Matusz on Tuesday "Definitely a possibility"
Per the Sun,
It appears that the Brian Matusz era in Baltimore will start far earlier than anyone expected.
The Orioles are giving heavy consideration to promoting the 22-year-old Double-A pitcher and having him start on Tuesday against the Detroit Tigers in Brad Bergesen's spot in the rotation.
"That is definitely a possibility," Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail said today. "We've canvassed everybody and it's definitely a possibility."
Matusz, who is scheduled to start for Bowie tonight at New Britain, is 7-0 with a 1.59 ERA in seven Double-A starts. In 45 1/3 innings for Bowie, he has allowed just 30 hits and 10 walks while striking out 45. Opponents are hitting just .188 against him.
The left-hander, who the Orioles drafted fourth overall last year out of the University of San Diego, has allowed no runs in four of his seven starts for Bowie. Before his promotion to Double-A, he went 4-2 with a 2.16 ERA in 11 starts for Single-A Frederick.
Matusz is ranked as the Orioles' third-best prospect by Baseball America. The two guys ahead of him -- catcher Matt Wieters and right-hander Chris Tillman -- have already been promoted this season.
MacPhail said several times this season that Matusz would not make his big-league debut this season, but circumstances have changed drastically due to both injuries and ineffectiveness in the Orioles' rotation. Jeremy Guthrie is the only member of the Opening Day rotation that is still a part of the five-man staff, which is currently manned by three rookies (Tillman, Jason Berken and David Hernandez).
My gut reaction to this is that it's too early. But look at Matusz' stats - he's actually gotten BETTER since moving to Bowie. (Remind you of anyone?) More telling is that the people who have MacPhail's ear are telling him it's not too early to bring him up... hopefully this won't be the wrong move. I'm a little gun shy, myself. Maybe this is another one of those times where it's best to trust MacPhail to do the right thing.
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I'm kinda shocked they're considering this.
However, I’m by no means against it. Matusz just seems like the kinda guy that’ll dominate anywhere. Even skipping AAA I think he’d be able to pull off better starts then most of the guys that have started for us in the past years. So I say give it a shot and if it’s apparent that he’s not ready, send him back down. But I wouldn’t think he’d run into too much trouble.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Aug 1, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What if he does run into trouble?
This is a really dumb move.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
by Baltimo on Aug 1, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all. If he runs into trouble, you either give him another start or just send him back down for more work.
Scouts say he’s ready. He dominates wherever he goes, and he doesn’t get intimidated. It’s not like he’s a pitcher out of high school, he consistently dominated 4 years of college. I say give him a shot.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Aug 1, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to nitpick
but he only pitched 3 years of college ball
by O'sFan21 on Aug 1, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, my mistake. I wasn't sure of the year but assumed he pitched for four years.
But nonetheless, consistently dominated multiple years of college ball.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Aug 1, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree...i'm not sure i like this move
what happened to not wanting to rush the prospects?
by twistedlogic on Aug 1, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not rushing if they're ready.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
by getxstoked on Aug 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who says they are ready?
he hasnt pitched a single game above AA
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
somebody who gets paid to scout baseball talent
by b_duardo on Aug 2, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more or less often than
self assured bloggers would you say?
by b_duardo on Aug 2, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's ready. He's being playing against competitive guys for almost 4 years. He's got the stuff and the make-up. I think the scouts are right in this case. Bring him on up and give him a shot at the Show.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Aug 2, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesnt matter
he has to run into trouble sometime in the majors, he has nothing left for him in AA he is dominating the minors
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Aug 1, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally wrong.
He’s learning how to locate his fastball in the minors.
by O'sFan21 on Aug 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mixed feelings
This is only a spot start and not for the rest of the season, right? If thats the case, I would rather just see them bring up a scrub like Chris Waters or something
by UMterp08 on Aug 1, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'd say it's a 2 week tryout
and serving notice to Jason Berken that it’s survival of the fittest in MLB. He better keep replicating that last effort he had if he wants to stay when 3E gets healthy.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Aug 1, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the argument against a scrub...
…would be the message it sends to the team. “Yeah, we’re calling up a scrub for three starts. Deal with it.”
On the other hand, calling up Matusz says, here’s our heralded pitching prospect – he might get shelled a bit, but we’re not looking to end this season on a 4-32 streak, so get your heads in the fucking game.
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by Eat More Esskay on Aug 1, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that second message. A lot.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Aug 1, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how true this is
But if your pitcher has pitched a great game and it’s tied in the sixth, isn’t there some sort of extra motivation to win the game for the pitcher? Isn’t there extra motivation to get someone a win in their first start? I believe it shouldn’t be overlooked.
If we bring him up, I think it’s a good move. It’s giving the fans another reason to tune in, to continue to go to the Yard. It’s giving our older veterans a little something more to play for.
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by the fix is in on Aug 2, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm against it
It’s a risky move and one where I’m not sure what the payoff is supposed to be. Yes, it would be fantastic for Matusz to start to get acquainted with major league hitters in preparation for next season (when, either way I assume he opens with the big club) and perhaps he is ready…but that’s about it for the upshot. Winning more games this season would be nice and all, but it isn’t a goal (in my mind).
The downside seems to be pretty big though – just look at the pile of corpses: Matt Riley, Radhames Liz, Daniel Cabrera. What if Matusz comes up and looks as overmatched as Jason Berken? What does that do to help? Plus who knows what the inning limit is on Matusz this year…he might only be able to come up and make 6 starts or so. At that point, I almost have to wonder what the point is.
So I don’t think it would be a great idea. I’m all for promoting him to Norfolk, though. But…if it’s him, it won’t be the worst thing in the world, and it might pay off and fast track the pitching to success sooner than intended…
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by Andrew @ TLC on Aug 1, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Second that...
we are done making dumb mistakes. Done. Done Done.
by Tassadar on Aug 1, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really buy the "called up too early argument"
Maybe it’s the case every once in a while (Penn?) but I think what it comes down to at the end is that DCab, Liz, etc… just weren’t all that good, while Matusz is. He beats hitters in and out of the strike zone, knows exactly when and how to mix in his off speed pitches, doesn’t walk a lot of guys, what else could you want? The only skill left for him to learn is how to make adjustments to big league hitters making adjustments to him, which he can’t do in AA or AAA.
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by arlingtonOsFan on Aug 1, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, yeah...
none of the pitchers mentioned in the argument against listed above had the pedigree of matusz pre-o’s. offhand i can say for certain that penn, liz and cabrera never had a run at any level of ball (certainly not at an advanced level) like matusz has had.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
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by j.q. higgins on Aug 1, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's a highly debatable position
All the same:
2005 Hayden Penn at Bowie: 110.1 IP, 120 K, 37 BB, 11 HR, 3.83 ERA (20 years old)
2009 Brian Matusz at Bowie: 45.1 IP, 45 K, 10 BB, 2 HR, 1.59 ERA (22 years old)
Obviously Matusz gets the boost for his age and home run rate, but the Ks and walks are pretty close. Penn was very, very good at AA once upon a time, and got called up in June because of it and was never really the same again. Maybe he was rushed, maybe he just had a fluky year, maybe he regressed because he wasn’t that good in the first place, but maybe the callup stunted him. Maybe it wouldn’t stunt him if he was 22. I don’t know.
But it worries me, and it should definitely worry you all, even if it doesn’t happen. It’s a gamble. I’m just not sure what we’re gambling for exactly.
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by Andrew @ TLC on Aug 1, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matusz has a MUCH better track record.
His level of competition before the minors was much higher than Penn’s.
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by duck on Aug 1, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three days rest?
According to MILB.com, Matusz is expected to start tonight for Bowie. So if he does pitch tonight and gets called up for Tuesday, he will be making is first big-league start on only three days rest. I think that’s a recipe for disaster. On that note, will we know if he is definitely getting called up if he is scratched from his start tonight?
by ryanplat on Aug 1, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would assume he would only throw a few innings tonight
Probably 3 max.
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by duck on Aug 1, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roch said he was pulled after one...
he’s going in detroit, looks like.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 1, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called it!

"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Aug 1, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is that...
I mean, what do we do if the Big 3 falter? Yeah, there’s depth, but we’ve clung onto this hope of the Big 3 for a year. Now, we’re going to start finding out if it’s reality.
The good news is, guys like Bergesen and Hernandez show you don’t neccesarily have to have the buildup to actually be good, and pitchers like Erbe and others may end up being our stars.
But it would be awesome to see Hernadez, Bergesen, Tillman and Matusz win games this September. Talking about serving notice to the rest of the division…
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Aug 1, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he is ready
But even still, what are the possible benefits of bringing up Matusz?
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
by Baltimo on Aug 1, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Having someone pitch that doesn't suck
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
by getxstoked on Aug 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And our season is still completely meaningless
I just don’t see how this is going to get us closer to winning the WS.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
by Baltimo on Aug 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm for it
The thing most people are overlooking is that Matusz is a college pitcher, not a high schooler who has a a couple of minor league years. He’s 22 years old and has spent several years pitching against good competition. He’s probably more “ready” than Tillman is. He is probably more polished than most of you think.
by SidewinderX on Aug 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian Matusz
Brian Matusz made his scheduled start for Bowie tonight…was not scratched.
by partymonkey on Aug 1, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was pulled after an inning.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Aug 1, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know what do say on this..
Good Luck in LA George and Welcome To Baltimore Josh and Steve.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 1, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matusz update per Roch:
Brian Matusz has been removed from Game 1 of Double-A Bowie’s doubleheader after only one inning.
Manager Dave Trembley warned reporters earlier today that an early exit didn’t necessarily mean the left-hander was joining the Orioles in Detroit. It simply allows him to remain a candidate for promotion.
That said, let’s run wild with it anyway.
Matusz gave up a hit, walked one and struck out one in the first inning.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
by LenaO on Aug 1, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think part if the reason people are freaking
Has to do with the fact that this is now 2 of the 3…. The dreaming about what happens when they get here starts to go by the wayside as the kids start to come up. One way or another the future dreams of ours arw becoming a reality.
by GeoffreyA on Aug 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
There is that...
I mean, what do we do if the Big 3 falter? Yeah, there’s depth, but we’ve clung onto this hope of the Big 3 for a year. Now, we’re going to start finding out if it’s reality.
The good news is, guys like Bergesen and Hernandez show you don’t neccesarily have to have the buildup to actually be good, and pitchers like Erbe and others may end up being our stars.
But it would be awesome to see Hernadez, Bergesen, Tillman and Matusz win games this September. Talking about serving notice to the rest of the division…
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
by duck on Aug 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
abso...
thoroughbreds just wanna run.
i mean, running rookies out to start for a last place team isn’t TOO different than letting them take their lumps in the bullpen on a contender in that their getting to see big league hitters w/ in low leverage situations. they then have an offseason to learn, process and fine tune as opposed to coming in cold next year.
i mean, everyone thinks matusz and tillman would have been up before next year’s all star break, anyways, right?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true to both above
I’ll admit I’m scared but tbh the kid can pitch…. There was some talk last fall of letting him get some MLB exp too iirc. I don’t see any reason to run him to AAA especially since a lot of the top tier prospects in said organizations are in AA as well.
by GeoffreyA on Aug 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He is ready.
I’ve seen him pitch in Bowie. He’s definitely ready.
Just because other players were rushed does not mean that Matusz is being rushed.
by wickedwitch on Aug 1, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how do you know that?
AA != MLB
Arrieta and Patton both dominated in AA but have yet to solve AAA hitting…..
by twistedlogic on Aug 1, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Matusz is not Troy Patton or Jake Arrietta.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
by getxstoked on Aug 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and note...
that neither is being considered. there is obviously some logic at play here.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH....thanks for pointing that out....i had no idea
AA hitting is not MLB hitting. but i guess thats a completely illogical statement….
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well what does MLB hitting equal besides MLB hitting?
by b_duardo on Aug 2, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB hitting of course
logical eh?
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, its inane
A pitcher can never face MLB hitting until he is allowed to face MLB hitting. There aren’t any trial runs. Some day you gotta jump in the pool.
by b_duardo on Aug 2, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad idea if you cant swim
i prefer jumping out anyways: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this happens it is a great idea.
CC Sabathia, Verlander, Santana, Webb and a bunch of guys never threw one pitch in AAA. and they have turned out pretty good. I would say this list I mentioned is even longer. If he stumbles then he goes back to Norfolk and begins his time there. If not pencil him in the rotation, move Guthrie to the pen and let the chips fall where they may.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Aug 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't move Guthrie to the pen just yet
but I wouldn’t guarantee him a rotation spot in the spring
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
by getxstoked on Aug 1, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we have seen enough of Guthrie as a starter
He needs to work on some things in the pen. I don’t see why he gets a pass on sucking at pitching when we don’t give anyone else a pass (Huff, Mora, Eaton, etc)
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Aug 1, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure sick of watching him toss gopher balls.
by O'sFan21 on Aug 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's gotta be leading the league, right?
at this rate, is 40 out of the question?
though, i have to admit, last weekend i was watchint phillies v. cards and rodrigo lopez was pitching for the phils. he has some decent numbers and i had to rub my eyes in disbelief…then he gave up a mammoth shot to rick ankiel, and i thought, ah, yes. i know him well.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 2, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just did some checking and I want to add some names to my previous list of pitchers
Not spending time at AAA. Peavy, Beckett, Kazmir, Kershaw, and Porcello. Now he could falter and we could always send him back. But hey let’s see what he’s got. I could make him a better pitcher in the long run. From what I hear he is very mature and his experiance level can not be measured with Arrieta, Tillman and the others. San Diego is a big time place to pitch.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Aug 1, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Ray
He sucks because he can not stay healthy. I noticed he did not mention that.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
by Baysox39 on Aug 1, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
scary, but exciting.
and also annoying, because I have dinner plans for Tuesday night.
by Dingbat Charlie on Aug 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm for it
He’s not learning anything in AA, not being challenged, and can come fill a big league need.
He’s on teh 40 man roster already and has was signed to a MLB contract, which doesn’t happen to to many draftees. Wieters didn’t even get a MLB contract until he came up to the bigs. This may have been the (backup) plan all along.
Plus, like others have noted, he’s a college pitcher who came here with a fair amount of polish. Not everyone needs to spend time at every level. And it’s not like he’s 19 or 20.
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
by CoachOfEarl on Aug 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the 20th time
Just because he’s dominating doesn’t mean that he’s “not learning anything”. They’ve said VERY specifically that he’s working on locating and pitching off of his fastball more. That’s learning an incredibly important aspect of pitching if he wants to pitch in the majors. Don’t assume that just because he’s doing well that he’s not learning and developing. That’s a huge mistake.
by O'sFan21 on Aug 1, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to assume
that if/when he gets shelled in the bigs, he’s going to return to AA(A), cry himself to sleep at night in his crappy apartment, and flame out a la Rad Liz and eventually be traded for sports equipment.
"I don't like to be here and just thinking about in October I'm going to go on vacation " -- Melmo moaning about being benched when he's hitting .256/.321/.330
by CoachOfEarl on Aug 3, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
If he’s not being challenged, you have to move him up. Facing inferior batters your probably more likely to develop bad habits than to develop better skills.
Although, I would have prefered some time in AAA; but it’s not exactly that uncommon to skip AAA.
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by BirdFanInPhilly on Aug 2, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm for it as well
as long as he doesn’t run his arm into the ground, if he gets a call for the rest of the season. And let’s remember folks, even if the Big 3 sort of suck at the beginning, that’s what happens. They are kids, and it will take a season or two to figure out how to pitch in the majors. I don’t expect anything spectacular out of them until at least after all-star break next year, but let’s hope they prove me wrong ASAP.
by Timmy L. on Aug 1, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitching Good, Hitting...
Well its obvious our pitching staff is really shaping out, but how about our lineup. Realistically we only have two legitimate hitting prospects (Snyder & Bell), hopefully they can blossom and assume their place with our team.
by No More Steroids Please on Aug 1, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bell and Snyder
Snyder plays first and Bell plays third. Our outfield is set, SS is set with Izturis for this year and maybe Andino for the future. Roberts should be here for 3 more years after this season. Wieters is here to stay. So that just leaves to positions first and third, the positions that snyder and bell play….
www.snaorioles.com
by ravensfan3 on Aug 1, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HR's
We still need a 30-35 HR threat too, but I think we need to go outside the organization to get that.
by No More Steroids Please on Aug 2, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
30-35
even if we dont have that, markakis should usually get about 20-25 and jones could hit for maybe 25-30 next year
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by ravensfan3 on Aug 2, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think we have a bunch of guys with the potential to hit 20-30 HRs consistently (Nicky, AJ, Reimold and Wieters hopefully), but it would be nice to have a power stud in the 35-40 range most years. I think when the time comes you’re right that will come from elsewhere.
by O'sFan21 on Aug 2, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wieters
I thought wieters is expected to be a major power hitter in the 30-35 range
www.snaorioles.com
by ravensfan3 on Aug 2, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome
but I haven’t seen signs of that…
by O'sFan21 on Aug 2, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bell and Waring are both power guys
Waring is more of a Dunn type, and Bell has a little better average and a little less power, but both to me see like possible 30 HR guys.
"I don't like to be here and just thinking about in October I'm going to go on vacation " -- Melmo moaning about being benched when he's hitting .256/.321/.330
by CoachOfEarl on Aug 3, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
give it time.
Huff has gone back to being Huff. Deal with it.
by birdman on Aug 3, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They said...
McPhail and Trembley said that they are looking for a No. 1 starter in the offseason along with a true power hitting right hander. What do you guys think of the possibility of Ben Sheets being our ace?
by No More Steroids Please on Aug 2, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where did you see that?
I haven’t heard much from them before about seeking a true ace.
by O'sFan21 on Aug 2, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they talked about it on the broadcast last night
by SidewinderX on Aug 2, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They meaning our idiot broadcasters or they meaning AM?
by O'sFan21 on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our broadcasters
but they mentioned mcphail saying it. regardless of who said it though, i’d have to agree. we could benefit greatly from a good righty power hitter and a good front of the rotation guy
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erik Bedard!
Sorry, he’s not really an ace because you just cant count on him being there every 5th day, but I just want hiom back because i’m a spiteful jerk.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
by daveh873 on Aug 2, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When?
Do you have a link of them saying this? I have heard of the Ben Sheets being our ace. I think that would be good. He is a good veteran number one starter, although who knows how good he will be after surgery.
www.snaorioles.com
by ravensfan3 on Aug 2, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its Early
It was actually Trembley who said it from an excerpt pre-game, Trembley didn’t say Sheets, but he said they would be looking for an Ace. Sheets is often hurt but when hes healthy hes filthy.
by No More Steroids Please on Aug 2, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a bad idea!
No offense intended to anyone with a different point of view on this but Matusz simply isn’t ready for the majors left. The only thing they might get out of it is a couple more thousand seats sold when he starts the first time. Let him finish in AA and then next year invited him to spring training to introduce him to Major League hitters. That is what spring training is for not calling him up to make 1 or 2 emergency starts. In all likelyhood he’ll get rocked!
I know I am repeating myself but whats the point of calling Matusz up? So he can have his confidence destroyed? Because we are none to please with Berken and Hill? NO! let him finish his season in Bowie. Promote him to AAA next season and then see monitor how he is doing.
The season is already blown. As for sending any messages to players about what happens when you perform poorly they already know. They didn’t P*ss away their childhoods playing a game that they wanted to be terrible at. Sorry your thinking on that is way off. These young pitchers like Berken, Hill and the rest have failed because they were our best option and they either werent ready or do not possess major league talent. Personally I think Berken can make it, but I don’t think Hill will.
Promoting Matusz would in all likelyhood result in him getting two starts that are at best mediocre and more likely terrible. He simply isn’t ready. Everyone is starved for these young pitchers to be starters now. The season is already lost. This is where you get guy like Berken, Hernandez and Tillman acclimated (though I think Tillman’s promotion was premature also).
Promoting a AA prospect does nothing!
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by O's_Watcher on Aug 2, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how you know he’s going to get 2 starts that are either terrible or mediocre. He’s a pitcher that has been dominating AA hitting, and it’s pretty common for a pitcher to move from from AA to ML. He may come up and get shelled, he may come up and be lights out. Nobody really knows, but based on his performance so far; I find it odd to say that in all likelyhood he’ll get rocked.
I think more than likely, after Bergesen comes off the DL, Berken goes back to where he belongs and Matusz stays up.
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by BirdFanInPhilly on Aug 2, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have to get this over with before he starts:
WHat is the correct pronounciation of his name? Mat-tooz? Mat-oose? It is not every day you see an s and a z together like that.
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by the fix is in on Aug 2, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think with us americans that butcher names tremendously
it is simply mat-iss. At least that’s what I have heard a bunch of times.
by Timmy L. on Aug 2, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take your word
I feel like I should have heard Joe Angel pronounce it already. He never messes up a name.
I remember him saying bas-TARD-o in a way that didn’t suggest “bastard”
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by the fix is in on Aug 2, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Polish, and unfortunately people that can't speak Polish find "sz" to be practically impossible to pronounce, so I think everyone else says "mattiss".
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by LenaO on Aug 2, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how would it be pronounced in the correct Polish?
by O Nina on Aug 2, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really possibly to spell out on a computer. Kinda like saying shh with your teeth gritted? Maybe? Not really describable.
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by LenaO on Aug 2, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's what wikpedia says
The IPA symbol for sz is ʂ (an s with a small attatched L on the bottom if your computer won’t show it) . Apparently pronounced “sh as in ship” so it could be mat-ush? ma-tush?
fuck it, we’ll just go with what Joe Angel.
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by the fix is in on Aug 2, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
saying mat-ush makes me feel like i've got a fat lip or something
polish names are impossible
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love listening to people butcher a name like Szczelinewski or something. So fun. :D
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by LenaO on Aug 2, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and for the record, I totally made that name up by mixing together a wide variety of difficult to make Polish sounds.
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by LenaO on Aug 2, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
when i first saw the name mike krzyzewski i in no way thought sha-chef-ski
by twistedlogic on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, that is so very incorrect. Sz does not equal sh. It's a VERY different sound. Silly pro. guides.
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by LenaO on Aug 2, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He're my 2 cents
I’m not gonna get all worried and upset that they are bringing him up too early. If they are gonna bring him up now, all the worrying and swear words I can think of wont change that, and Matusz’s first start is something I want to fully be able to enjoy. We dont get much as O’s fans, but this is one of those things that we can just sit back and take in while dreaming about the future. I trust Andy Mac, and whatever happens will happen, so i’m just gonna be a fan and take it all in.
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by daveh873 on Aug 2, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we keep losing...
We can draft Strasburg next year, b/c Nats aren’t going to.
by No More Steroids Please on Aug 2, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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