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Yankees 10, Orioles 2: I hate the Baltimore Orioles

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Shouldn't have had any expectations for this season..

they’re not doing anything that wasn’t expected of them. But I think I’ve finally lost hope for this franchise. I can only wonder if we’re in the opening limb of a drought which will last most of our lifetimes.

(Talk about doom and gloom…)

by Y Not on Sep 2, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

false...this was gonna be the year

rich hill was going to emerge as the ace of the team and lead a rag-tag lineup of wiggy, melmosity, montanez, ryan freel and others to victory and take over the world.

maybe i had lofty expectations

by twistedlogic on Sep 2, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 3, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t worn an O’s hat since they broke out of the All Star break with a pathetic losing streak. It has been Ravens since then(and for all you fans of other football teams, replace Ravens with “your team” hat – I don’t care about hearing about them).

The O’s are just fascinating for all the wrong reasons. It was the “Dancing Homer” episode when Homer wondered why people like stories of humiliation and degradation and Moe responded “I dunno, they just do”. That’s what the O’s have become for me. I find all the cynical and bitter vitriol entertaining. Especially when it is aimed at the architect of this mess – Peter Angelos. If Andy MacPhail is fired or leaves because he is fed up, I think it will be the last straw for me. I’ll go back to not paying any attention to the Orioles.

by drj on Sep 2, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

but football players do not wear hats, I'll have you know.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 3, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

well it's no surprise that you and I are quite different

you say that kind of stuff every year and I get miserable every year.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not glad about the O's state of affairs. Stating the obvious...

It’s just wasted energy to get upset over something you don’t control. The state of Orioles doesn’t reflect on me. Same if they ever get good. Fans who become obnoxious because “their” team wins are shit-for-brains.

by drj on Sep 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember kids, don't do steroids

unless you want to hit a lot of RBI, like me!

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 2, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

That fangraphs chart makes it look like Piggly Wiggly's single helped the MFY win

maybe by clogging the bases?

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 2, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes

That 8th inning kinda summed up like.. the last dozen years.

by RollingWave on Sep 3, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 3, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, where you'd get a picture of a Russian bathroom?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 3, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know the team was supposed to be bad and all this year, but this is getting pretty rough. Not sure how much more I can take.

I’m starting to get increasingly bitter and angry at people during threads, so I apologize for that. I really hate this shit. I think I’ll try to just get blacked out drunk the next three nights.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

That was Awful

1) Washington
2) Kansas City -5.5
3a) Baltimore —8
3b) Pittsburgh -8
5) San Diego -12.5

I really want at least 3rd, but I think 2nd is achievable. The Pirates need to start winning games though, they’ve lost 7 straight

by math_geek on Sep 3, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Joe Angel:

“Luke looks perlexed on that called strike one.”

Moments later: “Strike three called, and Luke walks away, looking confused.”

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 3, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I just went to a bar

and watched the top of the 9th. IT went from 3-2 to 10-2 in a flash. That shgit was crazy. Shit, that is all.

Trying to hit off me is like trying to eat soup with melmo.
-Ryohei Tanaka, with AA Bowie

by Timmy L. on Sep 3, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

yes FUCK

Trying to hit off me is like trying to eat soup with melmo.
-Ryohei Tanaka, with AA Bowie

by Timmy L. on Sep 3, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

especially sicne i had to watch YESA

Trying to hit off me is like trying to eat soup with melmo.
-Ryohei Tanaka, with AA Bowie

by Timmy L. on Sep 3, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to kill Sar FARTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, ay?

Trying to hit off me is like trying to eat soup with melmo.
-Ryohei Tanaka, with AA Bowie

by Timmy L. on Sep 3, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, not a very good game, huh? Sir Fartay and the Knights of the Wrong Table at it again...

I guess we showed those Yerkees a thing or two. Or three, actually, and at home. Ah, September Sucktitude in full bloom. I almost wish I could get into math_geek’s Contrarian Sweepstacks mindset, but I can’t — perhaps because 2003 is ever with me. It was literally stunning. And, um, not in a good way.

Anyway, today’s a day off, so players can go to church or go to hell (Sir Fartay doesn’t get to choose). After that they can catch up on their NCAA fb handicapping — which they always seem to have considerable time for in September, alas. Here’s a leg up, guys, on the first interesting contest:

Oregon 37 Boise St 34. I know, I know: don’t bet against Smurf Turf, blah-blah-blah. Tough. What I have written, I have written. Oh, and in the Mediocrity Beats a Bad Dog at Home category, Snodfart edges Wash St.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 3, 2009 2:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Did You Know? Sonoma State University athletic teams were called The Cossacks until...

they weren’t. I’ve wondered sometimes whether I should go down to Rostov-on-Don or somewhere in the Kuban and tell the actual Cossacks about this — I don’t believe they were consulted about the name change — but I’ve hesistated, on the theory that, well, they have the reputation of being somewhat tempermental, and that may include a strain of Kill the Messenger-itis. Anyway, I miss the cool logo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sonoma_State_Cossack_Logo.png

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 3, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I am glad I turned this off after it went to 3-1. I guess I am a bit mad I missed the Reimold dinger, but definitely glad I missed JJ and Sir Fart’s outings. The O’s are on the Tower of Terror plummeting to the bottom faster than a submarine.

by John Stephens on Sep 3, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Trembley once again needs to go!!!!!!

First of all let me start out in saying MASN after the game last night asked them selves how did we let this one get away? Its simple coaching. Either you have it or you don’t and trembley does not have it. Some coaches know when to take pitchers out and some don’t. Once again he does not have that knack. CAN SOMEONE please please please tell me why they took Berken out in the 6th? He threw 80 something pitches and was pitching just fine, I mean he has won 3 straight! Then they take him out and put Hendrickson in for one batter in which he struck out!!!! I understand the righty, lefty match up but how in the world if this team next year or the year after with this coaching mentality will they ever learn to get right and left handed batters out if they are ever put in a situation to get multiple guys out??? SOMEONE TELL ME THAT ONE TOO? Please I need some answers because lord knows MASN and the orioles won’t give them to you.

by Oriolebird88 on Sep 3, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

How did we "let this one get away??" We scored 2 runs and gave up 10. We fucking suck. That's how.

The pitching was fucking ugly, but what difference does it make when you socre 2 runs? Did you expect to beat the Yerks 2-1??

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

My point exactly.

That statment was a dumb ass one to begin with. I wish some reporter would be like cause we suck! But that is why Jon Miller got fired.

by Oriolebird88 on Sep 3, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think he did

But i loved those books growing up

by kba26 on Sep 3, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

Weren’t they called Yerks? Those brain-inhabiting aliens? I am reaching into the depths of my mind here.

by O Nina on Sep 3, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAN SOMEONE please please please tell me why they took Berken out in the 6th? He threw 80 something pitches and was pitching just fine, I mean he has won 3 straight!

I know you dont agree its a good idea, but they’re trying to limit his innings the rest of the way. Right or wrong, I think its pretty clear that’s what it was.

by kba26 on Sep 3, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Generally, we just stink with RISP

by John Stephens on Sep 3, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

O's in '09

Bases Loaded: 137 plate appearances with .303/.365/.477 with 7 2B, 4 HR, and 15 BB.

RISP: 1303 plate appearances with .283/.361/.446 with 75 2B, 7 3B, 31 HR and 143 BB.

The Orioles are considerably worse with the bases empty (.260/.318/.399)

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where do these numbers rank in the league?

And I wonder what the splits are on the 1st half of the season vs the second.

by John Stephens on Sep 3, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering that myself

the 1st vs 2nd half anyway. B-R doesn’t have the bases occupied stats broken up by half. Seeing where they’d rank would be pretty easy though.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

more stats!

RISP, 2 outs:

594 PA with .236/.328/.366 with 3 2B, 4 3B, 10 HR

Also, “Late & close”:

804 PA with .225/.277/.333

by brek on Sep 3, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

basically Orioles and clutch are antonyms?

by John Stephens on Sep 3, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

clutch stats

don’t mean all that much to me. Neither to RISP stats and all that really, I just wish people would look at numbers before making statements.

If you sort the Orioles clutch stats by their, clutchness, or whatever, you’ll see a descending OPS from least to most. You could look at that as them crumbling under pressure/not caring/“un-clutch”/whatever, but in my opinion it’s more that when you play good, competitive teams, they bring in their best reliever late in the game/high leverage situations or best bench player to hit for a below average hitter, whatever, and the Orioles as a bad team can’t compensate.

Just my opinion and doesn’t matter in the long run because either way you look at it, the Orioles still suck.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for you Johnny :)

I looked up the rest of the AL East, plus some additional stats for the O’s. I normally don’t pay attention to RBIs but I figure since it’s RISP it might not be bad to take a look.

O’s: RISP – 432 RBI, 30 GIDP, 29 SF, OPS+ 110
        Loaded – 97 RBI, 7 GIDP, 11 SF, OPS+123

Blue Jays: RISP – 1364 PA, 66 2B, 33 HR, 164 BB, .256/.343/.405 419 RBI, 48 GIDP. 36 SF, OPS+ 95
                   Loaded: 134 PA, 7 2B, 3 HR, 4 BB, .270/.276/.402, 83 RBI, 10 GIDP, 8 SF, OPS+ 78

Rays: RISP – 1490 PA, 72 2B, 35 HR, 207 BB, .264/.369/.423, 468 RBI, 34 GIDP, 37 SF, OPS+ 106
           Loaded – 154 PA, 12 2B, 5 HR, 12 BB, .305/.351/.547, 119 RBI, 3 GIDP, 11 SF, OPS+ 135

Red Sox: RISP – 1443 PA, 69 2B, 36 HR, 202 BB, .274/.379/.434, 467 RBI, 45 GIDP, 44 SF, OPS+ 112
                 Loaded – 184 PA, 11 2B, 1 HR, 16 BB, .259/.315/.354, 110 RBI, 11 GIDP, 17 SF, OPS+ 79

Yankees: RISP – 1508 PA, 74 2B, 38 HR, 195 BB, .271/.371/.435, 507 RBI, 47 GIDP, 31 SF, OPS+ 110
                 Loaded – 162 PA, 8 2B, 1 HR, 11 BB, .271/.302/.364, 109 RBI, 10 GIDP, 11 SF, OPS+ 78

I think one of the most telling of all those things is plate appearances. Sure the Orioles have better overall numbers with the bases loaded than the Yankees, but the Yankees have over 200 more plate appearances in the same situation.

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with limiting innings over the season

i don’t agree at all with limiting innings in a game where the pitch count is low and the guy is cruising.

add two innings now and give him one less start later. jeez.

"The single best thing any rebuilding manager can do, ever, is trade a relief pitcher in late July for a couple of solid prospects."
— Rob Neyer, July 30, 2009

by zknower on Sep 3, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

disappointing

i was working until about the 8th inning. figuring it was already a blowout, i checked the score before turning on masn. i can deal with 3-1. hey, 3-2. this is kind of interesting. fail.

by henhoo on Sep 3, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Question

I missed most of the game (turned it on a few minutes before Nolan’s HR, turned it off when JJ put runners on the corners with zero outs) but I saw that Pie got two hits off of CC. For anyone who saw it, were they good hits or cheap?

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 3, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't see Pie's first hit

But his second was a nice hit off the end of his bat into right field. Coulda been an RBI had it not been Wieters on 2nd.

by John Stephens on Sep 3, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the first hit

was an oppo liner – the guys on the radio said he did a good job not trying to do too much with a good pitch

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

another thing i didn't like about trembley last night

batting Pie 9th…. we all get it that he isn’t the best against LH pitchers, but right now he is the teams hottest hitter. Why would you put your hottest hitter at the very bottom of the line-up? it’s the same mentality that tells him to pull out a reliever who may be dominating that night because of the L-R handed match-ups.

by brek on Sep 3, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

i dont really see batting 9th as an insult or really stupid

batting him seventh or eigth would be because thats where the guys who arent hitting that well go but i personally dont have a problem with putting a guy who is currently producing in the 9th spot

by twistedlogic on Sep 3, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why don't you have a problem with that?

Don’t you want good hitters/hitters that are doing well to get the most ABs?? And why would you want him hitting after “the guys who aren’t hitting that well”??

by O'sFan21 on Sep 3, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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