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Is anyone ready to believe that he's really changed?

http://masnsports.com/2009/03/the-owner-is-here.html

 

Angelos said he speaks to Andy MacPhail, president of baseball operations, about once every two weeks.

"He calls when he thinks there's something important for us to talk about," Angelos said. "The club's in good hands, as is quite obvious, so too many calls aren't really required."

As the Orioles draw closer to contention, perhaps after this season, they appear more willing to spend on marquee free agents.

 

"Absolutely,'' Angelos said. "We've had that in mind, and I believe the resources will be available to do that."

To me, Angelos is the last wild card in the turnaround of this team.  He sounds like a dream owner in these quotes - hands-off and willing to spend.  

Dare I believe he's really changed?  Has he really bought into the cult of Andy?

 

 

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The news source is MASN, which Angeles owns. That said, I think MacPhail has control of the team player-personnel wise. I can’t think of any moves that reeked of Angeles since MacPhail came aboard. I’ve said this before a million times, but the fact that Angeles has been meddlesome has not been his biggest problem. Angeles’ worst leadership quality has always been the constant amount of turnover he has caused within the organization the last decade or so. The O’s end up having a new GM every 2-4 seasons because of his inability to find a talented GM . And the GMs he has hired have been lame as hell which has caused him to (rightfully) reject some, but not all, their stupid ideas (I mean Jeremey Burnitz! Come on, although Angeles didn’t technically reject that deal since his analness about Burnitz’s physical cause his agent to back out and sign with the Pirates instead). MacPhail seems to be better than the other sorry ass GMs that Angeles has hired. Hopefully, I’ll get to see another winning Orioles team in my life time.

"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.

by birdman on Mar 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I might end up regretting this

but I think maybe Angelos has finally changed. He is a very successful man and it has to have been killing him to not succeed at this. Since MacPhail has come on board all signs have been that Angelos finally gets what needs to be done to be successful as an owner.

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by Stacey on Mar 22, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Saving the Preakness

Would certainly help.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Mar 22, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the easy position is no...

…and that’s the one I’ll take. As previously mentioned, Angelos owns MASN and while I like Kubatko, I have little reason to believe he’d speak truth to power. Isn’t that Sports Journalism 101? Don’t piss off people who could fire you and still not know how to pronounce your name? And what is MacPhail really going to say? Essentially his words are meaningless…either he is effective or he’s not, because he had to know going in Angelos is Angelos. Plus he’s had two other ownership groups that were no peaches either.

I think Angelos’ biggest problem is recognizing that success in and of itself isn’t transitive. While I have no doubt his legal skills are solid and his ability to manage a law firm are even better, he pretty clearly has shown he has no idea how to be an owner of a baseball team. He doesn’t give enough rope to some guys (Wren) or gets caught up in meaningless power struggles with others (Gillick, Johnson, Miller). Then he doesn’t see that Thrift was clearly passed his prime and Flanagan wasn’t up to snuff. It would be funny really if wasn’t so damn sad that 11 years has been filled with such little joy that I am curious of how the minor league rotations will shake out than investing time in wondering if a meaningful September is even possible. For me the Townshend draft was the end…he overruled the GM in 96, signs Belle with little input from Wren and years later supposes he knows more than the scouting director. It’s just comical in a way. If anything PGA’s absence is a result of his health, which you have to figure can’t be all that great considering he’s older than the country. I’m sure the last 11 years grate on him moreso than anyone else, but not doing things dumb doesn’t mean you are smart. I’m not saying that PGA or whoever took over Joe Foss’ job don’t deserve any credit for getting talented guys like Jordan on the ship, but PGA is still a long way from getting anywhere beyond the blind squirrel finding an acorn notion with me.

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by dfa on Mar 23, 2009 2:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The proof will be in the pudding

but Andy M doesnt strike me as a guy who would put up with meddling ownership, has been successful before and so far his moves all seem fairly rational within a well maintained budget.

Andy has made all the low hanging fruit decisions…all have mostly been successful (trading Bedard, Tejada), acquiring cheap talent in Pie, Hill, signing Nick Markasis and signing Wieters and drafting Matusz. I will put the Roberts contract in the middle-I still think Andy wanted to trade Brian first so he didnt get that done but his plan B was always to resign Brian although we can debate the merits of the contract which we all have.

The team has concentrated on youth and defense. There are traces of a plan in place. Much like 2002 when the economy steered Javy Lopez, Miguel Tejada and nearly Vlad Gurerrero to Balt those events are shaping up again in 2010 and maybe 2011 which ties nicely to Mr. Angelos’s comments and the expected infusion of young talent from the minors which wasnt in place in 2002.

I find it encouraging that Mr. Angelos has gone on record and that we as fans and national media recognize the infusion of expected young talent to the major league level.

by sanders833 on Mar 23, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't really take anything away from the quotes

I think the real indication of Angelos changing is the moves that have been made, specifically both the Tejada and the Bedard trade. In years past, I don’t see the Orioles moving them, but rather going out and adding a second tier aging free-agent in the hopes that if absolutely everything breaks our way maybe we can compete.

I also noticed Andy seems to go out of his way to continually praise Angelos. Anytime he makes a move, he seems to make a point of giving Angelos credit in one way or another, which probably can’t hurt him keeping his autonomy.

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by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

real indication of Angelos changing is the moves that have been made, specifically both the Tejada and the Bedard trade

Releasing Gibby was also huge.

"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.

by birdman on Mar 23, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angelos isn't going.....

to change. Guys that old don’t change – the ego is to big at his age – it’s in the driver seat and it’s not moving.
The deadskin’s midget owner says he’s going to change every three months or so – dude just paid Albert " the headstomper’ Hayneswothless $100 mil large.

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and how would it seem? Neil Young - 'words'

by breweyboy18 on Mar 24, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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