Rotation spots

by ironman8 on Jun 2, 2009 8:18 PM EDT Comment 26 comments

with Uehara scheduled to (possibly) come back June 10th...which youngster gets bumped from the rotation first, as that happens? Berken? Bergesen? Hernandez? This is assuming Guthrie and Hill are locks...for now.

Any insight, please pass it along asap! THANKS.

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My bet is Hernandez

He’s the biggest prospect of the three and they have been patient with prospects so far. So based on track record they will bump him back down and let him work on his control for a bit more.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 2, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah I agree there

and if it isnt Hernandez, it would most likely then be Berken. I doubt you’ll Bergesen go back to Norfolk for the time being.

by cdavis627 on Jun 2, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions

After last night, it's Hernandez

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on Jun 3, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions

gotta agree...

i mean, it’s hard to say whether or not berken or bergy were able to “turn it on” before their last starts, but the results speak for themselves. while hernandez seems have more upside than either, as it stands today, they seem to be more polished.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

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by j.q. higgins on Jun 3, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions

anyone think

Koji takes a spot in the pen? He’s a proven relief guy, right? In any event, these problems are waaaaay better then our regular “Waters, Simon, Eaton, Hendrickson” choice problems.

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on Jun 2, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions

it's possible

I love Koji, but he seems to lose it around the 5th inning. If the young guys are performing Koji would be a great spot starter/long reliever

by O! on Jun 2, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I touched on this in another thread

but I think Koji needs to start, and one of the young guys should go to the pen. Koji is older and more seasoned, and having him shoulder the load for now will give enough time for one of the young guys to acclimate themselves to the majors.

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by exitfare on Jun 2, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

I think I plus-oned this in that other thread too, but I totally agree… Plus I just plain like Koji.

by Mountian Goats on Jun 2, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions

It makes sense to put Hernandez in the pen

More than likely where he’ll reside in the coming seasons.

by Dr Orpheus on Jun 3, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions

I thought Koji was going to the 'pens?'

now he’s starting? I’m confused.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jun 2, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Me too...

I thought we’d already received the backup goaltender we’d gotten in return. Pens ain’t gonna be happy.

by Mountian Goats on Jun 2, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions

this is what im asking…what are the Os plans? Basically…will hernandez stick in the rotation upon Kojis return next week……????

by ironman8 on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions

We don't work for the Orioles

how would we know?

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by Stacey on Jun 2, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I also love how this guy needs to know ‘ASAP’. Like he’s basing some pretty big life decisions off the answer to this question. :-P Just kidding….

by NewYorkOriole on Jun 2, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions

fantasy baseball perhaps?

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on Jun 3, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah I know, I’m in a fantasy league myself. It was more tounge in cheek….

by NewYorkOriole on Jun 3, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions

anyone in the Baltimore area…around the team…up to date on the news via blogs, local newspapers, etc…anything you hear, im just asking you pass the word along. thats all! thanks

by ironman8 on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

My guess

The decision probably won’t be made until it absolutely has to. And word of that decision probably won’t be announced until a day or two before a move is actually made.

I would think it’ll be performance based, if everyone in the rotation is pitching well, Koji may go to the pen. If not, whoever is struggling the most will get sent down (other than Guthrie).

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by BirdFanInPhilly on Jun 3, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions

So if you want to set up a rotation after Koji gets back...

Guthrie
Uehara
Bergesen
Hill
Berken

Close?

by bbxxj on Jun 3, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions

Sounds about right

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on Jun 3, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions

i agree

Hernandez has to go back to AAA Norfolk. Especially after the bad game he had against Seattle last night. I know one bad start should not automatically send you back to the minors, however, i dont think he is game ready for the majors. He could learn more bieng at Norfolk. I agree with the abouve rotation. Although i would be inclined to put Koji in the bullpen, and fill the open rotation spot with either Tillman or Arrieta. I know it sounds crazy, but thats what i would do.

by orioleDEN on Jun 3, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions

What if he allows 1 ER in 7 inning while striking out 8 in his next start?

It doesn’t make that much sense to me to make the decision now. Orioles should wait until they have more information next week to make this decision. I’m not saying Hernandez shouldn’t go down, but nobody has to make this decision right now.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jun 3, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Doesn't need to be made until AT LEAST June 9

and maybe the day of June 10.

"I’m going to go out and buy pizzas for everybody, and we’re going to have a pajama party out there waiting for Wieters..." - Dave Trembley

by duck on Jun 3, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

I still think they move him down

I did before last night’s game and i do now. He has the most upside and there should be a spot for him when he is ready. Also i don think he has proved everything he can in AAA. As for the bullpen, I think he could benefit more by pitching more innings in AAA.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jun 3, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't think he pitched that bad.

The first two runs were borderline unearned, as Ichiro’s “hit” could have been a throwing error just as easily. Plus if Baltimore isn’t in the Branyon shift, his single becomes a groundout, maybe a DP.

Then Reinmold misplays Lopez’ flyball. That was an error, even if scorer’s routinely don’t assign it on on such plays.

I think Hernandez was pitching with from behind with no support. With Bedard handcuffing the O’s, Hernandez probably felt he had to be perfect. That sort of pressure tends to work against a pitcher. Overall, I wouldn’t demote him because of this start. In fact I think he showed a lot of why the O’s promoted him in the first place.

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by timg56 on Jun 3, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions