ROY, Brad "3E" Bergesen or Nolan Reimold
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 25, 2009 8:22 AM EDT
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if an Oriole wins ROY this season, who will it be? Would be Brad "3E" Bergesen the staff ace or would it be Nolan Reimold who has made our outfield one of the best in the league.
The Case For Brad: He has been the staff ace, you can count on a quality start from him every time he goes on the mound. Did I mention he has a better ERA then CC Sabathia, and is well above the league average in all pitching stats.
His Stats as of Today:
- W-L 6-5
- ERA 3.56
- K 59
- Walks 30
- WHIP 1.28
The Case For Nolan: Nolan Reimold was that final piece the Orioles needed to have a tremendous outfield. He has been leading AL Rookies almost every stat. He isn't hitting like a rookie, he is hitting like a very expirenced hitter.
His Stats as of Today:
- Avg .271
- HR 9
- RBI 26
- Runs 25
- SB 4
Which Oriole do you think would win Rookie of The Year? Brad Bergesen or Nolan Reimold?
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As stats currently read, 3E, since Nolan had a really bad finish to the first half his numbers dropped majorly.
However, I think that (as we have already seen) Nolan will continue to improve during the second half and I think he’ll half a really nice finish, possibly hovering .300 or even reaching it, as he did before his slump. I also think he’ll find his home run swing again.
As for Bergesen, I think he’ll bring us a bunch more nice outings and his ERA will continue to drop.
So essentially what I’m saying is that I think that both of these guys will drastically improve this upcoming half. Therefore, I have no idea who would win ROY. I do, however, know that the guys keep calling 3E ROY, as a nickname.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Jul 25, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be Reimold
not because he has had a better year than Brad, but Cy Young voters fall in love with wins and losses over ERA and quality starts. That probably goes the same for ROY voters. Either way it would be as bridland as birdland can be if any Oriole won the award.
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by Afghanistan Steve on Jul 25, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some stats
Nolan has a 109 OPS+ so far; Bergesen has a 128 ERA+
Bergesen also has a much higher VORP (25.7 to 9.9), though he has been up here longer than Reimold.
Overall I think you gotta say Bergesen’s more deserving.
by U2boy417 on Jul 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Nolan benefited from a very hot streak but has since cooled down. His .808 OPS from a corner OF spot really doesn’t blow you away.
3 E’s 12th in the AL in ERA among qualified pitchers is amazing. His numbers are just barely worse than how he did last year in AA which is insane. I can not understand how one would consider Nolan a better ROY candidate. Not to mention holding Brad’s W-L record against him is just silly.
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by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VORP stands for..
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 26, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_over_replacement_player
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Jul 26, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, copy and paste it, I forgot to create a link.
by LenaO on Jul 26, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that didn't work so forget that. Just C&P.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Jul 26, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers." - Earl Weaver
"The only thing Earl knows about big-league pitching is that he couldn't hit it." - Jim Palmer
"Ain't the beer cold!?!" - Chuck Thompson
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 26, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's gotta be Bergy.
The difference I see is that Reimold’s been good for a Rookie, but Bergeson’s been GREAT for a major leaguer. (W-L record aside – he’s starting to get the ol’ Guthrie run support.)
Also, what’s this “3E” thing?
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by mamemimo on Jul 26, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 E's in Bergesen
Apparently people kept putting o’s instead of e’s in his name. Somebody else came up with it and I would give them credit but I forget who it was.
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by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
adding to this ROY campaign for both players
is the injury to brett gardner. broken thumb expected to keep him out for a while
by twistedlogic on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, Porcello got shelled again last night
5 ER in 5.2 IP against the White Sox. ERA up to 4.62. Of course he still has 9 wins for a first place team, so I don’t doubt that some goons will still vote for him. Ecch.
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by Brotz13 on Jul 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and, uh...
david price has been awful and wieters has been sub-ZAUN.
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by j.q. higgins on Jul 27, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beckham
is coming on strong — rate stats are pretty similar to Nolan’s (GB: .295/.371/.468; NR .287/.368/.470) in 50 fewer AB. Reimold still has the lead in HR (9 to 5) and SB (6 to 4, and Beckham has been caught four times, while Nolan is perfect so far).
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Jul 28, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Beckham is a bigger name
Playing for a better team and at a more scarce position.
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by Reddrummer9187 on Jul 28, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back on topic...
I voted for Nolan Reimold. why woudl I do that when 3E has had such a fine year?
It’s bad Joo Joos to say anything good about an Oriole pitcher while the season is under way. Even when the season is over you have to restrict it to things like “He wears cute socks”
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by O's_Watcher on Aug 1, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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