Huff to the Mets?
by sluggo 2.0 on May 19, 2009 2:37 PM EDT
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PrintMets 1Bman Carlos Delgado is out for at least 2 months and according to the yammerings on WFAN they don't seem to think they have an adequate stopgap within the organization.
Now the 1st choice is apparently Nick Johnson, and outstanding fielder & the price is right. But he does have a history of injuries & doesn't have the same presence in the lineup that Huff would give.
Doubtful they'd part with top OF prospect Victor Martinez, but pitching help could be available. So if the Mets start asking questions on Huff's availability, what should MacPhail's answer be?
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yup.
don’t think the mets have the horses, though.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
his answer should be...
go fuck yourself unless your gonna throw in some nice arms but NO MORE OUTFIELDERS
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 19, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, we may as well
get something for the man-horse. No outfielders though, pitching and infielders would be just fine.
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
Sounds like a plan
A decent 2B or SS prospect and maybe, just maybe, throw in an at least so-so reliever? Do the deal, and the O’s could even cover some of the cash if the prospects are decent..
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Outside
of Santana the Mets have kinda had some shoddy pitching this year.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
The answer is always yes
At the right price.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
as a certain millionaire once said...
everyone has their price!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I was best man in a friend’s wedding last year and suggested that we dress like DiBiase and Virgil. He shot it down, something about his wife not going for it, yada yada…
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
She's really got him on a short leash
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it'd have been worth out...
to freak out the squares, if nothing else.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk about a guy
who was both great on the mike and in the ring. Dibiase was the complete package. Everyone talks about Curt Hennig being underrated so much that he’s lost that tag. For me, Dibiase was just real underrated.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
this is going around
the NY?NJ area. seems to be everyone’s top choice (especially on espn radio), and thats including over Johnson. I just don’t know what we’d ask for in return. The Met’s system isn’t exactly great, and everytihing at the ML level is either great or crap, so there’s no one they’d part with or we’d want there. Maybe some relievers? Really don’t know.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
1) Wilmer Flores, SS-3B, Grade B+: I might take some flack for this, but in this case I think his upside is higher than F-Mart. If I could have just one of them, I’d pick Flores.
This guy would be nice. Write up from Sickels.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
5) Reese Havens, SS, Grade B: Assuming he’s healthy, I think he’s going to be a strong across-the-board player with a high OBP.
Havens is the Met’s first round pick from last year. College guy, but he’s blocked by Reyes. I doubt either him or Flores would be available for Huff though.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Worst they can do is say no...
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Win-win situation for us if Snyder continues to hit
Huff should be shopped, and if the offer is right, promptly dealt for prospects, irrespective of whether they’re ML ready like AM demanded for Sherrill last year.
If the other teams try to low-ball us, then we get picks if Aubrey continues to slug.
All this is contingent on Brandon continuing to impress, though.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
steve melewski...
compared wieters and snyder’s first 35 games at bowie. surprisingly similar…i think snyder’s slg is a bit better and wieters had a better obp. it was a scant few points of OPS, though.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
They're similar in terms of age
But Snyder has been in the minors for five seasons while Matt was in his first year ever.
Whereas Brandon, a first baseman, pretty much has to hit to be noticed, Wieters, a switch-hitting catcher with plus defensive skills, does not have pressure put upon him to smack the ball around.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
yeah, but...
it’s not like wieters jumped up from high school to frederick. i mean, 3 years of div 1 ball at one of the best programs in the country is nothing to sneeze at. not to mention that wieters season last year was not considered great for a catcher, but one of the greatest offensive seasons in minor league history (so said baseball prospectus).
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true
But the “wow” factor with Wieters stemmed from the fact that he was performing so well without ever seeing professional pitchers before.
My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver
left side of the infield
I would be looking for 1B/3B/SS for Huff or Baez. I feel like there is a ton of young pitching in the farm already.
Librarians are hiding something
Type A or B free agent
Remember that if Huff doesn’t get injured he should be a type B or possibly type A free agent. So the orioles should be looking for at least 2 quality players or a package of several lower sleeper prospects
Good point
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be making this up...
but I thought that someone on here determined he would have been Type A? But I can’t remember. I know it was discussed.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
It depends on how he performs this year
free agent types depend on the past two years if I remember correctly. Since he performed well enough to earn a silver slugger award last year I’m pretty sure that year will be counted as a type A. It’ll depend on how well he performs this year.
Knowing this we should negotiate like he will be a type A free agent and should at least ask for two solid prospects
That assumes a team will be willing to give up the draft picks for him.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Well, draft-picked players
since you can’t trade actual picks.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
it's not a trade
Huff is a free agent at the end of the season.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
and...
he has to be offered arb, decline and have another team sign him for picks to vest, no?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
whoops...
sorry.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Misunderstood your point.
I thought your time frame was mid-season, not after the season. My bad.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
And that the O's will offer him arbitration
which is not a given since they might be afraid he’ll accept.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
All he would cost us is cash. He’s not blocking anyone yet, and he’s only 32, and he’s still producing. I wouldn’t rule out a 2-3 year deal. Even with the new B-Rob and Markakis’ deals, the O’s payroll is pretty affordable for PGA.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Sure, Huff on a (bloated) 1 year contract really isn’t a bad thing. I could live with that assuming he hits well this year.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Given his production
Is his contract really that bloated?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
in 2009 dollars, yes or it depends...
i dunno…milton bradley and ibanez got 10 mill, but look at the bargain basement contracts burrell and dunn got?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Can either of them play a corner infield position?
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Huff is making $8M this year
A raise through arbitration could equal $10-$11M contract. Given what Burrell signed for, that’s high for a DH. Dunn and Abreu aren’t quite comparable since they play the field.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Package possibilities
I’d ask for 1 sleeper pitcher along with maybe a bullpen prospect and ask for some type of infielder prospects. I figure Elvin Ramirez as a sleeper pitcher prospect. Maybe add one more or a bullpen guy from either single or double-A. We do need some infield depth as we lose our third basemen and Huff this year I believe
Elvin Ramirez, RHP, New York Mets
A Dominican signed by the Mets in 2004, Ramirez posted a 3.67 ERA with a 62/36 K/BB in 81 innings last year in the Sally League, not overly impressive. But he gets tons of grounders with his 90-94 MPH sinking fastball, flashes a good curveball and changeup, and has made progress with his command. He’s had durability problems and command remains an issue, but he should be watched for signs of further development.
(writeup from stickles)
Dont trade Huff to Mets. If Huff needs to be Traded trade him to the Brewers for a player to be named later. And that player is pitcher Jeff Suppan. So what the Brewers could get is another chance to win the Penneat. But Next year we have 2 good starting pitchers Guthrie and Jeff Suppan.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 19, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
early happy hour in SFLA?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you should.
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
yes...
jeff suppan is a bum.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he pitch good in Baltimore
always ask what if?
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 19, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And the Nationals asked themselves...
Maybe Danny Cabera will pitch good for us!
See how that worked out…
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
what if
a crappy to mediocre pitcher moves from the NL central to the AL East?
There. I Asked what if.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Do you think
if we traded Huff to KC, they’d just give us John Gibbons?
by The Sicilian on May 19, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
or Soria
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
screw Koji, right? he sucks.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
maybe we could
add Adam Eaton into this deal and maybe even mark hendrickson
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 20, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Too early in the night right now.
It’ll be closing time before those two start to look attractive.
by The Sicilian on May 20, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
welcome back, dude!
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Victor or Fernando Martinez
If either were available for Huff, my answer would be “Yes Please.”
How about?
A first baseman to replace the one you would trade.
Always listen to any trade but who is behind Huff to take his spot?
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um...
wigginton? i know, i know. but whatever. I personally think he’s better then what he’s been (not a big stretch, right?)
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
i'm counting that
as a prediction of his 2 hit night tonight. Along with my calling Nolan’s shot, i’m on a roll. Lets say O’s sweep Nats (figure if this thing works, might as wel take advantage of it).
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Giants and Braves
Both the Giants and Braves are lacking offensive production. The Giants are getting little to nothing from first and the Braves outfield has been terrible.
Trade ideas: Huff to the Giants, Scott to the Braves
Prospects in return: one or two of Angel Villalona (1B), Conor Gillaspie (3B), Nick Noonan (2B), or Ehire Adrianza (SS) from the Giants and Freddie Freeman (1B) or Brandon Hicks (SS, 3B) of the Braves.
Bumgarner is going nowhere. He’s the left-handed Lincecum. They’re not going to trade him. If Kotchman starts hitting, Freeman becomes expendable. Anyway, I support both these trades. If they happen Wiggy takes over at 1B to be backed up by Salazar, Montanez moves to full-time DH, and the forth outfielder becomes Pie permanently.
The most important thing about both trades is getting infielders (corner and middle) prospects in return. Waring and Turner have turned out great but neither are ready to contribute to a major league roster, and, outside of Blake Davis, there need to be other options at short for next (or in two) year (s) and beyond.
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