Saturday Bird Droppings
by zknower on Aug 29, 2009 5:45 AM EDT
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O's rookie RHP Bergesen could be done for season - USATODAY.com
Orioles rookie pitcher Brad Bergesen has been slow to rebound from a shin injury and could be done for the season, Baltimore manager Dave Trembley acknowledged Friday.
PressBox: Young, Raw ... And Underworked
Press Box writer Phil Jackman thinks the Orioles plan to cut back on the innings of the rookies is ridiculous.
$1 Baltimore Orioles tickets on deck in September - Baltimore Business Journal:
For the 2nd consecutive year the O's are offering 500 $1 tickets per game in September and October. Guess that's what you do when you draw 13,000 on a Friday night in August.
Scott Kazmir traded from Rays to Angels | ajc.com
Tampa Bay receives left-hander Alex Torres and third baseman Matt Sweeney in the deal.
Tom Verducci - SI.com
Is the best active player to never make the postseason Brian Roberts or Michael Young?
Mr. October Still Hot Over "The Bronx Is Burning"
It's interesting that on the same day ESPN announces it will no longer produce made-for-TV movies or miniseries, we also hear that Reggie Jackson is still mad as hell over his portrayal in "The Bronx is Burning."
PressBox: MASN-Time Warner Battle Continues In N.C.
The Federal Communications Commission is finally prepared to deliberate on an issue that has plagued North Carolina baseball fans for two years: the Baltimore-based Mid-Atlantic Sports Network. MASN, which carries the Baltimore Orioles and the Washington Nationals, is continuing to wage war with Time Warner Cable to get carried in North Carolina, including the Raleigh-Durham area. Time Warner contends the region is geared more to the Atlanta and Charlotte sports media markets, and less so toward Baltimore and Washington.
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Phil Jackman is a moron
1. The 1960s were a pitcher’s decade, with the mound not being lowered until 1968.
2. The Dodgers in the 1960s were only outscored in 1968, when they were not a good team.
3. The Sandy Koufax he loves to cite had his arm ruined by overwork. He could’ve been even better if the Dodgers, like the rest of MLB, hadn’t been absolutely medieval in how they treated their pitchers.
4. Drysdale, his other favorite, was out of baseball at 32. Maybe the 270 innings he threw at 22 had something to do with it?
This was a lazy piece of hackwork barely even worthy of Bill Plaschke.
by pipkin on Aug 29, 2009 7:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not argueing Jackman's status
But the decline of pitchers is very curious. What about Jim Palmer and Nolan Ryan? Their careers were not ruined by overwork, they both had very long careers. Will we ever see someone pitch 20 complete games for the Orioles again?
I understand that the money warrants protection of the team’s investments. I just wonder if the current wisdom-that-be is preventing today’s pitchers from being all they can be.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
True
but for every Jim Palmer and Nolan Ryan, don’t you wonder about the dozens of pitchers who couldn’t handle that workload and were quickly burned through and done with baseball because of ridiculous arm injuries early in their careers?
Heck, Sandy Koufax only pitched for eleven years and retired at the ripe old age of 31 because his arm was in constant, total pain for the last two seasons of his career.
Lotta people go through life doing things badly. Racing's important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
Palmer had arm issues early on
Palmer did have a long successful career pitching without limits. But he also had some serious arm issues when he was younger. He missed most of the 1967 season and all of the 1968 season. That’s not something I want to happen with our current group of young guys. Especially when I think we can make significant improvements over the next two seasons with them.
Also, if Bergesen is out all year
Means I made it to his debut and also to the game that ended his season. I swear, Bergesen has broken a trans-sports record for the ratio of length of injury and time it takes to get your injured butt off the field of play. He’s been gone for about five weeks now, and it took him like 3 seconds or less to get into that dugout.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
Kazmir to the angels
Simply awesome… While I hate seeing the rays sorta throw in the towel, he’s a phn and mfy killer. His splits vs those 2 teams are offthe charts except for his w-l ratio (overrated IMO)
by GeoffreyA on Aug 29, 2009 8:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
and that makes the AL wlidcard a two horse race.
between PHN and the Rangers
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
rays actually aren't out of it by any means
i think they can plug sonnanstine into Rote and hope to get hot.
they’re only 4.5 out of WC………
by thewaywardO on Aug 29, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
My brother knows Matthew Sweeney, he went to school with him, and I have gone to the same elementry school as he did, in the same middle school he went to, and going to the same high school as he did
Nolan Reimold Rules
The Rangers signed Ryan Freel to a minor league deal
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
how many teams has that stiff played for this year?
o’s, royals, cubs, now rangers? am i missing one?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 29, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
he's an uber journey man!
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Time Warner sucks
actually, time warner can @$#%## my &&#%$#$. living in raleigh for the past 2 years, i have been illegally deprived of watching my o’s, and it’s all bullshit. time warner has already lost 2 appeals in legislation and still refuses to carry masn simply becuase they feel they’ll lose out on their own sports-net channels. trust me, this is criminal. so i’ve boycotted time warner, but unfortunately, my house has too many trees so i can’t get satellite, so now i’m stuck watching all games via espn gamecast or whatever. simply no way to watch a game. i hope time warner get’s itself seriously…corrected.
"If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?" - Will Rogers
Sorry about the trees
I knew TWC was going to pull this stunt back in 2007, so I got DirecTV in the fall of 2006 and I haven’t had to miss a game or pay a cable bill.
(I’m in Greensboro, btw)
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
anyone going to watch the little leaguers today?
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
I got a bocce ball tournament, and weather permitting, the O's game to go to tonight.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
bocce seems like a very.. uh..unique sport.
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Its great
especially if you are a 50+ year old italian man with “connections”. A NJ tradition!
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
i prefer curling
no i seriously like curling
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
If anyone can keep us updated on the NC Time Warner thing
it’d be much appreciated. Thats my future home and I’m not going til I get to watch O’s games without shelling out 200 bucks to extra innings.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
It wouldn't matter if you did pay $200
Since NC is “Orioles territory”, they black the Orioles out on Extra Innings (as well as the Nationals and Braves). I know it sounds dumb, but they don’t care if the channel they are on is available for our area or not. If your ZIP code is in the team’s TV market, it’s blacked out.
Just get DirecTV and be done with it. MASN comes in just fine with Orioles games down here.
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
I'm confused about Bergy
Now, I don’t know much about baseball injuries, and admittedly have only had softballs by my hs team hit sharply to me and not baseballs by major leaguers, but… I thought it was just a bruise on his leg? A bad bruise, yes, but there was no fracture… right? Correct me if I’m wrong. The USAToday story does not clarify. Basically I’m asking what is the holdup? Does it take months for that kind of bruise to heal?
Oh...
“bone bruise,” that sounds horrible. Didn’t realize that’s what it was. Ugh I can’t believe we might not see him til next year…
Btw wayword, I really like your blog. Just discovered it a few days ago.
bone bruise does sound painful
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He said
it was the worst pain he’s felt in his life.
A ball traveling about 90 mph hitting the shin is not something I like to think about.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i just winced at the thought of it
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I like your blog too.
I’ve even slipped more than once and referred to the Orioles as “team.” I don’t know if that’s like a personal copyright or anything.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i discovered it when andy ratner wrote that article a while back
about O’s blogs.
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I know rght
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention
once it heals, he still has to get back to pitching form
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
didnt you read the article?
Phil Jackman- writing for Press Box (the ultimate authority in sports writing), would argue that bergesen is being held back b/c MacPhail/Trembley don’t want him to get overworked… his leg is probably fine, I saw him bike riding w/ Guthrie through the inner harbor last week.
Seriously though, Guthrie riding his little bmx trick bike in his affliction shirt, mesh shorts and ipod blasting (playing Nsync) is a sight to see, no one even notices him riding home after games
Earl:"I'm going back to the dugout to check my rule-book!" Umpire:"Earl, I have one right here." Earl:"That's no good, I don't read Braille."
Haha really?
How much of that about Guthrie is true? I.e. does he really listen to Nsync? Haha I wish I lived in Baltimore so I could see the O’s out and about.
I think on the Q & A things in Orioles magazines, he's kinda pulling our horses.
“Where are you from and why is it the best?”
“Oregon – Nike”
really, Guts?
Reminds me of “melting pot” stare stare
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
my answer
Maryland- Under Armour
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
oh man
Fuck them all. They are all actively trying to destroy sports uniforms.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Aug 29, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
True that shit
Nike headquarters out here, cheap nike stuff.
"Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me," he said. "I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out."
by WestcoastO'sFan on Aug 30, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to believe
Jeremy Guthrie wears Affliction shirts. Next thing you know, he’ll tell me he wears Ed Hardy jeans. Not gonna believe it.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
I saw Guts walking to the stadium once
He totally could have been wearing an affliction shirt. It definitely had that look to it.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
i saw guts walking into wrigley
got his autograph!
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a couple days old but I have to share, I'm sure many of y'all saw it already
From The Sun
Adam Jones stood in front of his locker Thursday, doing his best to keep his obvious frustrations from boiling over. But every time he took a bite of his granola bar, it felt like a small window into his mind-set. He didn’t eat it as much as attack it, taking vicious, angry bites between answers to questions from reporters.
that's awesome
and kinda strange
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The last sentence cracks me up.
I’m picturing Adam tearing apart a granola bar with this evil look on his face.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
Grrr
Must eat granola bar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Last night's highlights are posted in the Fan Shots
thanks IHeartMASN!
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
IHM is awesome!
"Hey ump, how about a warning? Sure. Watch out you don't get killed". -Moonlight Graham talking to an umpire after two straight pitches at his head
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Aug 29, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone drinking yet?
I got a 6 pack of Flying Dog, Amber Lager.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
nope but i've got a homebrewed oktoberfest chillin in the fridge
as well as a magic hat seasonal (amber ale)
by twistedlogic on Aug 29, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
heineken?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 29, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone see Luke's interview on the post-game show last night?
Apparently he’s wearing a cup now when he plays the infield (and wasn’t wearing one before).
I guess the adage “baseball is a game of adjustments” really is true.
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
Did anyone here next Saturdays game has been moved to 4pm?
I was watching the Cubs-Mets game on Fox and they were promoting next weeks game and they had the Orioles and the Rangers game listed as one of the games they would show at 4pm.
Since the other games listed were Boston-Chicago and Giants-Brewers I’m guessing that the Orioles and Rangers will only be shown in the Baltimore and Dallas markets. This sucks for those of us outside those TV markets.
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
And for some of us in them
Fuck you, Comcast for carrying DC and Harrisburg, but not Baltimore channels in my area
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Lineups (Roch)
For the Orioles:
Brian Roberts – 2B
Cesar Izturis – SS
Adam Jones – CF
Nick Markakis – RF
Nolan Reimold – LF
Matt Wieters – DH
Melvin Mora – 3B
Ty Wigginton – 1B
Chad Moeller – C
Chris Tillman – RHP
For the Indians:
Sizemore – CF
Cabrera – SS
Choo – DH
Peralta – 3B
Valbuena – 2B
LaPorta – LF
Marte – 1B
Shoppach – C
Gimenez – RF
Sowers – LHP
Matty Matt’s batting DH again. And I am most pleased to see Mora back batting 7th.
And ADAM’S BACK YAY!!!
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