O's 9, Royals 5: Who needs Adam Jones?
Jeremy Guthrie won his 3rd game of the year despite another mediocre outing. He only lasted 5 innings, giving up 4 runs on 6 hits and 2 walks.
The story of the night had to be the offense, as the Adam Jones-less lineup knocked around Gil Meche and other Royals pitchers. Dave Trembley made the questionable decision to bat Cesar Izturis 2nd, he of the .298 OBP. Luckily it worked out as Cesar had two clutch hits and was a big part of the 9 runs the O's put on the board.
Cesar wasn't the only Oriole to have a great day at the plate. Brian Roberts, who is tired of people saying he can't hit because he's married, went 2-3 with a double, 2 walks, 3 runs, and was a stiff KC wind away from hitting a home run in the first. Nick Markakis was just his usual self, going 2-5 with a 2 doubles, 3 RBI, and a run. Huff only managed one hit on the day, but it was a home run so I don't hold that against him. Melvin Mora, who is slowly getting back to form after returning from the DL, contributed 2 hits, 2 walks, and 2 RBI. Even Felix Pie got in on the action with a double and a walk with 2 runs.
Pie actually looked really good out there. His double was due solely on his speed and guts and he flew around the bases and beat the throw. It makes me so sad that Adam is hurting, but if Pie can open a few eyes with this opportunity it'll all be worth it in the end.
Speaking of making the most of opportunities, Nolan Reimold made his highly anticipated major league debut and looked pretty good doing so. His first at bat he hit a line drive that unfortunately went right to the Royals shortstop. Then, in his fourth at bat of the game he slapped a grounder to the right side that just got between the first and second basemen. Happy first hit, Nolan! He was all smiles at first base, it was awesome. For his final at bat he absolutely SMOKED a ball down to third base that in most circumstances would probably be a double. But Mark Teahan made just an amazing play to rob him, and in the box score it'll just look like your garden variety ground out.
O's win! Note to the players: I hope you saved up some of your offense, because you've got Zack Greinke tonight.
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..Getting a run off Sir Ponson of Smorgasbord brought great mirth to the land of bird.
by mpire on May 15, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to give it up for Reimold, but
I think Markakis gets the nod here. Great game for everyone, except Guthrie. Jeez do I hate Guthrie. We went up 5-2 and then he tried to give it up by attempting to walk in runs and loading up the bases the next inning. I stand by my opinion that he is the worst Ace in the MLs.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate Guthrie?
Easy guy man. He really isn’t an ace, he just happens to be the top pitcher in a horrid rotation. He’s not been stellar this year, but there isn’t anything hateable about Guthrie – he’s an awesome dude.
by VB O's Guy on May 15, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this was meant to be a reply
to Johnny_S. It’s early and I drank a lot last night. Computers are hard right now.
by VB O's Guy on May 15, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2. Has somebody just Not Been Watching or is there a, um, substance abuse issue here? Criminy!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused
What games are you watching? Guthrie’s record is rather deceiving. Yes he i s 3-3, but I only think one of those wins was legitimately a good win. His ERA is over 5. And I’m sorry if this sounds mean, but I really don’t give an eff if he is an “awesome dude.” I want him to be a good pitcher. If he spits and children, that is none of my concern.
He is considered the Ace cause he is #1 in our rotation, right?
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can certainly agree that you are confused. And who cares if you "sound mean"?
Guts was out of his bad inning w/o a run scored last night when a third strike was called a ball (provoking a “Where was THAT?” from Joe Angel.) For that matter, Adam Jones catches that triple.
The subpar season start likely has to do with the Team USA stint (which I hope we don’t encourage again) and a slow rounding-into-form that’s followed it. Last night Guts had better velocity (up to 95) and movement, and was sharp in most situations.
Yes, he happens to be an awesome dude. But that’s beside the point. :))
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They showed that ball on the simulated strike zone
It was outside to the left of the plate.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that changes the fact that this ump had already and would again call pitches *further* outside than that strikes?
Which was why Joe Angel, Yers Truly and thousands of others had a hard time believing that particular call.
Man, your desire to harsh on a good pitcher borders on the, um, Not Quite Right…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guts
It’s only been 7 games. Although his performance has been disappointing so far, the last 7 games isn’t going to force me to forget about the 62 games he pitched for us prior to this year.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of those 62 games
He won 17. Impressive.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
The team won 17. He posted a 3.66 ERA, which is impressive.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see at the end of the year
I’ll bet he loses more than he wins.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he will
and when he’s on a horrible team (read: the o’s) that’s entirely expected. I’ve been a little disappointed with his performance so far, but I think he is a good pitcher and he’ll turn it around.
I’m not sure wins and losses really mean much to this team this year.
by Steve. on May 15, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean it always matters
If we could scratch and sniff at 500 we might be able to attract some pitching to turn this club around
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, dude
If we wanted to attract pitching we would have to pav a ton of money. No more, no less. Or draft it, which is what the FO has done.
And the fact that you ascribe any value whatsoever to pitcher wins would be adorable if it wasn’t so infuriating.
by pipkin on May 15, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean if you want to break it down into ERA, BAA, and WHIP
They are all bad. 5.21 ERA, .284 BAA, and 1.48 WHIP (actually his WHIP isn’t too bad).
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
He’s had a bad start, but it’s only been 7 games.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just saying
Because he thought i was rating his year based on just his record
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad then
Although, with the state of our farm system right now (which is pretty top heavy with pitchers); I don’t think it makes much sense to bring in any FA pitching right now. We aren’t going to compete this year, so to me it makes little sense wasting resources to fill a gap that we don’t even know will exist.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Responded to the wrong post
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, you're right
I mean, the O’s are only a coupla pieces away, right?
We sign Pedro and Paul Bird, and then Bonds to hit 5th. We lock down two rotation slots and add the 1 more bat we need with Wieters coming up soon.
I’m telling you, we can still make a run at this!
/sacrasm OFF
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think
he would change the spelling to B-I-R-D if we signed him?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I really do
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or..
We just keep the same team forever and continue finishing 35 out of first. Awesome. I love losing.
/sarcasm OFF
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
35 games out
Yeah, because that can be attributed to Guthrie. In fact, we should cut everyone everytime we finish in last. Markakis blows too.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I forgot to turn the sarcasm off.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You totally took my argument the wrong way
I am not saying Guthrie is the only one to blame, jebus. Duck was acting like us trying to bring in some good/new pitchers was a bad idea. So thats why I made that comment. Had nothing to do with Guthrie.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because it IS a bad idea
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, yeah...what Duck said
Why would you bring in guys for this year and maybe part of next year when you have all these young arms very, very close to the show? Save the money…cause I have a feeling we’re gonna need a 3B in a year or two.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prediction
We’re going to need one April 1, 2010.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to jump in and say
what arms in FA could we bring in? Everyone I have seen this season except Halladay, Grenike, and one or two others suck. Most pitchers that have an upside are signed by the upper level teams (Bos, NY, NYM, Chicago Sox/Cubs, LAD, LAA). It makes since to take our lumps with what we have, bring up the young arms when they are ready, spend on guys we want to lockup for a number of years and keep that cycle.
"They are who we thought they were"-Dennis Green
by Baysox39 on May 15, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not talking about FA this year
What we have this year we have. We can’t compete this year. I’m less concerned with our starting pitchers than I am of the bullpen. Something needs to be done after this season about that, which probably nothing will Because “its a bad idea” according to duck.
And why is it a bad idea to bring in new guys next year duck? Because you said so? Oh ok, good argument.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me ponificate further for your enlightment
Yeah, ’cause I said so.
OK, we have the following pitchers that are no more than 18 months away from MLB:
ORIOLES:
Bergesen
HIll (as of tomorrow)
NORFOLK
Matt Albers
Jason Berken
Brad Hennessey
David Hernandez
Kam Mickolio
Jim Miller
David Pauley
Chris Tillman
Chris Waters
BOWIE:
Erbe, Brandon
Arrieta, Jake
Hoey, James
Patton, Troy
Perez, Wilfredo
FREDERICK:
Tim Bascom
Zach Britton
Brian Matusz
Jake Renshaw
Chorye Spoone
And there’s a few at Delmarva that are no more than 3 years away.
Maybe 50% will pan out to even make an appearance with the O’s. Maybe 20% will be average MLB pitchers. Maybe 10% will be studs. I think the odds are higher (I think we have up to 3 potential studs in that group), but even if they’re right, we’re OK.
We have enough pitching that’s soon or pretty soon we should be focused on growing arms. I’ll say it again – Tampa Bay’s ENTIRE starting rotation spent at least parts of three seasons in MiLB before being called up, and all but one spent parts of four seasons in MiLB.
We’re doing this right. Draft and grow the arms, then go buy the bat you need through FA or trade.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kind of a bootstrap
I mean, its pretty clear that the one thing that takes the O’s from a kind of middling team to a bad one is starting pitching, and Guts, in particular, has been getting much better run support this year than last. You can’t very well defend poor pitching by blaming it on the team, when pitching is the team’s biggest weakness.
I’m not quite ready to cut Guthrie loose or anything, but his start has been pretty dismal.
by fishoutawata on May 15, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is going on here???
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i realize it's the middle of may...
but his career ERA in April is now 5.04, so let’s sasy he’s traditionally a slow starter?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 15, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But that doesn’t change the fact that he has been a very good pitcher the last two years.
And measuring a pitcher by Wins and Losses is non-sensical. It may have made a little bit of sense when starters typically went 8 or 9 innings, but it’s completely irrational way of evaluating a pitcher in today’s game.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, as it stands now his ERA is above 5.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Well yeah, he’s having a rough year, at leasty by his standards. But I don’t think it makes sense to start “hating” the guy based on just 7 starts. Based on what he’s done the previous two years, I think he deserves a little longer leash to get squared away.
I kind of doubt there too many pitchers over the last few decades who haven’t had a bad 7 game stretch.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I've always disliked him
His start this year just fuels my displeasure.
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair Enough
But with all the Orioles to hate, he seems like an odd choice to me.
Pie, Wigginton, DCab, Little Louis, Patterson, Bynum, Gibbons, Liz, Shuey, Wright, McCroy, Burres, and Castro to name a few seem like much better candidates to hate on to me.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha, Os bashing day!
Ha sike. I do hate me some Pie (not the dessert).
by Johnny_S on May 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take
Pie, Patterson, Bynum, Gibbons, Liz, Shuey and Castro.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
Sosa.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you hate the shubacca?
i mean, he wasn’t good or anything, but he was really more comically bad than anything else. carrot top of the diamond?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 15, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Them's the breaks!
But hey, I liked D-cabs and Wiggington. My wife liked Javy Lopez. Louis didn’t bother me. PLUS, I really liked David Newhan…I know, I know.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ding-ding-ding! One Adam 12, One Adam 12, chronic harshing situation at the corner of CC and SB.
Put the gun down, sir. You need to PUT THE GUN DOWN NOW, SIR! If you put the gun down, NO ONE WILL GET HURT.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's doing a job he shouldn't be asked to do
He’s a #2 at best on a good club. But, he’s the best we got right now. So he’s our #1. He’d be #4 on a lot of AL clubs.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact
that Uehara didn’t die on that line drive earlier this year.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice of Kauffman Stadium to include whale watching
with the price of a ticket. Guaranteed sighting. And, yes, there he was in the 8th inning, the rare Aruban Blue Whale himself!
I hope we have another whale sighting tonight, and tomorrow night.
by Fred Sanford on May 15, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nick gets my vote
The outfield assist was killer, and his 2-run double after a nine-pitch AB broke KC’s back.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on May 15, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you high...
if you’re not hailing cesar.
you probably don’t even hail the chimp…

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 15, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what you get...
…for not hailin’ to the chimp!
Team Relish
by kramertoneman on May 15, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me?
Or did Pie get gypped out of a MBP award because there was no wrapup thread yesterday?
by dkdc on May 15, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
Pie had a pretty good game but he was hardly the most Birdland guy on the field last night.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can help you with these wrapups if you'd like, Stacey
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 15, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love your help
the more the merrier!
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll start bailing you out mid-June
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like writing them
but you’re welcome to join in the fun :)
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Izzy, steppin' up big. And for those wondering what to have on your Pevious Channel button during tonite's Embarrassing K-Fest...
Let’s just go north-to-south thru the 8:00 time slot in your TV supplement:
WGN: Mission to Mars (2000). Pretty small beer, altho I really like G. Sinise (as both actor and director) and T. Robbins (acting only; and his relentless lefty politicking has been sad to see from such a likeable guy).
TNT: The Bourne Supremacy (2004). The 2nd in the Bourne franchise. Good, tightly directed actioner, altho it includes the unfortunate demise of the Franka Potente character. Those who recall Run, Lola, Run (I sure do) still miss her.
AMC: Happy Gilmore (1996). Oh, get off your high horse, SC. The Happy-Bob Barker fight scene is routinely included in Best Cinema Fistfight lists, and it’s very funny to boot. Directed by Dennis Dugan (recall the Rockford Files’ Richie Brockelman). Even my ultra-snobbo Brit-crit catalog calls HG “superior disposable entertainment.”
PLEX: Far and Away (1992): [7:35 start]. Stay as far and away from this as possible. It was imposed on me once as the in-flight movie, sort of like the movie-forcing scene in A Clockwork Orange. Ye gods, what tedium. Maybe a good choice tonite, tho, since you can watch with the sound off and follow the plot (I did, you can). Still, with the saccharine level here, you’ll want to watch for liver damage…
TCM: You Only Live Twice (1967). Not great, but serviceable Bondage. And one of the better theme songs. Still, I’d say wait til 10:00 for Diamonds Are Forever, a lot more fun— including an all too brief appearance by Lana Wood (Natalie’s sister) as Plenty O’Toole, which has left most y-chromosome enhanced viewers pining for more for almost 40 years now.
FX: Groundhog Day. GF Nina’s favorite movie, and in my Top 10 as well. Certainly the funniest movie on which a course at the Harvard Divinity School has ever been taught. Everything works in this, everything. [When I bumped into Bill Murray in an airport bookstore once, I almost said “Phil? Phil Connors?!?” But I resisted, thinking “He’s probably SO sick of that.” Still, I sort of wish I had…]
OXY: A League of Their Own [6:30 start]. Cut off the embarrassing final 20 min and it’s a pretty darn good movie, with Hanks v. good as a not-very-disguised Jimmy Foxx and a v. nice early bit by the underused John Lovitz. Geena, Madonna, Rosie et al. are all OK-to-good. Silly sister-rivalry subplot is the only real deadwood.
ABC: America’s Funniest Home Videos. No. Go shoot yourself.
MNT: WWE Friday Night SmackDown! No. Go shoot somebody else.
That’s it for today from Kino Korner. Back to you, Renee.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
T. Robbins?
T. Tov, aren’t you a lefty?
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 15, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'm a...uh...Independent, yeah, that's it. I spent decades smashing communism...but nobody told me
I’d have to go over there afterwards and clean up. Damn.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AFV cracks me up
but only as a change-of-pace. You can’t WATCH that show.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 15, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've hit it channel surfing, like most folks. Hey, I've hit it channel surfing in MOSCOW. You can't NOT watch for 20 seconds...
but any more and you have to go to confession on Sunday.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Groundhog Day is even more legit
because of Rachmaninoff’s Variations on a Theme of Paganini! :-)
by Timmy L. on May 15, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap, frickin' Rachy is *everywhere*! The adagio in the 2nd symph sounded like a Hollywood rip-off goldmine.
I felt like the proverbial little old lady in Iowa who sees her first performance of Hamlet and really likes it— “except for all the cliches.”
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Brian Roberts
because he overcame the fact that married life is affecting his performance this season.
I thought I would pull your leg a little Stacy. :-)
Great report as always. You must be a writer or reporter.
"They are who we thought they were"-Dennis Green
by Baysox39 on May 15, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reimold!
Just because. Not picking but didn’t Markakis have 2 doubles? I really wanted two votes so I could vote for Cesar cause he’s not likely to have many wins this year. Besides the hits he played a nice SS turning a few doubleplays.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
P.S. DEAL WITH IT!
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right!
I wrote this first thing this morning so I knew I would miss something. At least I managed to fix my Markakis typo before publishing. I had it Markasksis
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Markakis
because chasing pitchers is Birdland
by Steve. on May 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
royaltown, too...
apparently.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 15, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hail Cesar
Because, apart from the offense which is TOTALLY unexpected, there is at least one play in every game where I say to myself, “Thank GOD we have a professional shortstop this year.” Yesterday, IIRC, there were a couple like that.
Also, Izturis’ triple in the fifth is really what got the scoring going; and Nicky doesn’t get his ribbies in the sixth without Izturis’ clutch two-out RBI single.
Not to take anything away from Nicky—he did his job and drove them in—but it’s so much less expected from Cesar. He was a real catalyst out there yesterday.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 15, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with you.
And if I didn’t have the nagging, hang-up, man crush on Nicky, I totally would have voted for Cesar. Alas, my inner self did not allow it this time.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 15, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Professional
Is the exact word I almost typed at the end of last night’s game thread. The O’s are slowly beginning to look like a professional ballclub. At least in the field and on offense. The baserunning can be bad, but watching Baseball Tonight makes me feel better because blunders happen to at least one team every night. The pitching… well, we all know.
Itzuris is fun to watch at SS. He’s slick and got my MBP vote.
On another note it’s kind of funny, but they’re discussing the increased HR’s in new $tankee stadium on Science Friday on NPR.
by brooksflow on May 15, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Izzy
because he deserves it, and because Nicky gets the CGPP—the Consistently Good Player Penalty—under which in the case of equal or near equal performances by a Consistently Good Player (CGP) and a Sucky or Inconsistent Player (SIP), Unproven Prospect (UPP) or Stopgap Washed Up Veteran (SWUV), the MBP award goes to the SIP, UPP or SWUV because, let’s face it, how many chances are they going to get?
Congratulations, Izzy—great game! (Now go do it again.)
by fishoutawata on May 15, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That’s like the Socialist Fairness Doctrine (SFD) for MBP. Sorry Nicky. but in favor of “giving EVERYONE a trophy” you’re application for MBP is…
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Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 15, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool! I wish I'd had this one around to use after great Varlamov saves!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Note that the CGPP is only used as a tiebreaker
I think Izzy and Nicky both had excellent games, with nearly identical contributions—close enough for a coin toss, IMHO. In that case, one’s natural reaction is that this is just what Kicky does, but Izzy—whooah, there! It’s that unexpected element that puts him over, but only in a tie situatioin.
by fishoutawata on May 15, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's true, though
Nick has a good game and everyone is just like ho hum. He’s lulled us into complacency with his outstanding play. I personally voted for Brian because I felt like there has been negative energy about him lately and while he was once our shining star he’s now being left behind as we get other, bigger stars.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a guess, of course, but I'm sayin' your Previous Channel button tonite will be on...The Bourne Supremacy.
OK, possibly Groundhog Day. C’mon, am I right or am I right— or am I right?!?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
La fille que j’aimera
Aura le coeur si sage
Qu’au creux de son rivage
Mon coeur s’arrêtera
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 15, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You...you speak French?!?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take a crack at it...
The girl I love
The sage aura
Want to ravage
My bro Arrietta?
by mpire on May 15, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Major E for Effort!
“The French poem Phil quotes to Rita is La bourrée du célibataire by Jacques Brel (in the French version it is Italian, and Lamartine’s “Le Lac” in the Quebec version). Translated, he says ‘The girl I will love / is like a fine wine / that gets better / a little each morning.’"
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A quote I really wish were not outdated:
Toronto Blue Jays’ pitcher Roy Halladay recently compared his team’s losing ways to the movie ‘Groundhog Day’. This is his statement: “That’s the hardest thing. We sit down every spring training and we talk about the same things and it’s almost like a little bit of ‘Groundhog Day.’ That definitely gets frustrating, you want to talk about why we’re succeeding, what we’ve done to help us get to the point of where we’re at, and we just haven’t done that.”
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a MBP philosophical debate
Nicky is more talented than Cesar. That’s a given.
I view MB status as a kind of thing where someone busts out of or defies expectations in a crucial moment. Because at the end of the day, the Orioles should lose 90 games this year, so any win is basically defying expectations. The original “BIRDLAND!” meme was started because of late-inning unexpected heroics.
So it’s not so much that Nicky’s being penalized—he is going to get his share of MBPs, and currently is 2nd on the team behind Dr. Jones—it’s that someone else having the same kind of night is far more special and unexpected. Cesar had the same number of RBIs as Nicky, but he also scored two runs as opposed to Nicky’s one (true, on Nicky’s bat); and in the same way that Nick’s offense shouldn’t be taken for granted, Cesar’s web gem plays at SS shouldn’t be overlooked either.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 15, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I just say
I love philosophical debates about Birdland.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't have stated the rationale for the CGPP better myself
But it appears the voters have spoken.
by fishoutawata on May 15, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good name for this headline! Who needs Adam Jones?
Maybe its time to make a Blockbuster trade involving Adam Jones. Every team wants Adam Jones. Heres My trade idea
Adam Jones to Houston for Starting Pitcher Wandy Rodríguez and 2 Bullpen Pitchers Chris Sampson and Tim Byrdak.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 15, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My idea
No way. 4.5 years of Adam Jones > 1.5 year of Wandy Rodriguez + 2 semi-pitchers.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 15, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Just, wow.
I’m going to my resident sage, Ron White:
Next time you have an idea, let it go.
Please tell me you were kidding about trading Adam Jones. There’s almost no one in MLB I’d trade 4.5 years of Adam Jones for right now.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can think of two players that I might trade AJ for
Pujols and Hanley.
That’s pretty much it.
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
by getxstoked on May 15, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols crossed my mind
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe anybody responds to this nutjob's posts.
by O'sFan21 on May 15, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of fun, in a perverse way
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we
already have a go with Tim Byrdak? I veto any trade involving a player named Wandy.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the line-up, I mean.
Oh, who am I kidding? I’m man-crushing hard.
by The Sicilian on May 15, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you.
The answer to who needs Adam Jones is me.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 15, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wandy is a ground ball type of pitcher. You know,Like remember Tommy John?
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 15, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that the golfer?
Wait…no that’s Tommy Armour. I got it…Robin Hood’s sidekick? No that’s Little John. Hmm…The drummer for Motley Crue? Damn…Tommy Lee. I give up.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 15, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there's some procedure named after him
Hair transplant or something….wasn’t he the president, not just a client?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If AJ had been in the lineup the O's would have won 17-2
fact
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on May 15, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, today's MBP tally is so close I'm gonna call Vanya and Nika and tell 'em to vote.
’Course, they live in West Palm Beach now, and those machines have never been fixed…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on May 15, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, they were FIXED all right....
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 15, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs Adam Jones?
I doooooooooooooooo
http://www.hulu.com/watch/27624/the-simpsons-who-needs-the-kwik-e-mart-song
by PhilR8 on May 15, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
I voted for BRob for his slump-busting night
by PhilR8 on May 15, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you cry every night on the top of your house?
like apu does. Wishing for adam jones? IF so, that is Birdland.
by Timmy L. on May 15, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I think Adam Jones should be MBP solely for WILLING his team past the Great Gil.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 15, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Felix Pie
What do you mean, “Pie actually looked good out there?” The snarky juvenile comments like that about Felix Pie are getting old. If you can’t say something nice about Felix, how about you don’t say anything at all!! What does this guy have to do before you give him the respect he deserves?
by Rosana on May 19, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
















