FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - The Orioles traded former top pitching prospect Hayden Penn to the Florida Marlins on Wednesday for utility infielder Robert Andino.
Penn, a 24-year-old right-hander who made his major league debut in 2005 as a 20-year-old, wasn't going to make the Orioles' roster and he was out of options, facilitating the trade. Given an opportunity to make the Orioles' Opening Day roster this spring, Penn went 0-3 with a 10.05 ERA, allowing 27 hits and walking six in 17 innings.
Andino, 24, has hit .201 (29-for-144) with two homers and 12 RBIs in limited action over the past four seasons with the Marlins. He was drafted in the second round in 2002 and touted as the Marlins' shortstop of the future, but Florida acquired Hanley Ramirez in a trade with Boston in 2005, moving Andino down the organizational depth chart.
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If Andino is out of option, does this mean he makes the team?
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Damn you
I can’t see this as a negative. Andino’s a defensive minded dude who might be able to learn to swing the bat better.
Farewell, Hayden
Andino makes a lot more sense given our roster needs right now. Since Penn is out of options, the Marlins are presumably keeping him on the opening day roster, so this is a great result for Hayden.
this also means
They are going with 12 pitchers.
There is one free spot on the 40-man (Pauley’s spot) to add Moeller/Hammock as the backup catcher, but if they want to add Eaton to the 40-man roster, they will need to DFA Brain Bass.
DFA Brian Bass? NEVER!
Seriously, I can’t even remember what the guy looks like.
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
This completes the purge of former "future rotation"
Remember all the talk of Bedard, Cabrera, Loewen, all to be joined by Penn? This was to be the rotation of 2009. They were to be the foundation of Flanny and Duquette’s big push to .500 ball (!) which would be a starting point for … whatever.
just one more reminder...
Orioles front office to Mets, circa January 2006:
“You can’t have Adam Loewen! You can’t have Hayden Penn, either! Here, take this sad sack named John Maine.”
It really is dispiriting.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Better to cut bait now and salavge something in a trade
than persist in the belief that Hayden Penn will ever amount to anything on a MLB staff.
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
I was in the 'make him a mop up guy' camp
But I guess Izturis lite is OK too.
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
Anyone watching the game right now?
You can try out the new mlb.tv player for free – no blackout restrictions, either. It looks pretty good so far – it has a DVR thing, so I’m watching the game from the beginning.
Not working for me :(
It’s been showing me this for like five minutes with no sound, no nothing. I have Adobe Flash 9 on this work computer so I’m not sure what the deal is.
I'm using FireFox, and it looks like you are too
:(
Here, I’ll take a screenshot and show you how sweet it is:
I’m watching the live Orioles game, and have an archived NYY/PHI game from last week playing in PIP. The DVR controls are visible when you move the mouse cursor over the video feed.
Huff looks like he’s 100% fresh squeezed awesome.
Me too
Since, you know, once the season starts, none of us who live in Maryland will be able to watch an Orioles game this way. Sigh.
Yeah that blows
My friend in NJ had MLB.tv for a few years and I used to use her account to watch O’s games online sometimes, but then they figured out how to not let two people be signed in to the same account at the same time. Jerks.
Yeah, it's pretty sweet
The picture is beautiful, was watching the WBC that way. The 400k/600k feeds are garbage. I can’t believe I paid for 2 seasons of choppy, grainy video.
Although I’d like to be able to go watch a live game (OPACY, Bowie, Frederick) without getting on a plane. Or, see games vs. TEX, because it’s only an 8 hour drive to their ballpark.
I think you can watch archived games with no restrictions.
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
2 for 10
The heady days of 2005:
http://www.camdenchat.com/2005/3/13/123338/566
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
Who didn't see this coming?
If only the O’s did that with Sidney Ponson years ago…at least we would have gotten SOMETHING for him
Baltimore Blast - 5-time MISL champions, ready to make it 6 on 4/11
Let's go Blues!
We did
We got three pitchers for him, two of whom had career-ending injuries and the third of whom sucked everywhere outside of Atlanta for one year.
Man
I was really high on Kurt Ainsworth. I thought that was a great trade.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Apr 2, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The same here.
Instead he became just another in a long line of disappointing O’s pitching prospects, many of whom never made it due to injury.
hakkaa päälle !
Well, I would prefer a utility guy that didn't hit like a pitcher
but we can’t win them all. At least this means 12 pitchers only, which is a big big improvement.
I’m sure Florida would have prefered a starter that didn’t pitch like a utility guy.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 1, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
Who cares?
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
To elaborate
Penn wasn’t going to clear waivers, so at least we got something for him. Hayden wouldn’t have panned out, and we couldn’t expect to get a quality infielder for the guy. At the very least, it’s easier to give up on a forgettable utility player than a former prized pitching prospect.
I’ve heard of Andino before when he was touted for having a rocket arm, but apart from his plus defensive skills, he is nothing more than a stopgap.
So, who cares?
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
so i guess Penn will go to the marlins after all
Looks like the 2005 trade talks were completed. Can we still get AJ Burnett somehow?
at that contract?
Would you take him for all those millions?
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Apr 1, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Marlins President speaks about the trade(s)
Marlins President Larry Beinfest speaks about player moves
Larry Beinfest just finished speaking with the media about his late flurry of moves as spring training winds to a close. Some highlights:
() Like Robert Andino, newly acquired RHP Hayden Penn was out of options. He has been a starter throughout his career, but he will be popped into the bullpen these next few days and the Marlins will see if there’s a fit.
Penn worked closely with former Orioles pitching coach Mark Wiley and no doubt will be pleased to have a reunion. It was Wiley who, upon joining the Marlins for the 2005 season — his first go-round with the organization — who told Beinfest if he ever had a chance to acquire Penn, he should do it.
The Marlins have liked Penn’s curveball for years — they nearly traded for him in a package for A.J. Burnett in 2004 — and were impressed earlier this spring when he struck out the side against them in an exhibition outing. At worst, they will try to slip Penn through waivers and hope to get him on their Triple-A staff for added depth, which seems do-able considering his 10.06 ERA in 17 spring innings this year and his 0-4, 15.10 numbers in six big-league starts last year.
I promise if he goes through waivers, I will be at one of his starts.
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
what could have been?
It is kind of difficult to wonder how Penn would have turned had he not been rushed to the majors when he was 20. Maybe he could’ve worked on his health and some things could have worked out differently. Between him and Cabrera and Loewen, you had to figure someone would’ve worked out. But here we are with Adam Eaton and Mark Hendrickson and Alfredo Simon.
Could just be a case of needing a new start, though. I wish him well. Still can’t believe he was involved in that high school shooting a few years back when the shooter was a kid from Frederick. What a weird life Hayden has had…
Librarians are hiding something
I would take Penn over Eaton or Hendrickson any day
as he has more potential upside, more worthy of investment. It’s not like we’re trying to win the division this year. Just hope that he is an improvement over last years fail parade.
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
He does?
If the Orioles thought that in the future he was more likely than not to be better, even marginally, than Eaton or Hendrickson, I suspect he’d still be on the team.
When was the last time Penn was good? He wasn’t even good last year when the bat got him.
05-07
Compare the players The link won’t include the names. You can do by career and by season.
Penn’s minor league numbers were pretty damn good in those years, k/9 of 9 and bb/9 around 3. Got shelled in the bigs, as you would expect from a youngster.
The last 3 years of Eaton, in the majors, shows a h/9 of almost 11, 5 k/9, and a 1.6 whip, in 350 innings. That’s pretty poor, and from a guy with 9 seasons of experience, you can’t expect he’ll do anything but get worse. And Eaton is a little better than Hendrickson, who is still in the majors because he can throw with his left arm and not put up an 8 ERA (so far)
Penn has 58 innings of MLB experience. 2008 wasn’t a great year, but it wasn’t terrible for him. This spring they split him between starting and relief. Sure he sucked really badly, but so did everyone else but Uehara and Simon and a few of the minor leaguers. Guthrie was just as bad. I just wish that they would have given him one more shot, considering the replacement options and the space was there for him (since Simon has options and we’re not going to compete this year)
The reason they traded him was the Marlins called asking specifically for him and made a fair offer (defensive OOO SS) at a position we need. Since our backup options at that position are a couple of older scrubs they took it.
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
Bad but not so bad
Between Cabrera, Penn, Loewen, and Bedard, the O’s had one great success. I’m trying to find the quote, but somewhere MacPhail said something to the effect of, “for every 6 well regarded pitching prospects, you get one effective big leaguer”. He said this last year after the O’s traded for Tillman, Albers, Patton, Mikolio, Butler, and Sherrill. Already, three of these guys have had serious arm problems. There is a high flameout rate even in the best systems. That’s why you need so many of them.
by uneasy rider on Apr 2, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if this makes a whole lot of sense but...
At least Hendrickson and Eaton aren’t taking up space, blocking a spot in the roster for Arrietta, Tillman, and Matusz. Penn does that.
Hendrickson + Eaton > Penn because they can be traded or dropped without there being much repercussions.
Roger that.
It seems counterintuitive that we’re better off stocking bad re-treads at this point, but it’s true. We need the ability to drop them like a bad habit more than we need them to have a chance at putting up decent numbers.
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