Orioles 3, Yankees 5: Remember what I said before about 5 inning games?
I left my house today just as Koji finished the 6th inning and the Orioles were up 3-1. I left my beloved birds to see Star Trek with my dad and after seeing the end result, I undoubtedly made the right decision. The movie was awesome and the end of the O's game was definitely not.
Koji Uehara had another good outing today. He's become the most consistent pitcher on the team by far. After allowing a first inning home run to Mark Teixeira, Koji settled down nicely. He allowed six hits but spaced them out perfectly. 2 hits in the first then 1 hit in innings 2-5. He finished the sixth inning 1-2-3. In hindsight it's easy to say that Koji should have been left in for the 7th, but I don't know. He'd thrown 94 pitches and has regularly started to tire around that time. They could have waited for him to show his tiredness, I suppose, but then he'd already be in trouble. I have no beef with him coming out of the game. His final line: 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 5 K.
The bullpen meltdown came from two unlikely pitchers. Jamie Walker was brought in to start the 7th. Jamie has had a great bounce back year so far, having only allowed 1 ER in 13 appearances. He wasn't so effective today, giving up a home run to the slumping Robinson Cano. He did retire Nick Swisher and Melky Cabrera and left the inning to Jim Johnson to close out. Jim had some bad luck as Francisco Cervelli and Derek Jeter both reached on infield hits. Unfortunately not retiring either of those guys left the door open for Johnny Damon who has been on a tear lately. Damon made the O's pay for not retiring Cervelli and Jeter with his 9th home run of the year. That made the score 5-3, where it would stay.
The O's offense of the day came entirely on a 3 run home run by Aubrey Huff in the first inning. With Brian Roberts and Adam Jones on base, Aubrey crushed one to right center field. As he reached first base, Aubrey gave a dramatic fist pump in the direction of Joba Chamberlain and another as he crossed home plate. It was later revealed that the players had a meeting about Joba and how they felt he sometimes showed disrespect with his emotional outbursts. It was apparantly decided in this meeting that the O's would show him what's it like if given the chance, and Aubrey did just that. For the record, here is what Huff had to say after the game:
He does that stuff all the time as a pitcher, so I was just having a little fun with him out there. That’s just part of the game. You get excited in situations like that. I wasn’t showing anybody up. I was just having a good time.
It’s OK if pitchers do it. If batters do it, it’s kind of stupid. Everybody kind of frowns on it. So I wanted to have fun with it. I’m kind of a jokester guy; I enjoy messing around and stuff like that. It wasn’t a shot at him. He can do what he wants out there.
Joba got the last laugh, however, as he didn't allow another run and held on for the win. I think it was Jim Hunter who said that perhaps Aubrey's demonstration gave Joba just what he needed to bear down and be effective. I don't know about that, but I do know that I thought what Aubrey did was awesome, and so did Jim Palmer.
Not too many choices for MBP today, but here we go:
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last laugh!!!
huff was a punk out there today pumping his fists mocking joba. then after the games saying it wasnt a shot at joba, what? that was the least classy thing ive seen this year. but joba got the last laugh. GO YANKEES!!!!
by donnybaseball23 on May 10, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How's 4th place treatin' ya?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 10, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird, I figured Don Mattingly would be articulate than that.
Anybody else?
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
by getxstoked on May 10, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And notice the lack of response.....
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 10, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't really say "hows 4th place treating ya" when we are in 5th (last)
Instead say hows that 100mil pitcher doing?
by Johnny_S on May 10, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure we can
We expected to be here. We have a plan to get out. Yankess? Not so much.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, we have a plan to get out? I missed that memo
by Johnny_S on May 11, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure we do...
is it a perfect plan? no, but i think that’s what i like about it.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 11, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we've based our plan on the CIA's plan to poison Fidel Castro-- which worked, of course...
only very, very slowly.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 12, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The Most Storied Fourth Place Team in the History of Professional Sports Run by Morons
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 11, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Huff and the O's
should focus on stringing a couple of winning records together and leave the example-giving to people with something to brag about.
by providence on May 12, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreover
Here’s the report on what Chamberlain said after the game, btw:
Chamberlain said he didn’t see Huff’s fist pumps, but even if he had, he insisted they wouldn’t have bothered him. “I have no reason to be upset,” Chamberlain said. “He did what he was supposed to do with the pitch and hit a home run. If he wants to do a back flip, he can do a back flip.”
Not a cocky reply. Not a jerk.
And also btw, he never did his celebrating against the O’s, so Huff’s nonsense was really out of place.
by providence on May 12, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the conference
He wasn’t a jerk, but saying “it’s not the last time I’ll face him” or whatever is certainly provocative.
And Huff’s actions were no more nonsense than Joba’s fist pumps in about 20 other games. It doesn’t matter if he’s done it against the Orioles or not—he’s a jackass when he does it, and Huff made a point of showing that.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 12, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankee's fans have no soul
GO ORIOLES!!!!
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 10, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's totally classy when Joba does it, right?
I bet you’re from Jersey, and if I’m right, there’s zero chance that Huff’s fist pump was the least classy thing you’ve seen today, much less all year.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 10, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
no need to dis New Jersey. Some lovely people there.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 10, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that was low
My dad was from Jersey.
But trust me when I say that what I had typed before was a hell of a lot worse.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 10, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo New Yaak!
Take your lil Punk A$$ back to the butthole of the world!
"Don't be mad at me, bow to your majesty, i'm so bright the sun wants to battle me!" Juelz Santana (when he was sick)
by FEARtheTERP1 on May 10, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the joke of baseball. $204 million and a 4th place ball club
"They are who we thought they were"-Dennis Green
by Baysox39 on May 10, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they have their $33M 3B back
So now they can go back to winning the division
/SARCASM
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
by CoachOfEarl on May 11, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tweaking Joba's nose is Birdland
Unfortunately, so are bullpen disasters.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on May 10, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd say Tweaking Joba's nose...
is Nebraska meth-land.
too soon?
by pipkin on May 11, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, not too soon.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave it to Aubrey.
But man, Koji is really our best pitcher this far by a long shot.
こじ うえはら!
by Pack Man on May 10, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Koji.
He is definitely MISTAH SPARKLE!!!
However, I still voted for Huff.
by Y Not on May 10, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Koji
The guy is giving us quality starts almost each time out. He has 1 walk the last 12 innings and I think that one was intentional. No walking batters is enough for me to vote for him everytime out. Remember last season?
"They are who we thought they were"-Dennis Green
by Baysox39 on May 10, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Koji as well
I loved what Huff did, but 1 ER and 6 IP?!?!
THAT IS BIRDLAND.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 11, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats are all well and good...
but Koji would totally have been Birdland if as Teixiera was crossing home plate on his HR he would have kamikazee’d his ass right into the dirt. THAT, would be Birdland.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 11, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huff. No contest.
That shit was Birdland.
"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis
by 2632 on May 10, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PREACH!!
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 11, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i dunno...
it’s a heck of a lot more birdland if huff does that and they win. kinda sorry when he does it and they lose.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 11, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That fist pump made my month
so I voted Huff.
Also, two three run homers in two straight games is not to be underestimated.
by pipkin on May 11, 2009 1:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
I thought it was funny, but really, the Orioles are having team meetings about this??? And then they LOSE? Whatever floats your boat, Orioles.
What I do not understand is what the big goddamn deal is. I don’t like when Joba is celebrating because it’s good for the Yankees. Though it’s hilarious when he does it during a loss. But what I’m wondering is why does baseball have a bug up its ass about this? Have they seen other sports? Ben Gordon grabbing his johnson or every defensive end ever crawling around after a sack in the fourth quarter of a 20 point loss??? Who cares if someone pumps his fist? Or if someone else does it back? Or if someone watches a home run? Get a grip, baseball. Although I will say K-Rod irritates me because with him it’s less “Hooray, my team is victorious!” and more, “LOOK AT ME, K-ROD, GOD WANTS ME TO SAVE GAMES, THAT’S WHY HE GAVE ME A KICK ASS CURVEBALL!”
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 11, 2009 5:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean, obviously I wasn't there
It was reported as a “team meeting” but in my head it was Aubrey Huff talking a bunch of shit in the clubhouse with some other guys around him being “Hell yeah!” But who knows?
I think it’s ridiculous when any player does shit like that, especially when it’s just some run of the mill play. “HOORAY, LOOK AT ME, I DID MY JOB EFFECTIVELY!” Imagine I walked around my office fist pumping every time I made a copy or met a deadline? It’s so dumb.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 11, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only time anything ever irritates me is when LeBron stomps around huffing and puffing like Hulk Hogan.
by SC on May 11, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what if he did it to the sound of "Real American"
would that not be awesome?
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
by getxstoked on May 11, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was reported as a "team meeting" but in my head it was Aubrey Huff talking a bunch of shit in the clubhouse with some other guys around him being "Hell yeah!" But who knows?
Yeah, I about the say the same thing. By “team meeting,” I don’t think Aubrey and his teammates scheduled a time and a place into their outlook calender. It’s probably a bunch of players BSing around about Joba being a jackass.
Although I will say K-Rod irritates me because with him it’s less "Hooray, my team is victorious!" and more, "LOOK AT ME, K-ROD, GOD WANTS ME TO SAVE GAMES, THAT’S WHY HE GAVE ME A KICK ASS CURVEBALL!"
I was thinking the same thing this mornign on the way to work (XM radio was talking about Aubrey this morning). K-Rod is too much. But I’m fine with a fish pump. Although I thought what Aubrey did was hilariously awesome.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
I assume it wasn’t a full-blown meeting, but why publicize it? They look sort of like idiots after losing the game with this story out there. Seems dumb.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 11, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why publicize it?
Not really the player’s choice. A reporter asked him about it and Aubrey responded. And Aubrey gave an extremely PC answer. Aubrey can claim all he wants that he was just trying to have a little fun with Joba but he was clearly trying to show him up.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 11, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What
Wasn’t it reported during the game? Why tell someone that?
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 11, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Palmer was the first
to mention I believe. He was talking about it as it happened. I just figured Palmer was walking through the clubhouse and heard them talk about it and classified it as a meeting.
Did Aubrey talk about it as well…the meeting that is?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 11, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aubrey never mentioned a meeting of any sort
I believe it was Viviano that reported it.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 11, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However he heard it
a player had to tell him it was on the record in order for him to report it. I have a hard time believing otherwise.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was still funny.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 12, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Palmer
doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy that would ask if somethign was on the record. He most likely believes he is above the record. It’s also possible he had a hand in writing the ten commandments.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 12, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a player had to tell him it was on the record in order for him to report it.
That’s not true. Remember the whole brouhaha over some announcer saying that Schilling told the bloody sock was intentional creation.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here we go
a player had to tell him it was on the record in order for him to report it.
I found the link. So the answer to your question is no. In general, announcers won’t report random chatter like who’s sleeping with who but if they figure the information is fun or harmless, they’ll report it, like Palmer did.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how a link
about Gary Thorne making up some bullshit really does anything to help your point, whatever it might be. The Orioles look foolish in this.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a player had to tell him it was on the record in order for him to report it.
It refutes your point that announcers only report “on the record” material and that they do in fact report off the cuff comments occassionally. In this case, Mirabelli made an off the cuff comment, and Thorne reported. The reliability of offf the cuff comments is, of course, another matter.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
OR Mirabelli never said anything of the sort.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, absolutely, but Thorne’s actions says announcers are willing to engage in such behavior. Thorne thought he was reporting off the cuff chatter. Like I already said, the reliability of such information is another story.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m referring to Aubrey’s quote. Obviously, that must have been given after the game. Announcers can speculate all they want during the game. An announcers may have heard random chatter from Aubrey and other players before the game but that isn’t Aubrey’s official story. In any case, the players aren’t the ones trying to publicize the incident.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm not referring to Aubrey's quote
but thanks for bringing it up? If this got on TV, some player said, “Hey, guess what we’re going to do!” Come on. For a non-competitive team to do that and then LOSE on top of it does not look good, funny, “deserved” or not.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what you’re talking about. There was no team meeting right? It’s agreed that a bunch of O’s players informally said to each that they were going to show up Joba. Right? Aubrey hits a homer and carries that out plan. At the time he hit the home run, he did not know the O’s would lose the game. Jim Palmer during the game mentions that the O’s hate Joba and wanted to show him up. We’re pretty much agree that there was no “team meeting” and that he was just reporting clubhouse chatter. I don’t see how any part of this narrative suggests that the O’s were looking to “publicize” (your words) the incident. Some reporter asked Aubrey about the fist pump after the game and Aubrey gave some BS PC answer. He clearly wasn’t looking to “publicize” the incident. A reporter asked a question, he responded with a polite answer.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you have
a pretty naive understanding of how information gets out of the clubhouse. Regardless, I would be somewhat embarassed as a fan to have won this small victory and then lost the game, because it’s true: why not BS in the clubhouse about getting some people out or scoring more runs?
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you are lucky
you don’t have to be a fan of such a shitty team.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 12, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh
There are plenty of things way more embarrassing about this team than Aubrey Huff having a little fun. That said, it certainly would have been a better story if the O’s could have won. But I hardly blame that on the fact they were talking about Joba in the clubhouse instead of scoring runs.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 12, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I hardly blame that on the fact they were talking about Joba in the clubhouse instead of scoring runs.
Seriously, who cares what players chat about in the clubhouse. O’s players, Red Sox players, Marlines players, whoever, all talk about random crap in the clubhouse. Some of it if fun like the players thinking Joba is a douche, but most of it trivial.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you would all
have the same attitude if the roles were reversed. Right on. Orioles are all righteous, smart and good.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 13, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and God's chosen people
You forgot that part.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 13, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
God’s Wieter’s chosen people
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 14, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty naive understanding of how information gets out of the clubhouse.
Thanks for the personal attack but how did the information get out then if it wasn’t an announcer picking up on informal chatter. You think this was a calculated plant by O’s players? In other words, the player orchestrated with the media before the game to order to “publicize” Joba’s antics?
Regardless, I would be somewhat embarassed as a fan to have won this small victory and then lost the game
I don’t know why it would be embarrasing. Aubrey didn’t know he was going to lose the game when hit the homer. In any case, I mostly just see it as funny incident.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine
an announcer who heard something interesting would ask if it were on the record before reporting it. Announcers and reporters don’t go around regurgitating everything they hear or pretty soon they’ll hear nothing. Seems like common sense.
In other words, the player orchestrated with the media before the game to order to "publicize" Joba’s antics?
I don’t know what this means. I’m talking about the Orioles’ plan to show up Joba coming out during the game. Why would you conceivably want this public? It makes the Orioles look, rightly or wrongly, like they are more concerned with showing up the other team in an amusing manner than winning. Is that the image a team would want to have after a decade of losing?
Aubrey didn’t know he was going to lose the game when hit the homer.
And that’s why you don’t want the story publicized during the game.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
an announcer who heard something interesting would ask if it were on the record before reporting it.
Well, I would imagine whoever said Joba is a douche would say no, please do not report on the record that I, Aubrey Huff (as an example), said that Joba is a douche.
I don’t know what this means
You’re not being clear about you’re arguing so I made a guess, if I guessed wrong, my bad.
Why would you conceivably want this public? It makes the Orioles look, rightly or wrongly, like they are more concerned with showing up the other team in an amusing manner than winning.
it’s just a fun screw you… it’s not an either or situation ("more concerned with showing up the other team in an amusing manner " OR “winning”). Besides, I don’t think most people interpret it as Aubrey being more concerned with showing up the other team than winning.
And that’s why you don’t want the story publicized during the game.
And that’s beyond Aubrey’s control. He can’t control what the announcers say.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s beyond Aubrey’s control. He can’t control what the announcers say.
Um, yes he can. He can tell them this is off the record. You don’t think announcers overhear players talking crap about other players at any other time? When was the last time you heard that come up during a broadcast?
I’m just telling you I would be amused when this happened and then mortified when my team lost the game. You clearly don’t agree, which says enough to me.
by Awesome Mike Awesome on May 12, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, yes he can. He can tell them this is off the record. You don’t think announcers overhear players talking crap about other players at any other time? When was the last time you heard that come up during a broadcast?
Come on, look, you’re right in that players should be careful talking. But how do we even know that Aubrey wasn’t being careful. Maybe he was being careful, Jimbo overhead the conversation anyways and reported it. My point is that players talk shit in the locker room and media folks sometimes pick up on it. They can’t police every single thing they say in the locker room and by following up with a reporter with, “hey, did you over hear what I say, You know not to report it right?”
I’m just telling you I would be amused when this happened and then mortified when my team lost the game. You clearly don’t agree, which says enough to me.
WTF is up that snarky comment. In any case, I love you too man.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 12, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think a fish pump is great.
it aerates the water for the fish so they can breathe better.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 11, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, i'm terrible.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 12, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fish pump is, in fact, a fist pump after three vodka Molotovs and a beer chaser
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 12, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A "team meeting"
which is what the O’s called it, sounds like more than an impromptu BS session.
How about a team meeting on scoring some runs and getting some pitching?
by providence on May 12, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
Maybe the Yankees should have a team meeting on how they have the worst ERA in baseball while spending the most money.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 12, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or how about...
why the fuck does anyone that is not an o’s fan care what the o’s and their fans think? boy, prov…you REALLY showed us!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, jq
I live in the area and actually like the Os — not my favorite team, but I like them and think the manager’s a stand up guy and they have some fun players. I just think the Huff thing was total bush league. He’s been struck out by fist pumpers from way back — KRod and Papelbon to name two. But he picks this guy to do his act on. Bush league. The O’s ought to meeting on playing better, not on how to “get back” at Joba. It’s a loser mindset. It’s also why they haven’t won anything in decades.
by providence on May 14, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bush League=
Yelling “I Got it!” at a Third Baseman trying to catch a pop up as you, a baserunner, round third base.
Bush League also = trying to slap the ball out a first baseman’s glove, which is trying to tag you, in a playoff game.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 14, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I got it"
is bush league, I agree.
by providence on May 15, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
The Orioles “haven’t won anything in decades” * because they don’t “meet on playing better” and they have a “loser mindset.” It has nothing at all to do with their farm system being decimated, or with a certain hack team cherrypicking everyone else’s developed talent every year, or with an interfering owner making bad baseball decisions.
Nope, it’s all about Aubrey Huff’s “bush league” behavior. Got it.
DAMN YOU AUBREY!!!!!!
* Except for 1996 and 1997
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 14, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is reflective
of a mindset. The loser farm system (until lately — they are producing some talent now), the owner, the tradition of losing (eg, the failure in the ‘96 and ’97 playoffs) all feed into a loser mindset. Holding team meetings about what to do about Joba’s fist pumping is a loser mindset.
The O’s look like they are starting to turn it around (Roberts, Markakis, Jones, Weiters, Reimold), and if Tillman and some young pitchers produce they can be the ’08 Rays in three years. But Huff trying to show up Chamberlain — when his own team is in the cellar again, the pitching stinks, etc — is the old loser mindset. Better that he leads by example and shows some class.
Like I said, I like the O’s — not my favorite team, but one of them. But they should play like winners and forget this stuff.
by providence on May 15, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Koji, of course. Huff's gesture was fun, but in vain. We, um, lost-- and Joba, who was awful, won. Koji got classically Guts-ed.
For those who had the volume turned down at the end of yesterday’s thread, WE LOST THIS F*CKING GAME ABOUT FOUR TIMES— BEFORE THE BULLPEN GOPHER BALLS.
The scoring opportunities in the 3rd and 4th required serious effort to ignore. The hard-to-fan Brian Roberts strikes out on an 88-footer than bounces to the plate. Mr. Patient Hitter and Previously Successful Bunter Memlo decides “I am swinging at ANYTHING, I don’t care what it is!”— and sure enough, stretches full out to get his bat on ball four, succeeds, taps back to to the mound and then….well, because he’s, y’know, So Darn Angry about it, he searches furiously for the molasses patch between home and first, finds it and waddles down the line being Just So Angry at Himself that he manages to get doubled up despite weak throws on both links of the 1-6-3. Classic.
But c’mon. While that stuff’s barely credible, stop a minute: seriously— has anyone here EVER seen anybody THROWN OUT ON A WALK?!? And people want to complain about the bullpen?!?
OK, what the f*ck, let’s talk bullpen. On Yerkee radio Suzyn Wombat couldn’t stop apologizing for the two “hits” before the Johnny Jerkoff homer that ended the game. And the second, for that matter, only became a hit — according to Our Gal Suze, I haven’t seen a replay — because B-Rob didn’t throw as hard as he could to first, apparently thinking he had plenty of time “because it was the catcher running.” Turns out Cervelli is, in the words of John Sterling “not fast for a catcher, just fast.” If there’s even a grain of truth in that, what the f*ck does this loss have to do with the bullpen?
This Yerkee “victory” was one of those that are unique to baseball. In no other sport can a team be so wholly out of contention in the course of a single contest, having conceded the fundamental confrontation at the heart of the sport— pitcher vs. batter; Joba was terrible, with 9 H, 2 BB, HBP — and yet the score (3-1 in the instance) can still not reflect the state of play sufficiently to put the contest beyond “redecision” in favor of the losing team. With a lot of help from the refuse-to-take-yes-for-an-answer opponents, of course.
This can only happen in a sport in which very bad teams can and do win 40% of their games. Kinda nutty, yeah, but it’s part of the package that is baseball. Do you have to give Joba credit? Yep: the old saw about one sign of a great athlete is his ability to win when performing badly happens to be true. Oh, and is it also true that we f*cked our own damn selves Right in the Ear? You bet it is.
It’s all right officier, I’ll go quietly now.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 11, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Regarding the Cervelli 'single'
BRob was playing really deep, and with the slow infield and the fact that it was a roller hit to the 3/4 gap, is what turned it into a hit. Bob could have charged it more aggressively, I’ll agree, but I think that’s one of those OPACY infield grass hits. That was the first one, then The Captain hit one about 45 feet into no mans land. Both were as cheap as cheap hits come.
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
by CoachOfEarl on May 11, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is something to consider...
if they’re scared of balls going out in right and are stocking up the staff w/ sinkerballers, doesn’t it stand to reason that the infield turf should be quicker?
ag experts, speak up…does this mean maybe cutting it a little closer?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 11, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thx for the background. It really was odd to hear Wombat apologizing for these two bleeders, and then Sterling
waxing philosophical about baseball being such a strange sport, with games won by hits like these. They couldn’t believe what they were seeing themselves— and not just that inning, but over the previous five. They had said things like “Is the score really 3-1?”, “Yeah, it feels like a lot more.”
A very, very Twilight Zony contest. Everybody in the park knew the score was 8-1 after 4…but the news somehow never got to the scoreboard.
This was not a good game to be followed by a day off to ponder it. Wait, maybe that’s EXACTLY what it was. Maybe it really was SO BAD, on SO MANY LEVELS, that the Orioles will now HAVE to play fundamental baseball, and with their heads up while they’re at it. Um, ri-i-i-i-i-ight. C’mon, a guy can dream, can’t he?
How can I still be so pissed about this essentially insignificant 1/162nd of the season? Easy. I’ve had 11 years of practice.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 12, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Pie has a career day and nobody votes for him. Hmmph.
I mean, he took a walk from Mariano Rivera.
I say give him another 50 ABs based just on that.
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
by CoachOfEarl on May 11, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that Scott is hurt
and Montanez is Montanez and Reimold has cooled off…eff it why not.
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 11, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cooled off is a relative term, though
He hasn’t homered for a week or so, but he’s still hitting .333 with 8 walks and only 6 Ks over his last 10 games. He’s got to string a couple more o-fers together before we’d actually call him “cold.”
A Lou/Wigginton/Pie shuffle at LF and DH is probably going to be an offensive problem, though. I wouldn’t want to rely on that for a month if Scott’s injury is that serious — I’d support getting Reimold up for good in that case (he’s 25, so the service time stuff isn’t as big an issue). But if we’re talking a couple of weeks, then I’d leave him down to see how he adjusts to the league’s adjustment to him (which is apparently pitching around him as much as they can).
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on May 11, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
pretty clear that pitchers are throwing him garbage since he’s eclipsed his walk total for the first 20 games in the last 9.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 11, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look back at last year
Reimold went through similar dry spells while with Bowie. Whenever the guy homered, he homered in droves for a few weeks on end before eventually cooling off. As a fan living in the Central PA region, I was fortunate to catch Bowie in Harrisburg quite a few times last year. The guy pretty much owned Harrisburg. Plus you have to take into consideration that pitchers are probably beginning to nibble with him a bit in an effort to keep him in the park. If he can adapt to this quickly and be patient, I do not see why he wouldn’t regain his power stroke soon.
by blipcrip26 on May 12, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope he keeps it up. It’ll be interesting to see which of Pie, baba Lou, or Reimold get the majority of LF ABs.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 11, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Pie and Montanez can split LF for now
Let’s bring up some pitching and see if Nolan can build on his one month AAA career
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
by CoachOfEarl on May 11, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we might as
well wait a few years to call up Reimold until the team needs a “veteran presence.”
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 11, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I originally voted for Koji
But had I thought about it a bit more, I would have given Aubrey Huff the vote.
I say all batters for every team should pump their fist at Joba during every at bat, even when they ground out or pop up. And, while their running to first, they can say, “Hey, Joba, your mom got any good meth I can score after the game?”
by Fred Sanford on May 11, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs















