Gregg Zaun Traded
by LenaO on Aug 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT
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PrintPer Roch Kubatko on MASNSports.com, Zaun has been traded to the Rays for a player to be named later.
The Orioles have traded backup catcher Gregg Zaun to the Tampa Bay Rays for a player to be named later.
Zaun had to pass through waivers before he could be dealt.
Zaun signed a one-year deal over the winter with a team option for 2010, returning him to the organization that introduced him to the majors in 1995. He batted .244 with four homers and 13 RBIs in 56 games.
The Orioles will call up Chad Moeller from Triple-A Norfolk to take his place. Moeller, removed from the roster when Matt Wieters joined the Orioles, is batting .203 with 10 RBIs in 35 games.
Moeller can mentor the young pitchers, and assist in Wieters' development, as Zaun did.
Unlike the Chad Bradford trade to Tampa Bay, the Orioles apparently will receive a player in return for Zaun. This isn't expected to be a cash transaction.
http://masnsports.com/2009/08/the-first-post-deadline-trade.html
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Yay! I never liked "ZAUN"...
…but I suppose he started to hit better after The Future came up. At least he goes to a contending team. I like Moeller, but it seems like we might not get much offense out of the fellow. It would be good to get a player back this time : )
-Thanks for posting
ZAUN, at least we'll always have those chicken enchiladas
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
whaaaaaa?
You didn’t like Zaun? Wow. That hurt MY feelings and I’m not even Zaun
by OldBay83 on Aug 7, 2009 3:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How can you not like ZAUN? He's AWESOME. I'm gonna miss him. :( But at least we'll have his website!
GreggZaun.com FTW!
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
Rays fan base wanted Zaun for a long time
this should work out both ways
by BrendanHarrisLives on Aug 7, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
Give me Longoria or give me death.
David Price would also be acceptable.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
I see Carlos Pena is striking out a lot and hitting .230
Also, Reid Brignac totally isn’t working out for them.
"I don't like to be here and just thinking about in October I'm going to go on vacation " -- Melmo moaning about being benched when he's hitting .256/.321/.330
MLBTR says
That we get a PTBNL or cash. So it could just be a cash.
Guthrie is probably weeping while riding his bike since he did so much better with ZAUN than anybody else for some reason.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
He did pretty well with Moeller in the pre-Wieters era, too.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
I've always been a Zaun fan
So I’m a little sad, but this kind of marginal move just makes too much sense not to do, even if the player we get is organizational depth. I’d guess it’s also a nice thing for Zaun to be involved in a playoff hunt, even if Tampa is the dark horse in that race.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Aug 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
I'm no fan of the Roch commenters
But it’s almost funny reading their reactions. Many are up in arms over the impending “fire sale”. One brave soul with an actual sense of humor remarked that ZAUN is still scheduled to catch Sunday, since Trembley is apparently so inflexible about these matters.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on Aug 7, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
me too!
those commenters are the worst. but I can’t stop!
by brooklynlovesorioles on Aug 7, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still convinced they are the same person.
I mean, they say the exact same things. What are the odds?
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
Anyone gonna front page this?
Anyway, I hope we didn’t give him up for jack.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
The real question is whether any mods are around
Stacey and Duck are out of town, SC’s still getting married or something, and I assume ZK is dining with Scorsese.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
I can write stuff on the front page
But as far as I know, front paging other people’s articles is beyond my POWER.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Scorcese canceled, I'm trying to line up FFC now
…and I am covering all weekend, just probably not going to be able to actually watch the games.
"The single best thing any rebuilding manager can do, ever, is trade a relief pitcher in late July for a couple of solid prospects."
— Rob Neyer, July 30, 2009
So, what are the stipulations to a PTBNL? Is there a list of approved players agreed upon by both teams? Is there an option for one team or the other to take X number of dollars instead?
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
I am pretty sure you have it
A player from the list or cash. Sometimes its a guy who was drafted in the past year who hasn’t been with the organization for the required year yet.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Aug 7, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Alex Rios
was placed on waivers and claimed by an unidentified team.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Zaun on the trade, again per Roch:
“I didn’t expect to get traded. I figured once the deadline came and went, I was going to be with the Orioles, which was fine for me because I was enjoying my job, what we signed up to do, which was play a couple times a week and be there for Wiety (Matt Wieters) when he had questions, and hopefully try to show him the way a little bit. But I’m going to Tampa, and I have a home there, so it’ll be easier for me to move right back into my house and play for a contender. It’s definitely going to be a shot of tonic, that’s for sure. I’m just excited that I’m going to be on a team that’s playing meaningful games in August and September. And it makes it even better that I get to go live in my house.”
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
I find myself calling him Wheaties. Makes sense. It flows, it you will.
"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.
Finally!
O Nina and LenaO in the same thread…for the longest time I wasn’t sure if I was imagining that there were two people with similar names.
maybe this is the key
what we signed up to do, which was play a couple times a week and be there for Wiety
“A couple times a week” is too much. There is no reason, no reason WHATSOEVER, for Wieters to take more than one day off a week. The less time he plays, the longer his development takes.
People have been wondering why DD was playing ZAUN so often. Maybe it had to do with this agreement between him and Gregg.
I have no doubt that Moeller will only be getting the call once a week.
"The single best thing any rebuilding manager can do, ever, is trade a relief pitcher in late July for a couple of solid prospects."
— Rob Neyer, July 30, 2009
Wieters playing five games every other week doesn't bother me
But Zaun was getting two games, sometimes three, every single week was a bit aggravating.
Wieters is probably pretty overwhelmed right now considering that he is a rookie, and giving him six games every single week may have been a bit much.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
eh
I thought for sure Zaun was gonna be back for next year, he was doing a good job. Kinda sucks to see him go. At least hes heading to a comfortable situation in Tampa.
I'm not sure I get this move
Zaun is fairly cheap, he was a decent player when playing, Wieters benefited from his mentoring, and we’ll need a backup catcher next year anyway.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pretty much indifferent, but why move him unless the return is going to actually help us?
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Eh, Moeller isn’t much different and there should be plenty of similar players available in the offseason
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
I'm not sure they're that similar
Zaun’s career OPS is 100 points higher than Moeller’s (its like 730, higher than I expected). This season their diff is over 100.
When I first heard about the trade I was a little disappointed, but then I figured that it meant M-dub would play more—which has basically been confirmed—and thats good.
Now, we didn’t necessarily need to lose Zaun for Man-Child to play more, but…shrug. Maybe we’ll get something for him, BP arm or something.
Yeah
Zaun is a lot better than Moeller. Not that we shouldn’t have done the deal, but despite his terrible start this year, Zaun is usually a pretty decent offensive catcher, which is why Tampa wanted him in the first place.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Aug 8, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
yup...
i mean, he had a couple years w/ the jays where he exhibited a little pop, but he’s always had pretty solid on-base skills for a catcher. his 90 OPS+ this year was handily better than razor’s 79 w/ the reds (also the 76 posted by Wieters, but eyes on the prize, people…)
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Aug 11, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
O Man
Rick Dempsey is gonna go Ape Shit
by No More Steroids Please on Aug 7, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
NOT THE Z-MAN!!!
R.I.P. Rick Dempsey’s Nephew Gregg ZAUN, You will be missed.
Now what excuse will I have to say “Bring your Z-GAME!!!” while I’m at the game?
"Chicken Soup. The only way to fight a cold." ~ Batman
Other potential Z-Gamers
http://camdencrazies.com/2009/08/07/bring-your-z-game/
This was one of my first concerns too.
thought this was the gamethread huh?
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
Oh no, we're losing Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-ZAUN...
You woke me up for this?!? Well, no hard felines, so long and thanks for the fish, etc. I don’t know how much mentoring Z-Z-Z was actually giving Wheaties, but Moeller will certainly be, um, another point of view.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Anything we can do
to help the Rays keep either the Sawx oy the Yanks out of the playoffs. ChadBrad helped out last year. Hopefully ZAUN can do the same.
Matt Wieters can get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop in under one lick.
WAT
I don’t get it. I really don’t. We signed Zaun to be a mentor to young Wieters, he’s cheap (although backup catchers are a dime a dozen, not $1M/year), he supposedly was excited about playing that role, he was good enough for a backup catcher, so I really don’t get this deal.
I felt the same about the Chad Brad trade last year, a ~$2M salary dump.
Maybe he’s taking the blame for Guts’ HR parade?
"I don't like to be here and just thinking about in October I'm going to go on vacation " -- Melmo moaning about being benched when he's hitting .256/.321/.330
Jesus, who cares?
The guy was a lousy player whose presence on the Orioles makes literally no difference.
If a team wants to give up a player or some money or a bunch of scuffed up baseballs for him, it would be insane not to take them up on it.
LOL at this image from the SBN TB front page
"I don't like to be here and just thinking about in October I'm going to go on vacation " -- Melmo moaning about being benched when he's hitting .256/.321/.330
MHHHmmmm Take a whifff
"You don't EVEN KNOW who Nick Markakis is"- .....My 4 year old daughter to another kid.
"I'm a Country Boy"- ......Alan Jackson
does it smell good??
"You don't EVEN KNOW who Nick Markakis is"- .....My 4 year old daughter to another kid.
"I'm a Country Boy"- ......Alan Jackson
Glad to see you go Zauny. Nothing personal
You did your job here in Baltimore. Your reward is to be in a pennant race in Aug/Sep and live in your own crib. What more would you want?
"Losing teams find ways to beat themselves" Jim Palmer
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