Red Sox 12, Orioles 1: Totally Rad!
Let me say this but one time, and hope it's the last time I have to say it for a long while: Radhames Liz is terrible. He was terrible last year, and somehow he's even worse this year. When the Orioles demoted him from starting pitcher to bullpen fodder for the Tides, I think it sent a message that the staff and the coaches and the front office and everyone knew Liz wasn't really very good. When you're 25 and have been looked at as a starting pitcher your entire career and you get bumped down to relief work, and it's not caused by an injury that has affected your ability to pitch a lot of innings, it's not a good sign.
Liz wasn't the real problem today. Even if someone pitches his one-third of an inning and doesn't allow any runs at all and the six that came in earned on him don't happen, the Orioles got ripped for their fifth straight loss in a row, completing a four-game sweep at the hands of the Red Sox -- who came in struggling, mind you -- at Fenway Park. Take those six runs off the board and Boston still comfortably wins, 6-1.
But Liz now has a season ERA of 67.50. He has gotten 1.1 innings of work in and surrendered TEN EARNED RUNS.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm guessing a week in Norfolk wasn't really long enough for him to get acclimated to relief pitching, which is surely different than starting. (It might also just be me, but I don't think he's ever going to stick around no matter what he's doing.)
But I'm not trying to pile on Liz and nothing more, though surely they've seen enough that he needs to be sent back down to Norfolk in exchange for literally anybody with a healthy arm. Look, bottom line before I really move on: The team made a career decision for Liz and then gave him a week of real baseball to work on it before they threw him into the fire. There are guys in Norfolk that have been relieving for years and even if they aren't great, could certainly be doing better than this. It is clear Liz isn't ready. He might never be. And yeah it's a rebuilding year and that's great, but putting Liz on the hill right now is like asking the other team to score. Period. I don't expect to contend, but giving the games away by putting completely incompetent players on the field is another story.
And I'll exhale...
The offense was limp for the second game in a row, scoring once in the third inning when Cesar Izturis got Robby Andino in from third base. Andino came into the game to play third base after Ryan Freel (who started at third) was drilled in the back of the head, near his ear on a pickoff attempt at second base by Justin Masterson. It kind of looked like Freel was knocked out solid in mid-dive, because the ball hit him and he faceplanted pretty hard into the dirt. He was down and not moving for a minute or two, and looked really groggy as he was helped off the field. Hopefully he's OK, but I wouldn't rule out a concussion.
Mark Hendrickson played with fire and had a bad first two innings, but he got out of there after five innings having allowed just three earned. And then the bullpen tanked it something fierce:
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA M. Hendrickson (L, 1-2) 5.0 5 3 3 3 6 1 3.86 D. Sarfate 1.0 4 3 3 1 1 0 7.36 R. Liz 0.1 3 6 6 1 0 0 67.50 M. Albers 1.2 3 0 0 0 1 0 5.87
Albers finished it out OK, so that was nice.
For the life of me, I don't understand why all the writers and commentators and everyone keep going, "Well the bullpen was supposed to be good, it was supposed to be the rotation that had issues." What bullpen were they looking at? Sarfate has major command issues and one plus pitch (a hard fastball), Johnson is a sinkerballer that was absolutely bound to regress from last season because his K-to-BB really stunk for a guy with an ERA that low, and Sherrill was junk in the second half. Add that to Walker coming off a terrible year, Ray coming off of a season lost to injury, Albers with some arm issues, Danys Baez coming off of a season lost to injury and a rotten one before that, and coaching staff love child Brian Bass (batters are hitting .386 off of him) and I just don't see where this solid bullpen was supposedly coming from. There was a chance it was going to be decent, but it was 50-50 at best, man. The other 50 is winning right now.
I said last season and this spring that knowing your team isn't there to contend and accepting it mentally is one thing, but watching them fail so dramatically hard is another thing entirely. It's frustrating, it's maddening, and it's painful. Everyone winds up wanting the quick fix. "Get rid of this guy, bring up that guy!" It's easy to say, but there's hardly any guarantee that Lou Montanez or Brad Bergesen or any of these guys are going to fare any better. They got Pie to play left field because MacPhail believes in him, so like it or not we're stuck with Pie, his awful glove and his 5-for-34 start at the plate for the time being. They needlessly picked up Adam Eaton in spring training even though they already had 36 pitchers in camp, and he's exactly what we expected.
My point is, this team is going to anger you mightily many, many days. There may seem to be obvious fixes to at least upgrade to mediocrity instead of wastes of time, but they're going to let Pie play himself out of the position. He has no options left, they traded for him, he's going to play. And they went to the trouble of signing Adam Eaton for God knows what reason -- nobody say "to eat innings" because he doesn't eat innings, he just stinks and then gets hurt -- so Eaton is going to pitch for a bit.
And just remember: We all knew this team wasn't going to be good, and if you expected a repeat of last year's offense, I don't know what to tell you there.
Final note: Gregg Zaun can't hit for beans.
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+1
also this adam jones business has clearly deflated Team
i’m starting to wonder at this point whether there is cancer in the clubhouse …. undiagnosed as of yet
by thewaywardO on Apr 20, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is cancer in the form of our starting pitching sucks.
Also why can’t we just vote for no birdland today.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 20, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why can’t we just vote for no birdland today
AYE!
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 20, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the important thing is
the following pitchers are off to a terrific start:
Tillman
Arrieta
Matusz
Hernandez
Patton
Bergesen
Erbe
Britton
plus Reimold is destroying AAA. These are fantastic developments which (in my mind, at least) far outweigh the disastrous results we’re getting from the crap we’re sending to the mound for the big club. I know it’s frustrating, infuriating, and just plain shitty to watch Birds lose in horrible fashion, but I’m actually thrilled about how the season has started for the organization.
by Dingbat Charlie on Apr 20, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reimold just got named Player of the Week
for the International League.
"I think it’s shocking that the Baltimore Orioles are off to a 6-2 start this year, considering they are managed by TJ Hooker."
by Stacey on Apr 20, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to vote for MBP...
5IP 3ER isn’t even a “Quality Start,” as they say. It might be birdland for Hendo, but it most certainly IS NOT Birdland.. Ryan Freel… Maybe for getting beaned in the head, but you can’t even give HIM credit for that and let’s face it, getting hit in the head while diving into 2B IS NOT Birdland. Matt Albers… Maybe except for one little thing… 3 hits. That’s all well and good if he pitched for 4 or 5 innings, but he didn’t! He didn’t even pitch 2 innings! I guess that leaves Cesar, huh… C’mon! 1-4?!? Really? What’s Birdland about that. Brandon Fahey could go 1-4! And he’s not Birdland… Jeff Fiorentino could go 1-4! And he’s most certainly NOT Birdland!
So there ya’ have it. I’m not going to place a vote in my own spreadsheet. What has this world come to?
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 20, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could live with 5.0 and 3 out of Hendrickson ....
…. at least this year. Preferrably not past the trade deadline. And if we had a halfway bullpen, which scott points out we don’t.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Apr 20, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Newhan
once went 5 for 5… is HE Birdland? I think not.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 20, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may have been that day
Remember Luis? He was Birdland, if only for a day.
"I think it’s shocking that the Baltimore Orioles are off to a 6-2 start this year, considering they are managed by TJ Hooker."
by Stacey on Apr 20, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that day, yes he was
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
but no matter how you slice, 1-4 is not Birdland… except when it is, like when the 1 is a game winning GS.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 20, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for one brief shining moment
Birdland
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Apr 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Newhan once had an inside-the-park home run at Fenway!
A very hilarious inside-the-park home run.
by Y Not on Apr 20, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is among my favorite baseball memories.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Apr 20, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, so you're saying 67.50 is not a very good ERA?
We used to talk about Rad’s kinda frightening similarities to D-Cabs. Welp, I think he’s kinda worse. Much.
You’re right: Finita la comedia, Mac.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Apr 20, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liz would actually be substantially better if we could switch his ERA and ERA+
thats never a good sign.
by kba26 on Apr 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next thing you know...
you’re gonna tell me Pedro Beato isn’t any good.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on Apr 20, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This was a painful four days. I made the mistake of sending a text that simply said “Blowout” to several Red Sox fans after Markakis’ slam on Friday night. As you may have guessed that has come back to bite me in the ass a bit.
by jvoelks on Apr 20, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it again....
I’ll say this once again, why don’t we do what the Oakland A’s do, they blood in there young guns and it’s worked out pretty well for them…. I mean we have some pretty good guns firing it up in AA & AAA, what do we have to lose, they get rocked, well so what , so are the “so-called” MLB pitchers they are doing a good job of that right now…. This isn’t a knee jerk reaction to the problems this club is having, if a pitcher can pitch, and he has control then let him have a clear chance at it, it’s worked for the A’s and is also working for them this season. Come on McPhail pull your head out of your tail-end.
ORIOLES FOREVER
by F4Phantom on Apr 20, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because it worked so well for all our other pitchers in the past few years?
by kba26 on Apr 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, but...
they stunk.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We haven’t had pitching prospects this universally praised in a good long time, and certainly not three of them. Tillman is really good for his age and Matusz and Arrieta both have college polish.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hudson spent a year and a half in the minors, Zito the same, Mulder about a year. They’ll all be up. It won’t shock me if the Opening Day 2009 rotation has Tillman, Matusz and Arrieta. There is no one in the rotation that can’t be bumped out for them.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
er 2010, of course
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
following the rays/duck plan...
expect tillman some time this season.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I am sorry that Boston beat the Orioles in that last series; sad."
— my mom
"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis
by 2632 on Apr 20, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
your mom is the cutest
"I think it’s shocking that the Baltimore Orioles are off to a 6-2 start this year, considering they are managed by TJ Hooker."
by Stacey on Apr 20, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your mom is MBP.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Apr 20, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Freel, BTW
Dude got conked on the head but at least he was on base.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Freel
because I felt that incident was a metaphor for the state of Birdland today. Laying prone and motionless on the dirt after a blow to the head from the Red Sox.
"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis
by 2632 on Apr 20, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Your observation is depressingly apt. Better hope we can take some Excedrin before the next series.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Apr 20, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Freel, because I thought it was Anna Friel.
Who could be really terrific lying prone and motionless somewhere. You wouldn’t even need any dirt. Just sayin’.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Apr 21, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on Apr 21, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my opinion
I really do think there should be an N/A on each ballot, or at the very least on any ballot that makes sense (i.e. today). Its just another ballot. Birdland is something amazing. If no one earns it, I say we dont hand it to them. I’m not voting today, but that just means anyone who choses to vote gets a bigger say in who wins. For the sake of Birdland, lets give Nobody a chance.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on Apr 20, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we shouldn’t limit to Orioles. I’d vote for Nick Green; 0-4 with an error. He did more to help the birds than any of our guys.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 20, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last season
we determined that no player on an opposing team may be Birdland.
The caveat to this ruling, however, is that they may be birdland.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 20, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You made up the damn thing
and I “run” it for all intents and purposes and I agree with you. However, the public seems to be speaking, and so far all I can say is at Hendo’s one redeeming Birdland factor is… He had 6K’s in 5IP. I’m grasping here to rationalize putting his name in my spread sheet.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 20, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that there doesn't have to be a Birdland player every game
"I think it’s shocking that the Baltimore Orioles are off to a 6-2 start this year, considering they are managed by TJ Hooker."
by Stacey on Apr 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it shows appreciation every game in spite much our of cynical, pithy comments. There should be an MBP every game.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my second thought...
if people wanna keep it every game, thats cool too. It is “MOST Birdland player”, not “Birdland player”. Just because everyone sucks, there’s still got to be someone who sucked less than everyone else, right? Someone who is closer to Birdland than all the other schmucks… If the best player in the league hit .250 with 11 HR’s, there’d still be an MVP, right?
That being said, I still vote for the N/A option, but either way works.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on Apr 20, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 21, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I was at work today...
I thankfully did not get to watch the game and I’m glad. I agree, Liz is trash. He just doesn’t seem to be putting the ball where he should.
Anyway, I’m new on here and I will be joining in and expressing my frustration with everyone throughout this season. Go O’s!
by Johnny_S on Apr 20, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no birdland here
We’re on the pace to allow 1230 runs this year. And score 890.
At least it’s early. Send Liz to a psychologist, bring up Bergesen and lets get the offense going again.
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
by CoachOfEarl on Apr 20, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would then mean
AJ would hit 27 HR, 14 3B, 72 2B, 202 H, and an OPS of 1.169. I would take that.
by salvotion on Apr 20, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stuff
1) Freel wasn’t knocked out mid-concussion. On the replay, you could see him immediately grabbing the back right corner of his head. I think the pain just drove him down, but he was conscious, at least for a moment
2) Hendrickson did not go 6IP, but given how crappy his first inning was, the fact that he came back and settled the Sox (granted with some luck) was Birdland enough for me. 3ER, 5IP, 6K, 3BB is a decent line this early in the season, and the dude obviously didn’t lay down and quit the way our offense did. He struggled through 103 frigging pitches. Obviously, it’s better to have good stuff, but if you don’t you find a way through, and he did a few times, getting opportune popouts and the like.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on Apr 20, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hendo's a five inning pitcher
Well really he’s a reliever, and not a very good one, but…
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 20, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude! 2 things!
1) Jim Johnson is nice! I will never complain about that dude! The biggest problem with him is he can’t get into the game as our set-up guy because we’ve lost 26 games in a row!
2) If i was Greg ZAUN, i wouldn’t hit for beans either! I’m just not a bean dude.
by FEARtheTERP1 on Apr 20, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fwiw...
hayden penn has allowed no runs in 4 appearances for the marlins, 5k/2bb/1.50whip. six or seven innings, i believe.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 21, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good for him
I hope he does well.
"I think it’s shocking that the Baltimore Orioles are off to a 6-2 start this year, considering they are managed by TJ Hooker."
by Stacey on Apr 21, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he allowed 3 runs in his first appearance
They were just unearned because of two errors early in the inning.
by kba26 on Apr 21, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody mention that we have effectively switched jinxes?
Our third game in the Sawx series did not constitute an exception to the order established by the first two.
I think we can confidently conclude that we now need to solve neither the Sunday Jinx nor the Game Three Jinx, but the Every Day Jinx. Or maybe the Not Good at Baseball Jinx.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Apr 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the latter...
perhaps being the most crucial.
perhaps now w/ montanez and bergesen w/ the big club, the naysayers will momentarily stop their saying of nay.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 21, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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