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The Old Folks Home: First Base This Decade

Will-clark-si_medium First base often times is a place where you can "hide" a guy that can hit but doesn't have much athleticism. There are exceptions; Mark Teixeira and Albert Pujols are both outstanding first basemen in every way, as is Colorado's Todd Helton. There have been many athletic guys positioned at first for various reasons. Steve Garvey threw like my grandma, for instance.

This decade, the Orioles have had all sorts of problems. The losing started in 1998, but it has truly cemented itself in the 2000s. A couple losing years happen to any franchise, even the great ones. But the Orioles not only haven't had a winning season this decade, they haven't come close.

One of the issues has been first base. Traditionally you get a guy that can rake over there. The Orioles have instead chosen to fill the position with old fogies, has-beens and PR disasters.

Will Clark is one of my favorite players, but when the Orioles signed him after the 1998 season to replace Rafael Palmeiro, we didn't get the guy who'd been such a phenomenal and tremendously overlooked hitter. We got a broken down shell of the guy Will Clark used to be in San Francisco and Texas.

When healthy, "The Thrill" still hit -- he batted .303/.395./.482 in 1999 (294 plate appearances) and .301/.413/.473 in 2000 (310 plate appearances) before he got sent to St. Louis to fill in for the injured Mark McGwire. Clark destroyed NL pitching for the Cards and helped them get to the playoffs. He then retired gracefully.

Clark was entering his age 35 season when the Orioles signed him. He had been healthy in 1998, but prior to that the red flags were everywhere. We all knew he wasn't the guy he was in his early Giants days, but we didn't even get the guy that played in Texas:

Year Team Games Played WARP3
1994 Texas 110 5.0
1995 Texas 123 3.8
1996 Texas 117 2.6
1997 Texas 110 3.3
1998 Texas 149 3.0
1999 Baltimore 77 2.1
2000 Baltimore 79 2.5

Note of course that 1994 (114 games) and 1995 (144 games) were strike-shortened seasons. He was healthy in those seasons, but since they were short 38 or 21 games, it is what it is. '94 particularly might have been a different story with the extra games.

When Clark got traded, the team handed over the first base job to Chris Richard, who did not come over from the Cardinals in the Clark trade, which netted us Jose Leon on July 31, 2000. Richard actually was acquired on July 29, 2000 with Mike Nussbeck in exchange for Mike Timlin. We really did all we could to help St. Louis out in 2000.

Richard had a power surge in his end-of-season audition, slugging .563 with 13 homers in 199 at-bats. He was the Opening Day DH in 2001 and struggled to stay in the lineup. A couple years later he had been traded to Colorado for Jack Cust, whose glove needs glue in it to be playable and never got a fair shake with the O's. Shortly after that he was out of the league.

Seguiforearm_medium Who was the Opening Day first baseman for the 2001 O's? David Segui, of course, the 34-year old ex-Oriole we signed to a four-year deal.

The Segui deal is one of the overlooked bonehead moves of the decade. After the Clark health fiasco and the Albert Belle mess, the Orioles picked up Segui for about $7 million per season. Segui had played in 140+ games exactly three times in 11 years, while bouncing through eight organizations (Orioles, Mets, Expos, Mariners, Blue Jays, Rangers and Indians).

Yeah, he could hit some. But he was also 34 years old with a spotty history.

To the shock of literally nobody, Segui played in 82, 26, 67 and 18 games in his second run in Charm City. He was paid $27,762,895 for this service.

With Segui a non-entity and Richard a bust, Jeff Conine was the regular first baseman from 2001-03. Conine was barely passable as an everyday first baseman, and that wasn't his fault. After all, that was supposed to be Mr. Reliable, David Segui. He was pretty good in 2001, banged up and not very effective in 2002, and traded in 2003.

In '02, Jay Gibbons got to play some first base, and he broke out with a 28-homer season. We might give Gibby some guff now, but he was a genuinely nice Rule 5 pickup by the Orioles. He did more than you can expect of any Rule 5 guy, really. Gibbons was bad in the outfield and actually worse at first base, so he never stuck. He was another guy who got hurt a lot, anyway.

In true Oriole fashion, the team refused to learn from the Clark and Segui mistakes and signed 39-year old Rafael Palmeiro to play first base in 2004, part of the influx of new offensive talent with Miguel Tejada and Javy Lopez. This was a crummy idea from day one that got worse as Palmeiro embarrassed himself, the organization, and baseball in general in 2005. Here's why it was a bad idea from day one, though. Let's say Palmeiro really broke out in 1991 as an offensive star:

Year Team OPS+ HR
1991 Texas 155 26
1992 Texas 123 22
1993 Texas 150 37
1994 Baltimore 136 23
1995 Baltimore 145 39
1996 Baltimore 132 39
1997 Baltimore 113 38
1998 Baltimore 144 43
1999 Texas 159 47
2000 Texas 137 39
2001 Texas 141 47
2002 Texas 146 43
2003 Texas 117 38

The Orioles made the mistake of assuming that the home run totals meant that Palmeiro wasn't declining as he sauntered merrily toward 40. They were very, very wrong, and his final two seasons in Baltimore hashed that out: 108 OPS+ both years, with home run totals of 23 and 18, and the 23 took a bit of a late-season surge. Let's not even really go into THE GIANT STEROIDS ISSUE.

When Palmeiro was quietly released and all but taken out back and shot as far as the Orioles are concerned, what did they do next?

Of course! They signed 34-year old Kevin Millar! Now I love Kevbo, I really do. I'll always remember him fondly because unlike the other old farts we're talking about here, he went out and played his best. He didn't get hurt, he didn't drag everyone's name through the mud. He just played. He was a leader on and off the field and I enjoyed him.

But calling him successful in Baltimore is a stretch. He OPS+'d 111, 106 and 87. That's not "happenin'" as a first baseman.

Aubrey-719703_medium Now he's gone. He should be, and he is. They made the right call. And with no one in line -- not one single viable first base prospect in the system, after all these years -- the job goes to Aubrey Huff, who turned 32 in December.

The good news is that they didn't go out and sign Huff. They did that a couple years ago when it didn't make any sense. The fact that Huff had a remarkably good 2008 at the plate does not retroactively make his signing in the 2006-07 offseason a better one. It didn't make sense and was the product of a front office that didn't know what the hell they were doing and were making last gasp attempts at a "competitive" team by luring Huff and Jay Payton, who were both veterans on the decline.

Huff was great last year. He's unlikely to repeat. What's more bothersome is the fact that there STILL is not a viable first base prospect in the system. Brandon Snyder's glove is terrible and he's got a lot of hitting to do to make up ground. Billy Rowell was thought to likely be a first baseman and he's been brutal so far in the minors. Both have time. Both are young. I agree with that. And sure, maybe Nolan Reimold could play first base and that fixes everything, but he's been an outfielder his entire career and has had injury troubles of his own.

This is a position that has been neglected. Third base has the same problem, but thankfully Melvin Mora has been able to reliably man the hot corner for the last five years.

First base is the Oriole position of Steady Eddie, Boog and Gentleman Jim, the first big-time Oriole bopper. Between the reigns of Powell and Murray there was Lee May, who was sort of like if you took this decade of Oriole first baseman and boiled it down into one guy. But this has gone on a lot longer, and there ain't no Eddie Murray on his way here.

To be fair, the team did try their best to sign Mark Teixeira this offseason. And this whole first base black hole is one of the reasons that it did make sense. There is nobody that's going to be ready to take control of first base in the foreseeable future. Huff might be fine, but given his age, he's a stop-gap. What happens when his contract's up? Who then? Carlos Delgado?

It's an area that needs to be addressed in the coming drafts, or they might have to look around for a blocked first base guy in someone else's system. Clearly, free agency has not been kind to the Orioles as far as first basemen go.

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The entire infield, minus Brian, needs an overhaul. I like Andy’s philosophy of growing the arms and buying the bats, but based on this rundown it’s not as easy as it sounds.

I can’t stand David Segui.

[Guthrie's] president of my heart. ~PhilR8

by Stacey on Mar 18, 2009 8:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But LOOKATHIM! He’s such a muscle stud.

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"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Mar 18, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izturis is ok

With his glove and speed, he can be a part of a good team, as long as he hits ninth. He should be able to play at his current level for a few years.

by uneasy rider on Mar 18, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am thinking Rowell still has a shot here

at first if he ever hits, I guess they want to give Snyder one shot at it maybe and I dont know if Rowell’s move is permanent or just something to get him to relax.

Then again, Adrian Beltre at third. I see that as very possible. Would there be any reason to think that they would use MM at first base for a year if they pick up his option? I guess this will the year known as the Aubrey Huff Project….2010 looks like a dark hole.

Boston and NY will decide between Bay and Holliday and we decide between Laroche and Jacobs-yep that will be exciting…

by sanders833 on Mar 18, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Contract year for Huff

I expect big things from him followed by a midseason trade to net us some prospects. I think it is unfair to assume Huff is unable to repeat considering the contract year implications. He seems like a contract year type of guy i.e. it worked on the Orioles it should work on another franchise too.

by Dr. Giggles on Mar 18, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He seems like a contract year type of guy i.e. it worked on the Orioles it should work on another franchise too.

This might be a good theory if Huff had had a big year the year prior to the Orioles signing him. He didn’t.

Huff OPS+ / WARP3 by year:

2001: 74 / -0.2
2002: 135 / 3.6
2003: 145 / 5.3
2004: 124 / 4.2
2005: 98 / 1.6
2006: 108 / 2.3

Orioles sign Huff, who’s just had two straight lame seasons.

2007: 103 / 2.1
2008: 135 / 6.3

Huff’s 2008 was remarkably unexpected. The 2005-07 Huff has been 75% of the last four years of Huff, of course, and his big 2008 is the exception, not the rule. He dropped pretty hard after 2004. If he hits like he did in 2008 again, it’ll be much more a surprise than if he hits like he did the three years prior. By WARP3 he’s coming off the best season of his career, and he was unquestionably the AL’s top DH. But no one expected either of these things to happen, and expecting it to happen again would be a stretch.

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"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Mar 18, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kila Ka'aihue, perhaps?

He mashed last year, although most of the year was spent at AA for the third go-round. That would give me pause.

by Brotz13 on Mar 18, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Syder

Positives:
Hits solid line drives
Has shown ability to hit for average
Is relatively skilled at ‘digging’ bad throws at first
Is a helluva nice guy, very personable…although that means shit to most

Negatives:
Line drive hitters are not normally first basemen, more power please
Aside from ‘digging’ ability, is not very mobile or effective at first
Lacks good plate discipline

Brandon is in danger of being a player that might never find his niche. The lack of power/glove makes it hard to see him at first, but the guy can hit very well otherwise. I don’t know what to say or do about him if he remains the player he is…

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by sickuvitall on Mar 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Line drive hitters are not normally first basemen, more power please

Wouldn’t be a big thing if he had any plate discipline, like a Mark Grace or Lyle Overbay, or if he could field the position.

Is a helluva nice guy, very personable…although that means shit to most

I think it’s cool that he’s cool, but it doesn’t matter really, no. Still I do like Snyder and I’m rooting for him. He’s still a lot better than Chris Vinyard ever was and people kept pretending he might be a prospect.

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"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Mar 18, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Vinyard

HA! Never shall he see the light of the major leagues.

Facial hair adds character...support Birds for Beards!

by sickuvitall on Mar 18, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reimold

If Pie works outs, Reimold won’t have a position in the future, so maybe he could be taught to play first, or better yet, traded for a first base prospect like Ka’aihue.

by uneasy rider on Mar 18, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to be Debbie Downer

But Pie ain’t gonna work out. I just can’t see it, he’s a 4th OF’er, late inning replacement with a cool accent.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 18, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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