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GameThread: Orioles (32-38) @ Marlins (36-36)

Baltimore Orioles at Florida Marlins, Jun 24, 2009 7:10 PM EDT


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Fans (?) in Miami will be treated to one hell of an excellent pitching matchup tonight at 7:10. I mean, just take a look at these stat lines and try to control yourself. You'll likely be overcome with the desire to start an online petition to make this the All-Star Game starting matchup, or even name them Cy Youngs for their leagues.


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Jason Berken 1-3 5 5 0 0 0 0 26.1 33 20 20 2 10 16 6.84 1.63


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Ricky Nolasco 3-6 12 12 1 0 0 0 61.2 82 52 49 9 17 55 7.15 1.61

BUT SERIOUSLY, FOLKS! Nolasco is on the short list for Fantasy Baseball's Biggest Bust, 2009 (Starting Pitcher), up there with Daisuke Matsuzaka and Rich Harden, both of whom are on my fantasy team. I just put Daisuke on the FA market. I've seen enough!

Nolasco has also posted a 2.50 ERA in three starts since returning from a stint at AAA, so maybe I shouldn't bust on him so hard.

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My bad

but that U.S.-Spain soccer game was AWESOME

by Timmy L. on Jun 24, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i know

finally had a good game. bocanegra’s return was clutch

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shockingly awesome

Although I was rooting for Spain…I recognized more of their players than the ones from my own country

"Take on Me" - a-ha

by exitfare on Jun 24, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm you should have invested in some quality fantasy pitching

like i did! Notables include John Maine, Joel Hanrahan, and Brad Lidge! total domination right there!

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 5:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stupid Nolasco

I drafted him in fantasy and dropped his ass when he went down to the minors.

I didn’t read last night’s game thread but I’m hoping one of you stepped up to identify the Golden Girls house.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jun 24, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There was indeed a winner

You’re looking right at him.

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 24, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only 6 games out of the wild card

GO O’s

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, I'm the old guy, so I can ask

Who is that?

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jadakiss

"Take on Me" - a-ha

by exitfare on Jun 24, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is he still around?

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

i dont know who it is actually

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty boring lineup without Jones and Reimold

But then again, watching AJ is pretty painful.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

O's Starting Lineup

1. Brian Roberts – 2B
2. Felix Pie – CF
3. Nick Markakis – RF
4. Aubrey Huff – 1B
5. Melvin Mora – 3B
6. Luke Scott – LF
7. Matt Wieters – C
8. Robert Andino – SS
9. Jason Berken – RHP

Geaux Eaux's

by NawlinsOriole on Jun 24, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pie 2nd?

really? I mean I know it’s in vogue to question Mora 5th but…

by pasaluki on Jun 24, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats better than

melmo at 2nd and pie 5th

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is that...

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pie!

I like Pie!

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

me too

i’m currently helping myself to a massive piece of strawberry rhubarb pie. delicious

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like pie

but prefer bread mold

by O! on Jun 24, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given the choice...

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing Pie wasn't given his chance

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, 'cause ONE at-bat is totally enough evidence to prove your point

If you want to argue you’d rather have Pie than Reimold in LF, you go right ahead and make that argument.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you actually think I want that? We’ve had this conversation many, many times, and I just wanted Felix to get his shot.

Since being cut out of the lineup, though, Felix has continually shown up in limited playing time.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which I would argue proves he's a great fit as a 4th OF

and nothing more. I love the fact we haven’t read one article with Felix bitching about playing time (I’m looking at YOU, Ryan Freel). Actually, I like our OF situation just the way it is.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't disagree with Felix likely being a 4th outfielder anyway

It just still irks me that the FO/coaches jointly agreed to cut Pie out prematurely.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see an argument he should have had a few more weeks....

but part of me is glad Nolan got the chance he did when he did.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to back me up, Felix

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't bother me

basically the same as Markakis hitting a grounder that gets Pie out but B Rob to 3rd. Pie running to 2nd was part of why B Rob made it to 3rd. I think.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish Delmarva was at home

so I could compare attendance numbers…

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Only Buck Martinez

could call a ball high that was at the belt.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, how long before Jason Berken rejoins David Hernandez

back in Norfolk?

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, wouldn't Hernandez be the likely candidate to replace him?

Frankly I don’t know why Hernandez went down and Berken stayed up.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hernandez actually was getting worse results at the time

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has

about 5 minutes

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that sucked.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is going to be a long night

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 24, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's got all the makings of one

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by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you stink melvin

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huff

shoulda come off the bag. i hate it when 1Bs reach into the baseline to try and make plays

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Job #1 - control the ball

Gotta keep the ball in front of you. Foot on the base does no good if the ball sails past you.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 batters, no outs, 2 runs.

Yup, this game is shaping up to be fun for all!

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Make that 4...

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, if Berken doesn't get out of the first inning tonight

And all indications say he won’t, he has to go back to the minors, right?

I am not a fan of this kid.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, maybe he will make it to the 2nd

I still think he belongs back in Norfolk

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has the potential

to devolve into Garret Olson.

His upside could be a useful #4 or #5, and there ain’t nothin’ wrong with that.

I’d love a #4 capable of winning 12 or so, and I think he could do that with more experience.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has a 67 ERA+.

Granted, that’s only in 5 games started so far, but nothing about him says “ready for the majors.”

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he isnt THAT bad

he had two great starts that were wasted. that start agains the tigers where we got shutout by cy young…..i mean edwin jackson………was outstanding. give him a chance

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, Buck...

…you just said Uggla and H-Ram have homered in the same game 14 times this season.

Hanley only has 11 HR this season, I believe. So, in short, huh?

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow I go to grab dinner for 20 minutes and all hell breaks loose

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2runs

is not equal to all hell breaking loose

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow no shit?

Am I on a computer right now?

I was saying at 0 outs and 2 runs…thats close to hell breaking loose.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it had been Danny Cabs

we’d all be a twitter about how he was making strides towards improving as a pitcher.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely disagree with Wieters and Bick

Without looking up the statistics, Matt has been abysmal with two strikes.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You are correct

0-2: .00 BA
1-2: .071 BA
2-2: .091 BA
3-2: .200 BA

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=wietema01&year=&t=b

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interleague goes on for far too long

I can’t stand it.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that guy

we dominated last nite….lindstrom…..is now on the DL

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 pitches, 2 outs

Marlins are hacking, and Berken’s hanging in there.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice inning.

time for some runs now.

by typozzz on Jun 24, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god damn

Nick is looking awful

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i sense a losing streak

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has been for a while.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mediocre defense from our catchers

wieters wasnt blocking the plate at all

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that run was Luke's fault

he need to get it in quicker

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm switching over to Wipeout and I Survived a Japanese Game Show

Hey, the kids win. Keep me informed…

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Atleast Jones knows what he is doing wrong

If he was oblivious that’d be a bigger problem.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MELMO!

clutch two out hitting

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

watching games

in this stadium is painful

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey everyone, missed much so far?

Hendrickson looks very, very hittable.

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A really forgettable game so far.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

David Hernandez pulled after 40 pitches

and Koji is expected not to make his next start.

Koji’s gotta go to the bullpen, right? IF he can’t go 6 IP without hurting himself, and fatigues when pitching when it’s 75 degrees and not humid, what’s August in Baltimore going to look like?

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To try and attract fans?

Although, correct me if I’m wrong, it’s NOT going to be domed?

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retractable roof, I believe.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you seen this one?

Guys are getting pied Dave Trembley can't explain it

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jun 24, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, but have you seen how many people are NOT in it.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

although

Matt doesn’t seem to like blocking the plate

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude's 6'5"

All he has to do is stand there.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya

but he’s standing on the wrong side

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA.

DON’T FUCKING RUN ON NICK, DIPSHITS.

Wait, no, keep doing it.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's why I have TiVo

Can’;t wait to see it.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good grief

get hendo outta there. He’s serving up meatballs

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I CAN wait to see that....

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love

watching markakis gun ppl out at the plate. that throw was a rope

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andino is a terrible bunter.

Get him some lessons with Mora or something.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is one of the few things

Mora still does right.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

I hate that he does it, but at least he uses proper technique when he does.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

that inning sucked

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Which went higher?

Wieters pop up or Dino’s bunt?

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wieters pop up

Dino’s bunt was more of a loopy line drive write to the 1B

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just cus I felt like answering

doesnt mean I don’t notice the sarcasm

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Answering seems like you think its a serious question...

As if I was not aware that Wieters pop up went maybe 100+ feet into the air and Dino’s bunt went about 15 feet.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was out playing softball until like an hour ago.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrible call.

Bonifacio was most certainly out.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And now he scored on that bullshit.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bonifacio "beat out" a grounder (to my eye)

Throwing error on a steal of second, he took third, then Felix Pie was daydreaming in center so he scored.

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 24, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

weiters threw the ball into the outfield

and pie held the ball and let bonifacio score from first.

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was on Pie more than Matt.

Though Matt probably should have just let him take the base.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

felix pie's baseball IQ

is threatening to drop below melmo’s OPS…..now thats saying something considering they are both down around 5

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what in the blue fuck was that?

FUCK YOU PIE.

Wieters mistake sucked too, but YOU LET THE MAN SCORE.

This is why he will NEVER be an everyday MLB player.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate lazy players…one of my biggest pet peeves. Like not running out a ground ball. Fucking Pie

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can handle lazy, I guess

but I cannot handle guys who play stupid. Pie has made two HUGE mental blunders tonight, once on the bases, once in the field.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think if you are being paid to do something

You fucking do it with all you got. I dunno why its always bugged me.

But hey….Pie is outta the game now.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Felix Pie is the new Luis Matos

We’re going to hear about his “potential” and watch his lazy ass for far too long before he ends up on that AAA team in DC and then is never heard from again.

by punkrawka on Jun 24, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be completely honest

i watched him with the cubs last year and dont think he has any potential at all. same cruddy bat and same poor defense

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just dont fucking understand it

As an athlete you should want to compete. And when you finally get a chance you would expect him to come out and be exceptional. I mean look at what Dino has done with his chance.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't always work that way

Coach at the HS or above level, and you’ll see it EVERY YEAR. I imagine you’ll see it at the Little League level. There are kids with all the talent in teh world and no work ethic, and kids without a lick of talent who will run through walls for a coach.

It happens.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will take talent over heart&effort any day

granted, you love to get a guy who is both talented AND a hustler (Craig Biggio, say), but you can’t always get both.

I don’t really think this about other sports, either, just in baseball, really.

Pie appears to have neither.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I think baseball might be the only sport where that is true. I’d prob take talent over heart & effort as well.

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heart and effort go pretty far in ice hockey, too.

Ask Donald Brashear.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fear him. I will ask him nothing, lest I be brained with a hockey stick.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

that man is friggin huge

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

This is why I’d take Adam Dunn on my team over David Eckstein. There’s no question about it. But I’m with Johnny_S overall — when you’re a fringe player like Pie or Matos, right on the bubble between getting castoff and maybe finding a long-term payday as a 4th outfielder, I just don’t understand HOW a player couldn’t put their all into it. If you hit 40 dongs a year, no one’s gonna care if you hoof it a little bit. Except Joe Morgan.

by punkrawka on Jun 24, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as you can see from the past few games

thats not something the O’s seem to know

by twistedlogic on Jun 24, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“as you can see from the past few games twelve seasons”

fixed

by Steve. on Jun 24, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck Felix

Send his ass packing just for that one. Yes, that’s rash and no, I don’t care.

by punkrawka on Jun 24, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

he’s really tall, which people think is a handicap for a catcher… not as quick to get outta the crouch and whatnot

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He threw over 93 MPH as a closer at Ga Tech

It’s gotta be pretty good!

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It mighta been fast there

but it was WELL off the mark

by Johnny_S on Jun 24, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that was going to be a double.

But then it just hung up there forever.

" I'm happy to announce that we've made Adam Jones our 4th and 5th starting pitcher as well as bench coach and team chaplain" - peter_angelos 8:04 AM May 14th from digsby

"Matt Wieters Adopted Mark Texiera's Parents Because He Felt They Needed A Son To Be Proud Of."

by getxstoked on Jun 24, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man

it really looks like the team is disheartened after yesterday’s game. They just don’t have the intensity here.

by SidewinderX on Jun 24, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about that

HIts aren’t landing, and they’ve made some questionable, and one lazy, decisions defensively.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albers is ineffective tonight

Brandon Snyder, 1B. Remember that name.

by Baysox39 on Jun 24, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The two things the Orioles need is to go over fundamentals during BP

and hire a traveling “shrink” to anaylize why this team goes through so many highs and lows in such a short time. This would prepare us for 2010 and 11

Brandon Snyder, 1B. Remember that name.

by Baysox39 on Jun 24, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm normally in favor of sports psychology

but I dont think it would help too much there

Every team and every player goes through slumps

It’s just baseball IMO

by NickMarkaces on Jun 24, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Hunter

once again impresses with his pop culture knowledge.

by Steve. on Jun 24, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

O's take a series from the Mets, then travel to Philly and sweep the World Champs...

Then travel to Marlins and are on the verge of getting swept. This is a strange game.

Brandon Snyder, 1B. Remember that name.

by Baysox39 on Jun 24, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rally anteater

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know he had a miscue tonight

But I will be damn glad to see the last of that sumbitch Bonifacio at 3rd. He can’t hit a lick but he can play that corner.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wieters stanks with two strikes

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pathetic to say the least.

Brandon Snyder, 1B. Remember that name.

by Baysox39 on Jun 24, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now we get to hear "Big Bad" Trembley "spin" the obvious and possible take soft ball questions.

From the only two sports writers in Baltimore. If they were allowed to travel to FL.

Brandon Snyder, 1B. Remember that name.

by Baysox39 on Jun 24, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's the other one?

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Jun 24, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus, Tom Davis just said we may have acquired our 1B of the future

no we didn’t, Tom. Our 1B of the future is maybe named Brandon Snyder, but it sure as hell ain’t Michael Aubrey.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andy is confusing me. I know he said he would buy the bats however....

Eric Crozier 30,from the Maryland Blue Crabs and presently in Bowie? Michael Aubrey 30,from the Cleveland organization? Felix Pie from the Cubs? If you tell me he is stocking the minors then that if fine but we need 3rd basemen, SS and 2nd basemen. Not freaking 1st Basemen and outfielders. They are a dime a dozen.

Brandon Snyder, 1B. Remember that name.

by Baysox39 on Jun 24, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I seriously doubt Andy thinks that he acquired the 1B of the future, either

He probably just needs more bats in AAA

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Jun 24, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheap acquisition

Shades of Guthrie.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

He might not hurt as a fill in in the short term, but I agree with you.

Wieters is HERE and The Phils are in First, doesn't get much better:)

by phillybmore on Jun 24, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Down 0 – 2 Wieters is batting .000/.000/.000

Down 1-2 Wieters is .071/.071/.071

Even 2-2 Wieters is .091/.091/.091

His numbers after going down 0-1/0-2/1-2 are just as bad while his stats when ahead are impressive.

I’m not sure what the league averages are, but I’ve just noticed that Wieters swings and misses quite often with two strikes on him. Matt seems to foul off numerous pitches to start each at bat, and then he ends up King on good pitches.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nicde to know I could help prove your argument

You’re right, he’s horrible with two strikes.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 24, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have stats on how often he gets ahead in the count?

At least for a while there it seemed like he was working the count nicely and always getting in 1-0, 2-0, and 2-1 counts.

by O'sFan21 on Jun 24, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me a minute, I have to do some of my own math

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I created a long post

But then realized that I made a slight mistake and would have had to start over with a ton of math in order to truly relay his lines.

I will say that Wieters’ line is considerably better than when even or ahead. I’ve been noticing for weeks now that Wieters ends up screwing himself by going after pitches very early in the count, either whiffing or fouling off a few balls, and then badly protecting when down in the count.

A bit more patience early in his ABs would go a very long way as pitchers would be forced to pound the zone more often.

This link tells the entire story and is definitely worth a look.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bottom line

Is that, cumulatively, Wieters is.152/.129/.281 with two strikes in 31 of his 65 total ABs.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Jun 24, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no game recap?

i turned it off after pie allowed that runner to score on the bad throw

by twistedlogic on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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