Bye Dave, My Turn
Well, it seems that year after year the fans are promised a winning season, by saying next year. The years have come and gone & still nothing. Even 3rd place would excite fans. I am now throwing my name into the hat to manage the Birds. Who am I? What experience do I have? Who do I know? What connections? Etc. Etc..
I grew up playing stick ball and curve ball in the city. Playing marathon games it seemed forever and a day. A time when players played for THE LOVE OF THE GAME. NOT for the moola!! Baseball & players have totally RUINED the game.
I am an advocate of EARL WEAVER/BILLY-BALL COMBO managing. Most of todays players have no business in the majors. The will and WANTING to win by hard work and execution have gone out the window. I loved Charlie Finley's approach to the game and gimmicks to get the fans to ENJOY, have FUN, & really want to fill the stands.
If I had the helm, respect, commitment, execution, wanting, and willing to go to any length to get a division title, playoffs, and world series win, would have to be the goal of EVERY PLAYER on the team. There would be no big shots. All players are treated equal and as one. BECAUSE IF WE HAD ONE BIG SHOT OR ONE SMALL SHOT, THEN WE ARE ALL SHOT.
I'm talking about the squeeze, hit & run, steals, and how about fundamental BUNTING. ALL players have to execute a bunt 80% or stay in the minors. I am talking about a rigid, fair, but FUN way to play the game. Always keeping the other team guessing if it could be 2 bunts, a hit and run, and maybe a squeeze that is called off to smack one up the field for playing in close. I'm talking about me getting thrown out of the game more times in a season then Earl did in any season. Knowing that the players worked hard for me to fight for them as they are fighting to bring a championship to all fans who financially pay their salaries. Peter signs the checks, but the fans pay all.
If only I had the birds, the clubhouse would not be a pretty one from the start. Heads will roll and switches to the minors would happen fast. Respect is earned and not given. Twenty years in the military taught a lot and I would try and mold the entire team to want, win, execute, commit, & to be willing to go out each and every day to do THE BEST THEY CAN bring home at least a playoff season and hopefully further, or PACK UP THEIR BAGS and head somewhere else.
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If you advocate for Billyball/Earl Weaver type baseball
then why would you also advocate bunting, stealing, and suicide squeezes. Billy Beane and Earl Weaver hate that stuff.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this is a very confused individual
If anyone in the organization ever comes out in favor of bunting I’ll probably have a stroke
by pipkin on May 1, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Earl Weaver wrote
that the sac bunt had its place, and that place was the bottom of a dark, locked closet. He also hated hit and runs. Is this…is this just drunk typing? I can’t even tell. Hilarious, though.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 2, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ALL players have to execute a bunt 80% or stay in the minors
More or less the worst idea in the history of bad ideas.
by SC on May 2, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you (and the other folks)
actually read this to adequately bash it. I kinda skimmed. I don’t do well with poor prose
by pipkin on May 2, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I like
the passion that you are showing for the team, these ideas just are not realistic. There is only really one thing that the Birds need to be a better team…PITCHING!!
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 2, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're like vultures
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 2, 2009 3:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bunting = Giving away an out
You only get 27 a game. Treat them as precious.
And that “time when players played for the love of the game?”
Yeah, that was you and your buddies playing stickball. That’s why you played, I’m sure. The guys suiting up for the Reds and Yankess and Orioles were totally about getting paid. It was their JOB, after all. I’m sure they loved baseball, but take the paycheck away, and the player went away. I’ve yet to see any player say “Well, you may not pay me, but I’ll still play!”
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 2, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing not to get paid
The majority of players in the Minors do this.
by YardBirds on May 2, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Confused?
Now that I have been given heat from most of you, I do respect your comments. The whole point of my context of Bye Dave, It’s my turn worked to stir the pot. Getting replys that attacked some of, if not all of my points, confused, and may have left some laughing about my writing. If none of my former writing made any sense to you, then I have done what I wanted to do aso to work. Always keeping others second guessing and using psych. It is not so much for how things would really be managed, it is how others were laughing, scratching their heads, and saying none of my points would be serious. There is more to managing then pitching, hitting, offense, and defense. Developing and using each and every player to their max potential, and knowing each as individuals, on and off the field. Motivating all players each and every day also. Laugh & joke by my comments, but I WOULD get the birds no lower than 3rd place the first year & be spoilers.
by imnotjudgin-imjustsayin on May 2, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I said,
I like the enthusiasm. But you are dealing with grown overpaid men whose egos often outweigh their abilities (i.e.-greggzaun.com). Good luck implementing this style of coaching in the major leagues, I just don’t think it would fly.
And by the way, if you can find a way to get THIS team with THIS pitching into 3rd place in the AL East, I would personally craft your Hall of Fame plaque.
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 2, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confident
I want to stir the pot again. If, I did get a chance to manage the O’s, the first thing to do is lead by example. Not, that anyone else will follow suit or even give a second thought. But!!! I would control my salary. In this order: 1st Place-I would get 100%, 2nd place-75%, 3rd place-50%, 4th place-30%, 5th place-zero, nodda, nothing!!! One has to want & achieve success. A lot of people were ridiculed in history during their findings and madness. Only to have them being humble, not lowering their intelligence as others, and going about their business smartly. I would just like to leave a short poem for all the heavy thinkers & doubters laughing at my methodology or what they think what may or may not work if I took over the birds. “Listen with your soul, instead of your mind.” “Your soul hears with eternal wisdom.” “Your mind is a product, of conditioning & time.”
by imnotjudgin-imjustsayin on May 2, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the MLBPA
might have something to say about a manager trying to determine his player’s salaries based on the performance of the team.
Everybody here is passionate about the Os and the internet is meant for all of us who think we could do a better job as GM or manager than the guys actually doing it. It’s just probably not usually true.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still haven't explained
how your going to incorporate basestealing and bunting into your Bilyball/Earl Weaver managing style.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 3, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get big fat guys who can hit homers
and then use them to hit and run. duh.
by pipkin on May 3, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showing The Hand
First of all, I want to correct some context that was too far read into about the salary. I did not say that the players or MLBPA would have anything to do with MY SALARY. The percent that was given by me, was of my own statements if steering the O’s.
Second, how about those RANGERS last night!!! Gee, if I recall, a SACRIFICE bunt was executed to PERFECTION in the inning. And the base-runner scored. So much for my thinking. OH!!! I will probably get the motor boats saying, but, but, but. And of course the world famous would of, could of’s. BUT!! The fact is the bunt worked. Enough said.
Third, to explain to someone how to incorporate basestealing & bunting would be showing my hand. I have never heard of anyone telling the opposing team their strategy on winning games. CAT & MOUSE always in each and every game.
Soooooooooooooo, on with the continual bashing of my writings. OH!! BTW, 1 month of observing the O’s 24/7, and only 10 games to manage to show what winning, excitement, & getting all of B’more thrilled again with the O’s is all it will take. Then we can talk contract for another year. The first 10 games are on the house.
The O’s cannot do any worse. It would be all uphill. Why? I know the secret to success in winning.
by imnotjudgin-imjustsayin on May 3, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By your logic
since Ellsbury succeeded in stealing home last week, everyone should try to steal home because it worked once. Enough said, right?
Sorry I misinterpreted your statements about whose salary would be controlled. It isn’t hard to do with your “style.”
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 3, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I get it now:
Step 1: Bunt a lot.
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Win ballgames
by pipkin on May 3, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Wasn’t that the title of Earl’s memoir – “Bunt A Lot, Win Ballgames”? I
by Mountian Goats on May 3, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what would go great with this?
A pin-up of Angelos with removable velcro clothing á la “Major League”. If that managerial trick doesn’t get them motivated, then I don’t know what will.
by The Sicilian on May 3, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Mr Angelos is seroius turning the O’s into a winner you hire John Gibbons as new O’s manager. John Gibbons was a former Blue Jays manager. John Gibbons would put disapline on O’s players and make them play hard and agressive like the game is supposed to be played.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 4, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John Gibbons is a psychopath
Pardon me, but I’d rather not have my manager getting in fistfights with the players. Billy Martin’s long gone.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on May 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, what?
John Gibbons punched a player! He’s insane.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he going to
punch talent into our pitchers? If not, I’m not sure how he fits.
by DT711 on May 4, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank Kush was a Baltimore Colts coach and he slapped a player.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 5, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aaaand John Elway refused to play for him.
And the Colts drafted him anyway, and then traded him for 10 cents on the dollar.
He became one of the all-time great QBs (though still kind of a horse’s ass), and Baltimore lost their football team. Then we got a new one.
I like stories.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on May 5, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Eli Manning is just like him.Now you see why Eli is booed at every NFL stadium where Giants gp on the road.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 5, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has nice teeth though!
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 5, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elway...not sure about Eli's.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 5, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Horses teeth that is

by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 6, 2009 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Elway
is the reason that Darryl Strawberry did drugs.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 6, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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