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What a bummer

So I'm going to Boston this weekend to see the Red Sox vs the Royals. We're going to the Sunday game, and I was just wondering if I might possibly get to see Zack Greinke and thus perhaps a Royals win. I went to the probable pitchers page and see....

Thursday: Luke Hochevar vs. Brad Penny (so far so good)

Friday: Brian Bannister vs. Jon Lester (still have a chance)

Saturday: Gil Meche vs. John Smoltz (all right! I will probably get to see Greinke!)

Sunday: Bruce Chen vs. Josh Beckett (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!)

I guess if I was paying any attention to the Royals I'd know that Greinke pitched last night, but still, what a letdown. And I mean seriously, Bruce Chen? Of all the pitchers!

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No joke

Bruce is one of my favorite Orioles. He was so cool. Consider yourself lucky.

by NickMarkaces on Jul 9, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruce is the coolest Chinese-Panamanian I've ever known

Doesn’t mean I want to watch him pitch.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Chen is gonna whoop on them Sox

and, as usually seems to happen, while you head north to Boston I shall be coming down to take your place in Bmore and attending the Saturday game against the B’Jays.

And due to your article, I just looked up the probable matchup for Saturday. Rich Hill vs Romero. MF’er! Well, at least the last time I saw a game with the friend i’m bringing was Rich Hill vs the Phillies and Bastardo, and we all know how that ended up. Maybe he’s a Rich Hill good luck charm…

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rich Hill is in the pen until his probable release after the ASG

It will be someone else.

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jul 9, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh joy!

I was wondering why they’d let him pitch again.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fear not

They must have just changed it because now Saturday’s game is listed as Romero vs Bergesen. Battle of the rookies!

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!!

BERG! So cool! Sorry yours hasnt changed…

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude

SO NOT COOL. why did I get my hopes up?

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 10, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be there too...

and I’m so glad to see Bergesen on there!

by NewYorkOriole on Jul 9, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet

looks like CC will be nicely represented. Hopefully we help Berg pull away from Romero in the ROY chase.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither of them will be ROY

I was listening to Eric Karabell and Peter Pascarelli on ESPN radio yesterday (I had burned through all of my usual podcasts), and they answered an email from a Baltimore fan asking about Reimold and Bergesen’s chances at ROY. They totally glossed over those two to talk about Romero (briefly mentioning Rick Porcello), and then Pascarelli said Brett Gardner should be in the discussion. BRETT GARDNER! His entire line of reasoning was that he has “almost 30 RBI” (17, but who’s counting), and leads rookies in SB. I could have choked. Karabell said, “Wouldn’t Reimold have to be ahead of him?”, and Pascarelli’s only response was “I’m just saying he should be in the discussion.” That’s what I get for listening to a couple of boobs. I’m ashamed that Pascarelli used to work in Baltimore. For comparison:

Gardner .287/.360/.416 4 2B, 5 3B, 3 HR, 17 RBI, 18 SB (178 AB)
Reimold .264/.341/.460 5 2B, 0 3B, 9 HR, 23 RBI, 1 SB (163 AB)

I’ll admit that Gardner’s doing better than I would have thought, but if you’re going to go that route, at least have a decent explanation for it. For the pitchers, Bergesen has the lowest WHIP (1.18 to 1.27), Romero has the lowest ERA (2.96 to 3.59 for BB) and best W-L (7-3, though Brad could easily have the same but for a couple of bullpen meltdowns). I didn’t realize how much Porcello had fallen off: 8-6, 4.14 ERA, 1.4 WHIP.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 10, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so i'm guessing saying neither of them will be ROY

was a shot at the guys on espn? cause i read your post to be a counter argument to what they said. i’m not crazy right?

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 10, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What you said

It was sarcasm/a shot at the ESPN guys

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 10, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did they mention Gardner's defense?

His defense makes up for his lesser offensive numbers. I don’t think he’s a legit RoY candidate, just wondering if they even recognized why he has value. Of course he doesn’t even have enough playing time to qualify for most lists, but that’s more of an indictment of the Yankees than him.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 10, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No mention of his defense

But I shouldn’t be surprised. Colby Rasmus was touted as an NL ROY favorite for playing on a first-place team. That’s what they mentioned. Not his 11 HR, not the .814 OPS (114 OPS+), but the fact that he’s playing for a winner. We have a long way to go in sports media.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 10, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

you actually voluntarily listened to Peter Pastabelly? Why??

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail

by duck on Jul 10, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to kill the hours in the office somehow

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Jul 10, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't go to games at Fenway unless the tickets are freebies

I’ve been there enough to say I’ve had the “experience” and have decided that I should not be giving any of my money to the Red Sox.

by drj on Jul 9, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've never been there

besides the Red Sox already got their money. I gave my money to some stooge on Stub Hub.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fenway is overrated

i’ve been and i dont understand why watching a game there is so much cooler than watching a game at camden yards. plus they dont have boog’s bbq there

by twistedlogic on Jul 9, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I like to go to parks I've never been to

I’ve already been to the Phillies park this year and in September I’m going to Citi Field. I’m not looking for a new home or anything. Last year I went to Kansas City to see the Royals. The year before that I went to Miller Park in Milwaukee. I like baseball and I like to see the way it looks from the POV of other teams and fans.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha yea i know

i’m trying to hit up most parks as well…got quite a few left. i was simply mentioning that fenway is clearly inferior due to their lack of boogs bbq. plus you cant bring your own food there either

by twistedlogic on Jul 9, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Philly

has Bull’s BBQ, which is a total rip off of Boog’s, but it is mighty fine. Definitely the 2nd best sporting event food ive ever had.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

havent gotten to the bank yet

but i will….and i most def will NOT be eating bull’s. boog’s all the way

by twistedlogic on Jul 9, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude

its good. theres nothing wrong with eating bbq at another place. I promise you you’ll just be depriving yourself of some deliciousness.

I went with my Phillies fan friend and was sceptical, but it was good. He gets to eat Boogs for the first time Saturday.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he'll never go back to his bull's-eating ways

its like going to italy and coming back to cheap american pasta….

by twistedlogic on Jul 10, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

you’re saying that without having tried it, but whatever makes you happy. Just trying to help.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 10, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i’m just playin. im not really planning on any philly trips anytime soon so its a moot point (or mute point or moo point…..whatever we decided on a few weeks ago :-] )

by twistedlogic on Jul 10, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...

if you do ever get around to going, just look at your own avatar for inspirations. Kids dont get that fat on bad BBQ.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 10, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a very good point

maybe he eats a lot of micky d’s.

btw….mondays are free mocha days at McD’s. no purchase necessary!

by twistedlogic on Jul 10, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not busting on you in particular

It’s fine to go to any park at least once.

I’ve been to Fenway Park plenty and no longer see a need to go on my dime.

by drj on Jul 9, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sad thing is this:

the way Kyle Davies was pitching before being optioned out, Bruce Chen was seen as a significant chance for improvement.

Greinke pitched last night, losing to the immortal Luke French as the Royals continued to not take advantage of having the best pitcher in baseball. Fangraphs has Greinke as being worth 24.5 million

so far this season
…and the Royals are 10-8 in his games.

Damn, you got the one real lopsided pitching match-up here. Hochevar’s been better lately and Bannister’s been very good this season. Meche is great when his back isn’t falling apart and the team isn’t making him throw 130 pitches. I heart the Royals’ FO.

Hopefully the Royals come alive versus Beckett and make a game of it. I’ll be watching all four, enjoying my chance to see the Royals not on mlb.tv.

How good are the seats?

"Do they have people that tall in Mexico?"

by NHZ on Jul 9, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Chen really was the worst possible option

But oh well. I’m sure I’ll have a good time either way.

Our tickets are in the right field box. I think section 90, but I don’t have the tickets in front of me so I’m not sure. We didn’t really have many options as five of us are going to the game. Once we entered the number of tickets we needed the choices were the bleachers, right field box, or on top of the Green Monster. When my friend and I bought the tickets we thought it would be worth it to spend the extra money to get out of the bleachers, then 2632 informed us that we got royally ripped off. But whatever.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep your Chen up, Stacey

It could happen. The O’s came back from 10-1 to beat the Bosox.

by Fred Sanford on Jul 9, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The last time you went away didn't the O's go on a winning streak?

"Daddy, is Hevan like BIRDLAND?"
"No son, Hevan is BIRDLAND."

by BENNY BIRDMAN on Jul 9, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sort of

The O’s won both games vs. Atlanta when I went to NJ for a weekend and it kicked off their series win against the Mets as well. The following weekend I left for the beach and when the O’s swept the Phillies I thought the answer to all of their woes was me being on vacation. Sadly they got swept by the Marlins during that same trip so my theory was busted.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jul 9, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The answer

is clearly that NJ makes everything better.

Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.

by daveh873 on Jul 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of felt that way

in May, I came up to Baltimore for a conference, staying at the Sheraton next to the stadium. Of course, the O’s were out of town all week, so I went to Bowie to check out the young studly guns. Instead, I saw a double header of John Mariotti and Ryan Keefer. Complete with blown save by Wilfredo Perez!

At least I only paid $14 and had seats behind the plate, so it was still fun. Snyder went 3 for 6 on the day with a jack and 4 RBI, so there was that.

"When is the last time Jeremy Guthrie hit somebody? Think about it." -- Jim Palmer 7/2/09

by CoachOfEarl on Jul 10, 2009 3:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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