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See what you started, Jeremy Guthrie? Now you've got Sean Henn blowing his nose on his jersey, too! Some leader you are! (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

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See what you started, Jeremy Guthrie? Now you've got Sean Henn blowing his nose on his jersey, too! Some leader you are! (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

Tillman may have made last start Sunday - MASNsports.com

Roch says: "Tillman may be shut down after today's start. Manager Dave Trembley dropped a few hints during the last homestand. The right-hander has one start remaining, but Trembley could opt to go the bullpen-by-committee route. I'm not sure who's next in line to enter the rotation, but Lambert or Chris Waters would make sense." Oh, goody. I'm sure that will work out well. -duck 

Good news on Pie - MASNsports.com 

"Orioles manager Dave Trembley told reporters in Cleveland that outfielder Felix Pie's injury isn't as serious as they first believed. Pie will rest for a few more days and could return to the lineup next week. "We thought it was going to be a whole lot more severe than what it was," Trembley said." Stacey, you can take the candles out of your windows now. -duck 

Source: Tampa Bay Rays interested in Chicago Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley - ESPN Chicago

"It appears that there's more than a little interest in Chicago Cubs right fielder Milton Bradley. A source with knowledge of the situation said that the Tampa Bay Rays are very interested in bringing the beleaguered outfielder to Florida." Tampa Bay, you might want to re-think this one. -duck

Rays shut down J.P. Howell - Newsday.com

"J.P. Howell has struggled recently and the Rays have decided to shut down the lefthanded reliever. Howell has pitched 156 innings the past two seasons. That is the third highest among relievers in that span." So we got that going for us in this upcoming series, which is nice. -duck

Dimaond Dave looks on the sunny side - MASNsports.com 

"The way I'm looking at it is, we're getting out of this series, we go to Tampa, there will be some sunshine and warm weather, it's another environment, it's an opportunity for us to turn this thing around in our favor. And the only thing you can look at is, tomorrow starts a winning streak for us and let's see how many game we can win coming down the final week of the season." Uh, Dave? Going on the road to play a team that had lost 11 in a row before they swept you last week probably isn't the best way to break out of a slump. -duck

O's relievers failing to show they belong in majors -- baltimoresun.com

"The hope was that the additions would bolster a tired bullpen and give several pitchers an opportunity to show that they belong at the major league level. What it has done instead is reveal a lack of organizational depth in that area and likely made several necessary offseason roster decisions much easier to make." Don't even bother making the "small sample size" argument. The current crew is bad, and probably won't get better. So we will try AGAIN next year to find 6 or so decent relievers... -duck

Swept by Indians, O's hit a new low -baltimoresun.com

"Perhaps it's impossible for a team that is more than 30 games under .500 and has been playing mostly meaningless contests for months now to hit rock bottom in the final days of a 162-game season. But leave it to the Orioles to find a way." Wait, the O's are still playing? Hadn't noticed. -duck 

Orioles-Rays Preview - CBSSports.com
"This season won't be as memorable as last year's run to the AL East title and their first pennant, but if the Rays win four of their final seven, they'll become the eighth major league team to win 180 games over two seasons after losing 180 in the previous two years." Let's just say I'm hoping they don't get it. -duck

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Noah? Is that you?

Duck… is this from the Notebook? Is it weird that I love this movie? If not, feel free to call me ‘douche’.

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 28, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It totally is

Thank God for IMDB – so I don’t have to actually watch movie to quote them.

Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "

by duck on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

you almost had a notebook-enjoying buddy there wieters wieners……and then………nope. :-)

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MacPhail finally speaks

“I’m disappointed in this road trip,” said MacPhail, who watched the three games from a booth behind home plate. “I know we’re beat-up and running out of bullets, but I’m not real pleased with it. Some of it, I can understand. But I don’t think Cleveland and Toronto are terribly different than we are.”

I’ve been waiting for some type of statement from MacPhail indicating he’s not happy with the team. The next thing we should hear (and this is typical management damage control stuff) is that this is not they kind of effort we’ll witness in 2010. Throw the fans (your customers) a bone and acknowledge they’ve endured a bad season.

We’ve known all along the bullpen is not very strong. Add the BP to the needs list for 2010. Some power, 1B, 3B, and bullpen arms. MacPhail and team have a lot to do this off season. Hopefully they can get the team to “competent” in 2010. I’m not looking for competitive.

by drj on Sep 28, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know where those things are

but it would be nice to see.

Listen. I’m just as, if not more, tired of this bullshit as anyone here. And I assume that Trembo will probably be the sacrificial lamb…but I don’t necessarily think that that is right or smart (or wrong or stupid), and I doubt that the roster experiences much major change. It is neither MacPhail nor Angelos’ history to sign big contracts to injury-risk pitchers*, so the only really decent pitcher out there, Lackey, is not coming here. And the big power bats just aren’t available. The real bad news is that they aren’t going to be available next year neither (not at short or first or third, our positions of need)…so I just can’t rationalize to myself spending much money at all on some scrub who might – if we get lucky – add 2 wins to next year’s club.

So yeah. The Plan has been, and will continue to be, we win if Matusz, Tillman, Bergesen, and Arrieta can make us give up fewer runs, and if Wieters and Jones and Reimold pan out. That is it.

*I’m crossing my fingers on a short term deal with one of the power pitchers coming off of mediocre or injury filled year(s). You know which one.

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew @ TLC on Sep 28, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we wanted Adam Dunn

we would already have Adam Dunn.

By the way, why don’t we have Adam Dunn?

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew @ TLC on Sep 28, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He still wants to play in the field

Which, to me, means give him a plastic pail and shovel. But then he’d just kick it over with his big donkey leg.

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 28, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

^ I'm talking about building sandcastles

And, if you haven’t seen this, here is the donkey leg quote

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 28, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure how "sacrificial lamb-y" Trembley really is.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Sep 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

But I can’t foresee a future where he isn’t sacrificed and scapegoated as the reason for the dismal performance.

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew @ TLC on Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree he’ll be gone I’m just saying that at least some of it may be warranted. I know he didn’t have a lot to work with but he ran them out of a few games. It may not have all been him but you can only pin so much blame on Melmo’s playoff experience.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waters

Maybe we’ll get an O’s miracle and he’ll have another ridiculous, uncharacteristic amazing game…

Orrrrr maybe we’ll lose our last 7 games which would mean we’d lose our final 17 games of the seaon.

by O Nina on Sep 28, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm

Which of those events seems more likely…

by O'sFan21 on Sep 28, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for those who haven't seen/heard

CC is nominated for a mobbie!

check the front page!

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dude

It’s at the top of the front page. They see it. Relax.

I’d forgotten what it’s like for you to be home during the day.

Shouldn’t you be off somewhere atoning?

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 28, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i should be atoning but i feel sick

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why are you home during the day anyways?

don’t you have school…or something?

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh my b

i’m greek orthodox. we never got off for our holidays.

by twistedlogic on Sep 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

I’m actually only aware of it because the people I was around yesterday were talking about breaking their fast. I’m only a half-Jew, myself (other half is Catholic).

by O Nina on Sep 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss getting all the jewish holidays off

Apparently, that’s now how things work at college

by NickMarkaces on Sep 28, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is more likely?

berken wins cy young or champan signs with a small market team?

Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 28, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Milton Bradley is a classic buy-low opportunity

if you don’t have to give up much and can either get the Cubs to pick up some salary or get rid of your own bad contract (Pat Burrell comes to mind) why not give it a shot? Yeah, the guy’s kind of a jerk, but if you mostly use him at DH and try to keep him healthy I believe he can be an asset.

by pipkin on Sep 28, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Nationals should go for him

He’d be a great addition to the reality show 2632 and I are planning, “Thug Life: Washington Natinals”

Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts

by Stacey on Sep 28, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, they do like taking our ex-shortstops

Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008

by Eat More Esskay on Sep 28, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seems like a riskier version of Nick Johnson

Both of their biggest strengths has been high OBP (over .400) and maxing out at less than 20 home runs. Bradley has more power, but also comes with his own stupid quirks that nobody seems to have liked ever anywhere.

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew @ TLC on Sep 28, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Although I’ve never heard that Nick Johnson is an asshole. But they’re both primarily hitters with only modest power and poor defense/injury, so I’m with you.

They both strike me as guys who should only get one-year deals. Which means Jim Hendry is definitely a moron for having given Bradley that three-year deal. Then again he also gave Alfonso Soriano, what, 7 years?

by pipkin on Sep 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orioles are in third place

The Pirates are in our sights, although the Nationals are unreachable.
We should only fire Trembly if the team has stopped hustling, which is not the case. Is he a fundamentally sound baseball man, and can he coax effort from a team that is mired in last place? If so, keep him,
Please don’t sign Milton Bradley. There is absolutely no reason to add a jerk to a team unless that jerk would (see Manny) put you over the top into a playoff spot. See Albert Belle.

by BaltoBen on Sep 28, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

its stupid to fire trembley, just to “take things in a different direction”. even though i’m not the biggest fan, he really hasn’t done all that much wrong this year. hiring someone else will just be more of a distraction and all kind of false expectations that people are going to have when we should really just be looking to 2011.

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 28, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the coaching?

I mean, is Kranitz in the weeds trying to fix 29 different pitcher’s messed up mechanics? Maybe he could head out to the bullpen and have a look at JJ and Ray? The plan IIRC was to have one of them be the closer, now we have people talking about bringing Rodney in.

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 28, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need a guy named Randy

so everyone once in a while Dwight Yoakum can yell, “Why don’t you go practice, Randy!”

That and “I hate you too! No, no I don’t. I love your mother.”

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Sep 28, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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