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Wieters isn't the answer

No one single player can turn the Orioles around at this point. It must be a team effort that includes management. After Tuesday's horrible attendance (10,130), will ownership realize it's to blame for the decay of one of the greatest baseball teams in history over the last 12 years? Hopefully Wieters will eventually be nearly as good as advertised. Hopefully other young hitters will continue to improve. Hopefully management will wake up and sign real pitchers. And hopefully ownership will either sell or start believing in baseball.

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Thanks for stopping by

I appreciate your fresh take on the situation.

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by Brotz13 on May 29, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

does not compute.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 29, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Gee, Thanks
No one single player can turn the Orioles around at this point. It must be a team effort that includes management.

Duh!

by Mountian Goats on May 29, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

That's why the Opening Day lineup has 6 players not on this team

Because it won’t take one player. We’ve replaced 5 of them and 1 is on th Dl (Koji) who will come back. But Freel, Moeller, Lou, Eaton, Ray – well, maybe not Ray – those guys won’t be missed.

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean that

we can’t use all those young pitchers we have in the minors (and now on the roster)? Dang. Someone’s going to get some good young arms out of us so we can go “sign real pitchers.”

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on May 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Like Paul Byrd and Pedro Martinez!

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is this guy?

Hopefully management will wake up and sign real pitchers

Like Tillman, Matusz, Arreitta, Hernandez, Berken, Bergesen, Erbe?

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver

by Graham71681 on May 29, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

They are fake pitchers.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on May 29, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I KNEW we shouldn't have traded Bedard for all that fake talent

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver

by Graham71681 on May 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

worse...

they’re belly itchers!

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously is this guy on drugs or something

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver

by Graham71681 on May 29, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

AMEN!!!

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver

by Graham71681 on May 29, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

With growth comes pain

and while the partnership with Yahoo! and the placement on SI and CBS Sportsline help grow the site, yeah, it doesn’t always raise the level of the dialogue…

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a lurker pre-Yahoo

I have to say that it’s really not that bad. You can tell which threads to avoid, and you guys still put out great content.

The answer to the “problem” is for more people like me to comment more and maybe actually put up a few quality fanposts. And to not comment on stupid stuff.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jun 1, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The truth is, there are a number of great posters who have come on board recently. I love that the site is getting more visitors. It’s good for all of us. It causes a few headaches, but it’s totally worth it.

I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on Jun 1, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

These posts

remind me of all of the threads on Bleeding Green Nation like “McNabb is a horrible QB” and “Eagles ownership sucks for letting Dawkins go” — it’s posting with no depth

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

by exitfare on May 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

That’s one of the things I always loved about CC, almost always the posting had thought behind it and was full of content.

by Gorilla Bird on May 29, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why this exists

FanPosts are user-created content and do not necessarily reflect the views of the editors of Camden Chat or SB Nation. They might, though.

I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on May 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But I was referring to the fanposts usually having thought and content.

by Gorilla Bird on May 29, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too...

I’ve only begun to post recently, but have read this site for a couple years now – mainly because it was largely free of the B.S. of other such sites. I realize the purpose of fanposts, but felt that for the most part they were intelligent and/or funny and full of good content. Now, that seems to be the case less and less. I guess it happens though – things go in cycles. I just read with a bit more trepidation.

by Mountian Goats on May 30, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stay with the Front Page stuff

We tend to promote the really, really good Fan Posts and Fan Shots anyway.

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you read something you like

be sure to rec it. That’ll keep it at the top of the list and will clue others into what’s worth reading.

I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones

by Stacey on May 30, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right!!!

Lets package Tillman, Arrieta, and Matusz for say…Peavy
=instant championship!!!!
cough cough

by Tetris on May 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

If my avatar

were a video game I think I’d choose Galaga.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on May 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just try to fit everything together

Galaga good too…haven’t played that in forever though.

by Tetris on May 29, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tempest RULED, man, it RULED

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

were = was = whatever

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on May 29, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually...

Legend has it that one time Wieters played all 9 positions and batted all 9 times. The game ended infinity to nothing.

Wieters can do anything.

by John Stephens on May 29, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Also secretly the Owner, Manager, and GM of the Orioles*. Angelos, MacPhail, Trembley? Just puppets of the Wieters Empire.

*Also every other team.

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on May 29, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paradox

Can Matt Wieters run a baseball team so good it could beat Matt Wieters himself?

Lotta people go through life doing things badly. Racing's important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

by Andrew_G on May 29, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see new enthusiasm

coming to a ballpark near you…Come on in and fasten up…it’s gonna be a cool ride.

Bruce E. Barker

by Go Oreos on May 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

BANNED

nah, not really. If I was a mod though… totally.

Seriously though, think (and maybe research) a bit before posting.

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on May 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Wieters IS the answer.

I assume we’re talking about the Trivial Pursuit Matt Wieters Edition.

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on May 29, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't believe this poster

actually joined today to enlighten us with this drivel.
Hey, what happened to Corey?

Hey Smails, you scratched my anchor!

by elktonfan on May 29, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

i miss his mailbags.

"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.

by birdman on May 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And his corner

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? You pick today for this post?

You picked the best day of the best week to be an Oriole fan in recent memory to be Debbie Downer and on top of it throw in the token Angelos bashing. That’s soooo last season.
Lighten up or Matt Wieters will light you up!

http://www.mvn.com/oriolecentral

by Oriole on May 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

just for the Debbie Downer reference

by brooklynlovesorioles on May 29, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

lame buzzkill

it didnt even kill the buzz. Not cool.

by WestcoastO'sFan on May 29, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

The only one who can kill the buzz is Matt Wieters himself.

Because he can kill anything.

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on May 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luke Scott could help

but he wouldn’t kill an Orioles buzz

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on May 30, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had to caption this picture (I guess I do!), I would caption it “Just another day of Tiger hunting for Luke Scott.”

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on May 31, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha

he once had an akward moment just to see what it felt like.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he drink dos equis?

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on Jun 1, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok..So let's take the S off his chest

and get back to baseball..the hype is over..we won..we have enthusiasm and exhuberance and youth now..let’s enjoy the ride…

Bruce E. Barker

by Go Oreos on May 29, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

You clearly know not of what you speak. The neglect the minors so we can “sign real pitchers” attitude is what got us 12 straight losing seasons. You are obviously not paying much attention to what is going on with the Orioles. No, Matt Wieters alone is not the answer, but when you combine him with Jones, Markakis, Huff, Scott, etc., it adds up to a pretty potent lineup. We have other players to complement him already.

by bme2 on May 30, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I just saw him get the first two of his 3500 hits!

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on May 31, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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