That’s pretty disturbing.

I’m at a lack of words.

apparently thats what i’m supposed to say in this thread.

the whole age fiasco?? So the guy is an old juiced liar…nice!!

about the thing with raffy and miggy’s wife, haven’t you?

got to find the email hang on

It seems like anybody is willing to admit for attribution that they’re sure there’s this kind of pitch tipping going on somewhere in baseball, but they “don’t know” who.

Color me skeptical that no one actually knows. I bet they were willing to recall some vague frustrations for the reporter but not actually dime on anybody. Sounds like some other problem with baseball we might name, huh?

So I was grabbing a beer with this kid on my soccer team last night who worked at ESPN for the past 3 years as a fact checker for Baseball Tonight, and he told me a few great stories. He went out for drinks with the whole squad; Kruck, Ravich, etc. and they were all sharing juicy stories from the big leagues, and Kruck drops this absolute gem. Apparently Raphael Palmiero was notorious for nailing his teammates’ wives, it was sorta like a game to him. So the reason he got shipped from the Rangers to the O’s is that he simply slayed half of the Rangers’ wives. So he gets to the O’s where Miguel Tejada is the big man on the team, and I guess everyone on the team would just shoot eachother up with whatever supplement they were taking. Both Palmiero and Tejada took B9 (which is legal), and they would routinely inject eachother. So after a while, Palmiero starts nailing Tejada’s wife, and Tejada finds out. So rather than fight him or whatever, the next time Tejada goes to inject B9 into Palmiero, he fills the syringe with steroids and injects it into Palmiero. Palmiero subsequently fails his drug test, and his career was over. Palmiero tried to tell the media that Tejada injected him with the steroids against his knowledge, but no one in the media/general public bought it cuz Palmiero seems like such a doosh, but it was totally true. This is why Palmiero has never been called back to trial for perjury for lying to Congress because he never actually knowingly took steroids. Pretty crazy, right?

I tend to be very cynical about players and steroid use. In baseball and every other sport, athletes are always quick to come up with some kind of excuse or another for a positive test or a credible report. Someone spiked my drink, or it was from a cold medicine, or it was in my toothpaste (really), or it was over-the-counter supplements, or I didn’t know they were steroids, or I tried it once to recover from an injury and have stopped since, etc. etc. Each one maybe plausible (or not) individually, but eventually you realize they’re all making stuff up. In fact, one of the few positives of the baseball steroid scandal is that a small number of the players have actually admitted that yes, they took them, and knew they were taking them.

Having said all that, the one player that I sort of believed was Palmeiro. There’s something about his story, the vehemence with which he argues it, and the circumstances around it, that makes it more believable. If nothing else good comes out of all of this, I hope that it turns out that Palmeiro was clean after all.

Baseball really isn’t fun at all.

but to me it doesn’t rank with PED use or gambling, etc.

I mean, John Kruk once told a story about how he got his last hit, to secure a lifetime .300 AVG, because Scott Erickson agreed to groove him one…did he get flak for that or did people say “oh, Krukker, lulz.”

I just don’t see how this is WORSE than what we already know about Tejada…not entirely anyway. I can certainly see the “integrity of the game” argument, etc etc…

…for years I watched this fucking guy not make routine plays on grounders and wondered how the fuck he could play shortstop with such limited range. But now I read this.

I don’t know. I’m a little torn. He was such a crappy SS while on the O’s that it’s almost hard to believe him dogging it so often was actually intentional. But after so many things coming out about this jerk, he is unquestionably a scumbag. Good riddance.

Deadspin’s Tommy Craggs doesn’t buy it.

The specifics in that article, specifically with guys going out on the record, is pretty alarming. I can’t imagine he was pitch tipping in Baltimore because the pitchers were so bad without any help from Miggy. But how common is pitch tipping anyway (not to be naive)? And was TBat dropping foul balls on purpose while an Oriole? Given Batista’s range, it’s kind of surprising he got to many foul balls to drop.

I just realized my tattoo is the same as your avatar, only it’s not waving. What a nice logo.

That would be awesome and well deserved if this is actually true. I have my doubts. Pretty shoddy story if you ask me. Totally relying on rumors and bits and pieces of stories. I thought they were going to do an advanced statistical analysis of how Tejada’s “friends” do against his teams compared to other teams.