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Some things to ponder and discuss on a day with no Orioles baseball to distract us:

Trade Rumors!

MLBTradeRumors.com reports the following regarding the Orioles:

  • Jhoulys Chacin, a top pitching prospect for the Rockies, was pulled from his start yesterday. Speculation is he could be involved in a deal for any number of relievers, including Danys Baez and George Sherrill (more details in Dr. Orpheus' Fan Post).
  • Ken Rosenthal says the Angels are targeting Sherrill and Cleveland's Rafael Betancourt. He doesn't think the Orioles are interested in trading Huff or Scott. And speculates Hendo may be on the block, though not for the Angels.
  • But George Sherrill doesn't want to be traded! He likes it here! (Sun)
  • It will probably be at least a month before Miguel Sano signs, but the Orioles are still interested. (MASN)

Around the BlogOsphere:

  • Around the Harbor takes a look at the inconsistency of the Orioles offense.
  • Dempsey's Army does some math to figure the trade value of the Orioles' spare parts. 
  • Contribute to The Wayward Oriole's caption contest for a picture of Luke and Amber. Also, if you enjoyed the rhyming game thread awhile back, scroll down and check out his rhyming all star game updates. 
  • Camden Crazies plays a game of WAR and determines that Albert Pujols is more valuable than the entire Orioles infield, Matt Kemp is more valuable than the entire Orioles outfield, and Zack Greinke is more valuable than the entire Orioles rotation. Depressing. 

And finally, a stat to think about...

A pretty simple way to see how good a team is going is their run differential. Score more runs than you allow and you'll win more (generally speaking).  So far this year the Orioles have scored 436 runs and allowed 498 runs. That's an average of 4.64 runs scored per game and 5.30 runs allowed per game, a difference of  -0.66 runs per game, and the only negative run differential in the American League East. For reference, the Red Sox have a run differential of 0.83, the Yankees' is 0.72, the Rays' is 0.86, and the Blue Jays' is 0.35. To be in league with the conteders of the AL East the Orioles need to increase their differential by over 1 run.

It's been mentioned around here that even when the pitching gets here, it's possible the the offense won't be good enough to make up the difference. So what do you think? When Rich Hill and Jason Berken are replaced by Chris Tillman and Jake Arrieta/Brian Matusz, will that do it? How about the hopeful increase in production by Matt Wieters and Nolan Reimold to go along with Adam Jones, Nick Markakis, Brian Roberts, and Luke Scott? What about the black holes that are first and third base? Who can fill those spots in 2010?

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Run Diff

Run Differential can be better summed up by the team’s pythagorean record, of which the O’s are 41-52, and their actual record is….. 41-52. Which means the O’s are playing exactly at the level that they should be, they are neither lucky or unlucky. Not a perfect stat, but it shows a team’s true level of performance with runs scored and runs allowed as a basis (think Seattle of 2007 and how they predictably crashed and burned in 2008).

by UMterp08 on Jul 23, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right, it's more of a "stat at a glance"

I know the Diamondbacks got into the playoffs with a negative run differential a few years ago, but that’s super rare.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woooo!

Still haven’t heard anything about Chacin.
I want Ian Steart. His BA is low, but 17 HR in 256 ABs with .500 SLG. is infinitely better than Mora’s 3 HR in 259 ABs with .344 SLG.

by Dr Orpheus on Jul 23, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stewart can play 2b too!

trade brian roberts! /snark

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

I dont think the O’s have nowhere near have enough tradeable properties to get Ian Stewart

by UMterp08 on Jul 23, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

most confusing sentence ever

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 23, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Jul 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Chacin is in a deal

Centered around Baez and Sherrill, then the Rockies GM’s job is not safe.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait, it Bavasi in Denver?

n/t

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Jul 23, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The corners of the infield are the immediate problem to address for 2010

The second problem is getting some new direction from the field management. Our hitters can not continue to be so inconsistent. On paper we are to good to be that bad at the plate.

Our pitching will be our strong point going forward. But we need to win some 12-9 games just like we need to win 3-2 games.

Why trade Sherrill when we don’t have a replacement? Do we have a power arm that can come in and get 3 outs in the 9th? How can you rebuild when you trade your closer and not have an upgrade? I am not saying Sherrill is untradeable but who will close?

I have no clue about this young pitcher Chacin but my thoughts are you never have enough pitching.

"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer

by Baysox39 on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we could give them baez instead id be much happier

if sherrill goes, then we only have one lefty (hendo) on the entire staff plus one lefty batting practice arm (hill)

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill is a batting practice arm?

I don’t know about you, but if I’m taking BP, I don’t want the pitcher throwing over my head or behind me.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 23, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahah

thats true. i guess he walks more guys than he gives up hits to

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chacin

Is the rockies current top prospect. He was #46 on BA’s top 100 list last year. Gets a lot of groundballs and is doing work in AA at age 21. So dont worry, Sherrill was not traded for him because teams dont trade their best prospect for bullpen help.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think you're right

however, we may get some kind of haul, per heyman in SI:

Sherrill would be a “real overpay,” one GM said, and you can’t blame Baltimore for that in this barren relief market. Both the Angels and Dodgers make sense for him.

June 30, 2009 — Birdland Day

by zknower on Jul 23, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would not put it past AM i guess

I didn’t think we could get a package like we did for Bedard, but AM pulls it off sometimes. Although what he really does a good job doing is finding the sneaky value guys. Luke Scott, George Sherrill, and Tillman all qualify as sneaky value guys.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely forgot

Sickels just did a write up on Chacin.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/7/21/956753/double-a-transition-monitor

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have a lot of potential replacements

I like JJ in the 9th, although he’s been having a rough year. Ray has had an even rougher career, but I’m still listing him as a long term option. Other options are Mickolio and McCrory.

Chacin is a top prospect, see the Sickels link below. A fair trade might be Baez and Sherrill for Chacin, but I wouldn’t do that, and it looks like Chacin is getting called up anyway.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McCrory?

Ugh! Are you just naming guys that throw hard? That’s not the be all and end all to being a closer.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Potential being the key word

I’m betting that one of the four could fill the spot, not trying to say that any or all of them are better right now.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you OK with JJ?

Anyone you actually like on the list? If so, we can totally forget about him.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah the rest was fine.

although Kam needs to get his control much better before he could do it

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

The “closer intangibles” are overrated. We took a a decent situational setup man and turned him into a very good closer. We have plenty of arms to try out in that role, on the big club and at Norfolk.

by DempseysArmy on Jul 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What aboot W. Perez?

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Jul 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On paper we are to good to be that bad at the plate.

Really?

Jones/Markakis/Roberts are proven commodities, but beyond those three, you have regulars of Huff, Wigginton/Mora, Andino/Izturis, and Wieters.

We had this idea that the “big three” would exceed expectations as usual, and Huff/Mora would repeat last year to complement the rise of Scott/Reimold/Wieters. As it turned out, Mora/Huff are hitting well below their career averages, which isn’t especially surprising, Reimold/Wieters are still learning, and Andino/Izturis/Wigginton just aren’t that good.

"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer

by Baltimo on Jul 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In his defense

thats kinda the definition of being good “on paper”. After last year, Huff and Mora looked good in the lineup, and Wieters was thought to be infalable.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess so

But the decline of Huff/Mora was easily predictable, and Reimold/Scott not being impact players was pretty foreseeable in April. That being said, Scott has pleasantly surprised.

"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer

by Baltimo on Jul 24, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like your off day randomness...

It makes me cry.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Jul 23, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there, there dayzd

June 30, 2009 — Birdland Day

by zknower on Jul 23, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahah

epic post

The O's will contend in 2010

by O's n Natty Bohs on Jul 23, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jhoulys Chacin

If he is available for any of our relievers, I would do a deal today; but I don’t know why Colorado would make this deal.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 23, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think what Wieters and Reimold turn into will determine the answer to your question at the end.

If the pitchers (or some combination of them) pan out and we have a good solid rotation, and Wieters and Reimold and Jones and Markakis can all be 20-30 HR guys and all flirt with 100 RBIs then I think we’ll be fine. But if Reimold turns out to be a .260 guy with 15 HRs and Wieters turns out to be a .280 guy with 20 HRs, then we’ll need some serious help. I think either way having productive first and third baseman is going to be essential. But if Wieters and Reimold turn out to be as good as we’re hoping they won’t need to be as top tier if not.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing

That is encouraging is that our payroll will be much lower next year. The list of names that comes off the books at the end of this year is crazy and I included what we are paying them this year (here is the link i got this from, http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/baltimore-orioles_112321768568552760.html):
Jay Gibbons – $6,500,000
Jamie Walker – $4,500,000
Ramon Hernandez – $2,000,000
Ryan Freel – $4,000,000
Mora – $9,000,000
Huff – $8,000,000
Baez – $5,500,000

I guess my point is, if we want another bat the money will be there to sign one. Although I dont think there are any players worth getting in free agency this year (maybe Chone Figgins).

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

linky no work

because of the close parens at the end.

but this one should.

June 30, 2009 — Birdland Day

by zknower on Jul 23, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

sometimes I guess this new fangled technology is too much for me

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of that $17M from the corners will have to go back into the corners

and some of the rest should prob go into the Wieters Arbitration Fund.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention Jones

Although those are good commitments to have.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Those numbers are just nuts!

by fishoutawata on Jul 23, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy MacPhail hasn't really been one to spend even when handed the resources

But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer

by Baltimo on Jul 24, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you should have saved this for a game day

We might need something to distract us from Orioles baseball. Heh!

Shockingly enough, I agree with Baysox39 on the two big problems. Corner infield isn’t getting it done and I think there needs to be some coach shuffling.

He’s kind of an easy target, but I think Crowley needs to be ushered into retirement. I don’t think his aggressive philosophy is serving the team well, generally speaking. There are just way too many first pitch hacks, especially first pitch hack GIDPs against bad pitchers who have been walking guys. We don’t do a good job of working the count against good pitchers to get up their pitch count, either. There are one-game offensive explosions but then it seems like we go cold for such long stretches at a time, utterly unable to bring home runners in scoring position.

We’ve seen some flashes of brilliance from all of these guys so it’s really frustrating to see the cold streaks. I understand that baseball is a game of inherent streakiness but it just seems like good teams don’t have entire lineups go cold for so long, and bad teams do, and at some point you need to examine the coaching as well as the talent.

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Jul 23, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you won't find disagreement at CC

about retiring Terry Crowley.

The majority of folks here have long supported this. The lack of patience by our guys, especially in the later innings, is one of the worst things about the Orioles.

June 30, 2009 — Birdland Day

by zknower on Jul 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just felt like sharing

I ’m good friends with Camden Crazies.
Got a chance meet him for Matt Wieters Facts night.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers." - Earl Weaver

"The only thing Earl knows about big-league pitching is that he couldn't hit it." - Jim Palmer

"Ain't the beer cold!?!" - Chuck Thompson

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 23, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our offense

I think the lineup, as presently constituted, is probably good enough to at least cover half a run more per game. Here’s the thing (and you might all hate me for this)… I think they arent as good as they can be because the team is just not good. The season is over already. They know they arent playing for anything. I believe in my heart and in my head that they want to win every game, but they are human. Some might be trying to do it all themselves, some might just feel defeated and be going through the motions. Honestly, with just the pitching upgrade I think this team can be at a Blue Jay level next year and if we can inject some kind of life into the corners then I think we’re really talking. I dont see Wieters falling shorter than an Kakes kind of offensive player (.300, 20-25 hr’s a year) and even that would be phenominal from a catcher honestly. AJ has really shown flashes of being something REALLY special, and who knows with Reimold. If we can get a couple of real bats at the corners, I think this team will be in a position to contend as early as next year. Maybe not make the playoffs, but contend. However, those corner spots just arent out there right now. I’d be happy with a Figgins, but who’s to say he doesnt get resigned? Maybe we need to make a trade for one or both of the corners. Maybe we have to dip into the pitching. Who knows?

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 23, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Figgins

I dont think he will be resigned, Brandon Wood can step in for him for cheap. It will be about time that Wood gets a shot as well.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that too

I just dont know if they are ready to trust Wood with the job full time. They are contenders every year. They might not want to take that chance.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, about Chacin

Not gonna happen. He was pulled so he could go to the big club
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9843206/Source:-Chacin-jumping-from-Class-AA-to-Rockies

It was a nice thought tho…

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The comments

I also found it funny that “rockiessuperfan” had no idea who Chacin is. Maybe its time for a new screen name buddy…

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 23, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess his superness is limited to the 25 man roster

Trading Chacin for a setup man would be insane.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or his super-fan-ness is limited to October 2007

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 23, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excuse me...that should be "Rocktober" 2007

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 23, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahahaha

excellent.

June 30, 2009 — Birdland Day

by zknower on Jul 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arbitration and trades

I’m not interested in trading Luke or Huff. The only thing that makes sense is to offer arbitration. If Huff declines, we get draft picks. Luke is under team control.

Reverse engineered, unofficial guesses at Elias rankings here They say Huff is a type A, which will get us a first round pick from the team that does sign him, plus a sandwich pick.

BTW Breezy is a high B type and Baez is on the cusp of being a B, and could rise given a solid second half, given that he sat out last year. I would trade them both, with the concept of the less games we save this year, the better draft picks we get next year. We have so much pitching on the way that we can stock the rotation and the bullpen. And hopefully we get help at the infield corners and/or pitching in return.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't the problem with Huff

that we have to offer arbitration and the common belief that if we offer arbitration it will be more than he’ll be able to get as a free agent (unless he has a monster rest of the season), in which case he would accept and we’ll be stuck with an over market/under performing first basemen?

I mean I like Huff generally and he was awesome last year, but he’s not getting it done this year and I certainly don’t want to pay him more than he’s worth.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't have to offer arb to Huff

He’s a FA and we could non tender him at the end of the season, gaining nothing. Huff won’t be cheap, look to pay him $10M in arb or so. It’s a better solution than signing him to a longer contract in terms of risk. Arb means that next year is a contract year, so Huff has the motivation to perform.

I agree he needs to get with the hitting, but keep in mind DD insists on batting Mora behind him all the damn time. He needs to put Reimold there to give him some protection.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we want the draft picks we do

if we non-tender him, he becomes a standard FA. if we offer arb, he’ll become a type-A. I’d probably take my chances and offer him arb. If he accepts, then oh well. Hope he has a good season and deal him at the deadline next year. That actually wouldn’t be such a bad scenario IMO.

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is what I would do

since I don’t like to gain nothing.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

but the downside is being stuck with an overpaid, underperforming 1B again next year who, if he has the same output as this year, will have even less value at the trade deadline and then we’ll be in a worse situation.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah very annoying.

It would be better for everybody involved if he started hitting the shit out of the ball. Well I guess if he wants to stay in Baltimore it wouldn’t be better for him. But still if he hits the shit out of the ball the rest of the season with no trade then he’ll get another year here.

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I agree he needs to get with the hitting, but keep in mind DD insists on batting Mora behind him all the damn time. He needs to put Reimold there to give him some protection.”

Beg to disagree—not with the prescription, but with the excuse. If Huff were drawing walks because pitchers were so overawed by the Manhorse, and equally underawed by Mora, OK. But he’s not—he’s whiffing and hitting grounders.

Having said that, I’d love to see the order juggled, with Reimold moving up and Mora down. I just don’t think it will help Huff.

by fishoutawata on Jul 23, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott

I read around the Oriole internets that Scott’s value is inflated due to an unsustainable high BABIP. With Reimold becoming entrenched in LF and Scott’s value as high as it is ever going to be, I would like to see what’s available for Scott. Having his bat at DH or at first next year would be helpful, but if we can get a long term solution at third or short, I think you have to pull the trigger.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Jul 23, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wait is that WAR thing our entire outfield combined?

if so thats totally bullshit. if somebody offered me reimold, markakis, and jones for kemp, i’d take that in a heartbeat

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WAR measured this years performance

It doesn’t mean that Kemp is worth more than all three combined, it just means that up to this point in the season he has brought more value (above a replacement player) than all our outfield combined above replacement players.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i phrased that question kinda weird

i meant that if kemp’s war is 5 (just an example), does that mean our entire outfield combined is 4.9 or lower. or does that mean that 5 is greater than any one player from our outfield?

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should read the link I provided

then you’d know the answer!

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're here, aren't you?

I’m not being a smart ass, I’m just saying.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 23, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well i happen to know our network administrator

and i got an allowance for sbnation (they started blocking it after i started frequenting CC), but i keep getting flagged for straying out

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really, wow?

I’m so glad my work doesn’t do that kind of stuff.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

government contractors tend to care about that stuff

its mostly in place to keep ppl from visiting, shall we say, inappropriate sites at work, but they’ve blocked stuff like espn and facebook

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garrett Atkins for Danys Baez? Danys Baez for a bucket of extra crispy? The Rockies say they are trading TODAY for RH RP. Garrett Atkins ain’t playin’ no mo’. Any shot at this happening?

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it 2004? Then I say yes.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not advocating. I’m just saying.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it 1989?

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in MLB 2009 it works

although i’ve thrown a complete game with baez in the video games…….

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

I suck. I just finished my first season with about 60 wins.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fact

I was so bad that Roberts declined arb and signed with someone else. asshole.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well some folks on this blog think we should trade him cuz he sucks

so maybe that was a good thing? but yea if you turn the difficulty down, you can do some fun stuff.

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and by fun i mean a baez complete game?

hmm i need to find something better to do. any good books out these days?

by twistedlogic on Jul 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been reading This Side of Paradise

Because I never read Gatsby in high school and I heard so much about Fitzgerald.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 23, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finishing

up Suttree. Friend got me on a cormac mccarthy kick.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

and banking regs. this new consumer supercop is going to be a blast.

poor ole consumers…

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's that?

I’m done with TSOP in a day or so. Description on Amazon sounds interesting enough although I don’t know the author at all. Compared him to Steinbeck though, which is a huge plus in my book.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 23, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rockies

acquired Rafael Betancourt.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmm

this probably takes the rockies out of the george sherrill “sweepstakes.” Rockies gave up a decent-to-good looking pitching prospect in Connor Graham. This sets the market for relievers a bit.

by UMterp08 on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlbtraderumors

stated that the Os are asknig for a MLB ready prospect and another prospect if the other team picks up sherrill’s salary and two mlb ready prospects if the Os have to pay it.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jul 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Breezy makes $2.75M this year, and has 2 more arb years. FG has him worth $3.9M so far (in terms of WAR). I can’t imagine a team being so cash strapped that they’ll give up a decent prospect to save $1.2M.

I dont’ know that the Betancourt trade sets the market, it just takes one less reliever and one less team out of the equation.

"On my tombstone just write, THE SOREST LOSER THAT EVER LIVED." -- Earl Weaver

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 again

I was able to see the last out because of this.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 23, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 for heads up

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jul 23, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every couple of years

we must deal with it I suppose

by sickuvitall on Jul 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

I’ll have to be on the lookout for highlights.

Didn’t he throw a no hitter a few years ago?

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY I'VE EVER SEEN

Also dude throws a 3-2 changeup with 1 out in the 9th of a perfect game! Fucking ice water in his veins!

by O'sFan21 on Jul 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was the night Luke

had 7ribbies, i saw that interview LIVE

Get out the rye bread and mustard grandma, cause it's GRAND SALAMI TIME!

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 23, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i mean i was there

Get out the rye bread and mustard grandma, cause it's GRAND SALAMI TIME!

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jul 23, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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