Orioles go to Washington: The DC series
This Friday marks the fourth consecutive year in which the Orioles and the Nationals take the field against each other. Just like last year, a series in DC followed by a series in Baltimore in the coming weeks.
The only thing I remember about playing in Washington last season was a blown save by Sherrill on a Sunday. But I'm pretty sure that we won the other two games. (That blown save was follwed by another blown save against Kansas City).
Just wondering who, if anyone, is going to shell out the money for some outrageously expensive tickets at the Nationals just-turned-one-year-old park. I'll be there on Saturday, sitting above home plate in the upper decks. The only good value I could find, which is still $8 more expensive than the Orioles' comparable seats.
Lets represent, and get a loud O! in the anthem. Show those Natinals who the real team in the area is. ANd hopefully Adam Jones will be back.
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I am waiting...
til the Nats come to OPCY specificly the saturday night game, FREE NICK MARKAKIS BP JERESY!!!!
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 19, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes...
pretty stoked for that promo, too.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure i'm going saturday, as well...
could end up seeing detwiler for the nats. he looked pretty good last night. i would like to see koji, b/c i WILL be representing in my koji tee!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We lost two of three in DC
I know because I went to the two losses on Friday and Sunday.
Last year, it seemed like the stadium was half O’s fans and the Metro that would go to the MD. suburbs were almost all O’s fans. Even though we lost both times I went, it was one of the prouder moments I’ve had as an O’s fan to invade that stupid ballpark.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 19, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All the Nats fans come from NoVa
Many MoCo residents have stayed true to the O’s.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuckin' A
I can tolerate Marylanders being Redskins fan. But Nats fans? Fuck you guys.
by PhilR8 on May 19, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Nats had played well in their first few seasons
Then MoCo residents would have jumped on the DC bandwagon quite quickly.
Having lived in DC for much of my life, we really don’t have any connection to the city of Baltimore, and many only followed the O’s because there did not exist an alternative. I honestly think that whichever team starts contending first will win the vast majority of Maryland fans, although most now have an inclination toward the Orioles anyway.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
Most people, myself included, just like the “W” hats rather than the actual team.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's one reason I will NEVER be a Nats fan
so it does cut both ways, especially in a state with the political demographics of Maryland.
And Northern Virginia isn’t exactly becoming more red, if you get my drift
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 19, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you're saying
But Montgomery County is basically an extension of Northwest DC and extremely liberal.
There is no reason for someone living in a Baltimore suburb or on the shore to be drawn to the hat, but it’s just a way for the people of NoVa/DC/MoCo to represent their city like the fans of Boston, New York, and Los Angeles are able to do.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me too much of a certain ex-president...
that was kind of my point. A completely illogical, almost delusional point, but it’s mine.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 19, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of like the curly W
But the rest of the uniform, and the DC logo, are hideous. Like, really bad.
by PhilR8 on May 19, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, dude...
the new away jerseys are pretty sweet. frankly, the did the “washington” script way better than the “baltimore” script and the “DC” hats are pretty cool.
the standard unis w/ the “hey, we’re an expansion team!” font pretty much blow, though.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude the road uniform is half good
Seriously, when you see the back and front of that jersey together, it looks like two different teams.
DROP THE DROP SHADOW
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 19, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re:
“Having lived in DC for much of my life, we really don’t have any connection to the city of Baltimore, and many only followed the O’s because there did not exist an alternative.”
It’s true and it’s mutual. It really is kind of an odd alienation between the two cities given how close they are.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Redskins/Ravens/Nationals/Orioles situation has screwed things up
The boundaries would be much more distinct if the Colts/Senators had never left.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
i really don’t get the anti-nats vibe. they stink. so what?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me...
Baltimore’s in Maryland. The Nats ain’t. Therefore, they suck.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 19, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ironically
That’s how I became an O’s fan growing up, but I now realize that district boundaries don’t mean much as I’m ten minutes outside of the District while Baltimore is a 45 minute ride away, despite the fact that the latter is in my state.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re:
“I’m ten minutes outside of the District”
So that’s what, two blocks in DC traffic?
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I'm in Maryland
So it’s not as bad as Virginia’s traffic, but yeah, I live near Chevy Chase and it still takes 10-15 minutes.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
worst stretch
of consistent traffic backup I’ve found anywhere in the United States – and I work everywhere, but DC more than anywhere else – is the DC Beltway Outer Loop between I-95 and Georgia Avenue – which often extends to Connecticut and even Wisconsin Ave – during morning rush hour. Does anyone know a way around this quagmire if you’re trying to get to NoVa?
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are you coming from?
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And usually
trying to get to Tysons or Fairfax.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
There really isn’t any way to avoid traffic when trying to get to Tysons. I can roughly estimate that the ride would only take 50 minutes to an hour or so without traffic, but during rush hour it could feasibly take an hour and a half to two hours each way.
I’ve never had to make the trip from Baltimore to NoVa, but I don’t see any way around going on the I-95/495.
The traffic in Northern Virginia is beyond unbearable because there essentially aren’t any ways around it.
Sorry I couldn’t help, but I face the same backup when trying to get to Falls Church from Bethesda, and it really is unavoidable.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I feared....
…believe me I’ve researched, but there’s unfortunately no other bridge over there so you end up having to get back to 495. The thing is the congestion is typically not bad by the time you reach Bethesda. So if there was a way to bypass the Beltway from 95 to Wisconsin life would be much easier. I guess this is why they’re building both 200 and the Purple Line.
I’ve even toyed with the idea of going down the BW Parkway and over into Virgina then back across to Tysons, but it just seems too crazy.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The purple line will be a Godsend for many people
As they’re finally working to fix some of the mistakes they made when originally designing the metro; not following through with a stop in Georgetown was astronomically ignorant.
But again, people get so frustrated with NoVa traffic because of reasons you’ve already stated; either you take 500 different back roads, or sit through traffic, there are no other options
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignorance
was not the reason for the omitted Georgetown stop. There was a huge neighborhood push to keep the Metro out, which Georgetowners feared would bring a certain “element” to the neighborhood. Whether this meant people who don’t take a limo or car service or was just outright racism depended on which G’town resident you talked to I suppose.
by Jonny Pops on May 20, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Moses redux?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 20, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't want lower class minorities infiltrating their bubble
And that, in my opinion, is ignorance.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you could kind of compare it to the Redskins/Ravens situation
Many people question how you can possibly be a Nationals fan; to qualify, you either a.) deserted the Orioles or b.) just started following baseball.
Some make the point that they were just waiting for a DC team, but really, the O’s are just up the road and were covered by every news station here anyway. Which team did those people follow before the Nationals?
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been too way to many Nat's games since they came to DC
and it just seems to me like its a contrived Baseball atmosphere. I didn’t initially route against the Nationals, I actually had them pegged as a team I could route for in the NL.
Then I realized how truly bad a Baseball town DC is. Another turning point in my anti-Nats views was when I went to a Nats game with my dad and a coworker of his and the coworker asked me how I became an Orioles fan, as if they played in Wyoming instead of Maryland. Ever since then I’ve routed against the Nationals.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 19, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A Baltimore inferiority complex, really
And I say that with love because I am as guilty of this as anyone. Once, Baltimore was a top-tier city in this country and though it probably has not been near that in my lifetime (born in 1983), I grew up hearing from my dad and from my grandparents about the glory days of this city and it’s the place I identify with. It’s rich with character and imbued with an older history than DC can ever hope to be – naturally, since DC sprung out from Maryland’s loins after independence, whereas Baltimore goes far back into the colonial times.
So it’s like hating a more famous younger brother, as far as the feelings between Baltimore and DC. I chafe that DC is important enough to get a mention on the national weather forecast but Baltimore isn’t. I want to grind my teeth when I tell someone from farther west that I’m from Baltimore and they respond, “Oh, so you’re near DC.” If I wanted you to identify me as being from near DC, then I would have said that. And the people who populate the area immediately outside of it (Monkey/PG Counties and NOVA) are increasingly transplants from other areas who don’t have any real connection or emotional attachment to Baltimore or Maryland history, which furthers the alienation between the two places.
Then you get into the news, and DC is always in the news, which does make sense since it is the nation’s capital and all the important stuff happens there. But Baltimore’s only on the news when something bad happens, like we’re the murder capital of the country or the syphilis capital of the world or whatever. Right now our one source of pride comes from our professional sports teams, and since the Orioles haven’t had a winning season since 1997 that pretty much leaves the Ravens – a team which, even when good, will never get any respect because it’s Baltimore.
I mean, what is Baltimore to people? It’s the world of Homicide and The Wire, of drug deals and murdered witnesses and addicts and dilapidation and declining ports and bad schools and petty corruption and a newspaper that used to be world-class and now is barely worthy of being a branch office for some clowns in Chicago. No one from Baltimore will dispute these things, but the Baltimore person knows what’s still great about this place and is overjoyed that the flaws are exposed because maybe now we can fix some of them. Plus, all those other places thinking they’re better than us can suck it: shine the light on those places and I bet they are messed up too.
Into this steps the Washington Nationals, and really they were doomed to be loathed by the Baltimore-area fans from the beginning for having the audacity to exist in DC. They suck, their new stadium sucks and their fans are by and large the transplants I mentioned earlier – who filled the stadium when it was new and quickly hopped off the bandwagon. And their money would be flowing up our way – into our team and our economy – and now it’s not because Bud Selig was too stubborn to just obliterate the team from existence after it failed in Montreal (because if he had to contract teams it would be admitting his prior expansion was a failure). Yet the Nats will be the darlings if they are good because they are from DC. One more thing where a storied Baltimore or Maryland tradition and one of the few things we can be proud of is overshadowed by something from that young upstart to the south.
So as someone who’s lived within 5 miles of I-695 my whole life, I say fuck all that. Fuck DC, fuck the Nats, fuck the curly W’s, fuck their mascot, fuck their stadium, and fuck anything I forgot to mention (though I leave out their fans on purpose because I’m sure most of them are nice people).
That’s why the anti-Nats vibe.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on May 19, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
P.S.
That ended up being longer than I thought it was. Sorry for the wall of text. I guess I’m always on the verge of a good rant.
Also, I’d just like to state that it’s really nothing personal against actual people from those places (DC or the suburbs) despite how it may sound above. I dislike the places as abstract entities without carrying that over into actual dislike to people from there. I’m not really sure how it works either.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on May 19, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A-fucking-men
I was going to mention the inferiority complex in this thread, but decided against it because I wasn’t sure if anyone would agree with me. But you pretty much nailed it on the head and elocuted the same feelings that I feel. You know, I used to be pissed off at the X-Files because Scully lived in Virginia and not Maryland.
Well said, brother.
by PhilR8 on May 19, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite the poignant post
Although I never grew up in Baltimore, I find it highly offensive that Baltimore is most definitely the punching bag of the east coast for no reason other than that Maryland is my home state.
When you take into consideration the fact that every single other major city along the coast, i.e. Boston, New York, Philly, and DC, is highly glamorized, it’s amazing how little attention Baltimore receives.
Montgomery/PG really don’t have THAT many foreigners as the majority really do reside in NoVa, but I agree with the notion that Baltimore, much like Cleveland, has experienced its time of prosperity and people don’t appreciate history enough to know that.
Take solace in the notion that Washington D.C. has no culture/staying power, and could easily be replaced by virtually any other city if it lost its status as the capital.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, sorry, but...
“Take solace in the notion that Washington D.C. has no culture/staying power.”
-bullshit.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon j.q.
Defend DC. You know you want to. “bullshit” doesn’t cut it, counselor. It’s in-fucking-admissable and grounds for contempt. Let’s hear a real defense. That is, if you have one.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living in DC/Baltimore or Visiting DC/Baltimore?
I much rather visit DC. But I’d live in Baltimore.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 19, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just mean to say that
Washington D.C. is a transplant city, and the District’s power stems from its titles as the capital of America.
If the federal government decided to move the capital to Cincinnati, then D.C. would immediately become irrelevant. Conversely, Boston/New York/Philly don’t really have designated purposes in that manner, and therefore have built themselves up.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd agree with that assessment completely
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
….except for one thing. Philly is basically Baltimore x 2. I work there all the time. I like the city a lot. But it suffers from basically all of Baltimore’s problems and has all of the same drawbacks. With the exception of the fact that the food is considerably better in Philly.
Boston, NYC and DC are all skilled labor developed cities in the global economy. But Philly is struggling, just like Baltimore. It’s just twice as big so it gets more attention.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly also has the misfortune
of competing with NYC for attention. New York media actually had the audacity to label Philadelphia as New York’s “unofficial sixth borough” a couple years ago. I’m sure someone meant that as a compliment, but nothing says, “we think of you as our bedroom community” more than verbally annexing another city in the press.
On the plus side, Philly does have the benefit of being one of two large metro centers in all of PA – and Pittsburgh is a long drive away through “Alabama”. I wish DC were as far.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on May 20, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live right next to Pennsyltucky
The rumors are true, folks.
by PhilR8 on May 20, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennsylvania
has the most rednecks per square mile than any state above the mason-dixon line.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on May 20, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't that the truth
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 20, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong..
I live a hour and a half north of Harrisburg, so I am in redneck country but its nice not having to lock your doors at night and the only crime we have are teenage vandals.
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 20, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whereabouts?
I have family in Williamsport.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 20, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live 15 min from williamsport
and work in williamsport
VERY COOL
Home of the Little Leauge World Series!
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 20, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Muncy to be exact
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
I was born in S. Williamsport. My grandpa actually played in the LLWS for the local team way back when.
I have several aunts, uncles, cousins still in the area. In fact, spent the 4th last summer at my aunt and uncles watching the fire works off the “new” bridge. They live on the first street over the river.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 20, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Market Street Bridge
Me, My Wife, and her parents were there too.
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 20, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
for us in PA we catch the overflow of scum from northern MD down to B-more.
There is an entire section of Hanover, PA with 443 area codes…and our area code is 717.
I will take my PA rednecks over the ridiculousness that I see down in Lil’ B-more any day
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 20, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then, as someone who has lived in both places,
I say you’re welcome to it. I had an employer in Lancaster tell me I had to cut my hair & remove my earrings because he didn’t want his customers “to get the wrong idea.”
Between the thirty years late mentality, the taxes coming from 9 different directions, and the “roads” in that forsaken state, you can effing have it.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on May 20, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying
that the rednecks ‘round these parts don’t have their downfalls…ultra-conservativeness being one of them.
However, the influx of drugs and violence that comes DIRECTLY from the city I can do without. You can’t open up a bar/club in southern PA without a bunch of damn hooligans from MD effing it up for everyone!
Don’t get me wrong, I love Baltimore with a passion. I just wouldn’t want to live there.
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 20, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My best friend lives in Hanover now
Well, McSherrystown really, but they’re pretty much the same town. I really like it there, but there is a sort of seedy underbelly that you might not expect from the area. My friend’s $600 mountain bike was stolen out of his shed soon after they moved there. An expensive lesson to learn.
Also, traffic sucks. Thankfully my friend only commutes to Westminster and knows the back way, but if I had to commute from Hanover to Baltimore I think I’d shoot myself. 94/30 sucks.
by PhilR8 on May 20, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McShanover!!
At least that is what I call the great metropolis. You are correct about the whole underbelly thing…this is also a bad area for extremely illicit drug use.
94/30 is the worst! All the stop and go in Hanover and then on through the MD towns (Manchester and Hampstead) is enough to make one want to shoot oneself for sure!
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 20, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just wrong.
The drugs in Baltimore come from being between Miami & NYC. The drugs in PA may arrive through Baltimore, but drug use in rural areas vs. urban in America is almost exactly the same.
There was a study done almost 10 years ago that found 8th graders in rural areas were more likely – a LOT more likely – than those in urban areas to use marijuana & crack.
Gangs are prevalent in rural areas. The violence relating to those goes up exponentially as the population per square mile increases, obviously, but to pretend that things in the country are all hunky-dory if it weren’t for living within driving distance of the city folk is just flat-out wrong.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on May 21, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about Miami/NY
“Cocaine Highway”
I forget the exact figures, but a key in Florida is like $2,000, and as you travel north, it increases to about $8,000 by the time you’re in NY. Senior Citizens and college students (people who GO TO FLORIDA WOOO) get paid $1000 per trip, each way.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean...
…we really got fucked on the way racial politics played out in the second half of the 20th Century. I’m talking about redlining, riots, blockbusting, white flight, drugs and on and fucking on. The demise of unions and industrial America didn’t help either. It would’ve happened in DC too but they have the Federal government and all that fucking money to prop up their economy.
But Baltimore’s hanging in there. I’m actually optimistic about the city for the first time in my life. All this biotech development is a very good thing. And if Obama passes healthcare and is also able to dump money into the cities, Baltimore will buck up.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When a city is built around an industry
And that industry collapses, then the town is undoubtedly going to go through some pretty rough times. Baltimore did seem to go through especially tough drug battles/white flights, though.
Even if Baltimore does rebound economically, it’s tough to compete with the other extremely prominent east coast cities for overall chicness.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
that’s the thing about Baltimore. It has zero pretensions. And that’s an attractive thing to a lot of people. Chic is not part of the Big City equation here and that’s the way most Baltimoreans like it.
Now the thing with DC is that it’s trying to do the whole Chic thing, but to just about anyone who’s spent time in NYC, LA, Chicago – it just comes off as sort of a colony in a way. Filled with businesses that are there to support rich folks from somewhere else – like NYC, LA and Chicago. Talking about law firms, lobbyists, trade associations etc. All these people are camped out in DC to make sure it does right by people in the real power centers. The “Chicness” is there to clothe, wine and dine those people, the majority of whom will pack and leave once their tenure is up. It’s certainly not there for the federal worker, who can’t afford it after all.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this post in its entirety
You’re clearly well-versed in analyzing chicness!
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the saying....
“Politics is show business for ugly people” fits DC perfectly. It TRIES to match the glamour and importance of NYC, but it just doesn’t work. And it tries too hard doing it.
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by duck on May 19, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC has...
-interesting neighborhoods like Dupont Circle, Georgetown, and Adams Morgan
-big % of undeveloped land in Rock Creek Park
-Eastern Market
-free, amazing museums
-other awesome museums
-the memorials
DC was created to be the capital. It’s existence is due to being the capital. If the capital was moved elsewhere, DC would go back to being part of Maryland and Virginia. So the idea of what it would be like if the capital is moved is somewhat of a paradox. Plus, the memorials and museums wouldn’t be torn down if the capital moved.
It’s not DC’s fault that others look down on Baltimore. In fact, most Washingtonians appreciate Baltimore more than other people because of the proximity.
by wickedwitch on May 19, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Alexander Hamilton had been granted his wish
And Manhattan had become the capital, then you simply would have been adding a title to an already prominent city. Similarly, London would not sink into oblivion if the capital was moved to Manchester or Liverpool.
I’m not quite sure how to properly address my point, but as much as I despise Bostonians, they most definitely have more of a connection/affinity for their city than DC residents do toward the District, and it’s mostly because Boston has its own culture and is not defined by any one role or obligation to the country.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
by Baltimo on May 19, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re:
interesting neighborhoods like…Georgetown
I beg to differ. That place put the prep in preppy.
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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It’s shite being Scottish
We’re the lowest of the low!
by Jonny Pops on May 19, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree about "our one source of pride".
This is the home of the Star Spangled Banner. This is a food destination. This is the largest city in the richest state of the greatest country the world has ever known. We exist in spite of the federal government’s presence down 295, not because of it. God knows our mass transit would be in much better shape if no Maryland dollars had ever gone to carting folks around the DC suburbs.
If you need something to get excited about re: Baltimore’s future, I have plenty. Harbor East, Harbor Point, WestPort, a new arena, Pratt Street redevelopment, JFX redevelopment, the Red Line, State Center, Charles Street makeover, BRAC, Gateway South… these are all big, important projects that are proceeding along in spite of the economy. Baltimore has weathered the economic storm very, very well.
I think a lot of our national image has to do with laziness – the sooner the media stops comparing us to rust belt cities like Cleveland & Pittsburgh, the sooner people will realize that this hasn’t been a blue collar town in decades. Beth Steel up & left, hon. This is a Johns Hopkins/biotech/health sciences kind of town.
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by OEutaw on May 20, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably needed the pep talk
Leaving out the national anthem was the one oversight in my post. Everyone who’s not in this area who’s known me for a length of time hears the story of the anthem as soon as they express the slightest bit of confusion about any detail – starting with the attempted land attack on through the writing of the poem. I get the feeling you probably know the sort of thing I’m talking about since you probably do this to people too.
Come to think of it, I’ve unleashed that on some locals who should have known better too. In my own defense, anybody who thinks the Star-Spangled Banner was written in 1812 and not 1814 needs a little history lesson anyway, and I am well practiced at giving it. :)
The named projects taken as a whole are hopefully a cause for optimism. I’d love to see someone take a crack at the run-down stuff on the light rail corridor and actually make something out of Howard Street.
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by Eat More Esskay on May 20, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, you mean "Superblock".
Many have tried, and failed, to get legislation pushed through that would allow for that redevelopment. There is yet another push underway, renderings abound, property has been bought, amassed, even taken.
Nothing visible yet, but you can rest assured that the real estate involved is too valuable for this project to go unrealized forever. The new arena plans also involve a Howard St. boundary, so even if Superblock can’t get off the ground by itself, the new arena will force that area into the development spotlight.
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by OEutaw on May 20, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone got the Nats official program?
I asked over in Federal Baseball and got no replies, but does anyone know where the best Nationals scorecard can be found? Are they one of the few teams who put a good one in their program? Do they have something like the Outside Pitch?
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 21, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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