KaBOOM!: A-Rod tested positive in 2003
by dkdc on Feb 7, 2009 11:04 AM EST
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/?eref=sircrc
In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.
Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball's '03 survey testing, SI's sources say. As part of a joint agreement with the MLB Players Association, the testing was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.
Editor's note by SC:
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This is retarded
What a tool.
WHat the hell is baseball supposed to do? I actually hope that A-Rod doesn’t get the HR record now. If we’re gonna have a steroid user hold that record, it needs to be Bonds. He did the most steroids in the history of steroid taking. If A-Rod gets that record, it would just be so….gray. Because he probably took steroids on a limited basis and only for a limited time.
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by the fix is in on Feb 7, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Without steroids, A Rod is Brandon Fahey
I’m am so deeply disillusioned by this.
It’s like finding out that Dick Cheney is really a war criminal.
by Fred Sanford on Feb 7, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did Kissinger tell you about Cheney? C'mon, out with it-- or it's off to Gitmo and we find out there!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Feb 7, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kissinger couldn't hit a curveball
so he too became a war criminal.
Sad, really. I think he would have been a monster DH.
by Fred Sanford on Feb 7, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if Brandon Fahey had shown some initiative....
..he could be dating madonna now
(and be under investigation).
by mpire on Feb 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
jesus
I did not need this on a hungover saturday. not at all. not at all.
I’m with Fred. disillusioned. I know I should expect anything. But ARod? He’s supposed to be this natural talent! just like Bonds was…and he did get a lot thicker…dammit all.
by pipkin on Feb 7, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i just realized Fred was joking
I need to drink less
by pipkin on Feb 7, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am shocked,
SHOCKED to find that gambling is going on in here!
by zknower on Feb 7, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1!
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."
--Jerry Reed, on acting
by j.q. higgins on Feb 7, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
outstanding
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 7, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m shocked(!) that this info leaked from a government agency. Anyone who is surprised about ARod and roids is a naive boob. I think the circus should extend and include going after the parties guilty of leaking this confidential information.
The steroid pumped NFL is sitting on the side laughing while MLB bumbles with its steroid image. Oh, and the HOF voters wring their hands over the purity of the game. Just admit the HOF is a museum and nothing more, then put these guys into the “steroids” era. The next batch of guys can go in under whatever drug enhanced era is going now or is soon to come.
by drj on Feb 9, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I don’t think I can tale Canseco getting any more credible.
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by daveh873 on Feb 7, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A*ROD
(first!!!!!!)
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on Feb 7, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well done, A-Roid was what I came up with, yours is more original.
by math_geek on Feb 7, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
New York Post is going with "A-Roid" in 96 pt type.
The NY Times doesn’t do ironic nicknames, has a nice set of bar graphs within their Rodriguez story showing home run leaders from inside and outside their so called “steroids era”.
The title on the graphs is “The Homer Files” Maybe this is as close to an ironic nickname for A*Rod as they can get.
by typozzz on Feb 8, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice avatar.
Zeebas!
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by OEutaw on Feb 9, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is like Christmas morning!!
Hopefully he’s being comforted by some of the “she-male types” that he is so fond of…
by O'sFan21 on Feb 7, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A*ROD TSHIRTS In 10, 9, 8 ........
Yes, I should say that, which, I should say that.
by thewaywardO on Feb 7, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
make 'em yourself!
go to cafepress, and i bet you’ll have netted $1000 within a week or two.
by zknower on Feb 7, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh man
now we’re never going to hear the end of steroids. I mean, not that we were going to anyway, but this really seals the deal. Ugh.
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by Stacey on Feb 7, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this is what i'm saying
I just want to watch baseball! happy funtime baseball!
by pipkin on Feb 7, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by duck on Feb 7, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean I don't like A-Rod and all
but real, actual baseball talk is going to be few and far between for a while here.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
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by jobe on Feb 7, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Self-Abuse Quiz: Canseco, Sid, A*Rod-- of these Three Stooges of MLB, which one has always been steroid free?
Yep, Curly Sid. That’s how low we’ve sunk: Sid and his roommates, Johnnie Walker and Jim Beam, may now be considered better role models than this generation’s Mr. Baseball.
Cheez Whiz, people…
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by Titov on Feb 7, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Damnit
I was always passively rooting for him to break the all-time HR record because I thought he was clean.
At this point I should probably just stop caring who’s clean and who’s not, because it’s pretty clear that the “clean” players are few and far between.
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by CStoneNo37 on Feb 7, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to see someone hit 800
he was our best hope. Now its gonna be 800*
oh well
by pipkin on Feb 7, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Albert hasn't failed a test yet
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 7, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same thought here
I guess I fell for the “Well, at least A-Rod will be in the hunt and he’s clean” theme that seemed to be in the baseball media around the time Bonds broke the record. Guess that’s not the case any more. Oh well.
Can’t say that I can summon up any sympathy for a guy making 25 mill a year.
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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 7, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was never convinced he was clean
I never quite assumed he was dirty, either, but basically whenever I see a player, any player, performing at a high level (particularly knocking HR’s like he does) I wonder. I have to wonder. I just wish baseball would get serious about this, out of respect for its own history and for the players in that history who did incredible things without benefit of chemicals.
That said, I’m with O’sfan21. This is pretty much a wonderful day for me. Ever since I watched him slap the ball out of Bronson Arroyo’s glove in the 2004 ALCS (and then give that insufferable, “Who, me?” shrug) I knew he was willing to cheat. I was happy when he got caught then and I’m happier now.
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by Fear and Trembley on Feb 7, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"really? i can’t believe this.. i never suspected it at all… "**
**this is what i would have said had i not suspected it all along.
What up?
by snakethejake on Feb 7, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
O's on the list of 104?
104 players tested positive from the “anonymous” tests done in 2003. You have to figure a current Oriole or two is on there. Those names are going to be released eventually.
by UMterp08 on Feb 7, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I got a feeling
a majority of these names arent in the Mitchell report.
Someone has the whole damn list, just post the thing and lets get it done before the season.
by sanders833 on Feb 7, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many current Orioles were in the majors in 2003?
Roberts, Huff, Mora, Baez, Walker?
Roberts we already know about, Mora I’ve long suspected, and I don’t care about the other three.
by dkdc on Feb 7, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we really convinced...
That CURRENT players are not chemically enhanced in some way? This whole argument is CRAZY. American sports fans do not care if the athletes are on steroids. If they did, then the Olympic policy on drugs would be the standard and would be enforced. My students and I did some in depth research into the drug policies of all the major American sports (NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL). NONE of the policies banned enough steroids or steroid-derivatives to be effective. Steroid derivatives are substances that allow your body to produce extra amounts of “natural” substances. MLB and NHL policies are so vague that AT LEAST 50% of the athletes are taking some form of steroids LEGALLY! In an ironic twist of fate, the minor leagues have a stricter policy than the major leagues (that may have changed with the last bargaining agreement). I feel that this was one way of preventing young talent from breaking into the major leagues.
The fans keep coming to see the enhanced athletes play, wear their jerseys, and root for them. Honestly, do we really care if it’s a “fair playing field”? Professional athletes should not be blamed for performing at a high level legally. Yes, these drugs are bad, but they were LEGALLY taking them. We love winning and winners at all costs. We root for underdogs to beat the favorites. We root for the Orioles to not suck.
I am over arguing if some record is legitimate… they played the game, the numbers stand. What I am most concerned about is the estimated (2000 numbers) 10% of high school athletes that admitted to taking some form a performance enhancing drugs. These amateur athletes are being shown the way by their well-compensated counterparts. I know it’s clique, but clean up the games for the health of the athletes and the children. That’s the ONLY argument that makes any sense.
So, the real question is do we as fans care enough to change the policy to the Olympic standard? My guess is no, so we should stop pretending we are outraged. Either care and encourage change or stop talking about it.
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by Birdland in NC on Feb 8, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Olympic standard
I would love if MLB instituted IOC testing. I would love it if there were testing done at the end of each homestand for every team.
I think the problem is the public is mainly at the will of the player union and the owners. The players union doesn’t want any form of testing and the owners don’t want the game to be embarrassed any more than it already is. So I don’t really think either side wants tough testing. But I would love to have some faith that the next time big numbers 755 and 61 are being attacked, the hitter is actually clean. Call me naive I guess. And of course, I love the game so much that I’m going to watch whether they institute some real policy or not.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Feb 8, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BP just went over this
The suppliers (“black hats”) are SO far ahead of the testers it isn’t funny. Here’s a small excerpt so we don’t get sued (fair use and all):
The meal was over, and neither of us were dawdlers. I had covered everything I’d hoped to and more in the hour I had. “So let me sum this up: You’ve got a drug [SARMs] that’s as effective as anything you’ve ever had in your arsenal. It’s undetectable, has no side effects, and only a few people have access to it.”
He nodded and smiled. “Yes, and you know that insulin and IGF are in that arsenal too. IGF has been available on the black market for over a decade. Insulin is available at Walgreens.”
“In other words, it’s going to be a good year for the black hats?”
He laughed again. “The black hats always have a good year!”
It’s NOT behind their firewall, so go do yourself a favor and read the whole thing here.
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by duck on Feb 8, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what a tiresome, bullshit, strawman argument
American sports fans do not care if the athletes are on steroids. If they did, then the Olympic policy on drugs would be the standard and would be enforced.
American sports fans have no say in which policies are enforced. That’s entirely negotiated between players unions, owners, and league commisioners, all of whom have much to lose every time a particular sport is embarrassed, so it’s much easier for them to go slowly or stand pat.
The fans keep coming to see the enhanced athletes play, wear their jerseys, and root for them. Honestly, do we really care if it’s a "fair playing field"?
Yes, or anyway, a lot of us do. We don’t come specifically to see “enhanced athletes”, we come to watch a game we love and tolerate/put up with the enhanced athletes. Of course there are a lot of people out there who will specifically go see Bonds play, but there are also a lot (myself included) who are repulsed by the man and would specifically choose another game. You can’t generalize all American sports fans based on the behavior of some of them.
So, the real question is do we as fans care enough to change the policy to the Olympic standard? My guess is no, so we should stop pretending we are outraged. Either care and encourage change or stop talking about it.
It’s not pretending. The rampant drug use is outrageous. It’s pathetic that we constantly hear defenses like “everyone else is doing it”. As if that somehow excuses it. It’s pathetic that people think Roger Clemens shouldn’t have to answer for lying to his teammates, the game’s officials, Congress, and the American people for the past decade. It’s pathetic that people defend records achieved in violation of the sport’s rules as being akin to those which were broken by people who followed those rules.
More than anything, the drug problem in professional sports shows us just how low people are willing to sink in abdicating any shred of responsibility or personal accountability.
by zknower on Feb 8, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some responses...
American sports fans have no say in which policies are enforced.
We absolutely do! Sports are entertainment, and if we quit supporting the teams/players that are causing the problems, then the culture changes. Go ahead and BOO A*Rod, and whoever else (yes, even orioles) who are juicing. My point is this… we don’t. These guys have said, “I’m sorry” and moved on. The fans have too… this just wouldn’t happen as often if people were actually punished for the crime. Your response proves my point… the owners care about money… the fans provide that.
We don’t come specifically to see "enhanced athletes"
Ignore Bonds for a second (although I admire you for choosing another team), what two events dramatically increased popularity in baseball after the last work stoppage? Cal’s streak and the home run chase by McGwire and Sosa. Nothing has tarnished Cal’s streak, but all the main players in the home run drama were on steroids. McGwire even used the argument that a steroid derivative was legal, therefore no harm.. he was RIGHT!
The fans/media fawned over these guys (sold papers and TV spots), and the rest of the baseball world took notice… juice or get passed by. “Everyone’s doing it” is not a simplistic argument when you are talking the amount of money these guys make vs. not playing at all.
As a side note these same media guys aren’t voting for McGwire for the HoF… kind of sleazy, no?
It’s not pretending. The rampant drug use is outrageous.
I am not saying you personally aren’t outraged. I believe you! But my argument is that sometimes you need to go ahead and let the stars of your game fall, risk everything for what is right. The best modern example is cycling. They kicked countless riders out of the Tour de France and risked their sport being basically abolished to clean it up. Baseball needs to be as daring. I hope they are, but I am afraid we need more people like Z to support “running the bums out”. That’s why I have always supported the Orioles, but I never cared whether we traded BRob or not. He admitted too being involved in this whole mess.
My last point is this. Do NOT ostracize players and records achieved during the steroid era by saying “this was bad, illegal even” when baseball KNEW these players were juicing and condoned it. They didn’t even have some of these drugs on the banned substance list! Every player had access to these drugs, there was no good testing policy in place, and the numbers were what people were paying for. The players were just keeping pace.
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by Birdland in NC on Feb 8, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh...
I don’t know that we have the choice, though. Our choices are either (a) accept the bad with the good, or (b) lose the sport altogether. I think choice B is more cutting off our nose to spite our face, as most fanatical fans (and nearly all casual ones) wouldn’t dream of cutting baseball out of their lives to try to force MLB’s hand on the cheaters.
If I could designate my ticket concessions go only to the legit segments of MLB, I would. But I can’t. I’m also not going to stop going to Orioles games because A-Rod’s a phony. Far as I can tell, I’m the one suffering in that arrangement.
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by OEutaw on Feb 9, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
104-10 (balco testimony)
94 names on the PED list, 94 names on the list…
take one down, knock it around
93 names on the PED list….
104 postives out of how many tested…700, 500, 300…??
How can FOUR sources confirm Arod is on the list….FOUR???
I am not excusing Arod but good lord can anybody keep a damn secret when they have a sworn duty to do so?
Apparently there is another Kirk Radomski character floating around that supplied the Latino players…and I suspect everyone knows his name. That should be fun. Not.
Anyone think David Ortiz might be breaking down on cue….could Manny be on the list?
Screw it, Andy sign me Pedro,,,,ugh well maybe not? I have to really think about this one now.
by sanders833 on Feb 8, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell already targeted the O's clubhouse
I’m guessing they already caught most of the Orioles that were there to be caught. Maybe there will be one or two, but, frankly, our team has sucked so much since then that I’d be surprised if there were a whole lot more.
Mitchel wouldn’t finger any Red Sox though; I’m guessing there are some big names in there that could fall. Like the whole 2004 Championship team. How sweet would that be?
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by spike2131 on Feb 8, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gee, I always wondered why George Mitchell...
who’s on the Board of Directors and a part owner of the Red Sox, couldn’t find any members of PHN to finger. Hmmm…….
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by duck on Feb 8, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well we just signed a few new ones-Wiggy, Issy, Zaun
Huff did have a noticeable falloff before last year…
Two names I have always suspected. Esteban Loaiza and his 20 games season out of nowhere and a guy who just seem to fade to nothing-Shawn Green.
by sanders833 on Feb 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
a fraud indeed
I guess I should’ve suspected that purple lips are side effect of steroid use. That should’ve given it away. You really do have to wonder when exactly he started juicing. Claiming that he hasn’t tested positive since is so meaningless since there seem to be effective hiding agents. That’s kind of what makes the 2003 positive test all the more incomprehensible.
This is kind of a bummer though, the damage that occurred during the tenures of Selig and Orza won’t be known for a long a time. Definite shame.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Feb 8, 2009 3:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anonymous tests...
Well, before 2003 the players had no reason to look into masking agents. The tests were to be anonymous – maybe the players didn’t see a need to look into masking agents when they believed that a test failure could never be traced to them. If MLB has this list, they should leak the whole thing instead of having it come out piece by piece. If they leaked the whole thing, we could make our judgments of the players involved and then move on.
by uneasy rider on Feb 8, 2009 7:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
masking agents
I guess what I don’t understand is if the deal was that no testing program/punishment would be administered if the results were less than 5%, then why wouldn’t the users be sure to either not use before the tests or use a masking agent, if only to make it easier for them to use down the road?
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Feb 8, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The reaction to this is getting kind of silly
I feel pretty confident that much like in football, a large percentage of baseball players steroids and have done so for quite some time. In fact, I bet a decent number of Hall of Famers juiced – Reggie Jackson, I’m looking at you. Perhaps even some beloved Orioles greats whose names shall go unmentioned.
Steroid-using athletes have dominated sports for more than a generation now. It’s just the price of doing business. It’s not shocking that steroid-using athletes dominate baseball as well. At this point, why would anyone assume that a player hasn’t juiced?
There is this ridiculous column in the New York Times that says something to the effect that the Yankees are the biggest suckers in the world because they signed A-Rod to a long-term contract. Now that contract may be a suckers deal, but that has nothing to do with his steroid use. The fact that he tested positive for steroids in 2003 doesn’t change that he’s pretty much the best player in baseball. It’s not like he’s going to suck from now on just because he’s been caught.
by yurizanow on Feb 8, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed about the Yankee article. However....
…it’s not at all silly to call these people out on their BS.
Whatever your position on whether steroids should have been allowed, or should have been tested for, etc., there should be no doubt that you have to call out the liars on their lies.
When A*Rod does an interview with Katie Couric and flat out, unequivocally denies ever having taken steroids, and then it is proven that he did, it IS news, it SHOULD be reported, and he should absolutely suffer the consequences.
We have to retreat from this “lying is an acceptable everyday norm” of recent years.
by zknower on Feb 8, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny...
It’s funny how back when Raffy tested positive some Oriole fans were all about presumption of innocence, but that same presumption apparently doesn’t extend to A-Rod. I mean come on folks, what happened to all the hilarious theories about how maybe the steroids came from a GNC supplement or a Jamba Juice? Or maybe he just got a B-12 shot from Tejada?
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by rebop on Feb 8, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
iirc
I totally thought Raffy did it.
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by duck on Feb 8, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Raffy was accused...
of using HORSE steroids. How could you even make that up if it wasn’t true? He barely even defended himself, and just went away.
How could he be doing his job when he didn't throw me out of the game after the things I called him?
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by Birdland in NC on Feb 8, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Horse steroids
would totally explain the mustache he rocked…
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by duck on Feb 8, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here they are....
In all their splendor!
How could he be doing his job when he didn't throw me out of the game after the things I called him?
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by Birdland in NC on Feb 8, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That effing season
It’s so weird to think that we had Sammy Sosa on our roster. And that we were in 1st place heading into the summer.
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by birdman on Feb 9, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was never a "true Oriole"
Kidding, of course, but I still kinda feel that way anyway.
by PhilR8 on Feb 9, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We tried cheating...
…and we weren’t particularly successful at that either. Oh the futility.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Feb 9, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can still get horse steroids fairly easily, for human use
all you need is some friend to say “yes, that man, that man right there, he does own a horse” to a company.
I’d have to guess that’s like the ghetto version of steroids though. But I know that people without connections can still go the horse-route.
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by the fix is in on Feb 8, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
watch that interview
as he answers the first question-his lips give a noticable twitch….he regroups on the second question. I remember that the first time I saw the interview and now it seems like a tell….
by sanders833 on Feb 8, 2009 12:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah I was thinking that
but I thought it the day I saw it and now-boom goes the dynamite…
by sanders833 on Feb 8, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Suck it, A-Fraud
“Suck it long, and suck it hard”
-Sean Connery, Celebrity Jeopardy.
by MurraysLaw on Feb 8, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Why don't you give me ....
Ape Tit for $100?…"
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/210353b310/celebrity-jeopardy-from-nino
Alex Tribeck: “This is the sound a doggie makes.”
Sean Connery: “Moo.”
Alex: “No.”
Sean: “Well, that’s the sound YOUR MOTHER made last night!” AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….
==
Alex: “We would have taken ‘bow wow’ or ‘ruff’. "
Sean: "Ah, rough? Just the way your mother likes it, Tribeck…”
Classic stuff.
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by duck on Feb 8, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“I’ll have THE RAPISTS for $500, Alex.”
“That’s THERAPISTS, Mr. Connery.”
by zknower on Feb 8, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious
I’m trying to be sensitive to the fact that during the “steroid era” (which I’d have to say is still ongoing) Selig and the owners were/are as guilty as the players. I know that when information like this gets out, it tends to be the specific players named who take the heat and that’s not completely fair. Baseball let it go on, even encouraged it, because everyone was making money so nobody was in a position to complain.
But I’m curious — given that fans buy the $160 jerseys and thirty dollar hats and several-hundred to several-thousand dollar season ticket packages, don’t you feel that the fans have a right to see the other 103 names on that list? That we deserve to know the truth about the integrity of the game into which we so loyally sink our money?
"This ain't a football game. We do this every day."
by Fear and Trembley on Feb 8, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
legally no
but yeah as fans we do.
I will say, its not going to change my attitude on baseball. I played baseball as a kid. I wasnt juiced, I play it and watch it because I love the game. Why I would take my children, neices or nephews, why I love fantasy baseball, why I love to pull out my old baseball cards, posters, pictures and sometimes just look at the players and memories that are evoked. Why not happens in 1989, Orioles magic in 1979…how a team can legitimize a town in 1966, break their heart in 69, 71 and 79. How I can talk my Dad into going to see Al Kaline’s 3,000 hit or show up at a random game and catch Kevin Millwood’s no hitter or watch Albert Belle turn his back on fans after three homers and actually cheering the pitcher who plucked him later. Its love and hate, sillyiness, passion and the unexpected. How as a kid, I sent a letter to Don Larson asking for his autograph and being the simpleton I was said he must have been pretty bad to have a 3-18 season. He sent me his signature on a 3 by 5 index card, his postage with the neatest signature you have ever seen. When I was at Towson in 1982, as a marketing project my group decided a decaffiented cola product would be a new product we would try to introduce. I sent Danny Ainge, a Mormon, a letter in care of the Toronto Blue Jays asking if he would use or endorse this project. Ainge, who was my age, sent me back a one page hand written letter explaining what the rules were for Mormons, that he would consider using and endorsing the product. Its one of my favorite pieces of memorabilia.
But it has changed, continues to change and now the Hall is not even going to have its all time hits leader, homer leaders, best pitchers, 3000 hit/600 homer guys. Still read Ball Four and read about rampant amphetamine use in most clubhouses. You dont hear those “old” players talking about that cause it would ruin their legacy. And the biggest issue with numbers is that racism really makes numbers farcical pre 1950.
Yet I will still care about it with my eyes wide open, I still open my baseball encylopedia and look at the stats sometimes and baseball stretches out over the last century and its part of me. Just like Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, Ted Nugent or whoever was important to you. Its not my place to tell someone else who is important or overrated. If it moves your soul, that is all that matters.
by sanders833 on Feb 8, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
nice story about Ainge and post in general
n/t
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Feb 9, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In other words
I should have said above, “nobody but the average fan was in a position to complain.” We ARE in a position to complain. Aren’t we?
"This ain't a football game. We do this every day."
by Fear and Trembley on Feb 8, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Paying customers usually are.
Just like our “right to boo”, I’d say.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on Feb 9, 2009 7:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the minoroty here
but I think violating confidentiality agreements, leaking grand jury testimony and otherwise pissing all over the 4th Amdmt. & any other laws concerning the rules of evidence are INFINITELY worse than taking steroids.
I guess I just have a “post Magna Carta” mindset.
On the other hand, all the sportswriters & self-righeous pricks (but I repeat myself) who said, “Oh, Bonds will only have the record for a few years, when someone clean passes him” have to choke on it as hard as, well, May-Rod chokes on it in Oct.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 9, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
your right
Bonds is in court because the feds want to prove he lied to a grand jury, Giambi didnt so he isnt being tried. Clemens and Tejada now face similiar situations.
Arod isnt quite in the clear yet. He could still be asked to testify at some later point and if he sticks to his Texas only story and say someone in Seattle says well now I remember sticking Alex in the ass…but I think Alex is more or less out of legal harms way.
by sanders833 on Feb 10, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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