Huff to Detroit. Try and find a decent bar THERE, Aubrey.
by duck on Aug 17, 2009 3:44 PM EDT
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PrintSo far, only WNST.net has it, which makes me a tad bit leery, but they seem pretty sure:
The Orioles today announced that they have acquired minor league RHP BRETT JACOBSON from the Detroit Tigers in exchange for INF AUBREY HUFF and will assign him to Class-A Frederick.
Jacobson, 22, went 1-3 with 6 saves, a 3.74 ERA (55.1IP, 23ER) and 44 strikeouts in 35 games with Class-A Lakeland this season. The 6’6", 205-pound righthander was the Tigers’ 4th round selection in the 2008 First Year Player Draft out of Vanderbilt University.
Jacobson went 2-2 with a 1.52 ERA (29.2IP, 5ER) and 31 strikeouts in 21 games with Class-A West Michigan in 2008 and was named Detroit’s #10 prospect by Baseball America.
Huff, 32, batted .253 (109-430) with 13 home runs and 72 RBI in 110 games for the Orioles this season. He hit his 200th career home run on July 31 off of John Smoltz. Huff signed a three-year contract with the Orioles on January 3, 2007 as a free agent. He was voted Most Valuable Oriole in 2008, batting .304 with 32 home runs and 108 RBI.
Time doesn't permit me to do a full retrospective on Aubrey Huff's career in Baltimore. That's what the comments are for. Have at it!
[Note by Stacey, 08/17/09 5:01 PM EDT ] Quotes from Aubrey on his trade, courtesy of Roch.
"I've grown close to a lot of staff, and especially a lot of players on this team. It's definitely emotional. I've seen all these young guys come up and I've had a great time with all these young guys. To be able to see them finish out the year and grow....it's a little hard. But at the same time for me, it's really exciting to be able to go to a team that's in contention. For me, my whole career I've been in last place, so this is going to be a very exciting time for me."
"I want to thank Andy for the opportunity to come here and play all these years, and the whole staff," said Huff, who batted .253 with 13 homers and 72 RBIs in 110 games. "Dave's been great, all the players have been awesome, and I'm really going to miss it, despite what happened back in '07 with all the Baltimore talk. I really enjoyed my time here."
Asked if the group he's leaving behind can win one day, Huff said, "No doubt in my mind. This is probably some of the best young talent I've ever been around, and I've been around some young talent with my days in Tampa. I always said those guys were some of the best young players coming up with Carl Crawford, Baldelli and Kazmir, but if you ask me, these guys are more talented. It's a very exciting time here, and Baltimore should have a lot to look forward to."
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So who is gonna take over at 1st?
It would make sense for snyder to come up so he can get used to ML pitching but I heard rumours that Luke was gonna try his hand at first next year if we did get rid of the Huff
"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow." ~ Earl Weaver
I wonder if it has to do with Pie...
…looking like he’s made strides lately. The plan may be to move Scott to 1b, Pie starting in LF, and Reimold at DH.
Pie’s been looking like he’s made strides for a while, I’d be seriously disappointed if MacPhail decides “Hey, Pie hit for the cycle, let’s try to get him more playing time”
But this deal is absolutely incredible for us.
I don't think I stated or implied...
….that the cycle was the only evidence of Pie’s making strides. That said, there does seem to be some significant change between the feelings of the club about Huff before the deadline and now.
Only a relief prospect, but he looks much better than I would’ve expected.
Pre-season #3 prospect for the Tigers, according to Sickels:
3) Brett Jacobson, RHP, Grade B-: Second-best of the power arms. Stuff not quite as good as Perry but better command.
I wonder if we sent $$$ their way?
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Aug 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure we paid the rest of his salary
But it’s a fantastic deal to get a warm body, let alone an actual prospect for Huff.
Damn
beat me by that much.
You can delete my post.
What can I say?
I liked the guy, despite what he said about Baltimore. He more than made up for it last season with the goofy I heart Baltimore shirt and especially the 32 homers.
Still, you do what you have to do, and this helps the franchise. A better prospect than I would expect for about 40 games of Aubrey Huff, so good work by the front office.
Meanwhile the Orioles have just agreed on a near-$1 million bonus for late-round pick Ohlman. Interesting.
On Jacobson:
His scouting report when drafted last season:
Jacobson has yet another big arm. Are you sensing a theme here in the Tigers draft? In the rotation, Brett can sit at 94-95, but he gets more movement and better command when he works at 91-93. At the lower speed his fastball is less hittable and he is able to keep it down in the zone with much greater frequency. When he actually ‘pitched’ on the Cape, he was virtually unhittable, but he was not able to parlay that success to the college season in 2008. There are some rumblings that his stuff just doesn’t play well in the college game, and he could be a far better starter in the pros.
As a reliever this year, Brett’s slider was sharper and harder, with better bite and depth. It became a true out pitch in that role, and there are some scouts who believe that can transfer to the rotation with him. He also mixes in a change-up that sits in the low-80s with good sink. He must learn to move his change to the corners with more regularity, but he has shown a feel for the pitch.
If Jacobson can slide the success with his slider and command that he found in the bullpen, back to the rotation, the Tigers may have found themselves a gem. There are many scouts that still believe he has everything needed to be a starter, and the Tigers could give him a chance to fulfill that potential. If for some reason things don’t click in the rotation, his aggressive mentality and hard fastball could make for a nice relief option.
He’s worked exclusively out of the pen for the Tigers.
Adios, Manhorse
I wouldn’t jump the gun and assume that Snyder’s on his way. This probably means that the O’s eat a shit sandwich and go back to Melmo as the regular 3B and Wiggy as regular 1B. I’d think Michael Aubrey (as the only 1B type at Norfolk with a full year of AAA experience) gets called up to be a bench player. But what do I know?
My recent favorite goofy Huff memory came during the Tillman debut. There was a video board feature in between innings that involved various players giving dating advice. Their tips ranged from the conventional (Adam Jones suggested dinner and a movie) to the sarcastic (Brian Roberts claimed that showing a woman your baseball card collection would win her over) to the hilarious (Sherrill deadpanned “Snowcones.”). But the best was Aubrey Huff, who just said, “Melting Pot”. He then sat there staring at the camera with this weird grin on his face for like 30 seconds, just an uncomfortably long time. Stacey was there too, and can confirm the surreal humor of it all. I think it’s a clubhouse joke that we’re not privy to.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
FWIW
Michael Aubrey had 50 PAs in Cleveland last year (.613 OPS), so he’s even got a bit of MLB experience. Smells like roster filler.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
Yeah, it was bizarre
“MELTING POT”….stare…stare….stare…stare
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Holy Crap this just made my day.
I’d given up on getting anything for Huff.
I mean… he’s only a reliever, but he’s a legit prospect and I had given up on getting anything for Huff
Wow
I’m in the middle of writing tonight’s game thread and I hopped onto masn to see if the lineups were posted yet and saw that Huff was traded. Well then, now I’ve gotta go change a bunch of crap.
So long man horse! I hope someone informs Detroit that only the children will be spared.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I'm sure I can find it.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Per Roch and the Sun
LUUUUKKKEEEE starting at 1B tonight, Wiggy at DH.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
Luke at 1B
Awesome. Cool hand should be our 1B next year. Now is the perfect time to break him in.
Huff has gone back to being Huff. Deal with it.
Yay
Brett Jacobson is about a good of a prospect you’re going to get for a 1.5 months of Huff daddy.
Huff has gone back to being Huff. Deal with it.
yeah, y'know...
considering the o’s were not (we agree on this, right?) going to offer huff daddy arb, this seems like about as good as they were going to get for him this year, but you have to think they could have done better last year. oh, well.
…conversely, i think they got a way better haul for sherrill this year than they could have last year, so maybe it all comes out in the wash.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
Good god
What is with the freaking monsterously tall pitchers? I swear there are plans to turn our bull-pen into a really good pick-up basketball team.
b/c of vandy?
or is he a brickhouse?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they call up Hughes
seems like Mac has thought this one out quite a bit
"Get out the rye bread and mustard, Grandma, it is grand salami time!"
by WestcoastO'sFan on Aug 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
Roch sez:
Two names have been discussed as replacements for Huff on the 25-man roster: Michael Aubrey and John “Rhyne” Hughes.
Brandon Snyder is not a consideration, though he still could join the club next month when rosters expand.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Scott can't play 1b
sorry, but its not as easy as it looks, Huff just about did the job, but i am more than skeptical about scott, looks like we’ll be seeing a lot more WIGGGGGGGGYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
these pretzels are making me thirsty
wiggy cant play first base either
i doubt we will see a whole lot of either one, except Luke at first tonight, then they will call up Aubrey or Hughes.
"Get out the rye bread and mustard, Grandma, it is grand salami time!"
by WestcoastO'sFan on Aug 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott played 1B at OK State
It’s not like it’s a completely foreign position for him
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
honestly
first base is as easy as it looks
by NickMarkaces on Aug 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you're Jay Gibbons
or Adam Dunn
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
unless you
are Ty Wiggington
"Get out the rye bread and mustard, Grandma, it is grand salami time!"
by WestcoastO'sFan on Aug 17, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Our 1B in HS had the worst arm ever
He threw rockets, but without any sort of stabilizer. He actually hit a 3B coach in the head while throwing home once.
"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08
Is he interested in playing co-ed softball?
He would be an improvement over our SS
by wishEYEhadCRABS on Aug 17, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno what happened to him
If I go to my reunion, I’ll ask.
"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08
I like Huff a lot
regardless of his production this season. I’m glad he’s going to a contender.
I don’t expect to see too much Luke at 1b. My money would be on Wiggy or a call up.
I can't
believe they would take Huff over Scott assuming they were bothout there.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Scott would have cost them more
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Yeah
but we’re talking about going to the dollar store and choosing between two brands of crappy paper towels. You’re not getting Bounty no matter how bright the colors on the packaging are so what’s the difference in $1.00/roll and $1.50/roll?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
i can buy the dollar roll
and buy some gum with the 50 cents i saved. Economics 101. sort of
"Get out the rye bread and mustard, Grandma, it is grand salami time!"
by WestcoastO'sFan on Aug 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet you
can’t buy very much gum with 50 cents. Inflation 101.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
You can buy a pack of Big Red or Juicy Fruit for 30 cents
Or 35, I can’t remember
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
well
when $1.00/roll equals your 3rd best prospect, i’d imagine $1.50/roll is 50% better than that. Whats 50% better than your 3rd best prospect? Whatever it is, it sounds like alot for Luke Scott.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
If you're th Tigers, though
wouldn’t like to have Luke Scott, so that Luke Scott cannot hit against you?
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Let's pretend
the good stuff is $10.00/roll. No that 50 cents isn’t that much of a difference. I just thought as much as Scott killed the Tigers they’d pay the extra 50 cents. And he WAS their 3rd best prospect. Now he’s like 10th.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Two Fan Posts on the Huff Trade
I’m going to hide them and paste their info in here for all to see (and to cleanup the site a bit)
From Markakis and Wieters 4 Life:
To the Tigers for there 3rd best prospect going into the season (according to John Sickels) Brett Jacobson (RHP rated a B-)
This is according to multiple sources found over twitter
This is a very good return for 6 weeks of Huff… though we will probably have to give some money up
One example
RT @fantasyfix: #Tigers acquired Aubrey Huff from the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for RHP Brett Jacobson #roto
What do you think of the trade?
From Nick Markaces:
Aubrey Huff has been traded, reports Roch Kubatko. I can’t find this story anywhere else at all online, so I don’t know really what to make of it. How can someone like Huff clear waivers without us knowing? Although I was away for a while so maybe there was a story about it.
Anyway, apparently we received Brett Jacobson. Baseball reference lists his throwing arm as “Unknown”, not exactly an encouraging sign. He has a 3.74 ERA with 44 Ks and 17 BBs through 55.1 innings in relief for high-A Lakeland, a Detroit affiliate.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=jacobs001bre
http://masnsports.com/2009/08/huff-traded-orioles-lineup.html
Luke Scott is starting at first tonight. I guess this frees up alot more playing time for Pie.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I want to thanks Aubrey for a lot good memories last year
and some first half of this year. When he is good, he is a much more dependable run producer than Luke. now we need a sure bat, seriously…
This move
really hurts my MLB 09 playoff push. Especially with LUKE on the DL for another 2-3 weeks.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
It may hurt Detroit's playoff push as well
Although, Huff has the most RBI (72) on his new team. Cabrera has 70, Inge 65.
"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08
So they can turn Scott into a 1B but not Reimold?
Luuke: OF-411, LF-182, RF-118, DH-25, CF-5, 1B-4
Nolan: OF-370, 1B-1
idgi.
"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08
Luke played 1B in college, at least
Nolan has pretty much always been an OF
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Thanks for your time Huff.
I liked you last year, but I’m not unhappy to see you go right now. Hopefully you get hot and carry the Tigers into the playoffs.
hope to see this arm pretty soon.
If there is even a thought of using Luke as a longterm solution at 1B, that is a ridiculous idea. He’s going to be awful over there.
I think it's short term
No way Luke will be there long term .
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Aubrey has been just terrible for the O's this year
But he’s got pretty good numbers against the AL Central (this year and career), not to mention the pitching in the AL Central isn’t as great as the AL East. Plus if they have the luxury of having him bat mostly against RHP he could up his numbers.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Some video of Jacobson
It’s a couple years old, but I dig the socks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W4wvT-d_ns
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
We traded our 2nd best RBI man and last year's silver slugger for .... some guy
what happened to “grow the arms, buy the bats”?
tho i guess amber said Team will be in free agent market for a 1b in off season
not only that but Aub was one of three guys on Team with any personality ……. and Mora won’t be around for long either
Jonesie is going to have to pick up the slack because the rest of ’em are a bunch of milquetoasts
I know you love Aubrey
but he wasn’t good this year and not showing signs of picking it up. He has so many RBIs because he batted behind Markakis and Roberts who have OBPs of over .350. He has his lowest SLG since 2001.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
they also just hung him out to dry at 1b all year when he should have been at DH with occasional starts on defense.
just another talented free agent treated like shit by a shit organization.
hung him out to dry? Has he said once that he wanted to go back to DH-ing? Is there ANY indication that his terrible hitting this year is due to him having to play defense???
He had an awesome year last year, but do you honestly believe that if they had him at DH this year instead of 1B he would have repeated??? No chance. His skills have diminished. That’s what happens when you’re a one dimensional player who’s getting older and admittedly never works out.
Eh?
Sure was shitty the way they let him play in the field like he wants to & be an everyday starter batting cleanup when his numbers don’t deserve it. Then shipped him off to a contender when they knew they weren’t going to offer him arb.
That’s a giftwrapped parting season if I’ve ever seen one. Complete with bow.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
by OEutaw on Aug 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
For $8M he should be able to play some defense. He wasn’t signed to be a DH, even if that was his role last year. What would you have had them done? Who should have been playing first?
You love to say that people are in denial about Luke Scott but I think you’re in the same exact boat about Aubrey Huff. You talk about him being “another talented free agent.” In 2007 he was barely league average offensively, bad defensively, and didn’t earn the $4M he was paid. 2008 was an amazing year for him but totally fluky compared to his career trajectory.
I like Aubrey Huff and I feel that his time in Baltimore was a success thanks to his 2008. The Orioles did not do him wrong in any way; in fact they were the only team who even gave him any attention when he was a FA.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
To me this seems to be a precise example of "grow the arms, buy the bats"
You’re dumping an aging and no longer effective bat for a young power arm. Seems like exactly what he’s talking about.
I'll miss ya Huff
You were serviceable in a Jeff Conine sort of way.
Good luck to ya Aubrey
I have no problem with Luke at first, Pie in left and Reimold DHing. 3B will be the problem until Josh Bell is ready.
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves"-Jim Palmer
So long Aubrey, and thanks for all the fish. And the radio comments and the hotel room, too.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
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