Rosenthal: Cubs in talks with O's over Freel
by dkdc on May 8, 2009 12:29 PM EDT
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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9551412/Sources:-Cubs-in-talks-with-O's-over-Freel
The Cubs, seeking more versatility for their bench, are talking to the Orioles about a trade for disgruntled utility man Ryan Freel, according to major-league sources.Freel, 33, plays all three outfield positions, plus second and third base. The revival of Kosuke Fukudome and emergence of Micah Hoffpauir have left the Cubs more in need of an infielder than an outfielder.
If the Cubs acquire Freel, who has approximately $3.3 million remaining in 2009 salary, they likely would part with outfielder Joey Gathright, who has batted only 14 times this season. The Orioles are believed to be talking to other teams as well.
Roch is also saying the Freel is as good as gone.
I don't think any talent will be coming back - if a team is even willing to eat Freel's salary, that's a win for the O's. He was only included in the Ramon trade to take the edge off the salary increase for the Reds.
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Uhm, Gathright won't be with the big club, right?
I mean, seriously, if we can just dump his salary I’m fine, but if Gathright actually dons the Os uni and plays so much as an inning for us, I will be sick.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on May 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you misunderstand
I read that as: If the Cubs trade for Freel, they’ll release Gathright.
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by Brotz13 on May 8, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy's talking to the Cubs?
Shocking.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 8, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SO...
we are now a dumping spot for the cubs junk outfielders GREAT! I didn’t want Pie and now talk is we are getting his twin. Like mentioned above, a salary dump would be totally fine with me too. I wouldn’t mind another team getting into the mix also, either way SO LONG FARNEY!
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gathright?
really? is this a track team or a baseball team?
by pipkin on May 8, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it happens, this would seem to just be a salary dump. Save the Orioles about $2.25M. I would prefer a 20 year old who is an extreme long shot of ever contributing; but whatever. It’s not like we are giving up a piece of the puzzle here.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 8, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
if they plow the two and a quarter million into throwing some money at tough-to-sign draft picks on above-market rates I’ll be quite happy, too.
you know, pry a guy or two away from wasting their time at an SEC or Pac-10 school and instead going to hang out in Aberdeen.
by pipkin on May 8, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
we need guys with hitting abilities not car jumping abilties.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 8, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
i just want them to let nolan reimold start. it’s starting to be an irrational thing with me.
by pipkin on May 8, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed Reimold is tearing it up in Norfolk
.393/.476/.753 35-89 8 2B, 8 HR, 25 RBI
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a beautiful day it will be when
The Birds get that whining lil girl outta here!
"Don't be mad at me, bow to your majesty, i'm so bright the sun wants to battle me!" Juelz Santana (when he was sick)
by FEARtheTERP1 on May 8, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boys can whine, too.
It ain’t just girls.
Come to a 9th grade HS class sometime, you’ll see males are perfectly capable of whining.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 8, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But duck
It’s not insulting to call someone a boy. Only a girl. Because girls are less than boys. Get it? Good. I’m glad we had this talk.
I’m smart, not a dummy. ~Adam Jones
by Stacey on May 8, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here I am, trying to help....
And under the right circumstances, (about 50% at my HS), you’d get fired for calling someone a boy, but not for gender reasons.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 8, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously. major ha ha.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 8, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you say so.
But in a survival situation, my money is on the women.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 12, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not reading
this as we’d be getting Gaithright..more like the Cubs would let him walk. Or better yet, send him packing.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 8, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trembley has a thing for Notre Dame football, right?
So maybe Andy is trying to convince them to give up Samardzija…
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
by getxstoked on May 8, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a deal I can get behind!
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cubs
just let Vizcaino(sp?) go to make room for Smardzija despite Vizcaino having not given up a run yet. I guess the Indians claimed him. Point being, they aren’t going to trade a guy that thye just let a guy go so they could get a guy to be the guy behind the guy. Get it?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 8, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya Know..
Just a thought maybe the O’s should try getting rid of a OF or two to free up this log jam a little. We will have a solid OF with Nicky/Jones/Montanez or Reimold and we have Salazar in AAA and Xavier Avery in Delmarvia package Freel with one of them and maybe we could get a decent not great but decent young arm. I don’t know maybe not
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we're going to trade a left-fielder it should be Montanez.
"I'm having an interment camp constructed under the stadium specifically for Yankees & Red Sox fans" - 11:08 AM Apr 15th from digsby in reply to BaltimoreMD
by getxstoked on May 8, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's the one another team wants I am all for it as long as it pay us dividends too
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and besides...
the cubs have an oscar salazar type in hoffpaiur.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 8, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the other teams want Montanez. DEAL WITH IT.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
by zknower on May 8, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can't work anything out...
…maybe we could just get some cheese to go with Freel’s whine? Fox & Obel’s is a pretty good place on the north side of Chicago to get some.
by Jonny Pops on May 8, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Done deal: Freel for Gathright
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-ostrade508,0,687630.story
The Orioles have traded infielder/outfielder Ryan Freel to the Chicago Cubs for speedy outfielder Joey Gathright.
The deal is expected to be announced within the next hour.
Gathright, 28, has already cleared waivers and will be sent to Triple-A Norfolk, where he’ll join the Tides’ outfield. He had three hits in 15 at-bats with the Cubs this year after batting .254 with 21 stolen bases for the Kansas City Royals last year.
If we didn’t send any cash along with Freel, this is a homerun.
by dkdc on May 8, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what it feels like to be salary dumped twice in a year?
by pipkin on May 8, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farney will cheer him up!
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Cubs pick up Freel’s tab, they’re crazy.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
by birdman on May 8, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't
According to Rosenthal, this is a cash-neutral deal with the Orioles paying the rest of Freel’s salary and the Cubs paying the rest of Gathright’s salary.
The benefit for the O’s is that Gathright is off the 40-man roster, and can be stashed in the minors.
by dkdc on May 8, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Gathright clearing waivers moves me from indifferent to mildly pleased.
He’ll probably never contribute much to the ML team, but Freel wasn’t going to either.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on May 8, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
it shows MacPhail isn’t afraid to correct a mistake and correct it quickly. It’s one thing to eat Jay Gibbons’s (admittedly larger) salary – he wasn’t Andy’s mistake. But to eat the $3+ M on Freel, that’s a pretty public “My bad” on Andy’s part. Good for him to correct it and move on.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 8, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
Andy never wanted Freel – no one in their right mind would want to pay him $4MM.
He was in the deal because the Reds wanted to dump salary.
by dkdc on May 8, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, there's that, too
but he wasn’t afraid to cut bait. But yes, your premise is correct. A contract had to be eaten to be rid of Hernandez.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 8, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not crazy about it but agreed if no cash was sent with Freel it works
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gathright
has less power than the House GOP Caucus at this point.
by Jonny Pops on May 8, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with an ISO of .000
I get the feeling that AM owes the Cubs a solid. This is marginally more effective of a deal than just outrighting Freel. We sent $2M to the Reds with Ramon to take on Freel, now we’re paying his $4M salary to play for the Cubs, in exchange for a no power, no OBP 28yo outfielder. We have 2 All Star quality OF, 1 young serviceable OF, 2 hot prospects, and 1 toolsy former prospect turned project. I see no benefit here.
Now it’s down to just Luuke, Monty, Pie, and Reimold for the LF spot. No problem!
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by CoachOfEarl on May 8, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who exactly
is the 2nd “hot prospect”?
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on May 8, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and who's the young servicable OF?
Luke is like 30 years old. Lou is the project, I assume. Or is Pie the project?
We have two great outfielders, two projects, Luke, and Reimold.
by pipkin on May 8, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I was wrong about Gaithright. I thought there was no way they’d take him. But I guess the point about getting a guy to AAA makes sense.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
by BPinOK on May 8, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe..
they got joey to take reimold’s spot in AAA?
please?
"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17
by daveh873 on May 8, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we can only hope
Reimold would look mighty nice out there in left
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on May 8, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O's cleaned house
Ryan didnt have a role and neither does Joey but he can stay in Triple A…
I hate to say it but as much as I like Luis Montanez I want to see what Nolan can do everyday…its time. He has nothing left to prove. Luis, Wiggy, Pie and Luke can platoon and be backups where appropriate.
But lets find out if Nolan is the answer for 2010.
by sanders833 on May 8, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do we need to know about Freel?
Hey, O’s fans, a Cubs fan here. Other than that he whined about the Os’ cautiousness after his recent injury, what should Cubs fans know about Freel?
Thanks for your thoughts!
by dfrancon on May 8, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we've barely seen him play
I’d ask Reds fans.
That said, it seems like he’s an adequate defender at a bunch of positions who plays hard and will take a walk at the plate.
by pipkin on May 8, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta ask Cinci
He barely played here, and didn’t play that well when he did. But discounting the salary he seems like he can be a useful piece on a team where he fits — spot starts, pinch-hitting, and pinch running, can play OF and IF except SS. Gets on base decently, little power, some speed — but he didn’t really show any of that in Baltimore.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on May 8, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you both . . .
I realize he had more time in Cincy, but thought the more recent info would be good, too. It sounds like he could be what we hoped to find in Gathright. Maybe the change of scenery will benefit them both!
by dfrancon on May 8, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa lite, basically is what you can get from Freel.
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by getxstoked on May 8, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be
exactly what you HAD in Gaithright. A pinch runner.
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by BPinOK on May 9, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Gathright pinch run for us?
He was caught stealing twice already this year, with very few on-base chances.
by dfrancon on May 9, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had 15 ABs with us
He was odd-man-out after we signed Wigginton and acquired Pie. Supposedly a good utility man better suited for the NL.
Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors.
by duck on May 8, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait.. WTF???? Freel is in chicago? No wonder Mr Angelos is an Idoit!!!! Just like he gave away Jack Cust to Oakland. Look Ray Lewis wanted to be a Cowboy,, Did Mr Biscotti let him go? NO!!!!! Because Steve Biscotti is NO CLOWN!!! Unlike Peter Angelos is. How in the hell MLB allow Peter Angelos to own the Orioles? Manny Clowns owned the Expos and MLB took over the Expos. I want the IRS to confidsate the Orioles from Mr Angelos.
by south_florida_oriolesfan on May 14, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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