What I'm Tired Of
I am so tired of announcers and other people say a player is automatically tough because they are from New York. You hardly ever hear it when somebody comes from rougher cities such as Baltimore, Detroit, St Louis, New Orleans. My fiancé from nyc, and I've been there soo many times, its not that bad (safest big city). Will they just shut the hell up about being from NY your automatically a tough kid. Sorry, felt like ranting about this.
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"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 6, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I do get kind of annoyed by NYC’s “tough” reputation. It’s pretty undeserved… Yeah there’s a lot of people so you’ve got to be willing to push your way around, but other than that, it’s not like you’ve got to worry about getting robbed/stabbed at every corner, which is how a lot of people make it out to be. It’s extremely safe. I’m actually (hopefully) moving there this summer, and my dad was like, “You’re not going to end up in some dangerous neighborhood, are you?” Meanwhile, he still lives in the house I grew up in in P.G. County with foreclosures all around him and drug deals going on literally right down the street…
I remember the first time I went to NYC, there was one of those assholes that tries to get you to take “free” tickets to a comedy show, and I just ignored the guy, and he yells, “WHAT, YOU THINK THE BLACK PEOPLE IN NEW YORK WILL JUST LEAVE YOU ALONE IF YOU IGNORE THEM?” I wanted to turn around and say, “Because midtown Manhattan is a bastion of black culture? I’m from Prince George’s County, Maryland. Go look up some stats.” But I just laughed and kept walking.
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by CStoneNo37 on Apr 6, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That post
Was a huge non sequitur. But whatever.
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by CStoneNo37 on Apr 6, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also looking to move to NYC
its just so damn expensive
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by Michael18 on Apr 6, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New York is safer, but not necesarrily safe.
Manhattan, Staten Island and, to a lesser extent, Brooklyn, are factored in when total crime is calculated in NYC, so I’d be willing to bet that the Bronx and Queens aren’t nearly as mellow.
And anyway, chances are that you’re probably hard-nosed coming from New York as it’s very large and making it to the big stage does take some toughness.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Apr 6, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
queens is fine
I spend a fair amount of time there. It’s fine. Most of Brooklyn is fine. All but a tiny part of Manhattan is fine. Staten Island isn’t really the city.
New York was scary in the 70s and 80s, and I think a lot of people are keyed up on that. Post-Giuliani it’s become a lot safer, with a lot of the people who remember the 70s complaining that the city has become too Disneyfied. Personally I don’t mind a little consumerist crap if I’m not getting mugged, but maybe that’s just me. Also since I’m a new arrival I don’t get to be this big elitist jerk who lived through the 70s.
But yeah, I’ve never felt unsafe in New York. Maybe a little creeped out in Bed-Stuy a couple of times, but not really.
by pipkin on Apr 7, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few stats
As of 2007…
City of New York, NY, per capita violent crime:
414.3 crimes per 100,000 population.
Salisbury, MD, per capita violent crime:
790.6 crimes per 100,000 population.
Just sayin’ – who’s tough now?
DATA FROM: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_06.html
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 7, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salisbury's a tough town!
I don’t joke. We had a lot of break ins in my neighborhood when I lived there. Never us, thank goodness.
by Stacey on Apr 7, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
155 burglaries last month
Last MONTH.
On a political note, I’m helping one of the two guys running for mayor, so MAYBE we can start bringing that number down if our guys wins. The other guy’s plan is best described from his speech to the county NAACP: “We need more nighborhood watches like in my neighborhood. When we see someone who looks like he doesn’t belong, we call the cops.” That went over well.
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 7, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more question
Was the place off Smith Street or was it near The Zoo?
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 7, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Across from Bennett Middle
Those little shacks next to Superfresh. I actually only lived there for my senior year, but that’s where we had the crime problem. Before that I lived on Park Ave right off of Mill Street/Camden Ave.
by Stacey on Apr 7, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lived on the one-way part of Camden for a stint. That was a questionable area.
by blawk359 on Apr 7, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salisbury....
second in 2007 only to Baltimore City among municipalities in violent crime incidents, second only to Baltimore City among municipalities in forcible rape incidents, third in the entire state among municipalities in robbery incidents. That’s not per capita, that’s actual number of incidents. Salisbury has 27,000 people in it, and it’s ahead of Annapolis and Frederick in number of incidents.
When looking at acts of violent crime per resident, Salisbury is actually ahead of Baltimore City.
Now who’s tough?
/ All data from the 2007 FBI Uniform Crime Report
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 7, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toughness
Well, certainly not the Salisbury police.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Apr 14, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crime stats were...(since Duck seems to think he speaks foer everyone)
nothing until the inner city trash from Baltimore moved here(Salisbury) with their plethora of fatherless children..and Mexicans working in Poultry plants now we have both black and Latino gangs…
we’ve had two significant StateTrooper killings …both by trash running drugs to NYC
try coming by Salisbury…it is far nicer than most every place I’ve ever owned a home and lived
in spite of what that clown posts
by terpsez11 on Apr 7, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me
Duck is not a clown. He’s lived on the Eastern Shore his entire life and he’s proud of it. Do you not see where he’s helping with the mayoral campaign? He is simply stating facts about his home town, not disparaging it. In fact, you might say he’s even trying to improve where he lives by being involved politically.
But trash Baltimore and all the fatherless children some more, or maybe some poor immigrants. That’s the ticket!
by Stacey on Apr 7, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
I’m glad you got to this guy first. You showed admirable restraint. I’m ashamed to have this clown associated with my beloved alma mater, baseball team, and camden chat.
by pipkin on Apr 7, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to re-write it a few times
Sometimes it’s hard to respond with what I think without sinking to a lower level, but I try.
by Stacey on Apr 7, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a native of Salisbury
a graduate of Maryland (love the login name, by the way) and the chief speechwriter for teh guy WHO JUST WON ELECTION as the mayor of Salisbury, I humbly submit…
You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. How about looking up crime stats and FBI data before making pronouncements? It’s like those who say Jack Morris belongs in the Hall of Fame for one World Series game…
Oh, wait…
And point to one instance where I presumed to talk for everyone. One, please. Even 5th graders have to show their work.
Bet you voted for Comegys, didn’t ya?
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 8, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
Nothing says payback like a 59%-41% win.
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 8, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mayor duck! congrats!
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on Apr 8, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, no
I’m the guy behind the guy behind the guy. No public office for me, thankyouverymuch.
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 8, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy's entitled to his opinion
You can disagree with it, or with the way he expresses it, but he is still entitled to his opinion and to express it… however distasteful it may be.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on Apr 8, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he is....
….as stupid, racist and unenlightened as his opinion may be. And I’m entitled to tell him to shut up and call him and idiot.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 8, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
***an idiot
I’ll say it again. He’s an idiot.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 8, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehe...Jim Calhoun
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Apr 8, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
If he’d like to go stand out on a street corner and filibuster to the people, I don’t give a shit. Here he’s only told to shut up. And also banned, partly because he had to call duck a clown at the end for no particular reason. The post is also close enough to being racist that it just doesn’t belong here.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 8, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose its good that you banned him
But I would’ve liked to see him try to defend himself, too.
by pipkin on Apr 8, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow I just warned him
SC is so much meaner than me.
by Stacey on Apr 8, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m big on the nip in the bud strategy. I don’t want him to defend himself if that’s the stance he’s defending.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 8, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant for the humor value
not the contribution to any sort of meaningful discourse.
also i like to get all worked up and angry sometimes.
by pipkin on Apr 8, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna get in on this one
STFU + GTFO!!!!!!@@
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Apr 8, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway
My point was that people from Queens/The Bronx shouldn’t be mixed up with those from Staten Island/Manhattan.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on Apr 8, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but
Baltimore, DC, New Orleans have way more crime per capita (however you spell it). How come they only say when they are from ny they are tough. That is what gets annoying.
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by Michael18 on Apr 6, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 7, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haven't you heard?
If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere!
by Stacey on Apr 7, 2009 4:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Tough, Born in NYC and a Orioles Legend! Beat That!!
Thanks for Listening…

Best...Bikini Brief Jim
by Bikini Brief Jim on Apr 7, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I live Baltimore...
…grew up in the area, and just moved back here from NYC after living up there for 15 years. So I know a bit about from whence I speak.
Baltimore is a much tougher town than NYC, to the point where half the city is frankly dangerous and blighted as a result. New York used to be a pretty tough town in the 1970’s, but that got swept away by gentrification, Giuliani etc. Let’s be clear though: Being a tough town is not a good thing. It sucks. Many good people are afraid to live in their own neighborhoods in too many areas of Baltimore. This is nothing to be proud of. It is something to change.
Another observation I can relay is that New Yorkers, in general, are much more aggressive, and often more focused, than Baltimoreans. This is a vast generalization, but it holds very true in my experience. There are simply so many people in NYC, 8 Million+, that you need to be aggressive and efficient to get things done. People in Baltimore are much more laid back, sometimes to the point of laziness or outright incompetence, in a way that simply wouldn’t fly in New York.
But that being said, I love both cities. There’s more to love in New York of course due to the sheer enormity of it. But Baltimore is a terrific city as well.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 8, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhhhh....
…that subject should read “I live in Baltimore”. I need to wake up.
by Jonny Pops on Apr 8, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we just go back to talking about the warriors again?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 8, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WARRIORS!
Come out and PLAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!
"Any guitar solos you hear on the record where it sounds like one note, sounds like Meg White playing guitar -- that's me. Any real guitar solo where a guitar comes in and you go, 'F--k, that sounds awesome!' -- that's not me." - Josh Freese
by duck on Apr 8, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can...you...digittttttttttttt?!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Apr 8, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we....
….do Hollywood Shuffle instead?
by Jonny Pops on Apr 8, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm tough...damn it
Try growing up in town with 1000 people! Graduating high school with 25 people! Trolling three counties to find a girl one of you buddies hasn’t slept with! Summer heat of 110 degrees. Everyone in town and people in other towns knowing not only you, your siblings, your parents and grandparents but every relative you have! Teaching yourself to actually lock your doors once you grow up and move away!
Always trust your cape. -Guy Clark
by BPinOK on Apr 8, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But are you master of livestock large and small
Because that’s tough. Won’t do squat for you out on the streets though. Shit real out chea!
AndHedges: soo... when do I get to throw a couple of pitches and complain about "tightness?"
by CoachOfEarl on Apr 9, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NYC v. Bmore
I dont think NYC is seen as “tough” because of the crime (at least not to those who live in/around it). I can go anywhere in NYC and i’m pretty much fine, where as when I go to Bmore im MUCH more careful as to where I go and how many blocks in each direction I’m willing to travel.
NYC is seen as tough because the people are all self serving jerks (for the most part). If you wanna survive in NYC you have to step on everyone else. Its not cool, but everyone acts like it is. I guess spending 1500/mo. on a 550 square foot studio in a crap section of NYC will make anyone angry, though.
Basically, if you’re willing to push through crowds of poeple without saying excuse me, not smile at anyone, and live in a terrible apartment for 3 times as much as a place twice the size anywhere else, you can be “tough” too.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on Apr 10, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the douchey reputation of New Yorkers is a little overblown
Yeah, people are assertive and impatient, and the horn honking in traffic gets pretty nasty. But most people are very willing to give directions if you stop them and ask for them. I generally find people working at retail checkout counters and food places and stuff to be friendlier than they were in maryland. And living in close proximity to one another has given them a good sense of how to stay out of each others’ way. Things generally run pretty smoothly despite how crowded it is.
Basically, it’s a fast-paced city but people are well-adapted to that. If you don’t do something outlandishly stupid or antisocial people will leave you alone or even be kind to you. I frequently see people helping other people with strollers and luggage and stuff up subway stairs. Everyone understands what it’s like to deal with some of the city’s infrastructure and so are pretty sensitive about that.
by pipkin on Apr 10, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toughness
I understand that there’s a whole complex that most O’s fans have with anything remotely related to New York. I’m ok with that, even if I find it to be silly.
Still, I can’t fathom why you’d want to argue the position that the media recognize Baltimore as a worse city than New York. We’ve got more murders, more violent crimes, more impoverished areas; that makes us TOUGH!
Yeah, bully for us.
Not that I disagree with the state of the city of Baltimore, you understand. But…maybe this is one “victory” that you should just let New York have.
But hey, if it weren’t for Baltimore sterling reputation, we wouldn’t have gotten The Wire (and to a lesser extent, Homicide). So, you see? Someone recognizes the toughness of Harm City.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
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