold sores in a tizzy.” Who is going to have sympathy if A gets herpes?

And that, ladies and gentlemen, will conclude this week’s episode of “X Gives A Herpes: A Love Story.” Stay tuned next time for “X Gives A Gonorrhea” and, the always popular, “X Gives A Ebola.” Until next time.

by salvotion on Feb 12, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

uh oh

I sat on his knee at when i was younger at fan fest lol

by Michael18 on Feb 11, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

if true...

unfortunate on several levels, but also, the o’s would then potentially have TWO former second basemen felled by the AIDS virus? yeesh. the story of allan wiggins is a pretty sad one, too.

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by j.q. higgins on Feb 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know Alan Wiggins was an Oriole

I was just reading about him in Men At Work. His basestealing helped protect Tony Gwynn in the lineup.

by jobe on Feb 12, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not to be an ass

But wouldn’t this story have been juicier if Alomar had contracted the virus from a needle?

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Feb 12, 2009 7:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs