Earl Weaver--Sports Illustrated
In the latest Sports Illustrated there was a really enjoyable "Where are they now?" feature on Earl. Roch talks about it here. Basically the article talks about how innovative he was as a manager. It mentions how he was a proponent of OBP well before even the earliest Moneyball theory began being developed. It also talks about how vehemently he opposed practices such as the hit-and-run and the sacrifice bunt. Meanwhile, the article sprinkles in great quotes from the Earl of Baltimore.
Some memorable quotes from the piece below the jump:
"I never had a hit-and-run. No sign," Weaver says. "Here's the deal. I hear it on the radio and Joe Morgan, for crissakes. Get a guy on first. He walked. The pitcher is 2 and 0 on the next batter. 'Perfect time for a hit-and-run,' the announcer says. If the pitcher could throw a strike, don't you think he would have thrown it to the guy on first?"
Weaver: [To his team at a closed-door meeting] You guys don't want to win bad enough! I never failed to get a guy in from third base with less than two outs!Pitcher Dave McNally: Yeah, and you never played higher than Double A.
Weaver: And another thing, if you don't make the last out of the game, you never lose! I never made the last out.
[Pitcher Jim Palmer raises his hand.]
Weaver: What?
Palmer: We all know why you never made the last out, Earl.
Weaver: Why?
Palmer: Because they always pinch-hit for you.
Weaver: Aw, you ruined the mood, Palmer!
On the field in fromt of him, the Orioles throw out a runner at first base by a step. Weaver smiles at the perfection of the mundane. "Doubleday made those bases, home to first, just the right distance," Weaver says. "They're all out by a step."
And finally, while watching Adam Eaton pitch in Spring Training:
Whack! "Mix in a wild pitch or something!"
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And a link to the article
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1157671/1/index.htm
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by getxstoked on Jul 9, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I loved his Eaton quotes
“Oh my God!”
“Who the hell is pitching?”
Earl sounds like me watching an O’s game.
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by Brotz13 on Jul 9, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That palmer quote is make ROTFL
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jul 10, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there are some great ones
One time, after a Brooks error and a walk or something, Earl ran out and asked him “Are you trying!?”
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Jul 10, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a million of them
“You can’t sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You’ve got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That’s why baseball is the greatest game of them all. "
A great quote, especially considering that he just lost to the Miracle Mets
I’m so proud that Earl will always be known as an Oriole.
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by BirdFanInPhilly on Jul 10, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m occasionally asked why I remain an Orioles fan by the super knowledgeable sports fans in the Boston area. “How can you still be a fan of a team that hasn’t been any good since Brooks Robinson played third base”? Ignoring the ignorance behind that question, the query comes from fans who used to bask in their faux-martyrdom of sticking with their team.
I usually say something along the lines of I got to grow up with one of the greatest organizations in baseball. The team had a baseball genius for a manager, and years of top-notch management that usually figured out a way to compete against the richer teams. As a youngster I didn’t fully realize this fact. In retrospect, I am sure glad I got to live through it. I love when the underdog wins, and Baltimore was a perennial underdog when it came to resources*. The Orioles under Weaver were the ultimate anti-Yankee organization (unlike the Red Sox of today, regardless of how they market themselves) and they won, a lot. Now? I bide my time wondering if they can turn things around. If they never do, I’ll still always have something most baseball fans never will.
*Read this book for more insight: The Baseball Business: Pursuing Pennants and Profits in Baltimore
by drj on Jul 10, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Just bought the book
I actually found it in pristine condition at a used book store in Lake Placid, NY, for $6. A fortuitous find.
by PhilR8 on Jul 18, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another good one ...
Exchange between Weaver and an umpire who had just tossed him:
Weaver (heading back to the dugout): I’m going to check the rule-book on that.
Ump (pulling out his rulebook): Here, use mine.
Weaver: That’s no good – I can’t read Braille.
by mystery tramp on Jul 11, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mastercard should use that
because it is priceless!
by fishoutawata on Jul 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Classic
Pat Kelly was avery religious player and always expanding on the good book. Finally Earl told him to just shut up. “But Earl,” Pat said, “don’t you want me to walk with the Lord?” Earl responded, “No, I’d rather you walk with the bases loaded!”
Classic.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jul 11, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Favorite Quotes From That Article
Earl Sidney Weaver desperately wants to have more of whatever is being counted than you have. What drove him absolutely crazy as a manager, or absolutely [bleeping] crazy in the Weaver patois, were all the messy obstacles to his simple desire to win. What stood maddeningly in his way, besides the guys on the other side of the field, were ballplayers of his who made outs on the base paths, umpires, people who thought the hit-and-run play was good baseball, sacrifice bunts, umpires, the five-man rotation, that smart-aleck Palmer, umpires, pitchers who didn’t throw strikes, fans who wanted the Orioles to run more and, well … those bleeping umpires.
The subject of cheating brings the conversation to another subject. The Steroid Era, I ask him, does it embarrass you?
“Oh, I don’t know.” The man who would do just about anything to win a ball game pauses for a moment, letting honesty bubble to the surface. “Not really,” he says quietly. “You’re always looking for an edge. And guys, that’s their living. And if a growth hormone helps you be better physically and able to do more things physically … but it just shatters the records.”
Weaver: [To little-used reliever Dave Leonhard before Game 6 of the 1971 World Series] How do you feel, Leonhard?
Leonhard: I feel good. But you never ask me [to pitch].
Weaver: I want you to be ready. Be ready to warm up around the eighth inning.
Leonhard: Earl, I’m honored you’re contemplating using me in a World Series game.
Weaver: I ain’t using you. I just want Palmer to see you warming up so he can pitch better.
“Earl used to have a meeting at the end of spring training every year, and he’d say, ’I’m taking the best 25. If we play together, we have a chance to win.’ It was pretty much the case. Well, one year we weren’t playing so well, and Earl had a meeting. He said, ‘I want to let you know something. I made a mistake.’ We all leaned forward on our stools. Earl was going to admit a mistake! And then he goes, ‘I picked the wrong 25 guys.’”
“I never had a hit-and-run. No sign,” Weaver says. “Here’s the deal. I hear it on the radio and Joe Morgan, for crissakes. Get a guy on first. He walked. The pitcher is 2 and 0 on the next batter. ‘Perfect time for a hit-and-run,’ the announcer says. If the pitcher could throw a strike, don’t you think he would have thrown it to the guy on first?”
None of it made sense to Weaver: asking the runner to get a late, conservative break and the batter to swing at anything when he’s ahead in the count—all against a pitcher who is wild and in trouble. “But the worst is making outs on the bases,” Weaver says. “Run yourself right out of a frickin’ inning.”
I love Earl Weaver.
by yurizanow on Jul 11, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some more classics.....
On my tombstone just write, ‘The sorest loser that ever lived.’
“A manager’s job is simple. For one hundred sixty-two games you try not to screw up all that smart stuff your organization did last December.”
“The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers.”
“This ain’t a football game, we do this every day. "
" Don’t worry, the fans don’t start booing until July. "
Earl Weaver
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
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by breweyboy18 on Jul 12, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a classic Earl Weaver video moment
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 20, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl-4FSRYagc
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 20, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah this is great
“You gonna be in the hall of fame for fuckin up world series?” Hilarious.
by PhilR8 on Jul 20, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that brings....
a smile to my face.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
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by breweyboy18 on Jul 21, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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