Camden Chat: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: Cottagers Confidential for Fulham FC Fans!

Rays 11, Orioles 3: Well, that sucked

If there ever was a day pre-ordained for a soul-sucking loss, today was it. Tampa Bay was throwing their staff ace, James Shields, while we countered with Adam Eaton. I’m not even bothering with a sarcastic-laden adjective to precede his name, we all know how much he has sucked, sucks now, and will suck until the O’s come to their senses and DFA him. The only question is how many losses he will pile up in the interim and how many reliever innings we burn on his starts. Dude’s terrible.

I’m fighting a nasty sinus infection, and the Orioles gave me absolutely no reason to stay awake for the first 3 innings of this game, so I didn’t. I fell asleep somewhere shortly before first pitch, and woke up with Brian Bass trotting out to start the 4th. I took one look at the score – 4-0, Tampa Bay, and thought, "Yeah, that sounds about right."

There’s not much to say about this game. There’s not much to say about Adam Eaton. And there’s really not much to say about Brian Bass, who was God-awful today, aside from "There’s a bus that leaves for Norfolk at 10:10 p.m.  Be on it."

So let’s just pick a Most Birdland Player, rip a page off the calendar and be done with this game. Yuck.

Poll
Who was the Most Birdland Player for Sunday, April 12, 2009?
Adam Jones (2 for 4, 2B, pulling off the fake "I got it!" in CF on Gabe Gross))
148 votes
Chad Moeller (1 for 4, kick save and a beauty!)
29 votes
Dennis Sarfate (1.2 IP, 0 R, 1 H, not being Adam Eaton or Brian Bass)
54 votes

231 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  Comment 56 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

I love the Norfolk bus

Glad that’s back

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Greyhound.com is my friend

and the iPhone makes it even easier to get screencaps up to Photobucket. Seriously.

And I’ll have to start mixing up the destinations depending on how bad the performance is. Bowie won’t be used much, since that’s where our actually good players are, aside from those biding their time for service years reasons <cough!> Wieters <cough!>.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can just ship them to Frederick....or Delmarva

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bluefield.

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Apr 12, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't think it didn't cross my mind

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I seriously thought about Delmarva for Bass...

but that meant he’d be pitching near ME, and I can’t have that.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd be pitching near me, too.

Just in his road jersey…

"You have to discipline yourself so you don't come out with something just to say you made a trade. You have to make sure you come out better than you were before." - Andy MacPhail, 7/31/08

by getxstoked on Apr 12, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fact that we DFA'd Matt Albers to keep Adam Eaton and Brian Bass

is quite upsetting. I’d happily trade Eaton and Bass for Albers and an empty roster spot.

by math_geek on Apr 12, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Options, all about options

I’ll bet significant American currency that if Albers is anywhere near decent in AAA, he’ll be back in 10 days. Eaton gets 2 more starts TOPS.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true, it's both

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ortiz, Brower, Trax(2008), etc

Another couple starts like this will confirm Eaton is this year’s equivalent to those guys (and others) listed above. These guys suck the life out of the team and the crowd. Hopefully if he pitches again, Trembley has the brains to do it on the road so the home town fans needn’t be subjected to this again.

by drj on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From Schmuck

The Schmuck Stops Here

Eaton probably will pitch again in Boston. I don’t believe manager Dave Trembley and pitching coach Rick Kranitz will use the offday Thursday to skip him. I think they will pitch him and give Koji Uehara an extra day of rest, because Koji is just getting accustomed to pitching in a five-day rotation.

If the results are similar to today’s, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Orioles then make the move to Bergesen to start against the White Sox on April 23 or against the Angels on April 28 at Camden Yards. I have no inside info on this, but it seems logical.

So, Peter’s guessing that Eaton has one more shot at turning this around or Bergesen takes his spot. I’m all for performance-based demotions, but just one more start strikes me as pretty quick for an MLB club. Not that he wouldn’t deserve it, but still, a bit unprecedented for the O’s to do.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but Pete admits it’s pure speculation. And when fans speculate, they do it based on a grounded belief that Adam Eaton will never ever be a mediocre pitcher.

by math_geek on Apr 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who has ever watched Adam Eaton

over a prolonged period of time – say, two consecutive starts – knows he isn’t a mediocre pitcher, and never will be. I’d love to see Pete’s timetable come true.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even so

“Eaton probably will pitch again in Boston.”

Those seven words chill my blood.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Apr 12, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I see it this way

He’s almost guaranteed to get shelled there, thus speeding up his release.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's better than "Eaton probably will pitch gain in Baltimore"

If MacPhail wants to draw people to OPACY, then let the schlubs pitch elsewhere. Zero people will look at the schedule, see that Eaton is slated to go, and think “there’s a game I’d like to see”.

Anyhow, today was only one start. He’ll get some more. He may turn something around. I’m not holding my breath. I guess it’s the price The O’s have to pay to let others develop. They have sworn they will not rush the young pitching.

by drj on Apr 12, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The year 2000

was the ONE year he’s had an ERA+ of more than 100, which is the very definition of league average, i.e. mediocre.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh

He’d be going on Friday, right? That’s the game 2632 is going to. Oh man. Sad day for her.

by Stacey on Apr 12, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The good news....

is that if she sits in the outfield, she’ll have an increased chance of getting a souvenir

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aw shit

I gotta spend money on gas and tolls and freeze my ass off in the bleachers for that shit?

GODDAMNIT.

"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's any consolation...

Eaton pitching in Boston is pure speculation from Mr. Peter Schmuck. The O’s could very well use their next open date on the schedule as an excuse to skip Eaton and start Koji on regular rest that night. Keep hope alive, 2632.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Apr 13, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

it seems it’ll be Guthrie on Friday regardless of if they skip Eaton. Guthrie pitched Saturday, Eaton Sunday, Koji today, Simon Tuesday, Hendrickson Wednesday.

Take heart, Marianne! Looks like Eaton will be on Saturday.

by Stacey on Apr 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that

But the team will give up and take out Roberts and Mora in the top of the 7th.

Yeah, I went yesterday. I’ve never seen a loss quite like that.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Apr 13, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't really offer a poll with one choice

We’re not the Soviet Union.

And I did enjoy Moeller kicking the crap out of that guy’s shin and basically getting away with it. And Sarfate not being Eaton or Bass. Give ’em some love!

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Sarfate as much as the next day, but mop-up duty is not Birdland.

Also not saying that a poll shouldn’t have multiple options, just think it’s AJ by a mile.

by math_geek on Apr 12, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the end, I think the poll will show that

Sometimes, the deserved results are a bit obvious, and today is one of those days. Not to bias any potential voters, of course. Can’t mess with the integrity of the MBP daily poll. It must be kept sacrosanct at all costs.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Chad's brother

I think the rest of the O’s fan base won’t miss him much in a few weeks when Matt Wieters gets called up. Nothing personal.

"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese

by duck on Apr 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he didn't have a Benny Hill moment with Gabe Gross

Chad Moeller in ’09!

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Apr 13, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted for Moeller just because his play at the plate made me smile more than a good but overall nondescript game from AJ (unless i missed something, if i did someone let me know). and in a game as terrible as that, I could use something to smile about.

by kba26 on Apr 12, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone tell me...

why one earth we were stuck with Hernandez behind the plate for so long? He couldn’t hit, he couldn’t throw to second, he didn’t make any of the pitchers better… God I hated that guy….

So yeah, I voted for Moeller. I like how even though he is just warming the spot for Weiters, he is playing harder than Hernandez ever fucking did.

"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."

by UMBC Oriole fan on Apr 12, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hernandez actually was good in his first year with us

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

by exitfare on Apr 12, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hernandez hit well his first year and was incredibly unlucky last year at the plate. He was a horrid catcher though. I think people use Ramon as an easy way out of forgetting about crybaby Javy Lopez, and I don’t think that’s quite fair. Ramon was lazy, but Lopez was a real jerkoff.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Javier

You know you’re getting into a win-win situation when you have to put an effing weight clause in a guy’s contract. Boston gave us Adam Stern in exchange for Javy, and they probably still feel like they overpaid.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Apr 13, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just roaming through the boxscore...

because I had Easter activities to tend to today, it doesn’t appear any of these bums deserve a MBP today.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SIGN PEDRO!

"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.

by birdman on Apr 13, 2009 2:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's not get too annoyed with what the o's have done so far.

4-2 is a good start, and if we can keep winning series , 2 of 3 or 3 of 4, we are not only gonna be over 500 at seasons end, but most likely a playoff team. so ya, we aren’t sweeping people, but if we keep up this good consistent baseball, we are gonna finally break our losing ways.

by osfan83 on Apr 13, 2009 4:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with this thinking is they’ve won a couple games they damn near gave away, and those generally start evening out. The losses have been clobber jobs. Of course I don’t care, it’s an actual effective rebuilding year. Every time they win is just a good day for me.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Apr 13, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They say that's how the D-backs were so good despite their Pythag

Cling to dear life for the close games — don’t be afraid to go through relievers like water, etc. — and let the losses pile into blowouts — leaving Bass out to dry like we did yesterday.

I’m not saying it will make the O’s a winning team, but it’s not necessarily a bad managerial approach.

by punkrawka on Apr 13, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did we actually DFA Bass?

Or is the “bus to Norfolk” just a well-deserved suggestion? I’d like to see us keep our terrible pitchers on a much shorter rope this year.

by punkrawka on Apr 13, 2009 7:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

suggestion

The brass loves Bass (or at least they did in the spring, which is why we let Penn go) so don’t expect it soon.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Apr 13, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh by the way

The answer to the question, “Will there now be all sorts of Rays fans at Camden Yards this year?” is no. I went to the game Saturday and I saw one Rays fan on my way in and there was one other one one section over from me. So I suppose that’s an increase from years past, but barely. There were more Red Sox fans at the game than Rays fans.

by Stacey on Apr 13, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh yeah, Red Sox fans at a Rays-O's game in April

Towson yuppies is more likely.

Like the spillover “Red Sox” fans where my sister lives in Western MD. It has it’s share of D.C. commuters moving out to the fringes for affordable housing. Baltimore is too low rent a town to root for (as if D.C. has it all figured out), some say they like would like to root for the Nats, but you know, they suck, so they wear Red Sox gear.

by drj on Apr 13, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it will be far less noticeable than with the yankees and red sox, its a lot further to travel and I’m assuming tickets to rays home games are reasonably cheap and available.

by kba26 on Apr 13, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

based on previous vote totals

and the GINORMOUS AJ lead, I think I may chose today to enact a Mercy Rule;

AJ for MBP?

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Apr 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Truth

No real comp in this one.

Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (

by sickuvitall on Apr 13, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted Moeller

for the wrestling move. In the rare chance we got to prevent a run, he took it and turned it into a highlight reel.

I heart AJ, but this was not a game where offense was Birdland, nor pitching.

Also, I missed the ‘i got it’ thing, as I decided to do some woodworking pretty early in the game.

AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 13, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's...what she said.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Apr 14, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The woodworking reference

or the highlight reel?

AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 14, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woodworking

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler

by SC on Apr 15, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's official...

AJ for MBP.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Apr 13, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

The SB Nation blog covering the Baltimore Orioles.

Please read our Community Guidelines
Start posting about the Orioles »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

Connect_with_facebook

Cbs_fantasy_baseball_promo

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Brad-bergesen_away_small
More Fun with TotalZone!

Recent FanPosts

Umd_logo_small
OT: Brackets, Anyone?
Oriole1_small
OT: 2010 Redskins Season tickets for sale- FACE VALUE
Small
The Conundrum (aka, The Orioles Bullpen)
Omar_small
Guthrie's Lefty/Righty Hit Location Splits UPDATED
Favicon1_small
Runoff for Community Prospect List #12
Small
A Spring Training Story you havent heard??
Umd_logo_small
How are Orioles in MLB 10 The Show?
Small
Bullpen Banter's Orioles Preview and Top 25 Prospects
Umd_logo_small
USA vs. Canada Gold Medal Gamethread

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

SBNation.com Recent Stories

Davey Johnson, center, a senior adviser for the Washington Nationals,  is shown in the dugout during a spring training baseball game against the New York Mets, Saturday, March 6, 2010, in Viera, Fla. (AP Photo/Rob Carr) +2 updates

Spring Training News and Notes, 3/19: Catching Up With Everyone

Milwaukee Brewers third baseman Mat Gamel can't field a bunt by Chicago Cubs' Kosuke Fukudome, of Japan, during the first inning of a baseball game in Chicago, Thursday, Sept. 17, 2009.(AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

Brewers Third Baseman Mat Gamel Diagnosed With 'Slightly' Torn Lat

Texas Rangers'  Nelson Cruz, left, and Chris Davis, center, are congratulated by Toby Hall, right, after they scored on a double by Elvis Andrus against the Colorado Rockies in the third inning of  a Cactus League spring baseball game in Tucson, Ariz., on Thursday, March 11, 2010. (AP Photo/Ed Andrieski)

SB Nation's 2010 MLB Previews: Texas Rangers, Dripping With Promise

More from SBNation.com >

SPONSOR

GAMETHREAD SPONSOR

Masn_medium


Big Wigs

Oriole1_small zknower

Img00244_small Stacey

Reimoldavatar_small duck

Medium Wigs

9018_185776360922_747385922_4256197_5272137_n_small SC

109531462_dfb593e7ba_m_small 2632

Omar_small Jonny Pops

Wigs

Birdman-priceless_small birdman

Felix_small Baltimo

Img_0666_small NawlinsOriole

Oravenbird_small dayzd toe

Hagyx_small Roarfrom34