GameThread: Orioles (29-37) @ Phillies (36-28)
by Scott Christ on Jun 19, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
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This should be a fun series, because one of the teams has to win games. The Orioles are an awful 8-20 on the road, and the Phillies are a b-r-oodle 13-19 at home. Every team in the AL East has a winning record at home, while only the Mets have a winning record at home among NL East teams.
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Rich Hill just has not looked good
But Bastardo’s line isn’t exactly impressive so far either. Series looks like it’ll go 2 out of three for SOMEONE.
We’re going to win Sunday, just because. A win tonight will practically give us the series.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
Bastardo
I wish he had a mustache he could twirl.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
such as...
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw Bastardo pitch last week at Dodgers Stadium.
That is all. Carry on.
"Your wife told you to play in New York.
Well, my wife told me you look like a dork." Boo Teixeira guys.
Anybody know Bastardo's actual nickname? No, really. I mean, it can't be Dirty (or Dirto). And cripes, how'd he survive 6th grade?
Oh, and this just in: the Phorking Phillies are Phmediocre.
World champeens, yeah-yeah-yeah. Please.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
O's Lineup - NL Style.
Brian Roberts – 2B
Nick Markakis – RF
Adam Jones – CF
Aubrey Huff – 1B
Melvin Mora – 3B
Nolan Reimold – LF
Matt Wieters – C
Robert Andino – SS
Rich Hill – LHP
god
I wish scott or ryemold could play 3rd
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
wow Melmo's batting 5th
Is that so he can sacrifice the runner to second so Reimold can knock him in?
"Take on Me" - a-ha
LUke's GOTTA be able to play 1st for 3 games
so we can move Huff to 3B and Mora out of the lineup, right?
Really? We’re sitting our best hitter this year? I know he’s cooling off now, but Scott on the bench and Mora allowed to hit 5th, still?
This is how you lose support among fans, Dave. No way Mora should still be 5th. OK, so Luke Scott can’t play 1B or 3B. Doesn’t mean Mora still has to hit 5th…
"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver
I think Dave takes the whole "loyalty to the veterans/veteran presence" nonsense
a little too strongly. Mora is in the 5 hole b/c he is a veteran and Dave has decided that the rookies have to hit below him.
Zero flexibility.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
At the game
I’ll be at the game… so if you see a group of 4 O’s fans together its most likely me and my friends.
Hope I don’t get pelted by beer bottles or something absurd like that!
They're plastic bottles
You’ll barely feel it
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Jun 19, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How did Hill do against the Phils in the NL?
Please tell me he “owned” the Phillies when he was with the Cubs…
Not sure Hill really "owned" anybody...
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No games vs Phils in 2008
He pitched twice to the Phils in 2007 – Not since then. He picked up a win vs Phils on 8/1/2007 and a loss on 5/11/2007.
Not much to go on.
a'ight
I won’t be on for the game, so, go O’s.
side note.. i wonder what the record is for BB’s in consecutive games (Nolan’s at 7 games right now, two of which were in his only AB)
Gablehouser: Well, that’s too bad, because the answer your teammate gave was correct.
Sheldon: That’s yoouurrrr opinion.
~ Big Bang Theory
hmm.. and per wiki
Consecutive games with a walk
22 – Roy Cullenbine, Detroit Tigers – July 2 through July 22, 1947
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MLB_individual_streaks
Gablehouser: Well, that’s too bad, because the answer your teammate gave was correct.
Sheldon: That’s yoouurrrr opinion.
~ Big Bang Theory
Take it to this Bastardo!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
Gary's drunk already.
Or still drunk from last night, I don’t know.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
we suck
agianst lefties
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
wait
sam perlozzo just happens to be getting wrist surgery, philly broadcasters are really annoying
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
And me.
"If you had Steve Trachsel's stuff, you wouldn't want to throw it either." -- Joe Angel
by Fear and Trembley on Jun 19, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Will this be Werth's first at bat against the franchise?
I am sure it is a sentimental moment for him
Oh for fuck's sake.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
Well, that's certainly less than ideal.
"If you had Steve Trachsel's stuff, you wouldn't want to throw it either." -- Joe Angel
by Fear and Trembley on Jun 19, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not going to make it past the second
Which may be just fine, the way things are going
hey rich hill
its called being good at pitching, you should try it some time
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
PRAISE WIETERS.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
rbi single
is that ok?
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
the
rye-weat connection
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
Shocked by the fact that Rich Hill was standing on first.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
what a sweet swing though
He had a good cut on his foul ball. Then he waited on that slider. Very impressed, I am.
Huff just about took out Rich Hill's right hand.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
Those last two pitches didn't miss by much.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
problem is, if the curve ain't finding the zone
he has got nothing else. You can’t start if you’re essentially a one pitch pitcher.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i realize that you weren't merely praising his curve
little drunk.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What is wrong with Doctor Jones?
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
3 for his last 38
That’s what’s wrong.
"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver
expect nothing less he will part the red sea of phillie fans later on as a sign of his godly like powers
by davetrembling on Jun 19, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he runs like a dump truck but his swing is so sweeeet!
by davetrembling on Jun 19, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
always the big question ...
Can Rich get out of the first inning
One more than they get.
"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver
Right answer.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
quack
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong week, dude
Wrong week.
A PARENT on another softball team started doing that shit to my 12 year old daughter during an at-bat Wednesday. I just about climbed the fence to beat the shit out of them. What kind of adult does that to a 12 year old kid?
"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver
douchy
stuck up, little league parents. I know the type
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What, like started to make quacking noises??
Yea, That is Bullcrap. I’m all for whipping that parent.
And yelling out "It's Mallard Season!"
Funny part is, the kids on the other team are great. They never do that crap to her, not even in the hallways at school. Their PARENTS were the ones doing it.
"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver
Ever seen that episode of South Park?
It makes fun of those ridiculous over the top little league parents. Hilarious and worth the wait.
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
people can help themselves to be aholes its sad
by davetrembling on Jun 19, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
rich DUBEE
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
ugh
MLB.tv on a friday night=FAIL.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
godammit. why does mlb.tv suck so?
mine is actually working but they clearly dumps streams beyond a certain number
if you log on late-ish you get hosed.
oooooooooo
that was TOO close.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
PLEASE GEICO
just stop advertising.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
seriously
i prefer the umpire camp ones.
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
No way...
They have this new commercial idea with Caveman. Its so funny. It says their insurance is so easy a caveman can do it. And there is a caveman right there. Classic.
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you know I heard
that they were all set to unveil a campaign where they have money looking at people.
i heard they wanted a cute animal for their campaign
so they are going with a cute iguana or something.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
so i came late, how did we score?
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Mora HBP, Reimold double, WIETERS 2-RBI double, Rich Hill RBI single.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
MarKICKASS!
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
SAAAAFE!
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Wow
the ump was in such good position for that play, almost got spiked by Markakis tho
and teh LF botched that
Just Bought MLB At Bat for my IPhone
I’m listening to the game live from my phone. God I Love Technology.
I can’t wait til they let you watch every game live just like MLB.TV.
Geaux Eaux's
It's All Good Down Here
Just HOT as HELL!
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 19, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Man I would die for cool weather right now.
It’s in the Mid 90’s here almost everyday.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 19, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
upgrade to 3.0!
you get VIDEO!
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
scratch that, just video clips. bummer.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Yeah I have 3.0
but right now they only allow you watch 2 live featured games a day (Today: Cubs vs Indians and Red Sox vs Braves). They say that they are planning on releasing the full slate of games in the next few weeks. I can’t wait!
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 19, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
SWEEEEEEEEEET.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
probably better video than MLB.t effing v
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
The Video is pretty good
I’m watching the Red Sox Braves game right now. The PHN are getting 1 hit through 5 by the Braves. 5-0 Braves are up.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 19, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
how do u get video?
i go to that game and only see audio
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
If you click on Red Sox Braves
The Line Score Pops up and then you click on the yellow .tv icon in the bottom right hand corner.
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 19, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
not a TV icon for me
it’s a headphones icon.
maybe my app needs updating.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
Yeah it probably does
At the top of the main screen you should see Featured AtBat.tv Games
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 19, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
YUP!
Just updated and I got it. AWESOME.
Going to see Drag Me to Hell now. Will be taking the Os in my pocket. :)
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
it's truly the best thing ever.
like having an in-tune radio in your pocket.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
QS from Mr Rich Hill
That’ll do, Rich. That’ll do.
It's 4 in the morning. Too much to drink. All the girls look hot. So, the Nationals are Jennifer Lopez to me. —Julian Tavarez
My thoughts exactly.
If I see her at the next home game.
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
takes me back to
when I’d cheat in n64 baseball games to bunt homeruns.
The special teams
with the computer programmers as the teams were legit. Angel Studios and….?
And hit a homer with Junior Griffey every time (L L R R R L L, I believe)
Why even cheat with him?
He basically hit one every time anyway.
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
triple play baseball
home run bunting
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Roaring applause
compared to his other starts
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So far I think it is...
but I feel like everyone is going to vote for Wieters just because he got 2 RBIS
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda feel like we stole something
w/ Hill getting a quality start in this park.
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
GOT UM
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
Heads up play by BRob and Huff.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
stop swinging at bad pitches AJ
Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 19, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
i'm gonna say huff makes that play ... more time in the air
but you know me i’m an inveterate huff defender. but only, you know, because he’s our best player.
Huffs was over the shoulder too
thats a hard fucking catch to make
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The game is not in the balance
He only hits RBIs when they are game winners
by John Stephens on Jun 19, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Incredibly.
I’m putting it solely on Selig.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
REIMOLD!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
Reimold, Wieters, Andino > Pie, Izturis, Zaun
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
I think
the jury is still out on andino vs. izzy.
Far as I'm concerned they are interchangeable
but both are passable, just so happens Andino is paired with the better group.
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
by Bee the Ball on Jun 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no doubt although jury is out on izzy v. andino
izzy might go in a trade for prospects tho if young andino proves himself
Boom - roasted
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
by Bee the Ball on Jun 19, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian has been about as useful as a bucket of warm spit lately
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
I will gladly wear that one
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
by Bee the Ball on Jun 19, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
my father just got home
and since we’re playing in an NL ballpark, he said “who is the last oriole pitcher to get a base hit?”
And I told him about Rich Hill. Now I just thought, at this point in the game, he has the WINNING HIT.
O yea, and now I also just remembered how BAEZ was the last pitcher to have a hit before Hill.
Yup, good times.
i know :(
He’s looking like he did this time a year ago now. :/
Filly fans fucking suck. I am so glad I am not from there.
Why the hell are they booing so damn much? Its YOUR team. You are supposed to support them.
They deserve all the bad karma
they bring on themselves.
"... four-run leads just aren't my friend," George Sherill.
by Bee the Ball on Jun 19, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of Philly fans are good people.
Most of them that I know are still so high off winning the WS that they almost don’t care what happens this year. I mean they want to win, but if they don’t…World F’ing Champeens, and all that.
I think the obnoxious Phillies fans are mostly bandwagoners who now expect the team to win every game.
Now, Eagles fans, or Flyers…they are usually a different breed of awful.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Confident we won't suck in the bottom of the 9th, so I am out of here.
To celebrate this victory. It was a fun time tonight, peace.
Don Baylor'd it, if you will.
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
also a favorite move of
Jeter, Youkilis, Brent Butler, Craig Biggio and Tony Phillps.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
er, Brett Butler.
Brent Butler didn’t have a favorite move, because he sucked.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 19, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
O!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
I!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
L!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
E!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
MAGIC! MAGIC! MAGIC!
" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby
"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."
DUB YA.
7-3 in interleague? i root for the orioles right?
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'"
Earl Weaver
QUESTION
how was wieters catch scored? with the runner moving up to second strictly goin by the book, (and milton bradley), it shoulda been an error. in box doesnt have it as one. just wondering
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'"
Earl Weaver
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