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Wieters discusses the walkoff (video)- MASNsports.com
Wieters was looking fastball, and he got one. "They gave me confidence to swing away and I was going to look for a fastball early and try to put a good swing on it, and I was fortunate enough that it carried out," he said. "It's a situation where you might bunt, but he gave me the sign to swing away and try and drive something. -zk

Hendrickson rejoins Orioles rotation Thursday - USATODAY.com
"He's been three guys in one," Orioles manager Dave Trembley said. "I think he really had to wear all three of those hats and he did a very nice job with it." Hendrickson will bring a 5-4 record and a 4.43 ERA into Thursday's game. He's back in the rotation because the Orioles have shut down rookie Brian Matusz. -zk

Reimold held out of starting lineup again | MLB.com: News
Manager Dave Trembley gave Nolan Reimold a day off on Tuesday and held him out of the starting lineup again on Wednesday, as the rookie deals with an Achilles injury. -zk

Rays' rookie starters will finish out year | MLB.com: News
The Rays rotation includes rookies Jeff Niemann, Wade Davis and David Price, but manager Joe Maddon doesn't believe any of them will be shut down before the end of the season. In fact, Joe Maddon thinks the Orioles are a bunch of p*ssies. Ok, not really. -zk

The Frederick News-Post Online - Frederick County Maryland Daily Newspaper
Brandon Waring, Caleb Joseph and Zach Britton have been to Camden Yards before, but Wednesday's trip was a special one for the three players who were with the Frederick Keys this year. They were there to be honored by the Orioles for their play this season. Also honored was Brian Matusz, who began the season with the Keys and was part of the Orioles rotation late this year. -zk

Waring happy he has O's attention -- baltimoresun.com
When he was traded to the Orioles organization in December as part of the Ramon Hernandez deal, Brandon Waring was hoping just to get noticed by his new employers. -zk

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Hoiles keeping busy - MASNsports.com
Have you ever wanted to go hunting with Chris Hoiles, Will Clark, Ben McDonald, and Jamie Walker? Here's your chance. -Stacey
More on this story from the York Daily Record, and from Hoiles' own website, HGGSports.com. I don't even hunt, but it looks totally sweeeeet.... -zk

Blount County (TN) eyed for multi-million dollar baseball, softball complex
Blount County might be getting a multi-million dollar baseball and softball complex which officials believe could attract a steady stream of tourists and tax dollars....Baseball, LLC hired Ripken Design in August to conduct a feasibility study. Ripken Design is retired Baltimore Orioles shortstop and third baseman Cal Ripken Jr.'s professional design and consulting firm, which specializes in the feasibility and design of amateur and professional sports facilities. -zk

IBAF Notes on 8th Day of Baseball World Cup - World Cup 2009 - Mister Baseball
Did you know there's a baseball World Cup going on right now? Neither did I. But there ya go....ORIOLES PROSPECTS LEADING THE WAY FOR PUERTO RICO, SPAIN: The Orioles have three players in this World Cup, and all three are making an impact for their respective countries. Daniel and Paco Figueroa are leading Spain in hitting and were key factors in Monday’s landmark win over Venezuela, while Puerto Rico’s Miguel Abreu is leading his team in hitting (.450, 7 runs scored three doubles). Paco Figeuroa leads the team with a .526 average, while Daniel is hitting at a .364 pace. -zk

Orioles catcher Parra handed 50-game ban
Baltimore Orioles minor league catcher Freuny Parra was suspended for 50 games on Wednesday after testing. Say g'bye to your career with the O's, Freuny. -zk

Boston Red Sox - Things falling into place for Red Sox - The Boston Globe
FINALLY. Ok, this one's personal. Dan Shaughnessy is a major douchebag. Has always been one. He's a crap journalist whose schtick is basically, "Say outrageous shit to sell papers". Kind of like the Glenn Beck of PHN. He's probably most famous for his inept column in 2005 bragging that the AL East was a "runaway" for the Red Sox (immediately afterwards, the Sox had a one of their classic swan dives: the Yankees surpassed them for the AL Crown, and although the Sox got the wild card, the White Sox swept them in the playoffs. Nice one, Dan), although he'd have you think it's for misty-eyed bullshit books he writes about the "mystique," or whatever.Should you be interested in more illustrations of what a hack he is, there's an entire blog devoted to how much he sucks.

Aaaaanyway, in classic form in the article above, Dan impersonates every douchebag Sox fan you've ever met and says

All of Boston’s other games are against teams that have quit: Orioles, Royals, Blue Jays, and Indians....The Orioles, meanwhile, are an annual disgrace. The Red Sox are 13-2 against their Baltimore cousins this year. The Sox hit five home runs in the first three innings of a 10-0 win over the Orioles last week. The Sox were laughing at the O’s. Think there will be much resistance in Camden Yards this weekend?

I know, right? What an A-HOLE. I guess somehow taking 2 of 3 from the Yankees and another 2/2 (so far) from the Rays counts as "quitting"?

I know that a sweep of the Red Sox this weekend might be a little much to ask, but I do hope that some player, somewhere, posts this article on the bulletin board at OPACY. Because that's just a beyond-dickish thing to say.

And even if the players never see the article, at least you have. So, if you're bored at work today, you might want to send this ass-clown an email at dshaughnessy@globe.com, and let him know what you think of his scribbling. You know, if you're in the mood, and you have a strong stomach. -zk

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argh!!!

that annoying piece of shit!!! shaunghaussasssasy. But for the most part.. based on how we play the Red Sox, he’s right. And until we beat the Red Sox, we are a disgrace.

by Y Not on Sep 17, 2009 5:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but their OUR disgrace.

Only we’re allowed to say those things.

by kba26 on Sep 17, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

What kind of “journalist” writes “The Sox were laughing at the O’s”??? What an asshat.

by O Nina on Sep 17, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if true, it just confirms that the Sox are a bunch of douchebags.

It’s one thing to say the O’s suck, but ask Matt Weiters if they’ve quit.

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on Sep 17, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i beofe e

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 17, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that's Staciey's job

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except after C, Titov!

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Ж, of course

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D’oh. Sorry. Please don’t hit me with a lightning bolt, Mr. Wieters.

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on Sep 17, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nd until we beat the Red Sox, we are a disgrace.

Dude, a lot of teams have lost games to the Red Sox. Since when did they become the litmus test for determining a disgraceful team.

"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"

by birdman on Sep 17, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woops, sorry didn't see this reply..
Dude, a lot of teams have lost games to the Red Sox. Since when did they become the litmus test for determining a disgraceful team.

We haven’t just lost to them this year. We’ve lost to them last year. And the year before. ETC. And we’ve been no-hit by them (recent x2). And we’ve been out-attendance’d every time they’re in town. And some of our losses have been particularly painful (Mother’s Day Massacre) compared to others. And they’re in our division.

I know you’re a loyal fan, but I’m surprised you can justify defending the Orioles game against the Red Sox.

by Y Not on Sep 18, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you guys all take a look at Wiggy's face in that picture?

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We all looked, then broke ranks and ran. Some were shouting "Beelzebub!" or something, I couldn't make it out.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looks like that sometimes

He really probably doesn’t get high though.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 17, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't he like

 kind of “good kid” from down south? If anything, odds are he is a drinker.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 17, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alcohol!

accepted in society!

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 17, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're being sarcastic, right?

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so true!

+1

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just my 2 cents

I know this is pissing in the wind because people will never wise up… But just ignore the truly inconsequential blowhards and they shrivel away due to a lack of audience. As long as people get all riled up, they have an audience and that’s all they want. Write the guy a note and you let him know this column has been successful. Of all people, a sports writer is very inconsequential and easy to ignore.

p.s.: You forgot to also add some MSBNC type blowhard to balance out Beck (just helping you balance out your biases).

by drj on Sep 17, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

p.s.: there’s a difference between being totally insane (Beck) and being a blowhard (like some of the MSNBC blowhards you’re probably thinking of).

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is something to be said for taking the high road...

if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all….BUT then again sometimes you have to take the greater good into account, put yourself out there, sacrifice, do something. The fact is ignoring the blowhard such as shaugnessy, or preston for instance, will not cause him to shrivel away. And replying to him will only cement his position as a mouthpiece with an audience. BUT, a justified piece of hate mail hurts. And it just might help to press the man into an unhappy state of reflectance and self-loathing. He should be reminded that no one likes him for the greater good of society. ;)

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in MA

I won a years long battle with my wife to cancel a subscription to the Globe (they finally made it easy for her). I don’t read the guy. But when these pieces come out, I just assume he’s a mouthpiece for “Red Sox Nation”, which is his intended audience. He must be a hit, as they keep him in business. They must, in general, think along the same lines as him because he’s certainly stayed relevant here in NE. Some may say he doesn’t represent them individually, but the fact he represents a good chunk of them is proved by his continued employment.

by drj on Sep 17, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I have a new startup, its called www.punchoutanasshole.com. With the right prerequisite justification and a sliding scale of payment, you can now hire internet sensation, former NFL prospect and all-around villain, LeGarrette Blount to show up and cold cock an asshole. Our premium package includes full video marketing of all cold cocking.

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would suggest employing a female enforcer. And perhaps a new site promoting the “bitch slap.”

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Sep 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

but we need someone famous who can no longer find work any where else ala legarrett blount

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

I’ll put some thought into it….10 years ago you could have gone with Harding.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Sep 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is a good pull

probably gonna need a little more sex appeal though

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rarely miss a potshot at Glen Beck

and I was gonna type up some caps-locky comment about how D.S is a true patriot, and Mass is the birthplace of the revolution, and they tore up the british redcoats and made ‘sox’ out of them… etc etc.

But why bother? Glen Beck is so goddamn cartoonish, he can hardly be mocked anymore.

You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 17, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t hunt, but can I tag along with Hoiles, Walker, McDonald and Clark and act as Beer Quality Control Officer while they shoot stuff?

Every good hunting trip needs a non-hunting guy to act as BQCO.

I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.

by BrianS on Sep 17, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ahahaha that's awesome

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap that's brilliant

I spent way too much time last night reading the FJM guys on Deadspin taking on the Jeter-for-MVP nuts. It’s always comforting to find concrete examples of why the Yankees and their fans are so hateable. There’s no indignation like righteous indignation.

by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Sep 17, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still prob my fav all time oriole

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 17, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahahahaha

GENIUS.

Fellow Yankee players were equally excited for their teammate, rushing the field to congratulate Jeter on successfully becoming a professional baseball player who has fewer base hits than Harold Baines, and only slightly more than Omar Vizquel and Bill Buckner.

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem:

1. Joe Maddon is correct. I really don’t think shutting down rookie pitchers in September makes a lot of sense. Unless the idea is to make sure they get as little ML experience as possible before it all, um, starts “counting” again. The games count now, dammit. Ask Dirtbag Shaughnessy.

2. Sh*t!! I was really looking forward to Freuny Parra on the MLB All Weird Name Team. (For those of you who didn’t major in foreign languages, Freuny Parra means “freon powered” in Catalan— so his loss is kind of plus on the green side, actually.)

3. Shaughnessy is “the Glenn Beck of PHN”— good one, Z! I just hope that Glenn Beck isn’t the Glenn Beck of PHN. (I spose 26 would know— or did she get outta the politics racket?)

4. There is no No. 4

5. The larch. Number 5…the larch.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ahem

i think the point of shutting down the pitchers is so they don’t pitch large quantities more than they did in the previous season…saves arms. it’s kinda like running. you dont go from 10 miles a week to 60 miles a week and hope you won’t have a problems with shins etc.

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's certainly the *alleged* point-- but it's deflated by: (a) many R's go on pitching in their post-season BEFORE they

reach the ML level; and (b) if a team is that concerned about an individual’s arm, space the guy’s Sept. starts and workouts further apart…like the Rayz. The running analogy makes perfect sense for…running.

Freuny-lover!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

then they end up with the same number of innings anyway, right? Who cares if they come on August 1st or September 30th? Do guys need to learn to pitch in the cold better?

Lotta people go through life doing things badly. Racing's important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

by Andrew @ TLC on Sep 17, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't BELIEVE you made the larch comment.

My family has been adding it to numbered list for years! We thought we were the only ones.

And now, number 3….The horse-chestnut. The horse-chestnut.

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're the first person ever to get it-- or say so, at least. I...I...I've been waiting YEARS for this! [audible sobbing] Finally!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For everybody else: it begins this way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKVXG3DV-I

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 17, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always gone with....

5 is right out.

Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "

by duck on Sep 17, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Sun piece on Waring

also has a blurb saying Mickolio might be shut down soon. While it pains me to picture our bullpen without him (ahem, like the disasters over the last week or so), if his arm is hurting then rest up Kam!

by O Nina on Sep 17, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hm

I thought he was already shut down.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

The Sun said yesterday “Reliever Kam Mickolio (right biceps inflammation) still hasn’t resumed throwing and it appears the Orioles will decide soon whether to shut him down for the rest of the season. …”

Maybe he’s as good as shut down, they just haven’t made it official yet?

by O Nina on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Er...

I know, right? What an A-HOLE. I guess somehow taking 2 of 3 from the Yankees and another 2/2 (so far) from the Rays counts as “quitting”?

I assume you mean 2/3 so far from the Rays?

by alexw on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure i meant that.

i’m not really paying attention to the Orioles, because they’re quitters. who knows who they played this week?

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case you slept through it last night

Highlights are posted in Fanshots.

Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes

by IHeartMASN on Sep 17, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just dropping in

Sorry I’ve been so scarce, but the new job with the feds means significant curtailment of my Internet time. Sad but true. Anyway, Dan Shaugnessy is a turd who cooked up the “Curse of Babe Ruth” nonsense to sell books. He sold books to make money, and made money so he could buy plenty of Soul Glo. Never forget.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Sep 17, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry

You’re on a good timetable to be established enough in your routines and knowledgeable enough of the dos and don’ts to be good to go come Opening Day.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I agree that only we fans are allowed to say that the Orioles are terrible. In reality, the Os are only terrible against the Yankees and the Sox. Against the rest of the world, the Birds are decent. The only way to wipe the sneer from the Yanks and Sox fans is to beat their teams, which we will start to do next year and more so in 2011.

I must confess to mixed emotions as we finish the season. We will never catch DC in the race to the bottom, but KC and the Pirates are within striking distance. I would love to have the number 2 pick in the draft next year. But, I would also love to knock the Red Sox out of the WC race. Which is the stronger emotion, greed or spite?

by BaltoBen on Sep 17, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though,

I am not too keen on the cocky, GED getting, early declaring catcher from Nevada. So whichever position puts us in a less obligatory spot to pick him is the one I would prefer. Way too early to project the draft, but my vote is for best pitcher available.

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah i'm not that big of a fan of him either.

Certainly doesn’t seem worth having the worst record in baseball. I’ll settle for whomever the best player available is whenever we pick. There should be a really awesome player available wherever we pick.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any reason to think that the number 2 pick will be that much better than the number 4 pick?

MUCH better, no. But better yes

Beyond the Box Score also did a study of draft pick returns in case you’re interested.

"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"

by birdman on Sep 17, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m on a conference call, so I can’t really read that too carefully, but I assume it’s an analysis of historical picks. That’s nice and all, but is there any reason to think that this particular draft pick (Bryce Harper) is any better than the 3-4 people behind him? That’s what I was asking. Not whether historically number 1 picks have turned out better than number 4 picks, but whether there is any reason to think this particular perceived concensus number one pick is any better than the 3-5 people behind him on the prospect lists.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

Reading Camden Chat while on a conference call… nice, very nice!

by O Nina on Sep 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s nice and all, but is there any reason to think that this particular draft pick (Bryce Harper) is any better than the 3-4 people behind him?

Oh, in terms of scouting reports. Yes, I believe Harper is the consensus #1 pick and it’s not even close at this point.

"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"

by birdman on Sep 17, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just reporting what I’ve read. I think I remember one scout saying Harper wasn’t the consensus first pick in one of Jayson Stark’s Rumbling columns. But other than that, there’s been a good bit of drooling over him.

Baseball America

Harper is arguably the most anticipated high school prospect in … well, ever.

From a recent Keith Law chat.

Glen L (nyc): Keith – I read a scout saying he thinks it would be defensible to take Taillon over Harper with the number 1 pick … ignoring the PR backlash a team might face over such a decision, is it a wise or defensible baseball decision?

Keith Law(5:11 PM): You know, I’m generally a pro-prep-pitcher guy, but even I think that’s irresponsible. The fail rate of HS pitchers, even if I’m correct that it’s lower than it was 5-10 years ago, is still higher than the fail rate for HS bats.

"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"

by birdman on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More Baseball America

Last year, the spotlight was on San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg. He lived up to the massive hype and became the first overall pick by the Nationals, signing for a record $7.5 million bonus as part of a $15.1 million guaranteed contract. If 2009 was known as the Stephen Strasburg draft, prepare yourself for Bryce Harper mania..

And Jim Callis’ take.

Ryan (Vancouver Washington) Jim, Please tell me it is NOT a terrible year for the Pirates to have the #2 pick in the 2010 draft. I looked at the list BA put out today, from that list is there anyone that jumps out early as a possible 2 behind Harper. Thanks

Jim Callis (2:31 PM): It’s too early to jump to any conclusions. Harper has an awful lot of hype to live up to and may scare people away with his price tag, so don’t assume he’s going No. 1 early. The college crop looks unimpressive at this point, so we could see high school and junior college players (Harper, LeVon Washington) dominating the early selections. I don’t see a clear No. 2 at this point. Our first stab at top 25 list for high school and college draftees is at http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/early-draft-preview/2009/268869.html.</blockquote>

"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"

by birdman on Sep 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

We’ll see what happens during the college season. I remain not that impressed and certainly not to the point where I’m rooting for us to be the worst team in baseball.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

About Harper...

I don’t see how he is any more of a risk than any other High School position player, He just has a potentially better upside. And he isn’t as much of a risk as a HS Pitcher, Which would probably be a bad mistake on our part (2 HS Pitchers in a row? No thanks). If Harper fails, He’s just another Billy Rowell, And we’ll regret taking him. If he’s availible and we don’t take him and pans out, We’ll regret not taking him. You’ve got to take chance on some things.

I don’t think the Hamasington Natinals can handle drafting two Boras clients who are the most hyped prospect sin the history of everness in a row. If the Draft Race stays as it is right now, The top 5 will be

Nationals
Pirates
Royals
O’s
Indians

I would be surprised if the Gnats take him. I don’t know much about Pittsburgh’s drafting style, But I know they passed on Wieties (An accomplished College player) because of the Benjamin’s, So why would they take Harper? TThen there’s the Royals, Who are about to sign Aaron “The D-Bag That Could Already Be At AAA If He Wasn’t Greedy” Crow for somewhere around $4 Million. The biggest signing bonus The Royals have ever shelled out was 6 Mil, A year ago. If Harper gets skipped by the Gnats, The Royals would probably be the biggest competitor for him. If he’s available, I say we should take the chance. We’ll be able to pay him, But we won’t be stupid enough to overpay for him. If he fails, Well… So could any of the other players drafted next year.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't saying that we shouldn't take him because he was risky.

I just don’t necessarily think he’s worth having the worst record in baseball to be able to draft. If he’s around when we pick I would be all for taking him. I’m just not hoping we lose all our games and finish with the worst record in baseball just to get him.

By the way I love the “Hamasington Nationals”.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm not just another Billy Rowell

Harper will be demanding strasbourg-breaking dollars

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know much about Pittsburgh’s drafting style, But I know they passed on Wieties (An accomplished College player) because of the Benjamin’s, So why would they take Harper?

Because Dave Littlefield was an idiot and appropriately fired. The new front office won’t pass on Harper for $ reasons.

"You don’t EVEN KNOW who birdman is!"

by birdman on Sep 17, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter what Harper demands

Wantin’ ain’t gettin’. do you really think he’ll turn down something like $12-15 Million when it’s coming down to the deadline? I don’t think so. Strasburg wanted $50 Million… Well guess what, I would like $50 Million dollars too.

And I didn’t know the Pirates fired anybody. If they aren’t afraid to spend some big baffos, They’ll probably take him.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Strasburg ever demanded $50M

I think Boras alluded to someone who had a $50M contract (but years of MLB time) as a talent equivalent, and it blew up from there into “He won’t take less than $50M”

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as reported in the WaPo

link

This summer, Boras has another high-profile client, San Diego State pitcher Stephen Strasburg, for whom he would love nothing more than to blow apart baseball’s draft system, allowing Strasburg to be compensated in line with his talent — his asking price is believed to be around $50 million — as opposed to within the parameters of the current system, in which no player has ever received more than $10.5 million.

No one ever knows what someone actually asked, but if an agent leaks that he’s going to ask it to a lot of news outlets, it amounts to the same thing.

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever he wanted

I don’t think he got it. 15 million isn’t bad, though.

Bryce Bentz is probably a safer choice for a position player anyway. The only questionable thing is if he can stay in CF.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I don't know the kid or anything

but as a seventeen year old with boras guaranteeing to carry him money-wise if he doesn’t sign. yeah i can see him not signing

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

for “Hamasington Natinals”. At some other blogs, they wouldn’t understand either portion of that joke.

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have

codes from the all star game and nothing to do tonight. Should I really go and watch Hendrickson?

You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hah

I used my All Star ballot code for tonight’s game. Didn’t really plan on seeing Hendo (who ever does?); it was just the only non-prime game that fit my schedule.

Sadly, this is probably my last game of the season. So many memories… Opening Day, Koji’s debut, Bergeson’s debut, Bergeson’s CG, Wieters’ debut, Wieters’ 1st HR, the great dugout flood of ’09…

Team Relish

by kramertoneman on Sep 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

didn't those expire?

I was going to use mine a while back (Aug 30th) and i found they expired on the 25th or something like that.

You are talking about the Vote Orange, Save Green promo right?

by Gorilla Bird on Sep 17, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The draft

The article says that .62% of all first rounders flame out, which makes it easier to stomach the Billy Rowell pick. Unfortunately, going back to 1999, and not counting Hobgood, only 4 of the Orioles 14 first round draft picks have made an impact in the majors.
The article also makes the general, and well known, point that position players are less risky than hitters. In the last draft, picking 5th, we selected Hobgood. Picking 2nd, we could have selected Dustin Ackley. I would rather have Ackley than Hobgood, but only the baseball gods know how each will turn out.

by BaltoBen on Sep 17, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The O's would have picked Ackley if he were on the table

That draft day clip at the Hobgood abode had them all cheering about the O’s when Ackley was picked. They knew once Ackley was picked, it was very clear Hobgood would be an Oriole.

I have nothing against Hobgood, but the first thing that popped into my mind during that draft was Adam Loewen.

by drj on Sep 17, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

* i think you mean riskier than "pitchers", not "hitters", right?

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That picture... Oozes a large amount of Z-Game.

I told you Wieties was going to birng his Z-Game tuesday night, And my prediction lasted for two days.

A demon-pig Wigginton, A stoned Markakis, And a Matthew Richard Wieters, Descended straight from the Heavens. Awesome.

But can we lose a few more games now? We can’t lose our place in the draft. It pains me immensely to even think such a thing, But its true.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How many times has there been back-to-back MBP's?

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 17, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

I just won a contest.
I am now the proud owner of an autographed and framed Cal Ripken jersey!!!

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What kind of contest?

a dance contest? Spelling bee? baseball trivia contest? ship-in-a-bottle building?

You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 17, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

raffle

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 17, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was really hoping it would be ship-in-a-bottle building!

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry to let you down :)

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 17, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

um, not REALLY a contest, then

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome Shirt

Roid Sox!

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 17, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just scrolling down and i noticed Stacey's promotion

congrats but there can’t be two cobra commanders (except of course for that time that there was two cobra commanders, but they were enemies.) SC if you are out there, you should consider bestowing Stacey the title Destro or Dr. Mindbender or most appropriately probably, Serpentor.

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For those that don't fall in the necessary cultural age bracket

Destro – He was cobra commander’s #2 for a while. But he often switched sides. He had a silver head and he might have been part robotic.

Dr Mindbender – probably self-explanatory. Evil genius, mengele type that could also kick the occasional ass.

Serpentor – Genetically constructed by the Cobra Commander from the DNA of all of the evilest warriors in the history of the world. He eventually forced a coup and became the head honcho but through some strange political maneuvering he decided to keep the cobra commander around as his #2. From this point on the cobra commander spent most of his time sulking. Serpentor looked like the guy from Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom.

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think when the drednoks were created I was actually Dr. Mindbender.

but it’s been a while.

Stacey was promoted about 2-3 weeks ago, fyi.

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah well i been away

its not often that i scroll down to the bottom of a secondary page

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being Destro would be great

But sadly the SB Nation formatting doesn’t allow for as much G.I. Joe related references as we’d like :-(

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DRayBay pays no respect Wieters...sort of

http://www.draysbay.com/2009/9/17/1034132/is-carl-crawford-slowing-down

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineups per Roch

Brian Roberts 2B
Felix Pie CF
Nolan Reimold LF
Nick Markakis RF
Melvin Mora 3B
Luke Scott DH
Matt Wieters C
Michael Aubrey 1B
Robert Andino SS
Mark Hendrickson LHP

I think it’s time Wieters moves up to, oh, say 5th? I’m glad Nolan is back, now put them back together in the lineup like they were in NFK.

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nah

mora has to hit fifth. i’ll bet there are plenty of stats that back up his amazing production in that role this year.

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Nolan back.

But he needs to move The Savior up to 5th. Even if he has to bat behind Melmo for whatever reason that seems to be, At least have him in front of Luke, For Christ’s Sake.

Honestly, Nick hasn’t been very good as the Clean-up hitter. His best stats are actually from the 2 hole, And he was doing fine from 3rd. I’d rather see Nolan batting 4th.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless he starts hitting with more power

Nicky is definitely more suited for the 2 whole.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Nicky three

It’s the leader’s spot. and he is the leader. I like B-rob at two assuming we had a better leadoff. This is where I would like to see chone figgins and his +400 obp next year.

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick is a classic 3rd hitter IMHO

I’d go with Brian/Pie/Nick/Reimold/Wieters/Scott/Mora.

FYI Pie is actually above average in BB% at 9.4%. Nick is at 7.4%. Say what?

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

classic 3rd hitter maybe 20 years ago

number 3 that doesn’t hit 20 hrs is pretty weak if you ask me

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If nobody is on base

it’s not likely you’ll be knocking anybody in.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when he's not busy lollygagging

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

daydreaming about his underwear model wifeeee

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too skinny

But yeah

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not true

have you SEEN his wife?

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw one picture of her.

She’s attractive, But she’s Gisele Bundchen or anything.

… Maybe I need to research her more…

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean't to say "She's NO Gisele Bundchen or anything", Soryy

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that there's anything wrong with that.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

didnt say there was.

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gisele is hot as well

she probably wins over brob’s wife, but i’m not picky :-)

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woman, bite your tongue

wives are not allowed to daydream

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, sorry

You’re right, daydreaming is a terrible distraction from the cookin’ and the cleanin’!

by O Nina on Sep 17, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

atta girl

but you are allowed to daydream about your husband

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See B-Rob with a large amount of stubble is awkward.

It’s kind of like seeing an 8 year old with a beard.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh

I don’t know about the 8-year-old part, but I’m not a fan of facial hair on any guys, especially not Brian… however the shadow does look kinda nice on Markakis.

by O Nina on Sep 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 5 O'clock shadow on Nick is unintentional.

It just happens when he doesn’t shave inbetween innings.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian looks silly with facial hair, agreed

It just gets in the way of his awesome smile.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I made that picture of him and Nick my computer background

The one with Nick behind Brian and they’re both all smiley. Whenever I’m having a crappy day and I sit down in front of my computer and see it I am immediately cheered up.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like harper lee and truman capote?

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're assuming there aren't others joining in

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea this is also true

i think i’ll start an open letter to him telling him just how much we wish he would get traded

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or Tony Batista

In 2003 for the O’s he had 99 RBI with an OPS+ of 73. In 2004 for the Expos he had 110 RBIs with an OPS+ of 80.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's spelled: RISP

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 3rd on the team in HR

Luke 21
Jones 19
Nick 16
BRob 15
Reimold 15

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you want to bat Luke 3rd?

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

id bat him third in my ideal lineup too

i think home runs are somewhat overrated

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

luke scott leads the team in hrs

that should be enough to tell you hrs arent all they are made out to be

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luke Scott sucks. But he also doesn’t have real power either. But just saying that Nicky has a lot of RBI so he should bat 3rd or 4th is as stupid as saying that because Luke has the most HRs on the team he should bat 3rd or 4th. I would like an actual real live power hitter to bat third and 4th. One of those is not currently on the team.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see a guy who hits HR batting third or fourth

as long as he can have a high OBP as well. Get me that lazy, baseball hating Adam Dunn for the middle of my lineup please.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

That’s exactly the kind of guy I would like.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea but think about the defense you'd lose from that power hitter

adam dunn is a great hitter, but his defense is awful. i dont mind the o’s light and speedy offense. as long as you’re getting on base consistently, there’s no problem

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd put that m'f-er at DH

I know he says he doesn’t want to DH, but he’s going to have to come to terms with it as soon as the Nats are finished with him.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad the Natinals aren't finished with him this year

If they were, I’d say we should go get him.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised they didn't trade him

Those dudes are crazy. Remember when they didn’t trade Soriano?

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're idiots.

They use up our HD time, Make us open on the road, They’re burning down the Amazon, Ruining the ozone, And wasting a good player for two years!

The Hamasington Natinals make me sick.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

figgins
roberts
markakis
reimold
jones
weiters
scott
izturis
pie

of course my ideal lineup also has adrian gonzalez

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well luke hits hrs

and sucks. and jones is bloody inconsistent. who else is going to hit 3 or 4?

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i reckon its 2 hole

and i disagree. you don’t have to hit for a ton of power to be a quality 3 or 4. hes hitting there becuse he’s been the most productive. he’s probably best suited for 3.

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You reckon right :)

But just because he’s the most productive in this currently lineup doesn’t mean that he’s best suited for the 3 slot in an ideal lineup.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're talking about the orioles

anybody who can swing a bat is ideal. markakis is a quality hitter that uses the whole field. i could careless how far he hits as long as he hitting it (and runs are scoring)

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess.

But I would much prefer a number 3 hitter with some actual power. Then he could be driving in OBP guys like Roberts and Nicky in even when they’re only on first base.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't agree with that at all.

Unless there are two outs, the runner on first is going or fast as shit, or the ball is missplayed/fielded by an outfielder who’s slow and with a terrible arm, it’s pretty hard to score from first on a routine double.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't agree with that at all

but i guess that depends on your definition of a routine double

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well geez

this really isn’t up for debate. I am sure the facts/stats are out there.

by b_duardo on Sep 17, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Luke Scott is the best defensive left fielder in the game!!

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thus all of Jeter's intangibles

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHAHA

well played sir

by twistedlogic on Sep 17, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The game winning intangibles?

That was, awesome.

I didn’t read the Onion one yet, site blocked at w*rk

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

onion, photobucket, fannation, all web based email

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have the worst job ever

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 17, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, its pretty awesome

I got an iphone for internet energencies

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you should look into one of those pass-thru proxy sites

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also blocked

They’re not playing. I’m probably going to get sbn blocked for the whole company if i keep this up.

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i went to the library yesterday.

Picked up “Our Dumb World” and the Autobiography of George Bush “Destined for Destiny”

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah the walk-off intangibles. lol

figured that was a reference to that

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

link?

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZOMG

Thanks you! TWO AWESOME Jeter articles in the same thread! Double Genius!

"Derek’s detractors will point out the fact that he doesn’t have much power. Or that he strikes out too much. Or that he has limited range at shortstop and a mediocre throwing arm," said Torre. "But it’s the intangibles that set him apart from every other player in baseball. The intangibles. What those are exactly I can’t say. It’s kind of tough to put your finger on. But it’s something. And that something somehow won the game for us tonight."

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yeah there are a lot of good quotes – I like Arod’s quote about how bad his numbers are.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Normal doubles down the line, in the gaps, over OFers heads.

Not ones that ricochete around in a corner or bounce off the wall past an OFer. I think the guys scoring from first on normal doubles are usually with 2 outs.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 17, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this

You want high contact%, BA, lots of XBH. BRob is actually not a bad choice.

[puts on flameproof suit]

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why

Nick has been watching more Strike 3s this year. He hasn’t shown as good of a batting eye, Dunno why, But it makes me kind of sad.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my cat is audibly snoring right now.

really loudly.

"I think my motivation is to see the other guys in the clubhouse. They’re contending for the playoffs, and when I see that it gets into my body. I play like it’s the playoffs too" —Memlo

by zknower on Sep 17, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love for the Deity

After the hype, Wieters having solid rookie season

Crawford had been 57-of-69 swiping bases prior to testing Wieters, who became the first catcher since April of 2007 to nail Crawford twice in the same game and has now thrown out 28 percent of steal attempts overall to rank solidly above the league average. Wieters has also pitch-called his way to a better catcher’s ERA than veterans Gregg Zaun and Chad Moeller.

In another article, Mora makes the top 100 free agents this offseason

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 17, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its too bad you can only see Wieter's Halo when his hat is off.

And are we going to get a game thread tonight?

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mickolio was just placed on the DL.

"When have you ever made that play? Only in Little League... And you probably didn't even make it then." ~ Jim Palmer, 9/14/09

by Markickass on Sep 17, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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