A's 9, O's 1: So many things wrong with this game

by Stacey on Jun 6, 2009 12:47 AM EDT in Post-Game Comment 26 comments

Jeremy Guthrie got knocked around in the first inning and gave up six runs in 2/3 of an inning. He was also hit by a ball on his hand/wrist/forearm area and I guess we'll hear later if that's going to affect him in the future. Today was Jeremy's 12th start of the season and he's just not looking any better than he did early in the season. Who knows what's going on with him this season, but it's getting very worrisome.

The Orioles offense was non-existent once again as they managed only five hits on the game. They've now scored only 6 runs on this road trip and it's getting very hard to watch. Nick Markakis is still as cold as ice and the rest of the team is following suit. The rest of the team, that is, other than Luke Scott. Luke continued his assault on the American League with another home run tonight. Since coming back from the disabled list, Luke is 12 for 31 with 8 home runs. That's in 9 games.

Here's the thing. I believe this is a good offense. I have no idea what's going on with them, but I do believe they're good and that they'll turn it around. Nick is going to start hitting again. So is Brian. Matt Wieters will hit eventually. I hope that all happens soon, because it's not fun to watch a team that is failing on so many levels.

The good news is that other than Jeremy Guthrie, the O's starting pitching has held up. David Hernandez didn't have a very good outing his last time out but he wasn't awful and he was the victim of poor defense. My fear is that the team will start hitting right around the pitching starts failing and we'll go through this cycle all year.

The other big news on the day is that Cesar Izturis needed to have an appendectomy today and is out indefinitely. Robert Andino filled in today and wowed us with three great plays at SS before air mailing a throw for an error. The Orioles will reevaluate Izturis' condition and if he's going to be out more than a few days they'll call someone up from AAA.

If you're looking for some good news on the evening, Brian Matusz had another great outing in Frederick tonight. He pitched 6 innings giving up 5 hits, 0 runs, and 0 walks. He struck out 5. He's now pitched 23 1/3 innings without allowing a run. I expect he'll be promoted to Bowie shortly.

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Who was today's Most Birdland Player (MBP)?

Luke Scott (Yet another home run)

127 votes

Robert Andino (3 web gems)

25 votes

No One (This team stinks!)

57 votes

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Another Stinker in the books....

Last nights game was pathetic to say the least. I think Guthrie was a “Flash” in the pan, and now we’re seeing the real “Guts” as everyone calls him, or “Gutless” as I like too say. I know that sounds rough, and maybe it is, maybe not, but I like everyone else on here love their O’s and it’s time for something to be done!! You all know how I feel on Dave “Trembles” Trembley, I think he stinks as a manager, good guy and all that, but NOT a MLB manager, period….. Anyway I hope the bleeding stops soon, and as far as everything else, well it’s only early June and this season is already in the crapper, good job Dave!!

by F4PhantomPhreak on Jun 6, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dude

Are you capable of making any comment that doesn’t involve trashing Dave Trembley? Don’t get me wrong, most of us have done our fair share of it lately, but it’s all you can talk about. Please, please, tell me ONE thing Dave Trembley could have done tonight to help this team win. Like it’s been said many times before, the manager can actively affect the outcome of only a handful of games per year. We saw that the other night in Seattle, but not last night.

It’s tiresome reading anything you write because you’re a broken record.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jun 6, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When you're down 6-0 after 2 outs in the 1st.....

Earl Weaver couldn’t have done much about that.

"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver

by duck on Jun 6, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

except...

wait for a couple three run home runs. gotta get guys on base for that, though, huh?

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 6, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And the way this team is hitting

Getting two guys on base colelctively might take multiple games….

"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver

by duck on Jun 6, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, not necessaily...

it’s keeping them on before a double steal or hit and run wipes one or both out.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 6, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

A 2 year flash in the pan?

That doesn’t make any sense. Guthrie had started all of 1 major league game prior to cracking the Orioles rotation. He posted an ERA+ of 125 in both seasons prior to this one. And anyone who’s watched him throw this year can tell something’s wrong.

None of which has anything to do with Dave Trembley. Also – good job blaming the manager for the W-L record on a rebuilding team. Cuz’ THAT makes sense.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Jun 6, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah good job Dave, way to throw a crappy 2/3 of an inning.

What up?

by snakethejake on Jun 6, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jesus

To say anything at all feels like kicking them when they’re down (although why I should get squeamish about that now is anybody’s guess).
So I’ll just say that they’re down. They’re really down. How can I laugh when I know they’re down?

Go get ’em tomorrow, etc.

"If you had Steve Trachsel's stuff, you wouldn't want to throw it either." -- Joe Angel

by Fear and Trembley on Jun 6, 2009 2:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh no, man

Italics are hard.

"If you had Steve Trachsel's stuff, you wouldn't want to throw it either." -- Joe Angel

by Fear and Trembley on Jun 6, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We suck right now.

by O'sFan21 on Jun 6, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

All you can do is hope for quality starts

and if you cant get them, well, YOU SUCK!!!
and fi you cant get them against the A’s well YOU REALLY SUCK!!!
EOM

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Jun 6, 2009 3:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's hard to be...

positive when you stay up late to watch this mess trounce around the diamond like a bunch of Jr. high players trying to impress little Suzie on the side lines but fails at each attempt, hey that was pretty good…. I know I come off a little rough on the guys on here, but man this isn’t looking any better than any of the previous seasons (bar the 1st half of the ‘05 season), how much more can I take of this lousy display??? Of course I will continue to support the O’s nothing will ever stop me from doing that, not even ol’ “Trembles” in the dugout trying to play MLB manager, hehehehehe….. Well here’s to todays game and hopefully we can squeak out a big “W” for all our sakes!!!!

by F4PhantomPhreak on Jun 6, 2009 5:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Again, the question is asked

EXACTLY what could Dave Trembley have done in this game to prevent a loss when Jeremy Guthire gives up 6 runs in the bottom of the first and the entire lineup, sans Luke Scott, is in a slump?

"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver

by duck on Jun 6, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're just cackling, man.

calm down.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jun 6, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that start was probably an anomoly

but even without it they lose 3-1 …….
young team holding its own at home and getting killed on road pretty much sums it up
no need to fire Trembley or run screaming into the streets.

I MISS KOJI

by thewaywardO on Jun 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

or an anomaly

I MISS KOJI

by thewaywardO on Jun 6, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On the plus side....

I went to bed before Trembley called for any hit and run plays.

"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver

by duck on Jun 6, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There was none of that

I’m pretty sure that he recognized a lost cause when he saw one. Besides, you can’t hit and run without base runners.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jun 6, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hendo looked OK

until he, you know, served up a 3 run bomb.

I MISS KOJI

by thewaywardO on Jun 6, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember...

One of my first few posts was about how I didn’t like Guts that much. I got completely hosed for the comment. I mean I hate to see any O struggle, but maybe Guts needs a break to figure whatever is going wrong with his mechanics.

I was glad to see at least my boy, Brian, come through with a good hitting day.

And seriously. I would definitely have Luke Scott’s man babies.

by Johnny_S on Jun 6, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Here's the thing

Guthrie looked lights out for most of the Detroit game, just last week, with 10Ks.

Schmuck seems to think it’s confidence. That sounds like a cop-out. Guthrie’s thrown good strikes before, now he’s throwing bad ones. He should be able to see he’s got 4 other pretty good guys in the rotation, and he doesn’t have to be THE man anymore. Just go throw your game. And it’s not like the division’s on the line. We’re in 5th. What the hell would he be worried about?

I don’t know enough about mechanics to know if his arm slot is wrong or his release point is off or if he’s carrying his elbow too high or too low or any of that stuff. I just know this is a pitcher who, not one week ago, struck out 10 against one of the best lineups the AL has to offer, and last night couldn’t get anyone out in the worst lineup the AL has. He’s been good for most of 2 seasons previous to this. This season, he’s looked really bad in half his starts.

WTF?

"I don't have a hit-and-run sign, and I believe it's the worst play in baseball." - Earl Weaver

by duck on Jun 6, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

He looked good in the one game, but we need lightning to strike more than once, especially when our offense is in complete disarray. Maybe it is the confidence. Maybe after getting shelled in the WBC it affected him more than we are aware. No one can know for sure but him. To me, it looks as if he has changed his release a bit or something and hes not hitting his spots efficiently. I dunno, it all remains to be seen. However, how long do we keep in a pitcher who is struggling to find his pitch with an ERA approaching 6?

by Johnny_S on Jun 6, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well...

considering that 5 of his 12 starts have been actual quality starts and one was an 8 inning outing in which he allowed 4 er, i’d say there’s not a huge cause for concern on the whole. it’d be swell if he could maintain the level established in the last two years, but you can’t honestly say he’s been a total failure this year.

…i mean, you can, but that’s kind of crazy.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Jun 6, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never said that

I never said he was a complete failure. I just said I am not a fan of his, and I’d rather not have our number 1 in our rotation with a 5.68 ERA. I like anyone, would like to see him turn it around. But is watching him give up 7 hits, 6 runs, 1 HR in the first inning the way to do it? Maybe if he has another bad start he should take 1 or 2 start hiatus and fix his head, mechanics, or whatever it is he is struggling with.

by Johnny_S on Jun 6, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guthrie’s problem is there isn’t much varation on his pitches.All on the same plane and same speed.Hitters are just sitting on balls in a certian zone. From what I saw his pitches were up last night. But let’s face it,maybe Guts has pitched over his head since we got him and he’s always given up inoppurtune homers. They need to trade him at the deadline for a 1st or 3rd base good prospect even if we have to add somebody.I’d like to weasel Hoffpuir out of the Cubs for example or the guy behind AGon with the padres.

by TheThumper on Jun 6, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs