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I was thinking today about how tonight Erik Bedard will finally be facing his old teammates after the O's missed him due to injury twice last season. But as soon as I thought about it, I realized that most of this team never played with Bedard. A quick comparison of the 2007 roster to the 2009 rosters shows that the only current Orioles to play with Bedard in 2007 are Brian Roberts, Melvin Mora, Nick Markakis, Aubrey Huff, Jeremy Guthrie, Jamie Walker, and Danys Baez. Since Bedard left over 70% of the Orioles roster has turned over. It's possible that after this year only Roberts, Markakis, and Guthrie will remain. This isn't news to anyone who follows the Orioles, of course, but still, that's a lot of dudes to get rid of.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 roster; it'll turn your stomach it's so bad. I can't even believe I watched those guys. I made up a 25 man roster from 2007 based on the players who spent the most time with the team that year so that I could see where they are now.

In the Majors

Ramon Hernandez - He's the starting catcher for the Cincinatti Reds and appears to be doing ok. His hitting is pretty much in line with his last few years, but his defensive numbers look good. He's caught 37% of base stealers (10 out of 27) and hasn't allowed a passed ball. I haven't actually seen him play, but the guys at the Red Reporter don't seem to have anything bad to say about him. In a poll on May 29th, he was voted best off season acquisition by a landslide.

Kevin Millar - Kevin loves the AL East and is on the bench for the Blue Jays. He's gotten into 28 games and is holding his own as a backup with an OPS+ of 96. I hope he's happy in Toronto because he's one of my favorite dudes ever.

Miguel Tejada - Miggi is off to a great 2009 with the Houston Astros. In 50 games he has hit 5 HR and 20 2B and is OPS'ing .908. He seems due to a drop off soon, however, since his batting average is .353 and his OBP is only .380. Once his batting average drops to its normal .285-.300 range he'll look more like his career average, maybe less since he's getting so old.

Erik Bedard - After an injury plagued 2008 season, Erik is living up to his potential this year. In 54.1 innings he has 54 Ks and his K/BB is back near his 2007 level at 3.60. His ERA is just 2.48, but he's been a bit plagued by the home run. The Orioles will have their hands full with him tonight.

Still Playing Somewhere

Corey Patterson - AAA Syracuse (WSN). Corey has an embarrassing .299 OBP in AAA. I hope he invested well.

Paul Bako - In AA Reading (PHI) since 5/29.

Jay Gibbons - After getting released by the Marlins in Spring Training, he signed with the Newark Bears on May 11th. In 27 games he has 3 home runs and an OBP of .303.

Tike Redman - He's Jay's teammate in Newark, and he's doing very poorly.

Brian Burres - He made two starts for the Blue Jays and is now in AAA Las Vegas. Somewhere, Jim Palmer weeps.

Chad Bradford - Chad had elbow surgery in the offseason and is currently rehabbing in the Rays' minor league system.

Chris Ray - We all know where he is. Start pitching better and get back to Baltimore, Chris!

Out of Baseball

Jay Payton - Mr. Surly isn't affiliated with any team that I can find. Poor chap can't even get anybody to update his Wikipedia page.

Chris Gomez - He hasn't caught on anywhere after the O's released him in ST this year. Chris is getting pretty old, I'd be surprised to see him play again.

Daniel Cabrera - Unemployed after he refused a minor league assignment by the Nats. Rumor has it he might end up with the Marlins.

Steve Trachsel - The Trashman was cooked after 8 starts last year. He hasn't been heard from since his release.

John Parrish - Signed a minor league deal by the O's in February then released during ST, John hasn't pitched anywhere since as far as I can tell.

Rob Bell - He was last seen in AAA Charlotte in 2008, but he was awful. I'm guessing at age 32 he finally decided to hang it up.

Paul Shuey - Mercifully retired (again)

I can't even begin to talk about some of the other drek that was on that roster, especially the pitchers in August and September. Let's hope we never see those days again.

 

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Nice post.

Kind of the nature of being a fan… in years like this, you have players to root for, some years, you’re basically rooting for the Oriole Bird. I know I’m not the only one who was gleeful about watching Cabrera lose a bunch of games this year.

But you missed my favorite fuckup… Sal Fasano.

1933 was a bad year

by Senatorrosewater on Jun 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh, shubacca...

those were the days.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I completely forgot about that whole Shuey mess

wow, those were some freakin’ awful teams

by pipkin on Jun 2, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Loewen?

He’s sort of a big one, right?

by basemonkey on Jun 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Adam Loewen started 7 games that year

When I started thinking about this post I was going to compare the 2007 25 man roster to the 2009 25 man roster, so I picked out the 5 starters that made the most starts. Then I changed my mind but already had those 25 players. Garrett Olson made 7 starts also, but the five pitchers with the most starts were Daniel Cabrera (34), Erik Bedard (28), Jeremy Guthrie (26), Steve Trachsel (25), Brian Burres (17). Other pitchers to make starts for the Orioles in 2007: Jon Leicester, Radhames Liz, Jaret Wright, Victor Santos, Victor Zambrano, and Kurt Birkins.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jun 2, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and

Jim Johnson did appear in 1 game in 2007 so I guess technically he also was on Bedard’s team. But it was one game, so whatever.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jun 2, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loewen

He has a line of .181/.294/.255 in 94 AB’s at A+ ball with the Blue Jays. While playing 1B/OF.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/batting/L/Adam-Loewen.shtml

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 2, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one told him that

one’s ERA is supposed to be low and you’re BA is supposed to be high. Silly Loewen, he’s all mixed up!

"Take on Me" - a-ha

by exitfare on Jun 2, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd know a lot about walks

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 2, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZING

exitfare, you dropped the ball. good thing NHZ was there to pick things up for you.

by pipkin on Jun 2, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not always sharp as a tack

props to NHZ

"Take on Me" - a-ha

by exitfare on Jun 2, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lol'ed

thanks for teh props.

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jun 2, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

Amazing how many of these guys aren’t even around a year and a half later. In other ex-Oriole news, I turned on the MFY/Tribe game last night just in time to see Greg Aquino give up a tiebreaking 2-run single in the late innings. What a piece of crap he was. Also, the Brewers just dumped Jorge Julio after he allowed five runs (four earned) without retiring a batter last night. His ERA was 7.79 and he had 13 K and 15 BB. He’s now been with seven teams since 2006.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jun 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ahahahahahaha-- I can't help laughing BEFORE this comment: Daniel should take attitude lessons from...Sid!!!

Really! You see Sid sulking around when people DFO him?

Oh, and D-Cabs plus Marlins = 1 six-ft. nine-in. dead fish, ready for plaque mounting.

Anyway, good post, Stace, thx— somehow I feel better for it.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jun 2, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha, good point

Sid sacks up and rides the minor league bus while waiting for the next delusional GM to re-sign his ass. Daniel should do the same.

by pipkin on Jun 2, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I took Ray as a rookie in a Fantasy keeper league

I kept waiting for Chris to return to some sort of form and now he is in the minors. I am just sitting here stuck with him like a lead anchor. ARGH!!!!

by Beerbear on Jun 2, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to be the arrogant Orioles fan...

but we should keep this post around for the next couple years. It’ll give us perspective. Anytime someone says something douchy and Red Sox-ish, we can make them read the 2007 O’s roster.

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on Jun 2, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who the fuck is Gustavo Molina???

I was living in NYC that year and wasn’t watching games, but I followed pretty closely and have absolutely no recollection of that guy.

Also I can’t believe Cabrera threw 200+ innings when he did so badly!

Kurt Birkins with 69 baserunners in 34.1 innings. Garrett Olson with 72 baserunners in 32.1 innings. YUCK!

by O'sFan21 on Jun 2, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How freakin pathetic is the following statement
Other pitchers to make starts for the Orioles in 2007: Jon Leicester, Radhames Liz, Jaret Wright, Victor Santos, Victor Zambrano, and Kurt Birkins.

Hey Smails, you scratched my anchor!

by elktonfan on Jun 2, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I attended one of Wright's whopping 3 starts

He gave up 2 R (1 ER) in 5 innings but left with (gasp!) an injury. Guts pitched three innings of relief, whiffing three and giving up a run. See here. Corey Patterson’s home run was our only score. God help us.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jun 2, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t this the team when Duquette made the statement about getting to .500 and using that a springboard into the future?

Not that this is important in the grand scheme of things, but that one statement perfectly illustrated how completely full of shit and dysfunctional the front office was. The entire goal was to pull together a bunch of below average players, mix them with some old retreads, and pray they all have a career year so the O’s could get the losing season streak monkey off their backs.

by drj on Jun 2, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would have been nice to get a bit more for Ramon Hernandez

Than a guy who gets released in the first couple of weeks.

But I guess the main idea was getting him and his paycheck out of the way.

by alexw on Jun 2, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The O's also got Brandon Waring and Justin Turner

Waring is with the Keys and Turner with the Tides.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jun 2, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Round IS a shape!

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jun 2, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O's haven't turned the corner yet

I admit the 2007 roster looks horrific but the strange thing is even with better players the O’s still haven’t got their act together. This team still hasn’t developed a winning attitude and still find a way to lose.When they face tough pitchers they simplty roll over not even making the pitcher break a sweat. You can’t just sit there an complain about having to face tough pitchers,you have to figure out a way to manufacture runs. The O’s need a game changing bat more than anything and that guy coud be Salazar if given a chance. Does anybody really believe he wouldn’t be better than Wiggy? The O’s have been slow all year when it comes to improving the bullpen.When Koji comes back release Hendrickson,make Bass the long guy and Hernandez the 5th-7th inning guy to pick short starts up.

Bringing up Weiters when they did was totally unecessary and could ruin his career,just in a cynical move to put fans in the seats.

by TheThumper on Jun 3, 2009 6:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you know how you manufacture runs?

By being good at hitting. This team is better at hitting (and with the potential to get better than they are) then recent O’s teams.

Wieters ruin his career? What are you, high? Virtually every observer thought that if they weren’t manipulating service time he would’ve been the opening-day catcher.

Sigh…

by pipkin on Jun 3, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now they face Vargas

Another tough lefty who’s been on a roll lately. Detroit and Seattle have the best ERA’s in the AL and there was a time Oakland was up there.I expect a good game from Bergy tonight but it might not matter if the O’s continue not to score runs.

by TheThumper on Jun 3, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not so quick...

Maybe they’ll call up Salazar, he could be the game changing bat they so dearly need. Send down whats his name, that new catcher.

by uneasy rider on Jun 3, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, Salazar kind of sucks

and is old and out of options, bringing him up before, say, September, unless there is a catastrophic injury involving Huff, Wigginton, and Mora all at once is a really fucking stupid move.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 3, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Salazar a game changing bat?????

What the FUCK are you thinking????

by O'sFan21 on Jun 4, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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