Steroids = great hitting?
by Rosana on May 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT
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PrintIn my previous post I talked about the human side of Felix Pie, which remains largely unreported by anyone. In this post I'd like to address how we've become fans of steroids! Yes that's right. We've all loved to hate the great hitting of Manny Ramirez and his baggy uniform which we now know was hiding his dirty little secret?
Do you still want to see Manny play? Or how about A-Rod? I wouldn't walk across the street to see either of them play because I know they can't hit without their pharmaceutical aids! I'd rather watch AAA baseball where guys like Bobby Scales and Jake Fox play a pure form of baseball that's sadly disappearing.
Our love of steroid inspired hitters like Manny has got to stop! Instead we have to re-train ourselves to appreciate the work ethic of players like Felix Pie, Bobby Scales and others like them. Did you ever consider that it might be their refusal to use pharmaceutical aids that has kept them in the minor leagues?
How can you feel the same watching a baseball game knowing that your best hitters can't really hit? Even though I've been a Cubs fan, I've still secretly enjoyed watching Mannywood, haven't you? That's in the past now.
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I’d rather admire the work ethic of guys who are actually good, than guys like Pie and Scales.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
Orioles fan do....
Matt Wieters
Nick Markakis
Adam Jones
thats just off the top of my head real quick, All great players who can HIT, the latter two at a MAJOR LEAUGE level and as soon a the great one gets called up he’ll also show he can hit at a ML level unlike Pie. Good work ethic is fine and being a stand up guy also great but its pro baseball you have to be able to play at a certin level not just be a good guy with a great work ethic. example Cal Ripken Jr. Great guy and most important great ball player
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
as would I
ALL STAR
.264/.372/.431 23HR 87 runs 81 RBIs .971 fielding %
I wouldn’t say one bad thing about that….off year for Cal but AWESOME year for felix
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
not to mention
Cal had 6 not too shabby years before that as well. he was rookie of the year. dont think Pie was.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on May 19, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and MVP the next year
dont see Mr. Pie getting one of those either
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
He's probably a long shot to win it this year
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you really just compare Pie to Ripken?
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Great example of what you're talking about
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.orioles19may19,0,7021831.story
Everyone in Baltimore hated Huff after 2007 because he stunk it up at the plate and called Baltimore a horseshit town. But you know what? Now everyone loves Huff and it’s barely been 18 months.
Why? Because Huff played his ass off and produced at the major league level. He didn’t change his attitude, he didn’t do charity work for orphanages – he hit his was into the hearts and minds of Orioles fans.
It sounds like Pie is a better humanitarian than Huff, but if he wants to be respected as a MAJOR LEAGUER, he has to produce.
Huff
actually bites the heads off of baby kittens.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
+1
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
You'll love him too!
And at the end of this season, you’ll love Felix too! And I won’t even say I told you so because I was brought up to be polite!
I hope you're right
Hell, a few months ago I bet $10,000 that Pie would finish the season with an OBP above .315, so I hope Pie helps me out. But, you know, I’m not really holding my breath.
Polite folks don't tell strangers they've never met that they're heartless.
In my experience, that is.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on May 20, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Naked Huff daddy is gross.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
As long as he keeps hitting
he can do whatever he wants in the clubhouse that doesn’t break local, state and federal laws.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
You seem like a person with all the best intentions. I can see where you’re coming from, but the truth is guys like Manny and A-Rod can hit with or without the roids. Guys like Jay Gibbons go from lifetime AAA’ers to marginal major leaguers using the juice. Guys like Barry go from potential hall of famer to one of the best players ever.
As far as work ethic and personality, that kind of thing is far more visible at the minor league level, mainly because its built that way. We don’t all know Felix as a person because he plays in Camden Yards now, not in Iowa. Regardless, intention and work ethic can only get you so far, no matter what line of work you are in. If I get hit by a car, I could care less how good of a person the doctor is and how hard he worked to get to that point. Just make sure he can save my life. It’s the same in baseball. Its not necassarily fair, but such is life.
In any event, real fans DO appreciate the guys that play the game the right way more. Thats why we’ve taken to Adam Jones so quickly. The guy busts his butt and doesn’t act like he’s above the common guy. If Pie could do what Adam does, he’d probably have the same following. If he reaches that level, i’m sure we’ll take to him that same way.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on May 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
steroids?
STeroids are the ‘elephant in the room’ that some of you are unwilling to look at. You don’t want to admit that all these guys you love to watch are pharmaceutically enhanced! And it looks like the NBA has a problem with steroids too! Take a look at LeBron James and tell me he’s not juicing up? Or Brad Miller? This has ruined sports on so many levels.
accusations
Did you read anything dave said? Doesn’t look that way. Hey, tell me, how do you know that Pie hasn’t taken steroids? Is Pie older than he says he is? What sort of supplements does Pie take?
really?
It comes down to liking to watch Pie or liking to watch juiced players? I fall into that middle ground of not liking either. I like to watch un-juiced players who are better than Pie.
funny...
i like pie and juice. a delicious snack.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
cherry pie
worst pitcher outfielder combo to ever be delicious
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Sheesh
where are all these “nice people” coming from?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
I'm betting on a purge at OH
Didn’t cite enough stats in their posts
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Ketchup = Better Esskay?
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
Ketchup = Better Everything
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Also need mustard
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on May 19, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Cocaine = Better Eric Clapton guitar playing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuWSPxMzH0Y
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 19, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ShamWow = Dry Everything
Who cares about global warming? Sea levels start to rise, just get a bunch of ShamWows.
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
by dayzd toe on May 19, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ShamWow = free prostitutes?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0330091newsham3.html
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Not free
$1K from what I heard
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure he paid
and he didn’t get charged in the end…
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Steriods = Barry Bonds Bigger Douche?
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
Personally, I follow the Davis Doctrine
“Just win, baby!”
As well as the Madden Corollary, “If he can play, good. If not, good-bye.”
And up until now I’ve always been indifferent to who wins the NL pennant. But now I want LA BECAUSE of Manny. Sticking it to self-righteous, judgemental, bitter sportswriters and PHN in one shot? Now that’s a 2-fer!
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
One problem...
I think Manny may have actually been batting for himself AND for Andre Ethier b/c Ethier is nowhere to be found since Manny went on vacation.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
True enough
But they have the division by default. Who thinks SF is for real? Me neither.
And as for October, all the other NL teams (NY, Phi, Mil, StL, Chi, whoever) have their flaws as well.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
I'm with you though...
I’d like to see LAD win that division. I’m a big Matt Kemp fan.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Steroids don't make a hitter
Ramirez, Rodriguez, Bonds…these guys could hit without steroids and be all stars. They’re that good to begin with. Steroids make them better? Maybe. That’s debatable.
See Jay Gibbons
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 19, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
See Major League History
It’s filled with one and two year wonders. Yep, even way back before there were steroids like there are now.
and with Manny it wasn't proven he took steriods
just a drug to restart testosterone that the roid money take to augment their last cycle
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
roid monkeys not roid money... geez
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
Please
educate yourself on the Manny/steroid issue before you post. Manny had an elevated level of testosterone that wasn’t his…..hence the 50 game suspension! Where are all those people who swore up and down that Manny didn’t take steroids. Manny is fake all the way up to his fake dreadlocks! Anyone who thinks he can hit without the juice is delusional!
Why don't you help us educate ourselves
Care to post a few links? Specifically, I’d like you to substantiate where people “swore up and down” that Manny “didn’t take steroids”. I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I just want to know.
what the fuck am I saying
I don’t even care about Manny. How did we go from Felix Pie sucking to steroids? Why do I let myself be duped by trolls?
Damn!
Where are all those people who swore up and down that Manny didn’t take steroids.
You found us!
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Yes if your body is already producing testosterone....
and you take a drug that makes you produce more……
guess what happens…….. guess
YOU HAVE AN ELEVATED AMOUNT!
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
This is actually fun...
Guinness = great drinking?
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Michelle Wie = great legs?
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Yup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Wie
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
You and me both, brotha...
you and me both.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
John Gibbons = Best Coach Ever?
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 19, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
And this thread has reached its logical conclusion
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
I don't know who's taken what
The “work ethic” guys may be taking steroids, HGH, or who knows what else.
What percentage of baseball fans really feel that steroids have tainted the game? Those people ought to vote with their wallets and just stop going to games and buying merchandise. If someone feels the drugs have ruined a sport, the only recourse they have, as a consumer, is to withhold their money.
It sure seems to me that all the hand-wringing over drugs ruining sports is a bunch of baloney. Revenues have generally been doing nothing but climb until this recession. The complaining ought to stop focusing on whether drugs have tainted a sport, and ask why the vast majority of people aren’t really concerned.
Here's the real question...
How many fans of baseball are taking steroids?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Well, I DO have sinus problems....
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
I loves me some steroid-ball
It’s more interesting than the coke-ball of the 1980’s. Less illegal too.
If baseball players stopped used steroids (which they won’t) and baseball returned to another dead-ball era. I’m not paying attention.
NC BBQ
In North Carolina Eastern BQQ = North Carolina Western BBQ.
It’s just that nobody’s willing to admit it. Folks claim to have their faves, but secretly they’ll eat either. The difference is that they’ll also complain about it when ‘forced’ to partake in the other region’s offerings.
The more crazy the site attracts, the less interested I get
I’m still trying, though.
by pipkin on May 19, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
GD threads are still quality
You can always skip FanPosts from people you don’t recognize
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
Yeah, we're getting there.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
those are the most fun
nothing fun about people that know their shit talking about how bad we are. i rather enjoy belittling people who think John Gibbons is good.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Stacey
Can you give me a brief synopsis of where your quote came from? I need to know when and where Jonesy gave us that gem!
Mood about O's rotation: Depressed : (
by sickuvitall on May 19, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Took me a second to find it
http://wjz.com/sports/orioles.hamstring.2.992259.html
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
For the record, Rosana is banned, so as far as she goes leave her comments alone. She can’t respond.
mind if I ask why?
I guess she was attacking individuals, but there’s been alot more crazy around here lately that her. I’m guessing it was the individual name calling though?
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Not bite the hand that may feed (now), but,
Yahoo = Shitty Posters
Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."
I know this may be self-serving but...
Wouldn’t it be cool if it were just the start of the ’roids era now? Then we could legitimately expect Kakes and AJ to become 40-50 home run guys. Now we have to content ourselves with 20-30.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
we also got to see
Gibbons go from rule 9 draft pick to mediocre to the LI Ducks. Thats fun.
ASD we got to see David Segui play… well, no. I guess we didn’t really.
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
Felix is an Oriole because he is a great guy!!!
Seriously.
Ryan Freel was a cock. And he has about the same ability as Felix. And so he goes.
Pie’s ‘heart’ has already extended his stay.
1933 was a bad year
by Senatorrosewater on May 20, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
well...
Freel is also what he is, whereas Pie is young and has tons more talent than Freel. Pie has potential, Freel, not so much. Pie may never put it together, but he could
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
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