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Even though the call went against us, a few days ago I appreciated seeing Andino lose an out at second because his foot was planted 8 inches away from second base during an attempt to turn two.    Calling runners out when the pivot man does not touch 2nd base has never made sense to me.    The runner should be called safe.  A LOT.    Umps get ragged for missing every other call but this one, it seems.    Seeing it finally called right has made me watch closely again, and sure enough Andino slid his foot behind the bag and never touched it on the Alber's induced double play that saved Saturday night's game.   Later in the game, Mora makes a "force" at second on a shift play with his foot at least 4 inches off the bag.   Etc. Etc.

Maybe I'm also against calling the 'proximity play' because Tim McCarver is for it.   In "Baseball For Brain Surgeons" he defends umps calling 1-2 of every 100 times the pivot man misses the bag on grounds of protecting the safety of the infielder.   Yeah, if you put a guy out properly during a wipeout slide, you risk injury.   But so does the sliding player -- a knee to the face can undo your whole season.    So why isn't that a wash?   

What think you CCers?  Should outs be called carefully except when there is a double play involved? 

btw -- I learned this morning that "The simple fact is Tim McCarver is the best analyst in the history of the game."    John Feinstein "Play Ball."        I'm speechless.



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I agree.

A guys out, if and only if he’s out.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Jun 29, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I also agree

and I learned this morning that John Feinstein doesn’t know anything about baseball analysts.

"I’m sure glad he didn’t try to bunt." - DD on Melmo's game winning double, 6/17

by daveh873 on Jun 29, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Please explain

I’m a fan of John Feinstein’s.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 29, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps I should bother to read

the entire thing next time. Anyway, it still doesn’t affect what i think about Feinstein. There are few sports I’m more apathetic towards than College Basketball and Golf, but if I do choose to read about them, you better believe it’ll be John Feinstein, I’ll read.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 29, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a fan of Feinstein too

on the radio. This is the first time I’ve read any of his stuff. Ignoring a shockingly stupid half page extolling McCarver as an insightful and gutsy ‘first guesser,’ “Play Ball” is a decent read. In 1992 I was in grad school and didn’t have much time to follow baseball, so the book fills in some blanks for me.

Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Jun 29, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What radio program are you referring to

that you listen to John Feinstein?

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 29, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does sports commentary segments

for Weekend Edition on NPR.

Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Jun 29, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't judge Feinstein on his opinion of McCarver

Everyone gets one mulligan.

“A Good Walk Spoiled” is about as good as a golf book gets.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jun 29, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed that book

and I hate golf.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 29, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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