Yankees 2, Orioles 1: Losers find a way to lose.
Frustrating. It's the only word I can think of after a game like this. David Hernandez pitched an amazing game, Mark Hendrickson followed with a perfect inning, and Jim Johnson a perfect inning after that. For the first 8 innings of the game the Yankees could only manage 3 hits off of the Orioles pitching staff. They added a fourth hit in the bottom of the 9th, a HR by Hideki Matsui.
Hernandez started off the game a little rocky, but considering he is a 24 year old with 6 major league starts who was making his first ever start in Yankee Stadium, I'm certainly willing to cut him some slack. He allowed two hits and a walk in the first but didn't allow a run. In the 2nd he gave up his third hit, a home run to Eric Hinske. That would be the last hit the Yankees would get until the 9th inning.
The Yankees lead the MLB with runs scored per game at 5.54. For the Orioles to hold them to two, even if that second one came in the form of a walk off, is impressive. For a rookie pitcher to give up only 1 run over 6 innings is definitely a positive we can take from this game.
That is the end of the positives. After a first inning Nick Markakis home run, the Orioles were unable to score any more runs despite having numerous opportunities. And here they are:
- Third inning: Matt Wieters led off the inning with a single and advanced on a wild pitch with zero outs. Cesar Izturis and Brian Roberts struck out and Markakis flew out to right field, stranding Wieters.
- Fifth inning: With one out, Nolan Reimold walked and Matt Wieters singled him to third. Izturis struck out and Brian Roberts flew out to center to strand them both.
- Sixth inning: Adam Jones hit an infield single with one out. Aubrey Huff grounded into a double play on the first pitch he saw.
- Seventh inning: Melvin Mora led off with a single. Luke Scott struck out and Reimold GIDP.
- Eighth inning: With one out, Izturis singled to left. Roberts doubled down the right field line but Izturis, thinking the ball was caught, started to go back to first and ended up between first and second at the same time as Brian. He got the gist and ended up on third but probably could have scored if he looked at the 3B coach. Markakis then swung at the first pitch and hit a grounder to Teixeira, who threw Izturis out at home. With Adam Jones at the plate, Phil Coke threw a wild pitch. Roberts raced home from third but in trying to avoid the tag with his headfirst slide missed the plate altogether and was tagged out by Coke.
- Ninth inning: Adam Jones led off the inning and was hit by the pitch on his foot. After Huff lined out, Jones stole second. Mora flew out to centerfield. Luke was intentionally walked. Nolan Reimold flew out to left.
That's a lot of chances, right? And they couldn't score one more run. Frustrating. This loss is on the offense, because the pitching did its job. I suppose you could assign some blame to Jim Johnson, but if the Orioles had scored even one more run he wouldn't have pitched the 9th inning, and he hardly ever pitches more than one inning. No, this one is on the offense.
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I was at my girlfriends softball playoff game
I wasnt too worried as I figured we’d lose anyway. Her team won and is going to the championships. However, as soon as I got in the car I heard the score and Matsui came up to bat. Then I had to hear John Sterling call his walk off HR. It sucked sooo much worse then I thought it would.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
by daveh873 on Jul 20, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lame
I took in my first game at the new stadium. It was a last minute decision to go, so I didn’t have any O’s gear on, but I made my allegiances known regardless.
I knew they were going to squander and lose after the misadventures of the 8th inning, but that didn’t make it any less painful.
by dkdc on Jul 20, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, you were able
to get a second mortgage on your condo to buy tickets that fast????
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by duck on Jul 20, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stubhub
I got them for $20/each, which is $10 below face. They were a mile up, but right behind home plate.
by dkdc on Jul 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are my favorite cheap seats
Saw my one game at the bedpan from there.
"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver
by CoachOfEarl on Jul 21, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game too, just got back.
Watching that walk off sail over my head sucked.
by kba26 on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in Harrisburg, PA watching the Baysox play the Senators
They kept showing the score and a couple of O’s fans near me kept saying we would lose because it was evident the pitchers were doing their jobs and the hitters were finding ways to make outs and not drive in runs. After reading Stacy’s commentary they were correct. The O’s find ways to lose.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 20, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is having an orgasm over the walk off and Texiera's throw to the plate
This is sickening. John Kruk is totally in hero worship for the MFY and Mark Texiera. They have shown the walk off 3 times in 15 minutes.
I hate them
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 21, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't get why they keep talking about that play.
I thought it was pretty routine. Tex didn’t make a particularly good throw – there was just plenty of time for Molina to go get it and come back and make the tag.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, it was a pretty good play, not WG worthy, although I'm sure it'll be in there
He was throwing off balance wrong footed, if had waited a half-step to make a good throw izzy might have made it. What is dumb is the O’s were 2-1 underdogs and still almost came away with the W (thank god for the RL).
by wishEYEhadCRABS on Jul 21, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was his fault that he threw off balance off the wrong foot.
He very easily could have set his feet and throw properly – he chose to make the throw on the run like that.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter taught him that one
"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver
by CoachOfEarl on Jul 21, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kate Hudson was there.....
thats right, shes just another notch in A-Roids bedpost, but they ARE NOT dating.
"You don't EVEN KNOW who Nick Markakis is"- .....My 4 year old daughter to another kid.
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by O's21girl on Jul 21, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His fault?
It’s not like he had all the time in the world, sometimes you don’t have time to set your feet and throw, it’s a trade you need to make, it’s all hindsight 20/20, if he had thrown it by molina you’d hear the MFY guys wondering why he didn’t take his time, IMHO it didn’t look like he had that much time. Why bother harping on whether or not he made a good D play and keep bringing up how mediocre his offense has been over the last month.
by wishEYEhadCRABS on Jul 21, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why bother harping on whether or not he made a good D play?
Because ESPN was acting like it was some sort of special play and it clearly wasn’t. That’s why.
And as far as whether he had much time or not what does that matter? It took him longer to get the ball to Molina by throwing weakly on the run than if he had set his feet and fired.
It was about as routine as it gets for a 3—1 putout.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd guess no
and I’d bet dollars to donuts that most 3-1 putouts are on force plays
by wishEYEhadCRABS on Jul 21, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares if most of them are?
It’s not a particularly uncommon play. How is it any different from a ground ball with the infield in where the runner on third goes? It’s what’s expected of him. The fact that he chose to throw off balance and on the run does not make it a more difficult or unique play.
bottom line – it was nothing to write home about our make any kind of note about
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was very routine
Izturis should’ve been out by several steps but Tex’s throw was so bad that it made it look close.
It’s the old “screw up the play so much that you look like a star when it’s close” play.
Just like the groundball that Tex booted earlier in the game that Cano rescued. The crowd loved that one.
by dkdc on Jul 21, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm missing something...
but with one out and runners on second and third, wouldn’t it have made more sense for Izturis to stay at third on a little grounder to the first baseman? Markakis gets thrown out, but you’ve still got two runners in scoring position. And who knows, if he could have goaded Texiera into at least hesitating for a second before going to first, maybe Markakis could have made it. (I didn’t see the play, so I don’t know). I mean, Izturis wasn’t forced…..
by NewYorkOriole on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's true that he didn't have to go...
But I think they probably had the play set from the beginning to go if the ball was on the ground no matter what.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Again, I didn’t SEE the play, thanks to those wonderful MLB blackout rules. Guess what, MLB.com, I don’t have cable and the stations around here only occasionally play Yankee games. What am I supposed to do?
by NewYorkOriole on Jul 21, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Shitske is the MFY RF now?!?
What, Shelley Duncan wasn’t cutting it?
I was all cracked out watching Trailer Park Boys, with a mild case of the flu or something, so i missed it.
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by CoachOfEarl on Jul 21, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was tempted to vote for any of the selections for MBP
but i had to go with nobody. this is a game we should have won especially after our rookie who has started all of what, 5 games? throws 6 fantastic innings. oh and missing the plate on a slide really pisses me off. good thing i didnt see when that happened or i’d want to break shit.
by twistedlogic on Jul 21, 2009 6:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why did you vote for no one then?
especially after our rookie who has started all of what, 5 games? throws 6 fantastic innings
Give Hernandez the respect he deserves. He pitched a fantastic outing and put the team in a prime position to win. He did everything he could to win, and the offense choked with runners in scoring positions with no or 1 out on multiple occasions.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Dude was outstanding, made the Yerks look pathetic and absolutely should have won if our O had been just a tiny bit less sorry. I really don’t get a vote for no one.
by fishoutawata on Jul 21, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cuz we didnt win
losing is not birdland in any way, shape, or form
by twistedlogic on Jul 21, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? Are you kidding?
So because it’s a loss, that means no Birdland existed inside? If we had won, you would have voted David? He pitched one heck of a game, and the outcome wasn’t his problem. Loss or not, he was Birdland. I don’t get what you’re saying.
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by LenaO on Jul 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't make any sense.
He cannot play both sides of the ball. He has no control on how many runs the team scored. So if he had the line 9 IP 1ER 0BB 27K and we lost 1-0, he isn’t Birdland? That’s ridiculous.
Baseball is rarely every won on one guy’s shoulders. So individual players can have great games within a loss. They cannot do everything. That is crazy talk.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Yanks
but you have to admit they played a good game. Pettitte pitched well as he always does against us, and the plays at the plate in the 8th were well executed by the Yanks. We had a couple of chances to score but didn’t. It was a good game all around…except for the final score.
by JerseyO'sFan on Jul 21, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont have to admit anything
ESPECIALLY not living near this many Yankees fans. You of all people should know that.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
by daveh873 on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah what are you talking about?
The first play at the plate was totally routine.
The second one Roberts was on third base with his thumb up his ass not ready to score on a WP, so it was easy.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a shitty ending
After a great performance by Hernandez. The offense was playing like shit once they got a player in scoring position. Lots of shitty ABs, especially with runners in scoring position. All I could do was yell the F word after ugly Matsui hit that ball. Neither my mother or my gf on the phone approved of my word choice.
Fuck.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree with the write up saying Roberts “raced” home. When they showed the replay from the angle that looked down the third base line, Roberts had a major hesitation. He actually broke back to the third base bag at first before seeing Jones wave him in. You’re one of the fastest players on this team… how do you not break home as soon as you see that ball get away? What a frustrating game.
by jvoelks on Jul 21, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see that replay angle
I will say that when the a pitcher throws a wild pitch you can’t just immediately make for home. You have to make sure it’s going to get far enough away first.
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by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I was watching on the YES network because of where I live the MASN feed is blocked out on the package when we play the Yanks. So maybe they didn’t show it on MASN. I agree you don’t break home immediately… you freeze. BRob did not freeze. He took two shuffle steps back to third. He would have scored had he not hesitated.
by jvoelks on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and by no way am I saying I hate Roberts… get rid of him… blah blah blah. That is crazy talk. I love BRob but he made a mistake last night.
by jvoelks on Jul 21, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did the opposite of what you're taught to do.
When you’re on third as the pitcher delivers the ball you shuffle towards the plate and end up with your weight on your right foot leaning in towards the plate to watch a potential wild pitch closely. For some reason he was going back to the base. Thumb firmly up ass.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did they show that replay on MASN?
If they did I didn’t notice it, but I don’t always pay that close attention. The only replay I can recall is the one of Adam motioning Brian towards the plate and then his slide. Yeah, if he did it wrong, it was wrong. I just didn’t see that part.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I saw the replay on MASN
But I think it was much later after the end of the game – I tend to watch until they stop talking about it because I"m a glutton for punishment.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to say, but it's par for the BRob course this season
Ever since he got the big contract, he has been distracted and off his game. If we had a decent prospect there, I would shop him now.
by fishoutawata on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh what?
He is still one of the best lead-off hitters in the MLB. I am not ready to get rid of him because he missed the bag on a slide…
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nor would I--not because of a slide
but this isn’t isolated. Also, as much as I keep hearing the mantra of “one of the best leadoff hitters”, I just don’t see it any more. I don’t see the BBs or SBs, the run manufacturing, and defensively he isn’t quite the same either. He is still a pretty good hitter and a doubles machine, but we need a sparkplug, and he hadn’t been that.
Remember. people, that a year ago it was pretty much gospel that B-Rob was going to be traded. What has changed that now makes that crazy talk?
by fishoutawata on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm not the biggest proponent of "facts"
but, geez, look at his OPS and his doubles as a lead-off man and give me 5 names you’d rather see up there. I’m not sure you can.
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by duck on Jul 21, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
He is 4th in the entire league in runs. 1st in doubles. Top 15 in steals. Top 30 in hits. What more can you ask for from a lead-off guy? I guess he has to be top 5 for everything for you to think he should stay on the team.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I think talking about trading BRobs back then was crazy talk.
And it is now.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the other day
In the first inning, Brian Roberts singled, stole second, moved to third on an error, and scored on a wild pitch. How’s that for manufacturing runs? And besides that, he’s 4th in the majors in runs scored. 4th in the majors on a last place team. The three guys ahead of him (Pujols, Pedroia, Figgins) are all on first place teams.
Brian had been slumping a bit before the AS break but so had a lot of the team. Every player goes through lulls, his numbers will be there in the end.
Brian Roberts leads the majors in doubles. So he hasn’t stolen a million bases? Doubles are better than a single and a SB. Oh by the way, he has the most SB of any 2B in baseball with 19, and he’s stealing at an 80% success rate. He even said himself he didn’t need to steal in the beginning of the year because Nick and Adam were so hot at the plate that it wasn’t necessary.
If you’re going to talk shit, look up some stats.
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by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You make statistics sound better than I can.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's really good at that.
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by duck on Jul 21, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but you're faster than me
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by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you're crazy.
Replace him with a prospect??? Nonsense.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which prospect?
Where?
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by Brotz13 on Jul 21, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what has changed to make that crazy talk?
alot of people didnt think b-rob would resign, so trading him instead of losing him to free agency made ALOT more sense back then.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
by daveh873 on Jul 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget he got married also.
HAHA! Just kidding everyone. I could not resist.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 21, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had his thumb up his ass. That's why.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Watch the Replay on Orioles.com
Sure, it was a bone-headed play, but it wasn’t as stupid as you think. He didn’t miss the plate, he actually dragged his foot across while dodging the tag. It was a lot closer than anyone here seems to think. When he saw his hand would get tagged, he feinted twice and then went thee other way while swiping his foot. A better break, and none of this matters. But he didn’t have a better break, and still made it a bang-bang play, and he quite possibly might have been safe.
If you watch the video, wait for the very last replays where they give the overhead view, and the view from center field.
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by oriolesfan151 on Jul 21, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't saying anything about his slide.
I was saying it was stupid/sleepy of him to be going back to the base on a pitch in the dirt – he should have been shuffling towards homeplate and on a dead sprint as soon as he saw it squirt away. Instead, inexplicably, he was on his way back to the base as the pitch bounced. That’s what cost him the critical time between making it a close play where he had to try to avoid a tag and an easy play where he slides in normally.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Four games since the break
lose 12-8: Lose while scoring 8 runs. I think it was 7 runs given up via BB and HBP
lose 4-3: Give up 2 unearned runs in a tight game.
win 10-2: Bats come alive and some good pitching
lose 2-1: More base running blunders in a tight game
Seems to me the O’s are turning winnable games into losses, even with the crappy pitching. I don’t know whether that’s good to see, or if they’ll eventually just give up and start thinking about their fall vacation plans. Losers find a way to lose.
by drj on Jul 21, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that the difference between a good team and us?
Good teams do not lose those close games or regularly lose because of unearned runs and bad base running. We do.
by Johnny_S on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we assign some blame to Juan Samuel?
As lousy as our baserunning is, I don’t know how this clown doesn’t receive more scrutiny. When you see Melmo get nailed by a yard at the plate (as has often happened), that’s on him. Last night, Reimold and Izzy both lost track of the ball on the basepaths and missed scoring opportunities. Either they’ve learned to tune Samuel out, or he was doing a poor job of getting their attention and giving them the right cues. I’d say the same on the wild pitch – if Roberts broke back to third, it’s HIS job to yell, “GO!”. I really can’t stand the guy, and I’m just wondering if anyone else thinks he’s a piss-poor 3B coach or if I’m crazy and biased here.
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by Brotz13 on Jul 21, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's piss poor
Is that why Izzy didn’t pick him up when going to 2nd? Who knows? I’d think he should still be looking to him.
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by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
According to Wikipedia (I know, I know), he named his son Samuel. The man should be in PRISON if that’s true.
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by Brotz13 on Jul 21, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHUT UP
Samuel Samuel?
That’s awful. I went to high school with a kid named Thomas Thomas. We called him Tommy, but still. Don’t do that!
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be bad, but the players should be picking him up not looking at the ball.
As far as Roberts breaking back to third, that sort of thing happens so fast that there’s nothing a third base coach can do. By the time he says something it’s too late and Roberts has already lost the crucial fraction of a second he needed to be safe.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The entire O's team needs an attitude change.
We get that next season as we upgrade our pitching staff, find a new 3rd baseman, say goodbye to streaky Huff, dependable Izturis, Sweet Swinging Lou Montanez (no one is better than Pie) and of course Trembley and his entire coaching staff. It is time to turn the corner for 2010. O’s fans deserve better and it is coming.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 21, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't we have Izturis for next year too?
Or are you assuming a trade?
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And....who would be filling those spots?
It’s fine and great to yell “Fire da bums!” but you better have better bums to replace them.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Jul 21, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you just say Pie is better than Montanez?!
Arent you the A #1 supporter of Lou?! Wasnt that how you burst onto the camden chat scene!? Crazy!
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
by daveh873 on Jul 21, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm in regards to Pie. Never doubt my support for Montanez
I am a huge fan of Sweet Swinging Lou. And in regards to "bursting onto the Chat I just applied and you accepted and I have enjoyed some of the best and worst baseball minds on the net ever since LOL.
I am saying Mora will not be our 3rd baseman in 2010. Anyone disagree? I am saying Huff will be a FA and has not put up the numbers this season to attract the attention we need to get a good player in return. We should cut ties. Anyone disagree? We could have izturis next season however the I like Andino. Plus Blake Davis is knocking on the door at AAA. We could move Izzy since he is under contract and work that into a deal.
Finally Dave Trembley. Sometimes a change of scenery, concept, program, attitude just may be what the doctor ordered. I would be more interested in a new batting coach with a new approach (especially with two outs and men in scoring position).
I am done. Now have at me.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 21, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou Montanez is a mediocre AA player who got lucky last year.
He sucks.
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by getxstoked on Jul 21, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DEAL WITH IT
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
by Stacey on Jul 21, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most frustrating loss yet
I think this might be the most frustrating loss of the season so far (even worse that the 5 run lead we blew to the RS). There’s just no excuse for such totally crappy play. This is the kind of game that makes me think, despite whatever positive signs we’re seeing and the good moves MacPhail has made, that there is still simply a LOSING CULTURE within the organization that will continue to hold us back.
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by rebop on Jul 21, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that White Sox loss with Bergey on the mound was way more frustrating.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember you being displeased... :)
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Jul 21, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess in hindsight it may have been unfounded.
But I was very frustrated nonetheless.
by O'sFan21 on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A game against the Yankees trumps any other frustrating game
in my opinion, because I loathe the MFY with a great passion, “rivalry” game, ESPN hype-up if Yanks win, etc. Shit like this makes me go berserk
by Timmy L. on Jul 21, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, the loss July 1 was way worse than this.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Jul 21, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
it’s just because the frustrating losses are piling up. I believe in MacPhail, I really do, but seeing play like this is extremely discouraging. The Oriole teams I grew up with were so strong on fundamentals (okay this was a looong time ago now), I just hate to see such poor play.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
by rebop on Jul 21, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank Bauer and Earl Weaver had a lot to do with the Orioles of the past
In those days you had Schoendist, O’Mally, Dick Williams, Billy Martin, Casey Stengel Sparky Anderson and many I am forgetting that would not let the rats run the ship. If you don’t play the game by the book you sat or found another occupation. Today we have “players” managers. Managers that don’t have the power to sit a Manny Ramirez, Albert Pujols, or Soriano (examples only) when they don’t hustle or put the team first.
Some catering should be thrown over. Some phones thrown, some yelling, some get in your face, some watching a few games from the bench and let’s see what happens.
Remember the old Orioles? Then remember Hank Bauer and Earl Weaver. This is not hard.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 21, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot Walter Alston. Quiet but you better play the game right.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Jul 21, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I am gonna get it for this but...
awhile back on CC we were suggested a manager of that nature

just kidding had to do it
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
by Graham71681 on Jul 22, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs















