Dave Trembley has got to go!
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 13, 2009 10:33 PM EDT
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Print4 Runs in the 9th! why didnt he get the bullpen going? Is he stupid or what? Im Watched the game on Rays TV network. Dave Trembley is another peabrain like Joe Altobelli was.We Could had won it in the 9th. John Gibbons would not allow McCroy pitch in the 9th. He would simply put Sherill in and let him have his first win.Troy Percival is one of the best bullpen closers in the game and the O's score 3 off him! So Peter please Fire Dave Trembley! Good things happen when you fire a loser. The Ravens did!!! Steve Biscotti fired that sore idiot loser Brian Billick and the Ravens almost went to the Super Bowl last year! So Mr Angelos please do the right thing,,,Fire Dave Trembley ,,Donald Trump would!
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"Good things happen when you fire a loser"
oh yea, totally. like when they fired perlozzo. and mazilli. and hargrove. oh yea, and miller.
lots of good stuff happened then.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
May i remind you The Ravens almost went to the Superbowl. You think Billick would allow Flacco QB for the Ravens? Hell no his main man would be Troy Smith. Dave Trembley is just like Brian Billick. Brian Billick says "" I know Quarterbacks"" Sure he does,,Just like He let Trent Dilfer go after he won the Superbowl and he wanted that Elvis QB! And He let Derrick Anderson get away from the Pratice Squad and he became a Starter for the Cleveland Browns. And Trembley claims he knows about the game. Sure he does,,,Just like he let McCroy pitch 4 runs in the 9th and we come back lose by 2!! So hes got to go!!!
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 13, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
May I remind you
that the Ravens already had one of the best defenses in the league and a pretty solid O-line, not to mention a good running game made great with the likes of Ray Rice and Le’ron McClain. Oh yea, there’s also the fact that that happened in the NFL, a league made for parity, and the O’s play in the MLB, a league where the gaps between teams are huge and long running. There really aren’t many similarities between the O’s and the Ravens. Gibbons would NOT make the 09 O’s winners.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
The Ravens going 5-11 in 2007
was thanks to injuries, a tough schedule and alotta bad breaks i.e. Phil Dawson hitting the upright and making a kick.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Billick, Trembley, and Reality
Not that I care for the Ravens, but I love how the Ravens “almost went to the Super Bowl” (translation: didn’t go to the Super Bowl) after firing the coach that led them to a Super Bowl victory, and this is seen as an improvement.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Harbaugh is some kind of colossal failure, but neither is he Vince Lombardi resurrected. As far as whether Billick would start a rookie QB, it seems to me he did that very thing with Kyle Boller back when.
Anyone who is out for blood based on a game in May with a team that’s rebuilding needs to take a deep breath, calm down, and be patient.
And appealing to Peter Angelos…that’s rich. As if he’s keen on appealing to the fans.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on May 14, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well said...
Anyone who is out for blood based on a game in May with a team that’s rebuilding needs to take a deep breath, calm down, and be patient.
by Mountian Goats on May 14, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Point of order...
…the only reason Flacco started in ‘08 was because Boller and Smith were unable to play. It wasn’t some shrewdly brilliant move by Harbaugh. Boller was out for the year, Smith was seriously sick & wasn’t even at playing weight.
You could have put a monkey at coach & he’d have been forced to make the same move.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Remember Casey Bramlet?
The emergency QB they brought into camp for one week because he knew Cameron’s offense? He played sorta OK and the talk radio caller brain trust was breathing fire when we cut him. Oh, fun memories.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
We're comparing
Bisciotti to Angelos. It is not just apples and oranges, it is simply not fair.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 15, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Because there was no one else out there.
When you have a starter go 2 innings the night before, your bullpen gets a wee bit taxed, but of course, let’s just throw Sherrill, Johnson, and Baez out there everyday until their arms fall off.
Perhaps you should take some time and become a Reds fan, I hear Dusty Baker enjoys letting his pitchers arms get to the point of uselessness.
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
+2
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
by CoachOfEarl on May 14, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
hell...
seeing we got some thoroughbred arms coming up, let’s just hire dusty away from the reds. he’ll show those pussy college boys what it means to be tough!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 14, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell em if they don't like it
we’ll trade em to the Rangers
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
by CoachOfEarl on May 14, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The Baltimore Press are not tough!
Lets Face it,,,If Dave Trembley was Manager for the Yanks or Mets the NY Times,NY Daily News, WNBC Sports Reporter Len Berman would be Jumping all over on Dave Trembley and to get George to Fire him. George Steinbrenner listens to the press. If he doesnt not like what he sees or reads in the newspapers he takes action!
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 13, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Thank God!
I wouldn’t be an O’s fan if our owner based his decisions on what newspapers say instead of listening to his hired staff that you know get paid to lead the team in the right direction
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
George Steinbrenner can't even feed himself anymore
much less read the papers, make decisions, breath without drooling, or control his bowels. He isn’t hiring or firing anyone anymore.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 14, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
If I wanted to listen to the NY media
I’d live in NY.
Believe it or not, many of us PREFER not to live in New York or have New York culture thrust upon us. I listen to NASCAR to hear people talk normal.
So you can keep your NY media, thankyouverymuch.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
And managing by media reaction
is a recipe for disaster.
“What? The Sun says we shoulda used someone else in the 8th last night? FIRE THE PITCHING COACH!!!! ARGH!!!!!”
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Absolutely right
After the collapse of ‘07 the squawk radio yammerheads up here were howling for Willie Randolph’s head all day, every day. And, eh, someone remind me again how Sep. ’08 worked out for Manuel.
Of course if you kiss the right asses and put up with “if you could be any kind of tree…” questions instead of insisting that they stick to, well, baseball, you can get away with murder. Torre excelled at this, which is why he was considered John McGraw, Casey Stengal & Walter Alston all rolled into one. Even though he applied the “Bradbury Doctrine” to all relievers not named Rivera – “burn them to ashes and then burn the ashes.”
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Hard to blame the manager
When there are no players that can get the job done…
MacPhail needs to go make something happen before Dave can take the blame
The bats would’ve stunk had the game been close anyways… that’s just how it works
If Chris Thomas was still alive and if he Stayed on WBAL TV he would be pointing fingers at Dave Trembley just like he pointed fingers at Bob Irsay and Joe Altobelli.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 13, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
Shut up.
Just shut up.
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
The Ghost of Vince Bagli
will compel PA to fire Trembley.
Wait? He isn’t dead? We sure about that?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
i deride his truth-handling ability.
i mock his value system.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 14, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
not actually listeneing to this guy
The Orioles’ lack of pitching talent is not something that another round of musical managers can fix.
"Whether your name is Gehrig or Ripken, DiMaggio or Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do."
hmmm?
Blamin the old ball coach?….what about blaming the guy throwing the ball off of peoples bat?
"Don't be mad at me, bow to your majesty, i'm so bright the sun wants to battle me!" Juelz Santana (when he was sick)
The Ravens did!!! Steve Biscotti fired that sore idiot loser Brian Billick and the Ravens almost went to the Super Bowl last year! So Mr Angelos please do the right thing,,,Fire Dave Trembley ,,Donald Trump would!
I quoted this, and also put the hilarious parts in bold. As if you didn’t notice that already..
What up?
And the use of extraneous commas
makes his points much more logical, I think.
Donald Trump? The same guy that chose Joan Rivers over annie Dukes when Annie raised 3X as much at her charity fundraiser? The same one who keeps bankruptcy lawyers on retainer 24/7? Yeah, that’s a guy I’ll take baseball advice from.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Can I ask when exactly the last time Percival was "one of the best bullpen closers in the game"???
Are we back in 2002???
last year...
in the tea and crumpets league. sorry, but has anyone ever considered how not baseball a name troy percival is? great for the name of the costar in an errol flynn movie, could be a decorated winger in the english premier league, but troy percival…baseball player? hmm.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 14, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
If Trump would do it I definitely say NO!
"Honestly, I get tired driving 26 miles. I couldn’t imagine running it." -- Huffy
Well Some good stuff came out of this. Trembley told McCroy hes going down to Norfolk
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions
Also
Trembley has agreed to talk to you about your grammar.
"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."
I am itching to pull the trigger on a certain someone...
….deep, cleansing breaths. Deep, cleansing breaths.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
insanity later.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 14, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It's amusing
and there’s no law (or subcommittee rule) against stupid arguments.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
How about the same stupid argument over and over again?
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
half of us would be gone
IE “Montanez is great!”, “Everything is Trembley’s fault!”, “Pedro Martinez would make this team a winner!”, etc…
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
my point exactly
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
You have to admit though, last night was a little rediculous. Trembly left McCroy in there to dry, and pretty much gave up on the game in the 9th. You can’t leave a guy in there after he gives up 3 walks and a past ball to 3 out of 4 batters, you just can’t. Another thing that pissed me off was his decision to take Uehera out of the game Sunday after 6. Takes him out and our bullpen gets shelled in the 7th. I just think his managing has been very questionable as of late. How hurt in Adam Jones by the way?
by easternshore oriole on May 14, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
have you seen koji pitch after the 6th? not pretty.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
not relevant
koji was dealin’. you can’t base everything on numbers. on a certain day, a pitcher may well be comfortable enough to pitch a complete game even though their last three games have been crap. you don’t manage solely by statistics, it’s moronic.
that said, my understanding is that koji himself admitted he was tired.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
and...
i think trembley’s comments that he’s trying not to kill the guy in his first couple months of american ball make sense.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 14, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He's been a reliever for 2 years
Hasn’t thrown over 85 IP in 2 years?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
obviously
but my point wasnt that because he’s sucked after the 6th before, that you dont ever pitch him more than 6. just that keeping him in wasnt necessarily going to give positive results. Then everyone would be saying “Trembley sucks! Koji is crap after 6 and he kept him in! Waaa!” All i’m saying is don’t assume the decision was wrong just because the bullpen didn’t hold up its end of the bargain.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
I agree with that, but why change something when there’s nothing wrong with it. Back in the day Earl Weaver would have never taken a guy out if he was pitching that well.
by easternshore oriole on May 14, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
Earl Weaver never had a pitcher
who was:
A: a 1-inning reliever the past two years
AND
B: used to a longer rest between starts
AND
C: showing a history of running badly out of gas around 85 pitches
and if he had a pitcher with all three of those things Earl might very well take him out, because in spite of what so many people seem to think Earl played the damn percentages and that’s what made him such a good manager.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 14, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe we should keep him around until he actually has a good ball club that knows how to play baseball. Once the players are in order, perhaps then we can micromanage the manager and second guess his every decision.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
+1
I’ve yet to see Diamond Dave make a blunder the magnitude of Sammy pulling Guthrie in the ninth inning in Boston with a 5-0 lead and less than 100 pitches.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
nobody else sucks that hard though
except maybe with that pedro fiasco in boston, and the mets in general.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
25 Years ago.. Baltimore fans rather go to an Orioles game than a Colts game. Now ,,Baltimore fans rather go to an Ravens game than an Orioles game. See the differance? 25 years ago Colts play like a bunch of Jokers on the field,,Now,, The O’s play like a bunch of Clowns on the field. The point im making nobody wants to see a team doesnt play well except for New Yorkers theyre go no matter what.Just look at the NY Knicks for example. Madison Sqaure Garden is always sold out when the Knicks play like Jesters on the court.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
Oh my Gosh, really?
You mean good teams attract more fans? STOP THE PRESSES! An important breakthrough has just been made.
Firing Trembley ain’t gonna put buts in the seats either.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
But John Gibbons would make em play harder and turn this ballclub around.Remember how Billy Martin did it on the A`s back in early 80s? A`s drew only 5,000 a game before Billyball came. And Fans didnt like Charley Finley. And when he hired Billy Martin he turned the A`s around. He make Pitchers work hard,,Rookies work hard and he didnt want to heard any excuses. I remember Ricky Henderson got yelled at by Billy Martin boy did he start to steal bases. Billy Martin is the guy who can light a fire in your eyes and then you really play hard.Now just imagine John Gibbons is O’s manager and during those workouts he tells them lets ,,Do it again!!! Were be here all day until you get it right. And Imagine John Gibbons making O’s players sweat to death in spring training and will do long workouts. By the time the players get though all of this theyre be real angry and start to play angry and then youll start winning. The A’s players didnt like Billy,,The Yanks didnt like Billy. The Jays didnt like John Gibbons and the O’s will hate him too and but theyre start winning. John Gibbons is like a marine drill sergent. Just go and ask those soldiers how they feel about the Drill Sergent theyre tell you they hate his guts. And get this,,,The Blast Players one time didnt like Kenny Cooper. Back in 1984 Blast were on a 10 game losing streak,, Kenny didnt like losing a bit. So one day he took em out to Federal Hill and do those excerizes and the players got angry cause they did an extreme hard workout. Chris Thomas on channel 11 showed this,,He said the next game will be good trust me!! And the Blast won 10-4 over pittsbugh that night.So Tough coaches can turn a team around just like Mike Ditka did to the Bears And Billy Martin did to the A`s.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
Just one thing
use the Baseball-reference.com to find out what happened to Martin’s pitching staff in Oakland.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
NEWS BULLETIN
Disregarding, for just a second, the complete lack of logic in your arguments, let me point out the obvious:
JOHN GIBBONS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM.
THEREFORE, HE IS NOT AVAILABLE TO MANAGE THE ORIOLES.
THEREFORE, IF WE FIRE DAVE TREMBLEY, JOHN GIBBONS WILL NOT BE TAKING HIS PLACE.
Next!
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
I picture you looking more and more like Stacey’s avatar with every one of this guy’s posts.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
yup, that's about right.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Dude
JOHN GIBBONS SUCKED WITH THE JAYS
What dont you get? You think the revolving manager door is a way better way to run a team? Lets try this one for a little while, k?
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
And you think Tony LaRussa wants to come to the Orioles?
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
i think we’re quite fine with diamond dave. when the arms get here and we actually have more to worry about then the difference between 4th and 5th, then we’ll see if he’s worth holding on to. who knows, maybe john gibbons will be available by then and you can rejoice.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
But John Gibbons said he wants to Manage again. And when Peter fires Dave then he’ll give Mr Gibbons a call. John Gibbons is a bullpen coach for the Royals. you really think he wants to remain a Bullpen coach? Look what happened Ravens coach Rex Ryan. He was under contract. Now he went to the NY Jets as an Head Coach. And the samething can happen to John Gibbons. He can take that Managers job when a new club wants him reguardless what kind of a contract has has right now. If Rex Ryan can leave while still under contract so can John Gibbons.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
In the NFL, I think you have to let your under-contract assistants interview for a job that would be a promotion. (For example, linebackers coach to defensive coordinator), but for a lateral move, you have the option to give them permission. Could be wrong about that.
I don’t know the rules for MLB, but wasn’t John Gibbons kind of a douchebag, anyway?
If Dave gets fired, probably one of the current coaches takes over for the rest of the year. I’d like to see Chris Hoiles get an interview, but since he’s got no experience at all in MLB-affiliated ball, he probably wouldn’t. At least Chris Hoiles is cool.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
he's a bench coach, not a bullpen coach.
facts. they are your friends.
Oh, and by all means, let’s put THIS guy in charge of our team:
On May 28, 2005, Gibbons chastised former Toronto starter Dave Bush in the dugout after the right-hander showed his displeasure on the mound about being removed from a game. The next day Bush was sent to the minor leagues. After the season, Bush was traded to the Brewers, where the former 2nd round draft pick doubled the number of wins he had achieved in either season as a Blue Jay.
What a motivator! Genius, I tell you! GENIUS!
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
but John Gibbons,, but john Gibbons,,,but John Gibbons,,,,
enough already with the John Gibbons,,,,please.
I agree DD should have gotten him out of there but John Gibbons!!!!
Are you freaking nuts.
"Daddy, is Hevan like BIRDLAND?"
"No son, Hevan is BIRDLAND."
john gibbons is terrible...
can i say it? JAY gibbons would be probably be a better manager. BILLY gibbons from zz top would probably be a better manager. LEEZA gibbons would be a better manager. a gibbon monkey would be a better manager. the president of the african nation of gabon would probably even be a better manager.
fucking hell, southy.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 14, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your post made me laugh! LOL!! ,,, But Chris Hoiles? Comon hes just as Bad as Joan Rivers on The Apprentice. Annie Duke should have won. If John Gibbons was on the apprentice he wouldnt take one crap from Dennis Rodman.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hoiles?
When did Hoiles come into the equasion? I’m all for Chris Hoiles being anything he wants to be. Chris Hoiles rocks.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
I mentioned Chris Hoiles. I don’t think he’d seriously be a candidate, though. He’s just one of my favorite former O’s and he managers the York Revolution.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
ah
I get how he could be considered, I was just wondering where he came into it. I figured if he was talking about your comment (which I had missed the first read through) I figured he would have responded to it, and not to another random comment. Silly me.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
And they O’s might go to the playoffs.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction And Then… O’s might go the playoffs. I think Mods should install a Modify button here so you can correct your mistakes.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
I think
we should hire John Gibbons as the moderator of CC! Then we could double our readers and write more coherently! He’d whip us into shape! Donald Trump would agree with me!!!
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
What about
John Gibbons as chairman of the subcommitee?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Co-Chair
with the donald.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Damn I can't believe
I just used 10 minutes of my life on this thread. CC deserves better…and John Gibbons will do it for us!!
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
or challenge us all to a fight in the clubhouse...
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
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