Monday Bird Droppings
by Camden Chat on Sep 14, 2009 5:45 AM EDT
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PrintTeams keep tabs on young pitchers' arms - USATODAY.com
"Clubs feel that if you overtax them, you increase the possibility of injury," Baltimore Orioles President Andy MacPhail says. "It's like an exercise regimen. Your progression jumps to what you can take. The increase in (pitchers') workload should be progressive." -zk
O's close to decision on Matusz -- baltimoresun.com
The Orioles are expected to make a decision on the status of Brian Matusz Monday and it appears that they are leaning toward shutting down the left-hander following the best start of his young career. -zk
Yankees Upset That Ump Won't Call All Close Pitches Their Way Like The Other Umps Do - LoHud.com
The Yankees defeated the Baltimore Orioles 13-3 Sunday. But there were angry emotions in the clubhouse afterward due to another incident involving umpire Marty Foster, the second in just over two months. -zk
Dave Trembley's Video Journal with Roch - MASNsports.com
With MASNsports.com's Roch Kubatko in New York the same weekend as the Orioles, Roch sat down with the O's skipper for a unique edition of Dave Trembley's video journal from the visiting clubhouse in Bronx. -duck
O, say can you see a Camden Yards controversy? - delmarvanow.com
The naysayers who feel disrespect when people shout "O" probably shouldn't attend any live sporting events, because other teams do their own thing when the anthem is played, like when Chicago Blackhawks fans cheer continuously during the song, or when people down in Atlanta yell "Brave" when it winds down. -duck
Minor production delights Orioles - The Capital
"I think this year has gone very, very well," Stockstill said. "I'm very proud of our players and staff. The players who went to the major leagues were almost all ready to compete immediately at that level. I really feel like it showed that what we've been doing the last several years in not rushing players has made a difference." -duck
Daniel and Paco Figueroa playing for Spain at Baseball World Cup - Mister Baseball
Spain’s baseball playing twin brothers, Daniel and Paco Figueroa, spent last season with the Bowie Baysox of the AA Eastern League, and are property of the Baltimore Orioles. They are so alike they even spent the same time on the disabled list last season, but with different injuries. Both have been impressive at the plate thus far, with Daniel going 3-8 and Paco 3-7 in Spain’s 1-1 start. -duck
Hoes, Avery expected to move to Frederick in 2010 - MASNsports.com
At just 19, the pair played to rave reviews in the South Atlantic League. Neither hit .300, nor did the O's expect them to. They just made solid, steady progress which should lead to them advancing to Frederick as 20-year-olds in 2010. -duck
Shorebird Jacob Julius loves playing baseball for a living - The News and Tribune
"It has been an awesome experience. I’ve wanted to do this since I was little," the former Providence standout said. "One of the coolest things is when I come home or I’m at the ballpark and kids ask for my autograph. That’s pretty neat." -duck
Shorebirds fans flocked to Perdue in '09 season -delmarvanow.com
Despite bad weather that robbed them of 10 home games this season, the Delmarva Shorebirds reported an increase in average attendance. Officials for the Baltimore Orioles' affiliate said Friday that the total attendance was 214,575 people in 2009, an average of 3,576 fans per game. -duck
Find A New Career At The Ballpark - OurSports Central
The Bowie Baysox will host the 15th Central Maryland Career Fair at Prince George's Stadium on Friday, Sept. 18, from 10 a.m. - 3 p.m. The biannual career fair is sponsored by The Pennysaver and presented in conjunction with Prince George's County Economic Development Corporation and Maryland Job Services. Admission for career-seekers is free! -duck
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Joe Girardi is not just a douchebag. And not just a professional douchebage.
He is a professional major league douchebag. Gosh, how odd that he should find gainful employ with the St**nbr*nn*r family, which consists of giant egotistical douchebags from top to bottom.
Anyway, it’s unfortunate that Joe could only be tossed for one game. And not one year. Or one lifetime.
As in, mine.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
ah, its a beautiful morning...
The O’s took a series from the Yanks (who cares what happened in the final game anyways?), the G-Men take one from the Skins (keep trashing on the Giants all you want guys), N.O. wins (my gf’s team), GB wins (my bro-in-laws teams), Ravens win (my 2nd team), R.U. won saturday as the Tom Savage era officially began… just a great weekend. Take away the cowboys and eagles wins and it would have been PERFECT.
Well Dave, I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to
get some money down on it. Which I hope you did. I mean, a great weekend is one thing. A great betting weekend is another.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
There was football yesterday?
What up?
by snakethejake on Sep 14, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's nice to know that the Saints can put up 45 points on a bad team
Give Brees 3-4 decent/mediocre receivers and he’ll make you dizzy.
Their D: still needs work.
Also, Federer is good at tennis.
"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08
by CoachOfEarl on Sep 14, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
45 points against the lions: great
27 points scored by the lions: not so great.
they get the eagles and jets next. should be fun to watch at least.
Saints are running into the Eagles at a good time (for the Saints, I mean). If McNabb doesn’t play (I think the smart thing to do is to keep him out until after their week 4 bye, rather than rush him back and have this be a lingering injury — I think the Eagles can squeak by the Chiefs w/Kolb or Vick at QB), I just don’t think the Eagles can put up enough points to beat the Saints.
The Eagles’ best chance is probably to try to grind out clock with Westbrook and McCoy and avoid a shootout with the Saints.
Without McNabb, it’ll be the interesting matchup of great defense/bad offense vs. great offense/bad defense.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
It'll def be a game to watch
I should have said that the Saints special teams need work. I’m looking at you, Reggie Bush. Catch it, then hold on to it.
The Saints do have an improved D, and are starting to show a running game, which will make Brees that much more dangerous. Still waiting on ball control though. If the Eagles can strip the ball effectively they’ll have a good shot at the game.
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
I didnt get to see the game
but friends told me it was more the special teams’ fault then the defense’s. NO is one of my fave teams by default (my GF is from NO and is a Saints fan, and it doesnt go against my Giants fandom, so I go with it), but this week i’ll be rooting extra hard for them. I might even let a “who dat?” fly (thought probably not).
C’mon, you can WHO DAT when we play beat the Eagles!
I think we discussed this before, but my gf is from NJ and was raised a NYY/NJG fan. Bizarro!
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
even stranger
my gf was a nyy fan when we first met. she’s since seen the light. However, you may be right. This convo DOES seem somewhat similar.
How about a “Who is that?” instead? Its just not in my north eastern blood…
How about "WHOZAT"
The NOLA accent is heavily influenced on Brooklyn Italian BTW.
Who is that = unacceptable :/
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
On the anthem...
it was written in Baltimore for crab cake’s sake. If we want to add a little extra emphasis on the “O” that’s not disrespect.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
by rebop on Sep 14, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1000
And I never let anyone forget it!
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 14, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i didnt know that about the blackhawks
youtubed it, pretty awesome
"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel
by swilhelmross on Sep 14, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Dallas Starts do something similar as well
I’m not sure which ‘star’ they do it on though
So why....
do they use the YES network video feed for the highlights – even on the official Oriole site?
The Rays suck
They’ve lost 11 in a row! I didn’t even notice that until now. They are totally falling apart.
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
Not to be the arrogant Orioles fan
but the most they’ve lost in a row this year is 6.
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
thus bolstering the arguement for more parity in MLB....
sure. a small market team can come out of nowhere and be good for a year…but they cant stay that way.
salary cap in ’10!
Fuck salary caps.
If you own a sports team, you are a billionaire, and can afford to pay your players what they’re actually worth.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Before you respond
Let me clarify that I’m not necessarily for a salary cap – I just don’t think that the “come on billionaires just pay them what they’re worth!” argument really works. I mean owners buy baseball teams not just to win but as a profit-generating business, so they aren’t just going to dip into their pockets to field a winning team if it means the team is going to lose (them) money. Teams like the Yankees and Red Sox and Dodgers (as well as a bunch of others) make so much money off of media, tickets, marketing, etc that they can afford to just pay players what they are worth, but lots of teams don’t and can’t.
i agree with you
the salary cap is in place to keep the large market teams from buying all of the best players (remind you of any teams?). i’m not incredibly behind a cap, but i think it would have a huge benefit to teams like the orioles and the nationals (although only about 8 people watch the nationals anyways).
by twistedlogic on Sep 14, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
they're not actually worth that.
hello? AJ burnett.
just because some yahoo decides to pay you a bajillion dollars doesn’t mean you’re worth it. you’re worth what the market will bear, but there is no market because most teams can’t afford for their entire payroll what the yankees spend in one offseason.
"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo
The Rays will compete again next year. If they were in any other division, they’ll be in playoffs.
"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"
This
And they were holding their own until Pena got hurt
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Yeah
They were competitive for most of this year and took several hits. It can happen to any team, really. A few years ago when the Red Sox missed the playoffs they fell apart at the end also. They never lost 11 in a row (to do that involves luck really) but they had a number of 5 or 6 game losing streaks.
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
What where the hits?
I’m not saying they didn’t have a number of injuries that doomed them. I just don’t recall them having anything out of the ordinary – until Pena got beaned. I thought they’ve been relatively healthy.
The Rays pitching is down this year, compared to 2008. At this point in the season, they’ve nearly given up as many runs (664) as all of last year (671). Both the starting and relief pitching is seeing a fallback from 2009 (when they had good years). I think they are about 5 games below their pythogorean projection. I just don’t see excuses for the Rays this year. Maybe the pitching will pick up next year, and they get some more power (Burrell has been a flop).
You don’t know the impact of this stuff, but reports from the team say the clubhouse was unhappy with the Kazmir trade. The word was the players felt that management was giving up.
It’s tough competing with the yankees and red sox.
the Rays
They haven’t lost anyone for the year other than Pena, to my knowledge, but early in the year they lost Aki. Zobrist of course is having a career year but if Aki had stayed healthy he could be having that career year in right field where the two Gabes have been platooning all year. Pat Burrell has had nagging injuries for a lot of the year. Carl Crawford hasn’t missed many games but has been beaten up for awhile which obviously hurts his production.
Non injury related, BJ Upton has been pretty much a disaster and no one can figure out why. He’s much better than he played this year and I don’t have any reason to think he won’t bounce back next year.
I don’t think that injuries and underachievement are excuses that a team should fall back on, but the fact is that it happens, and the team is still talented and will still be able to compete next year.
I’m certainly not saying that it’s easy competing with the Red Sox and Yankees. The Rays and certainly the Blue Jays in recent years would be playoff contenders in other divisions, especially in the NL. But to write the entire AL East off the way some people do drives me crazy.
The fact that they are 5 games BELOW their Pythagorean record doesn’t prove your point at all. That means they are better than their record shows.
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
The basic point is they don’t have much in the way of excuses this year. A player underachieving is no excuse. Seems we agree.
So what, give then their 5 games. They’re still way out of the playoffs. This team just didn’t perform at the same level as last year.
Side comment: I really find the argument “well, they’d be in the playoffs or contending if they were in another division” to be complete nonsense. They aren’t in another division. The Orioles will face the same mountain if they ever get good. I just hope we don’t have the same laments.
Side comment: I really find the argument "well, they’d be in the playoffs or contending if they were in another division" to be complete nonsense. They aren’t in another division.
Well, it’s nonsense in that it’s never going to happen. It’s true in that it holds some degree of intellectual sense or “truth” if you will (i.e., the Rays would do better in let’s say in the NL East). And it’s used to merely point out that a team is hampered by circumstances beyond their control. Obviously you can’t change that circumstance but that doesn’t distract from the veracity of the argument. There are going to be teams contending for the playoffs or go to the playoffs who are not a whole lot better than the Rays.
"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"
They were behind in the wild card race by about 5 or 6 games
when Pena got hit, and very unlikely to make the playoffs from that position.
Beyond their division location (AL East), I’m not trying to make any excuses for the Rays. They play in a hard division and they got battered around. They deserve to miss the playoffs. But I don’t agree with this notion that they’re a one hit wonder. Come September next year, I expect them to be within sniffing distance of the playoffs again. And I certainly believe that if they were in the NL, they still would be in the playoff hunt now and in the future.
"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"
So, Matusz is officially shut down
Big surprise. I think the ROY consideration played into it somewhat (as buzz generation for the team)
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
Seems like a good decision to me.
Let’s him go out on a high note with a lot of confidence and really not point at all in pushing our luck.
It makes sense to me
But it still bums me out just a little.
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
Hendrickson will replace him
barf. Hendo is one of the few half decent guys in the bullpen. Way to make us weaker on two fronts, O’s
http://masnsports.com/2009/09/so-who-replaces-matusz-in-the.html
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
Sure
He’s been my favorite since we signed him. Yes, above Tillman and Arrieta.
If I was manager, I would have done a split Matusz/Tillman start, 3-4IP each thing with their last few games, rather than a 6 man rotation or an early shutdown, just limit their innings without taxing the bullpen. I’d do a lot of weird things though.
"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz
About to head out to the game
Anyone know the lineup?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
Roch has it
Rays:
Bartlett DH
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Zobrist RF
Richard 1B
Zaun C
Iwamura 2B
Upton CF
Brignac SS
Price LHP
O’s
Brian Roberts 2B
Cesar Izturis SS
Nick Markakis RF
Nolan Reimold LF
Melvin Mora 3B
Matt Wieters C
Luke Scott DH
Ty Wigginton 1B
Jeff Fiorentino CF
Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08
that's what SHE said
ok, I’m really sorry for that one.
"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo
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